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1 May 2017 1577 comments
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The curtain falls on Gameweek 35 with a Vicarage Road meeting between Watford and Liverpool.

Jurgen Klopp’s charges arrive bidding to cement their standing in the top four, exploiting Sunday’s results which saw their major challengers drop points.

From a Fantasy perspective, Liverpool’s twin Brazilians will garner the most interest.

Both Philippe Coutinho and Roberto Firmino head into this encounter having prospered against the Hornets in the reverse fixture. Coutinho produced a goal and an assist for 11 points, while his compatriot went fared even better, recording two assists and a goal to total 15 points – his best tally of the campaign.

Both have the backing of new owners tonight, with Coutinho the more popular, finding his way into 50,000+ squads ahead of Gameweek 35, compared with Firmino’s 23,000+. The former is also favoured for the armband, with more than 122,000 (2.7%) trusting Coutinho.

But Liverpool are likely to face some resistance from the home side. Walter Mazzarri’s Watford reached the 40 point “safety” mark with six matches to spare and have earned victories with clean sheets in three of their last five Gameweek outings.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Only a Hazard of time
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts on Matic as a cheap mid assuming you already have Hazard and Alonso?

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      4-6 points. if not rotated. also like sgw carroll in swansea who are trying to avoid relegation and have sunderland in 37.

    2. Totally !rre!evant
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Could be rotated with Fab

    3. FP El Wonky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Good shout. He could get on the end of something

    4. FPL Pillars
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I am the champion of Morrison. Awful fixtures but he scored a brace VS Chelsea last season in same fixture. Back up pen taker and some set peice. 4.3 he's an enabler and I've punted on him. Likelihood all these cheap mids will have meagre returns.

  2. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Liverpool need to upgrade their fullbacks as much as the CB's. Very under the radar of how poor they've actually been.

    1. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Clyne not had a great season. Do you have other fullbacks? I mean real ones? 🙂

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        He's had quite a poor season if I'm honest. We have Trent, who has a lot of potential but he needs to be backup. Other than that, they're pretty poor.
        Unlike your lot! 🙁

        1. how now brown cow
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I've said it before but I do wonder if Klopp has done a lot to improve players.

          Still, top 4 is yours to throw away, and finishing above City, Utd, Arsenal not to be sneezed at. Next one will be a big season.

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Their whole squad is decentut not good enough. How many would get into Chelsea or Man City team?

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Agreed. Not quite sure how we're above Man C with only 3 games left. Their squad is lightyears ahead of ours. We have a muck squad.

        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Pep

          Still has t figured out the PL yet

  3. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone who doesn't think that is Goal of the season is a Man U fan wum or has never played the game. Brilliant

    1. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What about Janmaat owners?

    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Personally I thought he had shunned it 😉

  4. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Would you do Firmino to Tadic for a -4?

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      No

      1. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Why? 2 games vs 4 and Firmino is a lottery pick. Scores anytime, blanks anytime.

    2. MTPockets
        8 years, 11 months ago

        no

      • FP El Wonky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Probably not

    3. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Best combo from these...

      A, Gabriel + King

      B, Azpilcueta + Albrighton

      1. ryacoo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        A

      2. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        A

      3. Sweetboi
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        A

    4. Hochoki
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      which combination is better ??

      1. sanchez & gabbiadini
      2. alli & jesus

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        get all 4

        1. Sweetboi
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          This

      2. JAC THE CAT
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        1

    5. lordkippe
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Boruc/Caballero

      Alonso / Monreal / Stephens / Mcauley / PVA

      Sanchez / Hazard / KDB / Chadli / King

      Kane / Lukaku / Gabbiadini

      1. how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I'd ditch the Baggies personally. Not sold on PVA either.

        Nice to see something different mind.

    6. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Stephens or Yoshi if you have the money. Is Yoshi more nailed, or bettwer in FPL or both?

      1. JAC THE CAT
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Stephens

      2. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Stephens and just hope he plays vs Boro in 37!

      3. ryacoo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I'm getting both but will bench 1 in 36 most likely.

        1. Deulofail
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers all

      4. woodles
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        stephens a bonus magnet

    7. Chicken-Mandy
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      am i crazy for having cech and koscielny in my wildcard?

      1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        no. Expensive luxury but comforting

      2. Rhinos
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Only if you've kidnapped them and imprisoned them in a room with pictures of their dogs on the walls

      3. FP El Wonky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Maybe not. Crazy would be 3 defenders.
        Or a stroke of lucky genius.
        I had both kos and Cech in my wildcard and changed last minute to double man city.
        They've disappointed me so far.

    8. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What happened to Coutinho?

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Dead leg, couldn't run it off.

        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Do you know this for a fact ?

    9. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      A. Ozil and Gabi
      B. Sanchez and Anichebe

    10. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Currently own Alli + Kane and I'm on WC this week - should I stick with Alli or switch to Eriksen?

    11. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Caballero Pickford
      Yoshida Gabriel Stephens Holgate Mariappa
      Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Sane King
      Kane Jesus Anichebe

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Ey, thats my team, except for two players! 🙂 So it wont be a hit!

      2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Almost the same.. I'm just stuck on Ozil/Gabi or Sanch/Anich

    12. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Template template template everywhere !!!

      Any non template team here ?

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        No, how about your own?

        1. Sir Edo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Yesterday I asked for some differential tactics, but all tactics the same..

          1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            think there are choices to be made

            im looking at triple Chelsea triple spurs but no arsenal. There will certainly be those out there with triple gooners. All fairly template players but its just the precise combos

            1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              also don't fancy any man u due to injuries and rotation but see plenty of man u defensive assets in "template" drafts

            2. Sir Edo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Oh, my idea was to tripple Arsenal defence, and leave Spurs players out. Tripple City, Chelsea, Arsenal and play 15 good dgw players.. Too much to lose though!

              1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                exactly - there is a core skeleton which is probably most likely to score points but you cant have all of them

                cant have costa,kun,kane front line with haz,alli,sanchez,erik,KDB in mid then fill the defence with arsenal and Alonso. It just costs too much so you have to make choices.

                It is easy to work out a different team most are just too scared of the big template players

        2. The Overthinker
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Fall under the same category.
          Trying hard to get as many differential as i Can. Coz got nothing to lose .So why not have some fun

          1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            slight differential suggestion - thinking might hang on to Heaton and back him to outscore doublers with his decent fixtures

            1. The Overthinker
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Err you are too late with this.

              Removed heaton on Saturday itself. Was in my team since the start .

              Any other player you think would outscore dgw'ers?

              1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I just cant bear to let him go...

                The other one im currently hanging on to is Maguire. Great motivation, team form and goal threat

                1. The Overthinker
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Currently my team wrt 37 in mind , has 5 sgw players
                  Firmino,king, holgate, Maguire,jaku.

                  With all the template i am thinking just to stick with them.

          2. Sir Edo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Give me a good differential or a differential tactic that could work..

      2. lordkippe
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Mandanda/Robles

        Coleman/Bailly/Holebas/Janmaat/Collins

        Mkhitarian/Barton/Delph/Ramsey/Kante

        Borini/Calleri/Borja Baston

        1. Rhinos
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I actually have one of them 😆

          1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            ramsey?

            1. Rhinos
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Janmaat, he played quite well tonight was bit unlucky

      3. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Dare to suggest a strategy or player that is not in the template and you get shot down.

        1. lordkippe
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          seriously I think Chadli could be good in 37.

          1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Pick him then 🙂

      4. Only a Hazard of time
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Triple BOU defence, you heard it here first 😉

        1. Sir Edo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Tripple Arsenal defence!

        2. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          triple Bournemouth isn't the stupidest differential suggestion

          daniels, king, fraser or something.

          yes a bit crazy but could work with their form and fixtures!

          1. Sir Edo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Great fixtures but a little bit boring with single gw players in Bench Boost chip.

            1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              true but that's the question isn't it. Maximising doublers is the template option and theres a reason for that but this is an option that "may" pay off

    13. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Thank you very much mr Lovren for not scoring 13 points tonight...

      FFS members cup quarter finals here I come!

    14. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      On wildcard, would you rather have
      a) de Gea, Verthongen, Capoue
      b) Pickford, Holgate, Sane

      Rest of the team is
      Caballero, *
      Alonso, Monreal, Blind, Stephens, *
      Sanchez, Hazard, Alli, King, *
      Jesus, Kane, Gabbiadini

      1. Totally !rre!evant
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        b

        1. FPLtfs
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          cheers

      2. ladsofbunch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        A

    15. GuillermoDickero
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Thoughts on Gabriel?

      Likely to be displaced when mustafi returns in GW37 or worth a punt?

      1. how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Wenger probably experimenting with a back 8 by then.

        I think he's a risk.

      2. Totally !rre!evant
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Too many risks involved imo. Didn't have the greatest of games last time out, poor fixtures and like you said Mustafi returning

      3. GuillermoDickero
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers - I think the number 1 rule for Wildcards over the past few years that I've played is try not to punt on unecessary risks

    16. TOPCAT1960
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Swop one for Sanchez please

      A) Siggy
      B) Firmino

      1. how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        B

      2. Tommy J
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        B, playing on wing, no threat

      3. ladsofbunch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        B

    17. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Liverpool back to 1/9 for top four again, surely we can't throw it away at this stage

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        You would like to think that they are almost there

        1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Then again.. After what I've seen this season, nothing would surprise me!

      2. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Key word being Liverpool... We ain't safe yet!

        1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Prodl could have scored and that would have been another two points dropped. It was a drab game, though I think we just about deserved to win

      3. mir
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Think the key is Man Utd having to play Arsenal and Spurs away. City will finish 3rd and pool 4th.

    18. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      This is the only gameweek I'd consider using AOA, but I'm not certain.

      Basically it's Albrighton (WAT) or Yoshida (double).

      Feels wrong to bench a DGWer for essentially bench fodder, but Saints could easily concede twice in each game and Watford at home is a good fixture for a major differential.

    19. Pringle
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What do you prefer guys?

      A. Sane + Kane
      B. Alli + Costa

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        A

      2. nkhoughton
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        B

      3. ladsofbunch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        A

      4. woodles
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        B

    20. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Point: If your captain goes off injured within 20 mins your captaincy should automatically switch over to your vice captain. To what extent do you agree or disagree? Didn't affect me today with Coutinho (although I own him) but Jesus vs Bournemouth comes to mind too.

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Absolute not! Only brings more of a 'luck' side to the game.

      2. how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        No. Just luck of the draw.

      3. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Totally disagree

        Just the way the cookie crumbles

      4. MTPockets
          8 years, 11 months ago

          No it's tough luck.

          1. We Will Klopp you
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Fair enough, just me then, I just feel if your captain randomly gets injured within 20 mins it puts you at an unfair advantage but then again those who captain someone who comes of the bench for a 1 pointer would feel the same

            1. We Will Klopp you
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              *disadvantage

        • TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          You'll be wishing injuries to your captain most weeks

          1. We Will Klopp you
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Lol, true

        • Mooster©️
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I also think the captain should be awarded a goal if he has two decent shots and plays a terrific match;)

          1. We Will Klopp you
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Wouldn't go that far, just feel that when your captain goes off within 20 mins it puts you at an unfair disadvantage

        • Rhinos
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          What if he goes off on 21 mins

        • Big Mac 24
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          What if he's scored a brace in the first 20 minutes and is sitting on 3 BAPS? Stick or twist!! It's a game of luck as well as a certain amount of skill, Captains can send you to 7th heaven or just as quickly to hell.

          I Captained Gabbiadini, my closest rival Aguero, he's now 22 points behind after his C getting 22 moe points than mine!

      5. nkhoughton
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Would alli Eriksen Kane be too much come 37?

        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          No

        2. how now brown cow
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          If we lose on Friday, then yes.

        3. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          No I've had those 3 many weeks this season but sold Eriksen to have Hazard and Sanchez

        4. Rock Papiss Cissès
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I've had all 3 for weeks. nothing but green arrows

        5. MTPockets
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Undecided. Between Alli/Costa atm.

        6. Jinswick
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          No WC left so looking at doing Grant & Valencia out for a (-8). Best replacements for 10.3m total?

          A) Cech/DDG/Lloris & Gabriel/Cedric
          B) Courtois & Yoshida
          C) Pickford & Kos

          Grant, Jaku
          Valencia, Brunt, Bavies, Stones, Robertson

          1. Rhinos
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Do you reboot in June?

            1. Jinswick
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Computer says no

        7. Rock Papiss Cissès
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Likelihood of Bellerin playing till season's end?

          1. how now brown cow
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Depends on formation. got to be a risk.

          2. Syd.
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Low

            He has forgot how to play of late

          3. Rock Papiss Cissès
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Cheers. Gabriel it is

        8. The Architect of Anarchy
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Repost

          Team looks in a bad shape for dgw. With no WC i guess hits and hits I'd the only solution
          How shall i go ahead for dgw? Don't have WC. Which should i Do?
          1.7 ITB..
          Got only BB remaining.

          Heaton
          Kompany-cahill-bailly
          Albrighton-siggy-eriksen-sanchez
          Gabbi-vardy-costa

          Bench - jaku,baines, zaha, McCauley.

        9. SuperStig
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          So looking to catch up in my mini-league.
          Already used my wc.
          After Cout limped off tonight I got triggerhappy and brought in Walcott as his replacement.. Now I am thinking why not captain the lad for 36..? After all I am looking for a differential and he potentially has got dgw..
          My boys are:
          Heaton, Pickford
          Yoshida, Davies, Jagielka, Bailly, Maguire
          Alli, Haz, Sané, King, Walcott
          Rashford, Lukaku, Kane

          Thoughts?

          1. Stinglikeabee
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            He might not start.

          2. MTPockets
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Could prove genuis. Or disastrous.
              I'm still tempted to risk him too.

          3. abaalan
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Hah a bad week on wc and now got Bailly, Cout and Afobe injured.

            2.6ITB. Your move....what would priority be on getting those lot above out?

          4. Smoky Johnson
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            I have the WC team i want now. Its exactly 0.0 itb and with price rises coming in tonight, do i just confirm this already and not look back?

            1. Rhinos
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              No s hit

            2. nkhoughton
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              If it's a wildcard why are you hesitant

          5. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Sell Aguero to

            A)Costa

            B) Jesus

            to afford Coutinho>Sanchez

            1. Rainer
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Do you own either Hazard or Sane?

              1. Kiwivillan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I own Hazard

                1. Rainer
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Jesus calling!

            2. Kiwivillan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Or keep Aguero and Cout to arse mid not Sanchez

            3. zotter
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Jesus

            4. BananaNose Maldonado
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              You have (oftentimes rightfully) railed against Costa so much this year, I think you are ethically bound NOT to get him, Kiwi 🙂