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The Dugout Discussion – Middlesbrough vs Hull City

5 December 2016 921 comments
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Gameweek 14 comes to its conclusion this Monday evening as Middlesbrough welcome Hull City to the Riverside Stadium.

‘Boro’s Alvaro Negredo is the most popular Fantasy Premier League player on show tonight – the Spaniard is owned by just less than 14% of managers after netting twice in last week’s 2-2 draw at Leicester.

Aitor Karanka’s side have mustered just one clean sheet in the previous ten yet will be optimistic of defensive returns, bearing in mind that Hull have scored just once in their last three road trips.

With the fixtures set to turn in their favour from Gameweek 17 onwards, the Teesside team offer us the chance for some early festive scouting in the 8pm kick-off.

Roberto Snodgrass is the Tigers’ likeliest source of returns.

The Scot has produced more than twice the number of FPL points than any team-mate, though has managed just one goal on his travels so far.

Having conceded 15 times in their last four road trips, it’s fair to say that Mike Phelan’s side face a tough task to chalk up defensive returns tonight.

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  1. Carlton P
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    My -12 this week just got even better
    Fuchs l coutinho l giroud l kaku >
    Chambers l Sanchez l Costa l Kane (c)

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Upvote from a hits fan

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      1. Carlton P
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers mate

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        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          You know there are players who still say 'never take hits'? Idiots

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    2. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Good job 🙂

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    3. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth

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    4. Lawrø
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Inspired stuff!

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    5. BabyB
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Congrats and nice moves

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    6. Carlton P
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers guys
      Tbh my head fell off a bit when I did kun > giroud week before!!

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  2. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Good result for those of us with no involvement tonight.

    Long term it always would be 😉

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  3. FPLtfs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Heaton
    Alonso, Cedric, Holebas
    Sanchez, Hazard, Firmino, Sigurdsson
    Kane, Defoe, Austin

    Subs: Lloris, Amat, de Roon, Evans

    Would you change anything? Correct team and bench order you reckon? 🙂

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    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      5m ITB?

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      1. FPLtfs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Haha, does it look that bad? 2.2 itb. TV 105.1

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    2. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Looks

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    3. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Great

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      1. FPLtfs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks!

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  4. Numb
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    See, this is where Sky beats FPL

    Valdes (c) 18 pts 😎

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    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I miss UFPL for all that stuff. I should have played SKY really.

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Miss UFPL but hated Sky. Far too complicated

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        1. Numb
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Less complicated this year. You get one captain change per match day.

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        2. Bazzalona
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Sky is a piece of cake.
          Not took it seriously this year but should have.
          Bit late to start now.

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    2. ONSIDE 9
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Gibson (c) 24 here 😎
      Not sure how he got 12 though.

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  5. nkhoughton
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    How am I looking? Can't decide on the (C)

    Heaton
    Alonso Daniels Vertongen
    Hazard Alexis Firmino Siggy
    Anichebe Kane Costa

    Pickford Nyom Philips Fodder

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    1. Carlton P
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Alexis or costa for me, same front 6
      Nice squad man

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      1. nkhoughton
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Costa over hazard?

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  6. Lawrø
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone have a decent prediction on how much the average will go up tonight?

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    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not much

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      1. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        As decent predictions go, that's unnervingly accurate.

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        1. Numb
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks

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        2. Numb
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          It's a gift

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      2 -0

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    3. _Freddo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Average is 49.

      Top 1k is 68.

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    4. Z
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1 point max.

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  7. Carlton P
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    How nailed is chambers?
    Ayala back soon? Gibson looks a real talent

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  8. how now brown cow
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Utd v Spurs prediction for the weekend?

    Utd have to win don't they? Closer to Swans than Chelsea points wise at present.

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    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      2-0 Spurs

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    2. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1-1

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    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1-0 Zlatan

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    4. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      2-1

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    5. Bleach †
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1-0 Kane

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    6. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1-3

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    7. bojack
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If Spurs score early I think they'll romp home 3-1.

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  9. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I'm fecked with a back line like this aren't I??
    Pickford,
    Alonso, nyom, holebas, A.smith, amat.

    Very top heavy front 7.

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    1. Carlton P
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldn't go that far, it will get by
      Can you squeeze holebas > cedric?

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      1. FPLtfs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Nah, don´t think so. Similar to mine. Could you do Nyom -> Evans or Holebas -> Cedric?

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      2. Here's Tom with the We…
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Mine is worse, at least you have Alonso!

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        1. Here's Tom with the We…
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Holebas to Jones or Smith to Cedric?

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    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Classic FPL is all about finding cheap defenders.

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  10. Bleach †
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Any chance Jakupovic will play next game? 😀

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Maybe as a striker

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      1. Bleach †
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Why not.

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    2. M00N
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      50/20

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    3. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I might get a game for Hull myself next week

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  11. M00N
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    How likely is Alonso to double rise this week?

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Only once imo

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Just get him and stop fretting

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      1. M00N
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Want Cedric too just deciding who to get first. Given the fixtures I potentially could play:

        Cedric & Kos -- OR -- Alonso & Morgan

        Feel more points in option A?

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    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      no chance

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    4. Virgil Hilts
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He will go up once mid-week

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  12. eivtho
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is Walcott + Walker to Ake/Nyom + Hazard (-4) a good move?

    Rest of the team is: Pickford-Grant- Alonso-Love-Clyne-Holebas-Firmino-Gundogan-Sanchez-Fletcher-Kane-Costa-Austin.

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yes imo

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    2. Emp
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      no way

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  13. Monkey Hanger
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Ben Gibson does look the spit of his uncle Steve twenty-five years ago.

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  14. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Brought Can in for Bolasie. I can't see what's not to like tbh.

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  15. Differentiator
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I'll take a Barragan bonus point :O

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  16. Emp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    morgan or pieters to alonso? leicester defence has collapsed but stoke fixtures are terrible.. any chance leicester can turn it around?

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    1. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Just did Morgan -> Alonso fwiw. Will drop tonight or tomorrow

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    2. Virgil Hilts
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Both have to go. Leic form shocking. Stoke fixtures also

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  17. Hurricane Gilbert
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I'm tempted by doing Walker to Alonso for a hit. What would you do and why?

    A) Walker + 4 points: uni, BUR, HUL, sou, wat
    - very likely to be rested in BUR and possibly against wat too.

    B) Alonso: WBA sun, cry, STO, BOU
    - Much lower rotation risk because Chelsea has no decent back up
    - Price raises mean I need to act in this or the next GW

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    1. Emp
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      id wait three weeks those burnley and hull hoome games too good

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      1. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Trippier will very likely play against BUR.

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        1. Emp
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          why?

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  18. Cocky Spaniel Alves
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Anything worth a hit here?

    Cech
    Lovren Holebas Amat
    Alexis Firmino Siggy Pedro
    Kane Costa Austin

    Pickford Chambers Pieters Carrick

    0 FT 2.4 ITB

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I guess I would like to get Alonso in

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  19. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is Can the new Steven Gerrard and/or this season's Dele Alli?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      no

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      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        There's some big names on FFS backing him.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          The ones that didn't back Sanchez this GW?

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          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Hahahaha

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          2. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Did you captain Sanchez, TM?

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            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Nah, would have got 90 if I did.

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              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                I've just seen your team, TM. It should be you on the scoutcast giving out the advice!

                Have you got plans in place to get Alonso or upgrade Evans to Brunt?

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    2. Demí
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      New Capoue

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    3. M00N
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If anyone can, then Can can

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      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Yes!

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      2. Virgil Hilts
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        It would be quite a nice celebration next time he scores for all the Liverpool players to actually do the Can Can dance. If it's at Anfield, they could always play the music, e.g..

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvccyANdjnk

        To be honest, I think Firmino was actually in that video already.

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  20. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Can or Snodgrass?

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    1. dhamphiir
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Can

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    2. Darth_Newdar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Can playing for a much better team, I wouldn't particularly want a Hull player at the moment.

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    3. bojack
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      As a Snod owner, just don't do it to yourself.

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  21. Darth_Newdar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this set of transfers? Currently feeling reluctant to spend -8, but on the other hand want to catch Sanchez's price rises.

    Walcott, Firmino, Aguero --> Sanchez, Lallana, Costa (-8) [would have 0.3 ITB]

    Heaton, Pickford
    Alonso, Lovren, McAuley, Holebas, Amat
    Hazard, Firmino, Walcott, Sigurdsson, Fletcher
    Aguero, Kane, Austin

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    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Solid moves to be fair. You've already missed out on one Sanchez rise and Costa will probably go up again in the next few days.

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      1. Darth_Newdar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I hate making transfers on Saturday evening before all teams have played!

        I'm just worried they are a little sideways, but I suppose one Sanchez goal would just about cover the -8.

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  22. bojack
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    What would your next move be here. Snodgrass taking up far too much in funds on the bench:

    Foster Pick
    McAuley Holebas Mee Friend Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Firmino Siggy Snodgrass
    Kane Costa Nacho

    .8m itb.

    Snod -> De Rooniho next week? Or do I go more expensive, i.e. Can?

    Are we dolphinately finished with the fish puns now?

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    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Loving the Kane Costa Nacho front 3!

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      1. bojack
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers. Wait and sea on Nacho tho..

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    2. Z
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Depends on whether you'd make good use of the 0.6 if you went for MdR.

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  23. ZakAFC_
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Fuchs to Cedric? And go with 3 Southampton, inc Redmond and Austin 🙁
    Then Redmond out next week.

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    1. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      For free? Yes.

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      1. ZakAFC_
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        No, not for free

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        1. Pasqualinho
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          I'm not a fan of hits for defenders. I still do them, but I have a very, very low success rate and often wonder why I did. But if you need the 0.4 for your upcoming transfer then it's probably best to just do it and not get too annoyed when Cedric concedes.

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    2. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Check out Cedric's fixtures, you'd think he could pay back a -4 or even a -8.

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    3. Z
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I brought Cedric in on a -12 this week.
      Money only allowed me to do so on Saturday night and I really wanted him in, plus the added fact I'm going to watch Southampton next week.

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  24. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Would you downgrade Firmino for Can?

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    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Nee chance man. Give Firm Hammers at home.

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    2. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Joking. I hope.

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    3. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If your getting Costa or Sanchez because of it then I'd say yes otherwise no,

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    4. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Oh hell no...not a chance.

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    5. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      What would you do with the money? It is a big step down.

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    6. Heavy Data
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I have so ive got my fingers crossed it pays off this weekend

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  25. tm245
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    After Hazard, Sanchez, Firmino, who are your top three midfielders until the New Year?

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    1. liiusions
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Siggy + Alli

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    2. bojack
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Alli
      Siggy
      KDB

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    3. Heavy Data
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Siggy and Can

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    4. Demí
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      KDB, Mane, Alli

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Have exact cash for Mane and Alli, -4.

        Hard to resist
        Sanchez Hazard Mane Firmino Alli

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Looks very strong. Guessing 3-5-2?

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          1. tm245
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Yes, Anichebe has been a godsend.

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        2. Here's Tom with the We…
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Not sure I'd go without KDB if your going 5 in midfield and no Costa up top.

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          1. tm245
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Am wondering this as well.

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    5. Here's Tom with the We…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A lot of people seem to be getting rid of Firm!

      KDB, Mane, Alli. All too expensive if you have the others though!

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Am playing a 3-5-2 with Kane Austin up top, money is not really an issue.

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        1. Karan_G14
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Upgrade Austin to Costa rather than spending more money on another mid.

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          1. tm245
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Would be happy to, but Austin + premium should do better than Costa + 5-6m mid.

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    6. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Fixtures. Plenty of pts to be had against the likes of Swansea and Hull. Zaha against Hull this week, Philips against Swansea next week...blah blah blah.

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Hmmm, does Phillips stay advanced if Chadli comes back in?

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        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Dunno. Needs looking at.

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    7. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firmino is not even top 10 if we look at last 3 weeks.

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    8. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers, all. Will take another day or two to sort this one out.

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  26. Heavy Data
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Play Brunt vs Chelsea or Holebas vs Everton??

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    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Holebas

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    2. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Holebas

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  27. RedMarks 赤的
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    My current team (1 FT, 1.6 ITB)

    Mandanda, Pickford
    Pieters, Cedric, Brunt, Amat, Holebas
    Hazard, De Bruyne, Allen, Gundogan, Firmino
    Austin, Kane, Costa

    Options to get Alonso:
    (1) Pieters + Allen to Alonso + Can (-4 hit, exact cash)
    (2) Pieters + Gundogan to Alonso + Can (-4 hit, keep 0.5 ITB)
    (3) Holebas to Alonso (exact cash)
    (4) Other options

    Which one for GW 15? Thank you

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  28. La vida FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I'm going with the 3 main Chelsea men on my wildcard.... anyone else got the same?

    (for the record thats Alonso, Haz, Costa)

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    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Already have them

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    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Had them for a while.

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  29. Tangerine Army XI
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Taking hits is fun!

    My FPL transfers last week for -8

    Out: Williams (1) Coutinho (0) Gundogen (2) Bony (0)
    In: Barragan (7) Can (11) Siggy (2) Kane (c) (26)

    I make that a 36 point profit, taking into consideration I'd have more than likely made Aguero my captain if I didn't have Kane.

    Thanks Jonty for inspiring me to take hits!

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    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      It's so much more fun.

      So many doing it now that it might be time to start my "Hit a week" league.

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  30. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Aguero & Snoddy => Costa & Siggy (-4)

    Yes or no?

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    1. Carlton P
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Massive yes

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      1. Gooner97
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Or Fuchs to Alonso? Instead of Siggy

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        1. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Alonso more important imo.

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        2. donkey73
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          All 3 are good. Even -8 should pay back within a few gameweeks

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    2. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah

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      1. Here's Tom with the We…
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Deffo yes!

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    3. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Is there a bigger yes?

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    4. John Nerdelbaum
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yip

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