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With Spurs registering a fourth clean sheet and Laurent Koscielny making his move as the go-to Fantasy Premier League defender, suddenly there’s a suggestion it’s time to re-assess our back line options.

Having settled on defences largely populated by mid-price and budget options, is it now time to re-align our sights and investigate the defensive heavy-hitters?

We posed that Burning Question to a cast of Fantasy Football Scout contributors…

Paul says…

Over the years, the strategy of investing in budget assets at the back and splashing the cash in attack is a tried and tested one.

Arguably, though, this season has handed us more options than ever before.

The emergence of great value picks in midfield may well allow us to strengthen in defence a little earlier than we typically tend to.

Yes, Alexis Sanchez has had a great start to the season, but he’s only seven points clear of Theo Walcott and 3.6 more expensive.

Walcott, along with Heung-Min Son and Michail Antonio have equalled or bettered all but one forward (Diego Costa) thus far.

All three are under 8.0.

Throw in Liverpool’s ridiculously good schedule from Gameweek 9-18 and one or both of Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho look very enticing, having both averaged more than six points per match so far.

That pair are priced under 8.5, while in-form team-mates James Milner and Adam Lallana are even cheaper.

Sergio Aguero will remain my go-to premium attacker but by focusing on value for money elsewhere – and forgoing pricey picks such as Sanchez and Zlatan Ibrahimovic – there seems to be significant scope to invest in pricier rearguards.

Spurs and Arsenal have looked solid at the back, with the Gunners’ acquisition of Shkodran Mustafi looking a great piece of business.

With both Man City and Leicester offering first-team regulars at 5.0 ahead of some excellent upcoming schedules, shopping outside of the budget bracket seems more viable than ever.

Dufflinks aka Simon March 2014/15 FPL Champion says….

You’d have to search hard to find a compelling reason to invest in defence based on the opening seven Gameweeks.

Even Tony ‘The Chambermaid’ Pulis looks unable to deliver clean sheets on a regular basis and, while Spurs have probably been the standout team so far in this respect, even they’ve shown themselves susceptible to the odd defensive lapse.

Meanwhile, there seems to be a new outstanding attacking option emerging every Gameweek. No wonder people are shifting their budget into attack.

But this defensive inconsistency isn’t necessarily a new thing.

Clean sheets are notoriously hard to predict early on in the season, but then, at some point, a switch seems to get flicked and, suddenly, the teams that you would typically expect to do well defensively start doing well defensively. According to Fantasy lore, this tends to happen somewhere around the middle of the season.

But this campaign may well be different.

It feels like we’re seeing more penalties and goals from set plays, the presumed catalyst being the new rules penalising contact in the area more harshly. If this isn’t relaxed, or if teams don’t quickly learn to defend better under them, clean sheets and, by extension, defensive points will continue to suffer.

However, there’s also a potential opportunity here as these rules play right into the hands of those defenders with good attacking instincts from set-plays. Standouts in this category include Scott Dann at Crystal Palace, Virgil van Dijk at Southampton and Spurs’ Toby Alderweireld.

However, were I to invest in a premium defender right now, I’d be looking at Koscielny at Arsenal.

He has already notched twice already this season or, the perhaps less-obvious choice, his team-mate Shkodran Mustafi who, while yet to score for the Gunners, had a similar goalscoring record to Koscielny while in Spain.

Arsenal are one of those teams you’d expect to do well defensively and, with a good run of fixtures to come, should that switch get flicked early this year, it could be those two who profit the most.

Jonty says…

I’ve always thought that it is important to spread money across the positions – I often like to have at least two defenders I’m happy to play each week, either because they offer a reliable source of clean sheets or provide attacking potential.

Leighton Baines, Antonio Valencia and most recently Patrick Van Aanholt have all graced my defence with their presence this season, and I’m more than happy to spend a little more to upgrade even further by converting one to an Arsenal’s or Tottenham asset.

The defence has been and continues to be a great way of opting for relatively cheap differentials, as those who drafted in Koscielny ahead of his Gameweek 7 “goal” can testify.

Bonus points are also key to consider when spending big in defence.

Earlier this week I took a look at the bonus magnets so far, including an examination of FPL’s Bonus Point System, which is used to allocate the points.

Only two players, James Milner and Kevin De Bruyne, have better FPL Bonus Point System scores than Daley Blind, who looks an excellent investment at 5.6.

Blind, along with Spurs’ Kyle Walker, are the only defenders to join the likes of Sergio Aguero and Romelu Lukaku in earning seven or more bonus points. Attacking threat, and in Walker’s case, clean sheet potential make them standout picks.

Laurent Koscielny also looks a great option, with solid clean sheet potential over Arsenal’s forthcoming kind run of opponents. However, while he’s proven his attacking potential, in terms of bonus, he will often be overshadowed by team-mates further up the pitch.

Koscielny’s goals shouldn’t cloud our judgement – he won’t score every week, so I’m currently favouring Blind and Walker as the more consistent points scorers in defence.

Andy says…

Big-hitting defenders aren’t something I usually pay attention to until later in the season.

So far in this campaign, my tactic has been the same with Antonio Valencia and Leighton Baines at £5.5m being the highest priced defenders I’ve owned.

With two free transfers going into the international break, however, I have started to look towards both Arsenal and Spurs defence given the number of clean sheets Spurs have registered, coupled with the Gunners’ excellent fixtures.

Big-name defenders rarely offer viable captain options, and they’re not players that rouse excitement but they can bring in a steady stream of points once you include bonus.

I said on the Scoutcast recently that someone like Hector Bellerin at £6.5m could be great value versus a midfielder at the same price. With the fixtures ahead of Arsenal, I can see players like Koscielny and Bellerin bringing in a steady seven to nine points per game, and with their price tags, this has to be something to consider.

For me, the key question surrounds settling on the big-hitters in attack.

It’s difficult to fit in Sergio Aguero, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Alexis Sanchez while spending in defence. In fact, for my own team, I would likely have to go without both Ibrahimovic and Sanchez to afford the Bellerin option.

That being said, I’m still considering it.

If Theo Walcott can retain his starting spot, I think he can be great value and, coupled with Hector Bellerin, could provide more points than a Sanchez and Jordi Amat combination.

While Bellerin may already be owned by 25% of teams, I would imagine if we scan our mini-leagues, he’s still a differential. And with Swansea City (h), Middlesbrough (h) and Sunderland (a) to come in the next three, he could emerge as a key asset.

Granville says…

Should we be guided by circumstance?

Koscielny actually missed a sitter and would have scored seven points if the laws of football had been applied.

When we isolate clean sheets, there might well be reasons to invest in Arsenal’s defence given upcoming fixtures, but they don’t offer quite the degree of goal threat that other sides do.

No Arsenal defender has more than three attempts at goal and, with that in mind, I would still be concentrating my spend on the Gunners attack.

If I was looking primarily for clean sheets, there are fewer tighter teams this season than Southampton and, with the next four of six at home, they might offer stronger value even if the fixtures are a mixed bag.

Spurs, on the other hand, are currently looking like a defence that can provide points at both ends of the pitch. They’ve claimed four clean sheets and the full-backs have returned three assists and a goal, together with a hatful of bonus points.

Manchester City are playing too open to be considered right now and are error ridden, while rivals United face a tricky run of fixtures.

Liverpool are another side who have four out of six at home, but only Nathaniel Clyne has been ever-present this season.

Statistically, Liverpool have been one of the tightest teams on show in terms of chances conceded, but they’ve suffered through individual errors. If this can be remedied, Clyne is your go-to man as he’s showing potential to score attacking points.

Mark says…

I’m wondering whether I’m being swayed solely by Spurs’ recent form and Koscielny’s output but, yes, I am currently considerably a policy that moves funds into defence.

For me, it’s always a viable tactic to start considering defensive investment as we near the Christmas period. I always feel that the crowded schedule and rest and rotation promotes lower scoring matches and allows the more robust defences to earn points.

It always seems like a spell to grind out results rather than go for the throat and gamble on all-out attacking football.

It means making sacrifices – I’m considering downgrading Etienne Capoue to a rock-bottom fifth midfield option, plus shedding Jermain Defoe to find another million.

Reluctantly, I will likely have to lose either Raheem Sterling or Theo Walcott, or even downgrade Alexis Sanchez.

For now, I want to postpone that decision – particularly while Arsenal’s fixtures suggest the goals will continue to flow.

Toby Alderweireld is my top target. Perhaps not immediately given that he faces four in six away from home but, eventually, he will find his way into my squad.

Koscielny may lead the way right now, but Alderweireld promises to rival his goal count. I also feel that Spurs will continue to flourish as the top defence, ensuring that the Belgian presents exceptional value.

It’s not a question of “if” but rather “when”.

In all likelihood I’ll have other issues to fix over the next month but, if form and injuries allow it, I’ll be manufacturing a move for Alderweireld and deciding where to make the sacrifice.

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  1. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Kos or Bellers?

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Kosc more injury prone

    2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Bellerin if U can afford. I think hes worth the money

    3. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Bellerin

    4. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      maybe both. 6.5mil would seem pretty cheap for a mid

  2. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I missed these articles were you get all the guys opinion on something.

    I asked this exact same question for tonight's scoutcast earlier!

  3. Cevap
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    from last article.... always late to the party 😆

    @Annie...

    sorry about the last question on the last page...had something to take care of at work. Not just Ibra to one of them, also upgrading McCauley to a Ars defender. 2 FT's

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Bellerin I hope ;), tempted to captain him now

      1. Cevap
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        🙂 may save 0.5 with Mustafi...but very tempted

  4. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    The only players I think who are worth getting in as premium defenders are vertonghen and bellerin . If you can get a spurs defender at 5.5 (the price I got him at) then id much rather that then splash an extra mil on essentially 6 goals.

    Bellerin Is a no brainer for me. He Hoovers up the bps and gets assists and plays in a very good back 4

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Well he doesn't exactly hoover up the baps. Does he not depend on attacking returns to get them generally?

      1. Ziegler1988
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Got 3 bonus in the Leicester 0-0 match, but I wouldn't say he's a bap whore. Monreal had better baseline BPS last season

        1. UnitedFan
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          I agree. The Leicester game he got three but the game against Burnely all the other three in that back for got some and he didn't. So maybe he doesn't have to rely on attack to dip into the bonus, but he's not a bap hoover either.

  5. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on day&night nurse??

    1. BENOIT
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      You what...

  6. davies
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Which one to play?

    A) Williams (mci)
    B) Evans (TOT)

    Currently benching Foster so wouldn't be a double up with Evans. Leaning towards B.

    1. rnrd
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Obv B

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B

    3. JaydenLFC87
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B.. easy 1

    4. davies
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Unanimous - thanks lads.

  7. jonnyleeds
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    If you get jumped by a bunch of killer clowns...go for the Juggler 🙂

    1. Pap Le Cissier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      You could just run

      Them chasing you in those big clown shoes is no small feet

  8. CloudSky
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Would you go for Bellerin or Mustafi? That 0.5 can go a long way and feel Bell is to dependent on attacking returns (but given with fixtures, it could work).

    1. JaydenLFC87
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Bellerin will see points at both ends of the pitch over the next few weeks imo.

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Bellerin

  9. JaydenLFC87
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Can one add any insight to changes on the team below?? Or am i set for the GW ahead

    Cech
    Smith Matip Stones (Amat 4mil)
    Sanchez Firmino Son Tadic (Barry)
    Costa Austin Aguero

    Have tried to spread the wealth evenly throughout

    1. mahone24
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      That defence could cause you some problems

  10. McQueen
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks for this, you all answered my Scoutcast question with this article. I'm getting Koscielny so I find this very helpful.

    Cheers.

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      in a game of so much guess work koscielny seems one of few players who you know what you're going to get with. 4 seasons of solid returns

      1. McQueen
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I agree. I had him last year for some time, got a few goals from him and was lucky enough to get a 15 pointer from him also. CSs are what I'm going for with him and a few bonus points. (an odd goal here and there is only a bonus)

        Thanks again! Cheers.

  11. Pap Le Cissier
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone know if Cathcart is likely to walk back into the Watford defence?

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      i think so. he seems first choice in that right centre back role of the back 3. britos safe the other side, then kaboul and prodl vying for the beanpole role in the middle

      1. Pap Le Cissier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Ta. Think I'll hold him and shift Kingsley for Pieters. Self inflicted defensive mess on my wc

  12. thep025
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    How is this looking?
    Foster Heaton
    Vertonghen Stones Morgan Holebas Amat
    Sanchez Sterling Firmino Redmond Capoue
    Aguero Lukaku Deeney
    No FTs. Anything worth a hit?
    And in how many GWs should i be playing my WC?

    1. JaydenLFC87
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      You Def lacks attacking returns, though Morgan can get the odd goal,

      Apart from this all good, would stick

      WC and when you use it is a decision with many answers, use it when you have to or if you feel your team needs to be lined up for fixtures,

      1. thep025
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        True ....just removed Valencia for Vertonghen...Feeling Vertonghen will outscore him in the next few GWs .........

  13. JS27
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Antonio > Son for a -4?

    1. mahone24
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I'd say no

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      no

    3. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      No.

    4. Jersey
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      no

  14. Russell
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Who would you rather have this GW - Kone and Snodgrass vs Capoue and Mustafi??

    1. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      second one

    3. mahone24
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B

    4. Russell
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Cheers all!

  15. FootballManiac
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Guys

    1. lukaku & Valencia to benteke & bellerin and play 3-4-3

    or

    2. Lukaku & capoue to Austin & Walcott and play 2-5-3(AOA)

    1. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      1. You won't have an AOA chip every week.

    2. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      1

  16. chilli con kone
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    A. Baines/Valencia > Mustafi -4

    B. Play Baines/Williams away at City

    A or B?

    1. liiusions
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Play Baines

    2. Pap Le Cissier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B for me.

  17. mahone24
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    A/ Coleman, Capoue + Sterling -> Bellerin, Walcott/Son + bench fodder mid (-4)
    B/ Coleman + Capoue -> Mustafi + bench fodder

    1. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B for now

    2. TheShinKicker
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Why transfer out Coleman?

      1. TimA123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Coleman seems to be finding some form. Just scored again for Ireland

        1. TheShinKicker
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Plus some good fixtures coming up for Everton

      2. mahone24
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I want an Arsenal defender and Coleman only one I can transfer out to afford it. It's reluctant but I feel necessary.

        1. TheShinKicker
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Just seems like a bit of a sideways move. As I'm sure you know Coleman is a pretty reliable FPL player and now Koeman is there I would say his prospects have improved further. But I have both him and Kosc so it's easy for me to say this!

          1. mahone24
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Team envy! I can almost do it by getting rid of Lovren but just cant quite squeeze that .2 without taking a hit!

            1. TheShinKicker
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Thanks, have Walker as well so my defense is sorted for the rest of the season unless there are injuries. That's a shame, don't mind taking hits sometimes but not for defenders!

  18. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    How many have or are doubling up on Sanchez and Walcott?

    1. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Yes for the next 3 atleast

      1. mahone24
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        If Sterling is out I probably will

    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Alexis Theo Bellerin 😀

      1. Ziro
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Sweet mother of Jesus!

  19. dub75670
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Foster or Pickford in goal this GW?

    Foster at home to Spurs.
    Pickford away to Stoke.

    1. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Foster.

      1. dub75670
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Why do you think that? He's at home yes but surely spurs will score.

        1. CloudSky
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Thinking both will concede but Foster can grab more save points.

    2. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Pickford

    3. TheShinKicker
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Pickford, think both will concede but Pickford is much more likely to get those save points

  20. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Superb article. Really is a good read.

    Andy's point about Bellerin outperforming a £6.5m mid - very interesting.

    1. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      is it interesting? The budget midfielder you'd have to get wouldn't outperform a 5mil defender

  21. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Something is telling me to hold onto Antonio, but Son is in some crazy form.

    Advice?

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      if nothing else is pressing and it's free I'd do it.

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I'm staying put with Antonio. Good fixtures and Son isn't nailed.

    3. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Id hold.

    4. liiusions
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Antonio is playing up front though and has the fixtures, I'm giving him till next week at least

    5. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Sell

    6. ANON.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Hold

    7. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Mixed basket right here

    8. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I am refusing to do it for a - 4 .

    9. white lightning
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Keep Antonio. For midfielders he's top of the ICT Index.

  22. Jam0sh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Hello guys. Which one would you prefer of these two possible moves:

    A) Rondon & Valencia -> Austin & Mustafi (for free)
    B) Rondon, Redmond & Valencia -> Austin, Snodgrass & Koscielny (-4)

    1. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A.

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A. Don't get rid of Redmond for hit when they are playing Burnley at home.

    3. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A

    4. ANON.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A

    5. Russell
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A - but I would ditch redmond asap after this GW.

    6. Belalugozi78
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A

  23. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I've seen alot of people saying Benteke has bad fixtures and Austin being a better option but i've yet to be convinced of this. I've put Benteke's fixtures first and Austin second and put my thoughts.

    GW 7: West Ham vs Burnley - I'd say these are about even
    GW 8: Leicester vs City - Again not alot in it. Both teams have been flaky at the back but i would say Leicester is the slightly better fixture
    GW 9: Liverpool vs Chelsea - Again not much in it but Liverpool slightly better
    GW 10: Burnley vs Hull - Hull the better fixture here i think
    GW 11: City vs Liverpool - Liverpool the slightly better fixture here

    Would be interesting to hear other peoples thoughts on this.

    Cheers,

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      agree with your ratings.
      one thing i'd add is i think benteke can have a bad game and still play 90 the next week. austin is still in the 3 into 2 situation with long and redmond. even if it doesn't mean not starting it could mean a lot of withdrawals on around 65mins.
      that's why even if i admire the austin punt i feel more comfortable with the benteke

    2. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Palace seem to be scoring more goals and creating more, Saints a lot more defensive and have Euro rotation / fatigue to consider. I'd go for Benteke if pushed.

    3. Belalugozi78
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Agree.
      When it comes to fixtures and form I think they 're equal. But Benteke doesn't play euro games and is guaranteed 90 min every game so he is better choice imo.

  24. Park the bus
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Sterling & Valencia to Arnautovic & Mustafi with my 2 FT's? Leaves me with enough to do Jakup > Karius next week. Any Sterling news??

    1. ANON.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't be that keen on losing Sterling. Not sure about injury news but I don't think it's anything serious

      1. Park the bus
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        was thinking that. Altneratively it's Antonio -> Snodgrass to free up the funds. defence needs upgraded!!

    2. Belalugozi78
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I wouldn't like to lose Sterling in his form of life and I wouldn't pick Karius as Liverpool won't have too many CS and their goalkeepers doesn't also have lots of shots to save.

  25. tm245
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I don't know that the comparison of Toby/Bellerin/Kosc to a 6.5m mid holds up -- if I got one of them I would need to get the money from somewhere, so that would probably come from the very 6.5m mid in question.

    Isn't the proposition
    6.5m def + uber mid vs 4.5m rotating def + 6.5m mid?
    or
    6.5m def + 6.5m mid + 6.5m mid vs 4.5m rotating def + 6.5m mid + 8-8.5m mid?

    So don't these elite defs really need to be outperforming the 8-8.5m mids?

    1. Belalugozi78
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Probably you are right. I don't like expensive defenders and goalkeepers. If Milner was a defender in the game or Baines was injury free - they would easily outscore many expensive midfielders, but they're not.
      The best defender last year Bellerin had 172 points. None of 6 mil midfielders will have such a score. Last year was an exception I think with Mahrez (5,5). This year Chadli or Snodgrass have to score consistently to get close to that result.

    2. Triggy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Well, they need to outperform the "best" 4.5m rotating def of the ones in the team and any extra points the 8.5 mid gets over the 6.5 mid.
      6.5m def + 6.5m mid vs best 4.5m def in team + 8.5m mid

  26. Russell
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Mustafi or Monreal?

    Does Monreal hae rotation risk at all??

    1. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I'd have thought he does, but Wenger seems to have really gone off Gibbs for some reason. Tends to play every game does Nacho. Was he away on internationals?

      1. Russell
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yep, believe he played at least once too.

    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      both look nailed, monreal has held his spot around the psg match so it dont see too much danger going forward, maybe 1 rest around xmas but that's it.

      prefer mustafi tbh just because he at least might score, but wouldn't lose sleep over it.

      a crazy stat: mustafi got 14 yellows in la liga last season. no signs yet of that thankfully

      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Monreal looks really really attacking but for lesser returns.

        See a partnership if Iwobi holds onto that left spot though. Iwobi likes to cut in central which leaves space for Monreal.

        1. Russell
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Great thanks all - it's really a case of chaning Capoue to Snodgrass this week, or Valencia to an Arsenal Defender. Only have 1 FT and enough in the bank for one only.

  27. Ginola14
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    this is exactly why I opted for walker, kosc and coleman on my wc 2 gws ago, when you compare their prices to that of attackers with the added bonus of cs points it makes sense to have them over the course of a season, and they can always pop up with a goal or assist, getting them early also allowed for 3 big mids in the form of sanchez, firm and payet with cap the makeweight 4th, and even the strikers of aguero luk and deeney are strong, im actually considering downgrading luk to Wilson to allow capoue to be upgraded to cout/wally as they will score better

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      You didn't get a reply, but this is exactly my thought process. I'm slightly peeved I didn't go 442 or 352 on my WC, but I benefitted from Koscielny last week, just didn't have a 3rd pricey defender.

      Pickford - Jaku
      Koscielny - Baines - Pieters - Zuniga - Amat
      Sanchez - Sterling - Coutinho - Walcott - Capoue
      Aguero - Lukaku - Rashford

      Rashford > Wilson and Capoue > 4.4m on the cards, to do Zuniga > 5.5m def.

      1. Ginola14
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        smart moves in my book, maybe clyne for pools run

  28. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I've never really had a defender who gets me attacking returns. Looking forward to owning Bellerin now

    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      maybe you're the problem! quick, sell sell sell 😉

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        He is now due a few own goals 😉

  29. Squires FC
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    So... bellerin or toby?

  30. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Bellerin. Valencia. Stones.

    Think i'm happy to keep long term.

    1. Ziro
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      too early 😉

      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Maybe replace one of them with Rose.

      2. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Did you enjoy drafting? Whats the draft team looking like?

        1. Ziro
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Poor compared to others but have Kosc Fuchs Azpi and Holebas 😆

          Lukaku and Pogba among others.

          and thx for putting the word in

          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Show me that team. I've gone full maverick. Mkhitaryan as my 2nd round pick. LLoris and DDG as pick 3 and 4.

            DDG Lloris
            Smalling Alonso Naughton
            Mkhi Wilshere Moses
            Benteke Success Perez

            I know an offer for a keeper will come in soon.