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The Dugout Discussion – Burnley vs Arsenal

2 October 2016 3936 comments
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Gameweek 7 comes to its conclusion as Burnley welcome Arsenal to Turf Moor.

The Gunners roll up on the back of four straight league wins, with Alexis Sanchez and Theo Walcott both in fine recent form.

The Chilean teed up Walcott’s pair of strikes in the midweek Champions League win over FC Basel and with three double-figure hauls in four, carries the armband hopes of many at Turf Moor.

Walcott has now notched five times in seven across all competitions and has risen to 6% ownership in Fantasy Premier League.

Another big performance today would surely kick start a bandwagon over the international break, yet Arsene Wenger’s side face an obstinate Clarets rearguard that has conceded just five goals in the previous 17 league matches in front of their own supporters.

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  1. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Rashford to Deeney or Benteke for a hit?

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  2. Miami Monkey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    The search for the 3rd striker: I need to replace Rondon this week and it is between Defoe, Deeney, and Austin. Everyone seems to be on the Deeney train, so I calculated scores based on "threat" from the FPL site. Here are the results. Also, I'm not sure what stats go under "influence" so I haven't included that, but if someone knows please say so. This is definitely making me rethink getting Deeney...

    Didn't include Aguero because we all have him, and removed Rashford because today's match made him a non option in my eyes.

    I just divided the "threat" score by minutes played. Here's how it looks:

    Ibra = 0.81
    Lukaku = 0.76
    Costa = 0.67
    Benteke = 0.53
    Defoe = 0.47
    Austin = 0.46
    Wilson = 0.37
    Deeney = 0.35

    Multiplied by a fixture ratio # to adjust for schedule difficulty (granted this included this week's matches as well, so not totally accurate):

    Ibra = 0.78
    Lukaku = 0.74
    Costa = 0.67
    Benteke = 0.51
    Defoe = 0.48
    Austin = 0.45
    Wilson = 0.39
    Deeney = 0.38

    Divided by their price:

    Lukaku = 0.079
    Austin = 0.071
    Ibra = 0.068
    Costa = 0.067
    Benteke = 0.067
    Defoe = 0.066
    Wilson = 0.061
    Deeney = 0.054

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    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Austin it is!

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    2. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      So in conclusion you are bringing in...

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      1. Miami Monkey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I have absolutely no idea. Want to hear the opinion of others. It also depends on budgets and who else you are looking to get in midfield

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    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I was planning on Rashford>Austin after Stoke and gives me exact money for Baines>Kosc

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    4. TheTinman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Why on earth is this a hot topic. Times must be hard

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    5. COYS Down Under
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      This fails to take into account Deeney's pens. There are no stats associated with that. Always take stats with a grain salt and apply a pinch of common sense.

      That said Austin does look good, as does Tekkers.

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      1. andymck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Don't Defoe and Austin take penalties as well though?

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        1. Scholes Balls
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Defoe does,not sure for Austin

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    6. Geri-hatricks
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Hmm thats interesting. I was set on Gray to Deeney.

      I still think taking fixtures inti account, Deeney will outscore Austin over the next few weeks.

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    7. TheTinman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Why should a players rating be punished for minutes played? Surely more minutes is a good thing. It shows they are fit and key to their team.

      Skews the rest of the stats making them irrelevant in my opinion.

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      1. Miami Monkey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Just because it wouldn't be fair with not all strikers having played the same amount of matches thus far

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    8. TheTinman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Furthermore it ignores the fact that Deeney is probably the best assister out of all of them.

      Can anybody tell me who gave this the green paint?

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    9. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      interesting. wonder how "threat" is calculated. i'm considering zlatan to deeney, as a KDB fundraiser. i'm doubting the strategy now

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    10. Lyonnais
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I need an Ibra replacement and would like to get Austin but Southampton's fixtures are putting me off.
      Burnley at home is his best fixture in the next 5 and as we know they are a tough nut to crack.

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    11. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      What's happened to Rondon?

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      1. Lyonnais
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Poor fixtures coming up.

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    12. SuperMario
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Commenting to bookmark for later this week. 3 strikers!

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    13. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I can't see past Benteke. Palace playing to his strengths, stats to match anybody and cheap....and he's doing the business.

      Having said that I quite like the Rondon pick. He'll be a pick and forget and somehow will muster 15 goals this season IMO.

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      1. Miami Monkey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I can't afford him because I have Costa. If I had Lukaku I could

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    14. Miami Monkey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Important to keep in mind that this does not take into account the strength of fixtures they have played in. Deeney had a tough start to the season. Defoe's was considerably easier. Austin hasn't played many matches yet

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    15. Miami Monkey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Austin's next 3 fixtures putting me off now that I look at them. It's between Defoe and Deeney for me

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  3. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Pick* Jak*
    Kos 🙂 Walker Baines* Lovren* Amat
    Sanchez Sterling Firmino Antonio Capoue
    Kun Lukaku Diomande
    0.5 itb, 2ft. Lot of doubtful players, where to start?

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Baines and Diomande out?

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      1. Clayton_3
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Second that!

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    2. TheTinman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Baines probably back after break?

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  4. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Overall rank of 70k. Happy with a good first few weeks - aiming for the top 10k - obviously. And top of all my MLs bar one.

    Liking the look of my team for the next few gameweeks. Just need another transfer for Rashford >
    Deeney.

    0 transfers and 0.2m in the bank.

    Pickford. Foster.
    Vertongan. Williams. Holebas. Amat. Kelly.
    Sanchez. Firmino. Sterling. Son. Capoue.
    Aguero. Lukaku. Rashford.

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Deeney, Wilson, Tekkers

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      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Austin.

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        1. Concrete
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Him as well... Decent option

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  5. Rider on the Storm
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Points are now confirmed?
    About wallys assist...

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Confirmed.

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  6. Concrete
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Baines to Shawcross

    Shawcross decent attacking stats. Want Koscienly but feel Shawcross could be a good differential in ML

    Yes or no

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    1. Rider on the Storm
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No

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    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I think a Stoke defender will do you well coming weeks and Shawcross has a lot of PB touches but I think Arse def essential atm

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      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers. I agree with this, might just get both

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    3. Pirlø's Pen
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No fkkkkkn chance ha

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      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        KPIs are good though

        Last punt from KPI was Arnie before his run last year and to a lesser extent Wilson this season

        With fixtures, I might just punt

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        1. jurgenklopp.8
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          what is KPI?

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          1. Concrete
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Key Performance Indicators

            Player stats>Def>Attacking KPI

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  7. FPL Puppy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    RP
    2FT

    Ibra + Antonio -> Sanchez + Defoe/Deeney

    or

    Ibra + Antonio -> Wally + Costa

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      First one, but would wait another week on Sanchez

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    2. Rich_20
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A.

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  8. Slam
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Zlatan+Capoue+Baines -> Austin/Deeney + Son/Walcott + Koscielny
    -8

    Yay or nay?

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yes imo

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  9. Hurricane Gilbert
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    No luck at all so far this season. Stuck at 700k OR and would like to hear your advice on these options:

    A) Baines & Antonio > Cameron & Walcott (have no Sánchez)
    B) Rashford & Antonio > Wilson & Wally
    C) Sterling & Antonio > Walcott & Son
    D) Sterling + Antonio + Rashford > Wally + Son + Deeney -4
    E) Baines + Antonio + Rashford > Cameron + Wally + Deeney -4

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  10. Nanoelektronicar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Pickford Foster

    Williams Valencia Pieters Collins Amat

    Ozil Firmino Walcott Antonio Capoue

    Costa Aguero Benteke

    Valencia to Vertongen tonight, or wait?

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  11. TSILIKAFENEIAKOS
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Bolassie , Ibra to go out for now - have 2FTs, so maybe take a hit later on to bring in Wally. Till then (Kun, Luk the other two)

    who to get ?

    A. Son and ______
    I am afraid Costa will get a yellow once I get him so might wait a little bit. Austin / Deeney maybe ?

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  12. wbm
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Heaton / Foster
    Walker / Baines / Holebas / Smith / Amat
    Sterling / Firmino / Antonio / Snodgrass / Capoue
    Aguero / Costa / Lukaku

    2 FT - 0.8 ITB

    Would like to upgrade midfield a bit, Son/Sanchez/Walcott all looking very tempting.
    But I should probably just wait and see if I get any injuries during the break?

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    1. Rich_20
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wait. I got rid of mine early because of impending price drops, but you should be ok. Son and Wally likely to rise quick so you could do one transfer now.

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      1. wbm
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks for the input.
        Thinking about doing Antonio > Son now.
        But feels a bit wrong to ditch Anotonio with good fixtures and stats.

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  13. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    If Theo doesnt rise tonight he will rise tommorow night right ?

    Dont want to miss his price rise as i want to get him for next gw

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Do you think he'll start for England? Injury risk

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    2. MTPockets
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Looks like it. That's my dilemma as think he'll outscore antonio by 4 (hit) over next couple but otherwise stupid time to be transferring.

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      • Differentiator
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Sacrificing a 0.1 over an Intl break is worth it IMO. Can give you so much flexibility in case of the worst...!

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    3. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Zlatan to ...

      A) Tekkers

      B) Deeney

      C) Austin

      D) stick

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      1. KISSES
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Deeney

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      2. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        B

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      3. GE
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Lukaku?

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    4. Lazarus Star
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      You know you've had a crap week when your 3rd striker (Benteke) is the top scorer of the GW with 5 points which makes up 20% of your total score!)

      Plummets 300k with a total of 25 with a team containing Aguero, Ibra and Sanchez!

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      1. KISSES
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Chin up mate!

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    5. KISSES
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ship Ozil for Wally?

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      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yes from me

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        1. Differentiator
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          And it's a yes from me

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          1. TheTinman
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Guys.... THREE yesses

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            1. KISSES
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              ta lads

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    6. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Baines >

      a) Walker

      b) Koscielny

      c) Rose

      d) Bellerin

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      1. KISSES
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Kos

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      2. BadgersBoys
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        D

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      3. Fergietime
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Will Baines not be ok?

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      4. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        B or D

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      5. MTPockets
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Bellerin if affordable.

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      6. BadgersBoys
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Bit of a 'meh' week then, for me..

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      7. FPL_DON
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Is this team worth wildcarding?

        Foster Jak

        Valencia Amat Friend Souare* Stones

        Capoue Sanchez antonio son fletcher

        ibra aguero lukkaku

        All feedback appreciated!

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        1. GE
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          No from me 🙂

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          1. FPL_DON
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            thank you mate

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      8. Fergietime
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        28 points - I dropped from 604,623 to 1,031,201- Holding onto Hazard and Ibra was a bad idea.

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        1. BadgersBoys
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Ouch. Unlucky, mate. Could of went a lot different with them two unfortunately.

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      9. GE
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Please help me out! 🙂

        Current team:
        Heaton
        Valencia/Williams/Evans
        Sanchez/Firm/Antonio/Bolas
        Aguero/Zlatan/Defoe

        Bench: Pick/Amat/Love/Flet
        0,2 itb, 2 FT

        Next GW:
        1) Zlatan -> Lukaku
        Bolasie -> Walcott
        2) doing 1) + Antonio -> Son (-4 points)
        3) Zlatan -> Lukaku
        Bolasie -> Alli
        4) Something else?
        5) Be patient and wait until after the international break

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        1. FPL Puppy
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          1, with a pinch of 5. Only Walcott is changing in price tonight/tomorrow.
          If you can, try to wait as long as you can before making your transfers. But if money is an issue, then I understand if you want to do your transfers as soon as possible.

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          1. GE
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Thanks 🙂
            I actually did Zlatan -> Austin and Bolasie -> Walcott yesterday because Lukaku plays against City. Maybe too early 🙁 my plan is to do
            Defoe -> Lukaku next week.

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      10. MrPark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Current front 8:

        Lallana - Hazard - Ozil - Capoue - Zaha
        Costa - Aguero - Deeney

        Would you transfer out Hazard for Son?

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        1. TSILIKAFENEIAKOS
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          yes Costa is enough for Chelsa atm, doubling up is excessive. Also gives you money to do Ozil -> Alexis (maybe?) or Deeney to Luk

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          1. MrPark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Thanks - think I'll make the transfer before he goes up in value.

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      11. TSILIKAFENEIAKOS
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        What do you prefer over the next 2-3 Gws.

        A. Snod,Costa
        B. Mane , Austin/ Deeney

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        1. BB-8
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          B with Deeney

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        2. COYS Down Under
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          A

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      12. jurgenklopp.8
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        has overall rank been updated yet? idk how to check

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        1. BadgersBoys
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Yep.

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        2. Lyonnais
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          yes

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        3. Differentiator
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          yep

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      13. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Do we think Son is nailed for a while now?

        I either get Son tonight for free or get him later for a -4

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        1. Differentiator
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Absolutely is nailed.

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        2. Clayton_3
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Should be nailed until Kane is back.

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      14. DeeGee
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I have the same doubt like many others - whether to pull the trigger tonight or wait for the internationals ? I really can't afford the price rises.

        Planning to go for Haz + Antonio + Shaw > Son + Wally + Kosc

        It seems Son and Wally are both set to rise over the next couple of days.

        What do you suggest, would be the wise thing to do.

        I have 2 FT remaining. Probably rope in Son tonight and wait on the others?

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        1. MTPockets
            9 years, 3 months ago

            The wise thing is to wait.
            But personally a rise means I can't transfer so will probably be foolish.

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        2. BB-8
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Son potentially on pens now?

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          1. Differentiator
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Janssen if he's on the pitch, O/W. Son probably

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        3. leo_messi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Which option looks better guys?

          A) Ibra and Collins -> Costa and Mustafi for free
          or
          B) Ibra,Collins,Jakupovic -> Costa,Koscielny and Grant for -4 ???

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        4. The Royal Robin
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Are people selling Baines?

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          1. Count of Monte Hristo
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Don't like Everton's CS potential, he missed the penalty, his hamstring is dodgy. Just annoying to own and I've only had him a week.

            Arsenal/Spurs fixtures are better

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        5. The Royal Robin
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Kosc or Musta?

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          1. TheTinman
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Kosc

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