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The Dugout Discussion – Burnley vs Arsenal

2 October 2016 3936 comments
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Gameweek 7 comes to its conclusion as Burnley welcome Arsenal to Turf Moor.

The Gunners roll up on the back of four straight league wins, with Alexis Sanchez and Theo Walcott both in fine recent form.

The Chilean teed up Walcott’s pair of strikes in the midweek Champions League win over FC Basel and with three double-figure hauls in four, carries the armband hopes of many at Turf Moor.

Walcott has now notched five times in seven across all competitions and has risen to 6% ownership in Fantasy Premier League.

Another big performance today would surely kick start a bandwagon over the international break, yet Arsene Wenger’s side face an obstinate Clarets rearguard that has conceded just five goals in the previous 17 league matches in front of their own supporters.

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  1. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Rashford to Deeney or Benteke for a hit?

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  2. Miami Monkey
    10 years, 16 days ago

    The search for the 3rd striker: I need to replace Rondon this week and it is between Defoe, Deeney, and Austin. Everyone seems to be on the Deeney train, so I calculated scores based on "threat" from the FPL site. Here are the results. Also, I'm not sure what stats go under "influence" so I haven't included that, but if someone knows please say so. This is definitely making me rethink getting Deeney...

    Didn't include Aguero because we all have him, and removed Rashford because today's match made him a non option in my eyes.

    I just divided the "threat" score by minutes played. Here's how it looks:

    Ibra = 0.81
    Lukaku = 0.76
    Costa = 0.67
    Benteke = 0.53
    Defoe = 0.47
    Austin = 0.46
    Wilson = 0.37
    Deeney = 0.35

    Multiplied by a fixture ratio # to adjust for schedule difficulty (granted this included this week's matches as well, so not totally accurate):

    Ibra = 0.78
    Lukaku = 0.74
    Costa = 0.67
    Benteke = 0.51
    Defoe = 0.48
    Austin = 0.45
    Wilson = 0.39
    Deeney = 0.38

    Divided by their price:

    Lukaku = 0.079
    Austin = 0.071
    Ibra = 0.068
    Costa = 0.067
    Benteke = 0.067
    Defoe = 0.066
    Wilson = 0.061
    Deeney = 0.054

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    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Austin it is!

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    2. Slam
      10 years, 16 days ago

      So in conclusion you are bringing in...

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      1. Miami Monkey
        10 years, 16 days ago

        I have absolutely no idea. Want to hear the opinion of others. It also depends on budgets and who else you are looking to get in midfield

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    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 16 days ago

      I was planning on Rashford>Austin after Stoke and gives me exact money for Baines>Kosc

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    4. TheTinman
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Why on earth is this a hot topic. Times must be hard

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    5. COYS Down Under
      10 years, 16 days ago

      This fails to take into account Deeney's pens. There are no stats associated with that. Always take stats with a grain salt and apply a pinch of common sense.

      That said Austin does look good, as does Tekkers.

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      1. andymck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Don't Defoe and Austin take penalties as well though?

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        1. Scholes Balls
          10 years, 16 days ago

          Defoe does,not sure for Austin

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    6. Geri-hatricks
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Hmm thats interesting. I was set on Gray to Deeney.

      I still think taking fixtures inti account, Deeney will outscore Austin over the next few weeks.

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    7. TheTinman
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Why should a players rating be punished for minutes played? Surely more minutes is a good thing. It shows they are fit and key to their team.

      Skews the rest of the stats making them irrelevant in my opinion.

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      1. Miami Monkey
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Just because it wouldn't be fair with not all strikers having played the same amount of matches thus far

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    8. TheTinman
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Furthermore it ignores the fact that Deeney is probably the best assister out of all of them.

      Can anybody tell me who gave this the green paint?

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    9. the axolotl
      10 years, 16 days ago

      interesting. wonder how "threat" is calculated. i'm considering zlatan to deeney, as a KDB fundraiser. i'm doubting the strategy now

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    10. Lyonnais
      10 years, 16 days ago

      I need an Ibra replacement and would like to get Austin but Southampton's fixtures are putting me off.
      Burnley at home is his best fixture in the next 5 and as we know they are a tough nut to crack.

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    11. Numb
      10 years, 16 days ago

      What's happened to Rondon?

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      1. Lyonnais
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Poor fixtures coming up.

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    12. SuperMario
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Commenting to bookmark for later this week. 3 strikers!

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    13. Dr Dream
      10 years, 16 days ago

      I can't see past Benteke. Palace playing to his strengths, stats to match anybody and cheap....and he's doing the business.

      Having said that I quite like the Rondon pick. He'll be a pick and forget and somehow will muster 15 goals this season IMO.

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      1. Miami Monkey
        10 years, 16 days ago

        I can't afford him because I have Costa. If I had Lukaku I could

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    14. Miami Monkey
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Important to keep in mind that this does not take into account the strength of fixtures they have played in. Deeney had a tough start to the season. Defoe's was considerably easier. Austin hasn't played many matches yet

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    15. Miami Monkey
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Austin's next 3 fixtures putting me off now that I look at them. It's between Defoe and Deeney for me

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  3. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Pick* Jak*
    Kos 🙂 Walker Baines* Lovren* Amat
    Sanchez Sterling Firmino Antonio Capoue
    Kun Lukaku Diomande
    0.5 itb, 2ft. Lot of doubtful players, where to start?

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    1. Concrete
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Baines and Diomande out?

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      1. Clayton_3
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Second that!

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    2. TheTinman
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Baines probably back after break?

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  4. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Overall rank of 70k. Happy with a good first few weeks - aiming for the top 10k - obviously. And top of all my MLs bar one.

    Liking the look of my team for the next few gameweeks. Just need another transfer for Rashford >
    Deeney.

    0 transfers and 0.2m in the bank.

    Pickford. Foster.
    Vertongan. Williams. Holebas. Amat. Kelly.
    Sanchez. Firmino. Sterling. Son. Capoue.
    Aguero. Lukaku. Rashford.

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    1. Concrete
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Deeney, Wilson, Tekkers

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      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Austin.

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        1. Concrete
          10 years, 16 days ago

          Him as well... Decent option

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  5. Rider on the Storm
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Points are now confirmed?
    About wallys assist...

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Confirmed.

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  6. Concrete
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Baines to Shawcross

    Shawcross decent attacking stats. Want Koscienly but feel Shawcross could be a good differential in ML

    Yes or no

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    1. Rider on the Storm
      10 years, 16 days ago

      No

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    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 16 days ago

      I think a Stoke defender will do you well coming weeks and Shawcross has a lot of PB touches but I think Arse def essential atm

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      1. Concrete
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Cheers. I agree with this, might just get both

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    3. Pirlø's Pen
      10 years, 16 days ago

      No fkkkkkn chance ha

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      1. Concrete
        10 years, 16 days ago

        KPIs are good though

        Last punt from KPI was Arnie before his run last year and to a lesser extent Wilson this season

        With fixtures, I might just punt

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        1. jurgenklopp.8
          10 years, 16 days ago

          what is KPI?

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          1. Concrete
            10 years, 16 days ago

            Key Performance Indicators

            Player stats>Def>Attacking KPI

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  7. FPL Puppy
    10 years, 16 days ago

    RP
    2FT

    Ibra + Antonio -> Sanchez + Defoe/Deeney

    or

    Ibra + Antonio -> Wally + Costa

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      10 years, 16 days ago

      First one, but would wait another week on Sanchez

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    2. Rich_20
      10 years, 16 days ago

      A.

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  8. Slam
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Zlatan+Capoue+Baines -> Austin/Deeney + Son/Walcott + Koscielny
    -8

    Yay or nay?

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Yes imo

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  9. Hurricane Gilbert
    10 years, 16 days ago

    No luck at all so far this season. Stuck at 700k OR and would like to hear your advice on these options:

    A) Baines & Antonio > Cameron & Walcott (have no Sánchez)
    B) Rashford & Antonio > Wilson & Wally
    C) Sterling & Antonio > Walcott & Son
    D) Sterling + Antonio + Rashford > Wally + Son + Deeney -4
    E) Baines + Antonio + Rashford > Cameron + Wally + Deeney -4

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  10. Nanoelektronicar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Pickford Foster

    Williams Valencia Pieters Collins Amat

    Ozil Firmino Walcott Antonio Capoue

    Costa Aguero Benteke

    Valencia to Vertongen tonight, or wait?

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  11. TSILIKAFENEIAKOS
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Bolassie , Ibra to go out for now - have 2FTs, so maybe take a hit later on to bring in Wally. Till then (Kun, Luk the other two)

    who to get ?

    A. Son and ______
    I am afraid Costa will get a yellow once I get him so might wait a little bit. Austin / Deeney maybe ?

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  12. wbm
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Heaton / Foster
    Walker / Baines / Holebas / Smith / Amat
    Sterling / Firmino / Antonio / Snodgrass / Capoue
    Aguero / Costa / Lukaku

    2 FT - 0.8 ITB

    Would like to upgrade midfield a bit, Son/Sanchez/Walcott all looking very tempting.
    But I should probably just wait and see if I get any injuries during the break?

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    1. Rich_20
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Wait. I got rid of mine early because of impending price drops, but you should be ok. Son and Wally likely to rise quick so you could do one transfer now.

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      1. wbm
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Thanks for the input.
        Thinking about doing Antonio > Son now.
        But feels a bit wrong to ditch Anotonio with good fixtures and stats.

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  13. HurriKane
    10 years, 16 days ago

    If Theo doesnt rise tonight he will rise tommorow night right ?

    Dont want to miss his price rise as i want to get him for next gw

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    1. Concrete
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Do you think he'll start for England? Injury risk

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    2. MTPockets
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Looks like it. That's my dilemma as think he'll outscore antonio by 4 (hit) over next couple but otherwise stupid time to be transferring.

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    3. Differentiator
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Sacrificing a 0.1 over an Intl break is worth it IMO. Can give you so much flexibility in case of the worst...!

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  14. FPL Maldini
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Zlatan to ...

    A) Tekkers

    B) Deeney

    C) Austin

    D) stick

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    1. KISSES
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Deeney

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    2. Concrete
      10 years, 16 days ago

      B

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    3. GE
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Lukaku?

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  15. Lazarus Star
    10 years, 16 days ago

    You know you've had a crap week when your 3rd striker (Benteke) is the top scorer of the GW with 5 points which makes up 20% of your total score!)

    Plummets 300k with a total of 25 with a team containing Aguero, Ibra and Sanchez!

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    1. KISSES
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Chin up mate!

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  16. KISSES
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Ship Ozil for Wally?

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    1. GE
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Yes from me

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      1. Differentiator
        10 years, 16 days ago

        And it's a yes from me

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        1. TheTinman
          10 years, 16 days ago

          Guys.... THREE yesses

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          1. KISSES
            10 years, 16 days ago

            ta lads

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  17. Count of Monte Hristo
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Baines >

    a) Walker

    b) Koscielny

    c) Rose

    d) Bellerin

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    1. KISSES
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Kos

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    2. BadgersBoys
      10 years, 16 days ago

      D

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    3. Fergietime
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Will Baines not be ok?

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    4. Concrete
      10 years, 16 days ago

      B or D

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    5. MTPockets
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Bellerin if affordable.

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  18. BadgersBoys
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Bit of a 'meh' week then, for me..

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  19. FPL_DON
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Is this team worth wildcarding?

    Foster Jak

    Valencia Amat Friend Souare* Stones

    Capoue Sanchez antonio son fletcher

    ibra aguero lukkaku

    All feedback appreciated!

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    1. GE
      10 years, 16 days ago

      No from me 🙂

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      1. FPL_DON
        10 years, 16 days ago

        thank you mate

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  20. Fergietime
    10 years, 16 days ago

    28 points - I dropped from 604,623 to 1,031,201- Holding onto Hazard and Ibra was a bad idea.

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    1. BadgersBoys
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Ouch. Unlucky, mate. Could of went a lot different with them two unfortunately.

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  21. GE
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Please help me out! 🙂

    Current team:
    Heaton
    Valencia/Williams/Evans
    Sanchez/Firm/Antonio/Bolas
    Aguero/Zlatan/Defoe

    Bench: Pick/Amat/Love/Flet
    0,2 itb, 2 FT

    Next GW:
    1) Zlatan -> Lukaku
    Bolasie -> Walcott
    2) doing 1) + Antonio -> Son (-4 points)
    3) Zlatan -> Lukaku
    Bolasie -> Alli
    4) Something else?
    5) Be patient and wait until after the international break

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    1. FPL Puppy
      10 years, 16 days ago

      1, with a pinch of 5. Only Walcott is changing in price tonight/tomorrow.
      If you can, try to wait as long as you can before making your transfers. But if money is an issue, then I understand if you want to do your transfers as soon as possible.

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      1. GE
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Thanks 🙂
        I actually did Zlatan -> Austin and Bolasie -> Walcott yesterday because Lukaku plays against City. Maybe too early 🙁 my plan is to do
        Defoe -> Lukaku next week.

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  22. MrPark
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Current front 8:

    Lallana - Hazard - Ozil - Capoue - Zaha
    Costa - Aguero - Deeney

    Would you transfer out Hazard for Son?

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    1. TSILIKAFENEIAKOS
      10 years, 16 days ago

      yes Costa is enough for Chelsa atm, doubling up is excessive. Also gives you money to do Ozil -> Alexis (maybe?) or Deeney to Luk

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      1. MrPark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 16 days ago

        Thanks - think I'll make the transfer before he goes up in value.

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  23. TSILIKAFENEIAKOS
    10 years, 16 days ago

    What do you prefer over the next 2-3 Gws.

    A. Snod,Costa
    B. Mane , Austin/ Deeney

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    1. BB-8
      10 years, 16 days ago

      B with Deeney

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    2. COYS Down Under
      10 years, 16 days ago

      A

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  24. jurgenklopp.8
    10 years, 16 days ago

    has overall rank been updated yet? idk how to check

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    1. BadgersBoys
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Yep.

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    2. Lyonnais
      10 years, 16 days ago

      yes

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    3. Differentiator
      10 years, 16 days ago

      yep

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  25. FPL Maldini
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Do we think Son is nailed for a while now?

    I either get Son tonight for free or get him later for a -4

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    1. Differentiator
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Absolutely is nailed.

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    2. Clayton_3
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Should be nailed until Kane is back.

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  26. DeeGee
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 16 days ago

    I have the same doubt like many others - whether to pull the trigger tonight or wait for the internationals ? I really can't afford the price rises.

    Planning to go for Haz + Antonio + Shaw > Son + Wally + Kosc

    It seems Son and Wally are both set to rise over the next couple of days.

    What do you suggest, would be the wise thing to do.

    I have 2 FT remaining. Probably rope in Son tonight and wait on the others?

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    1. MTPockets
      10 years, 16 days ago

      The wise thing is to wait.
      But personally a rise means I can't transfer so will probably be foolish.

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  27. BB-8
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Son potentially on pens now?

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    1. Differentiator
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Janssen if he's on the pitch, O/W. Son probably

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  28. leo_messi
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Which option looks better guys?

    A) Ibra and Collins -> Costa and Mustafi for free
    or
    B) Ibra,Collins,Jakupovic -> Costa,Koscielny and Grant for -4 ???

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  29. The Royal Robin
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Are people selling Baines?

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Don't like Everton's CS potential, he missed the penalty, his hamstring is dodgy. Just annoying to own and I've only had him a week.

      Arsenal/Spurs fixtures are better

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  30. The Royal Robin
    10 years, 16 days ago

    Kosc or Musta?

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    1. TheTinman
      10 years, 16 days ago

      Kosc

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