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10 August 2017 2682 comments
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In the words of Cockney prophets Chas & Dave: ‘Spurs are on their way to Wembley, Tottenham’s going to do it again’.

This season, in a move that even a dreaming Ossie Ardiles might tire of, they’ll be on their way to Wembley many more times than usual to fulfil 19 Premier League home fixtures while their new stadium is being built.

And the fear is that what Tottenham’s going to be doing again is struggle.

The precedents are not good – West Ham suffered when they moved into their new home last season, while Spurs lost two and drew one of their four European matches at Wembley in 2016/17.

A strong second-place finish last campaign, fuelled by key assets Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen, would usually demand our Fantasy attention.

But will the move to Wembley change all that? Will it prompt a right old Knees Up or a case of Ain’t No Pleasing You?

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the fourth of this season’s Burning Questions: Is the Wembley factor really a concern when considering Spurs’ assets?

Peter Kouwenberg (Hall of Fame #1) Says…

A confession: I was one who skippered Kane for the Hull City and Burnley blanks last December before a rare rage-transfer out – just in time to ‘enjoy’ his festive haul of six goals in four matches.

I also became something of an expert throughout the season at swapping Eriksen in and out for Alli, just in time to miss each other’s goals and assists, before finally admitting defeat and bringing in all three players.

As a result, I am the last person qualified to comment on Spurs.

Much has been written about why they do, and may continue to, struggle at Wembley and if I was a Spurs fan, I probably would be a little bit nervous about this.

However, I would be far more fearful of not having Kane in my team, with a match away at newly promoted Newcastle and a home fixture against Burnley sandwiching the Chelsea clash.

I agree that there are viable alternatives – the Manchester City strikers and new boys Alvaro Morata and Alexandre Lacazette could all justify excluding Kane – but I’ll be riding out the first three games at least, after which the fixtures suggest it would be a brave or foolish player not to have at least one Spurs attacker.

Where I think the Wembley wariness will influence me is in not trebling up from the off. Alli was the first name on my first draft team sheet and I still think he (and Eriksen) could continue where they left off last season.

However, wagering over a quarter of my £100m budget on Spurs (including the injured Kieran Trippier) to beat their Wembley hoodoo may be a gamble too far.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

I believe that playing at Wembley for 19 home matches will make a difference, but how much this will affect the Spurs players is impossible to tell.

We simply don’t have a decent sample size of data to confirm how much of a factor Wembley will be. What we do know is that Spurs won 21 of 23 matches played at White Hart Lane last season across all competitions, and you would expect this will be difficult to match this time around.

Given Harry Kane is the most expensive player in FPL, at £12.5m, you have to take into account all factors when fielding a player who uses up such a significant portion of our budget. Playing at Wembley is one such factor.

Kane is England’s number one striker. He’s played at Wembley on a number of occasions, so we’re not talking about a novice with a complete unfamiliarity of his surroundings. What also works in Kane’s favour is that he is a nailed-on starter for Spurs so there is no rotation risk around him.

I believe that in considering Spurs’ assets, you have to play it by ear. What you can hang your hat on is that last season in the Premier League, Spurs had the joint-best goal difference at home and the best goal difference away. This tells you that they’re a very well-balanced team with FPL options across all positions.

They’ve earned the right for us to ignore the Wembley aspect to begin with, particularly with their favourable opening schedule.

But we might need to re-visit the issue once we have more evidence and information.

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

Stadium moves generally negatively affect performance.

Couple this with Spurs, and Kane in particular, being slow starters and there should be caution around their prized assets.

The 6-1 and 7-1 maulings they handed out in the spring were nearly three months ago. Their form – and that of all the other teams – is re-set for the new season and no-one has half an eye on the beach anymore.

I feel Spurs are less likely to win the title this season. Today’s Danny Rose story is symptomatic of the frustration at the club, with some players concerned that rivals have strengthened so much while their only business has made them weaker, ie losing Kyle Walker.

Then again, I’m open to the possibility of my thoughts deriving from confirmation bias.

Pretending Spurs have no options saves a lot of money and makes picking a team easier. There is a stadium move, but they’ve played there before so it’s not completely new. Kane hasn’t scored in August before, but that could mean he’ll score three months worth of goals this August to average it out.

Then there’s Eriksen and Alli who, as a rule, score more points each year. Even if they get ‘only’ this season, I don’t want to be missing out on that.

At the start you can only have so many top players. The tactic I generally use is to see what factors rule players out rather than in. I think Wembley is a big enough concern to put Spurs on hold for now.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

My theory when it comes to Spurs and the ‘Wembley factor’ is that their recent malaise there has less to do with the size of the pitch or the unfamiliar surroundings and much more to do with the fact that it is simply ‘Wembley’.

The venue is synonymous with ‘an occasion’ and, for the visiting teams and their fans, fixtures there take on a cup final atmosphere, irrespective of their actual significance. As a result, Spurs’ opponents typically bring along a larger, louder following and their players raise their game accordingly.

If this is true, then Spurs may have 19 ‘cup finals’ on their hands next season and this could, of course, impact on their players’ performances.

Though I expect Spurs to eventually adapt to their new surroundings and the greater pressure that comes with them, I might be concerned about their results early on in the season.

I’m less concerned, however, with the impact on Spurs as an attacking force.

Even if the results aren’t going their way, I think their usual suspects of Kane, Alli and Eriksen will still find opportunities to score.

The atmosphere might even work in their favour at times, with opposing teams less inclined to ‘park the bus’ in front of a more vociferous than usual away following.

So, while I might avoid their defence for a few Gameweeks at least, I’ll still be backing their attacking assets.

Jonty Says…

Spurs were an unstoppable force at White Hart Lane last season, racking up more shots than any home side and scoring 47 times – a tally only bettered by Chelsea.

In defence, they conceded just nine times in front of their own fans and kept 12 clean sheets – another two records for their 2016/17 stats cabinet.

Given that they effectively play 38 away matches this season, due to Wembley being their temporary home, the theory is that this fine record will suffer.

Leading the charge in pushing this theory are those that study pitch sizes. They will point out that, at 100 x 67 metres, White Hart Lane had the second smallest Premier League pitch last season and Spurs players may struggle to adjust to the extra space afforded by Wembley’s gigantic 105 x 69 metres (7,245 ) of turf.

West Ham’s travails after their move to a larger pitch at the London Stadium last season further strengthen this ‘groundsman’s argument’.

Then there’s Spurs’ track record at Wembley – a stadium where last season they were beaten by Monaco, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea and could only secure a draw against Belgian team KAA Gent. In fact, CSKA Moscow were the only side they managed to beat at the home of English football last season.

But I’m still not buying into the Wembley effect.

The key is that, in Kane, they have a player looking to win the Golden Boot for the third consecutive season and who still scored 12 goals on the road last season – with only Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero scoring more.

In addition, their away record was superb – suggesting the tight White Hart Lane pitch is not needed for success. On the road they conceded a mere 16 times- another record – and scored 39, which was only bettered by Manchester City.

If Spurs fail to replicate 2016/17’s form, it won’t be due to playing at Wembley. It will arguably be more to do with their failure to impress in the transfer market, where they have lost one of their best players in full-back Walker and have been forced to watch in envy as their rivals strengthen.

Paul Says…

Due to Spurs’ tactics under Mauricio Pochettino, I don’t think you can rule out the Wembley issue altogether, or at least in the very early stages.

Spurs play such a high-pressing game that, with more ground and space to cover in their new home, there’s a possibility that energy levels could drop later in matches and they might not be able to close down opponents quite so effectively.

That’s essentially a fitness factor and one that their manager will presumably address by ensuring that Spurs’ levels are even greater than before. It could initially have an impact but, as the season unfolds and the players up their match fitness and become more accustomed to Wembley, I can’t see it being an issue.

Kane’s minutes per away goal last season – which was almost identical to Romelu Lukaku’s at home – underlines that he’s far from reliant on White Hart Lane. At present, he’s the only Spurs player I own as I feel he’s unparalleled as a captaincy pick.

Elsewhere, you can also point to the fact that Alli had more big chances away from home than any FPL midfielder last season. Eriksen, meanwhile, sat first for shots and key passes, and his penchant for efforts from distance is unlikely to be quenched.

Defensively, I’m going to steer clear of Spurs for now and see if they can maintain the same levels of resilience as last season.

But with Burnley, Swansea City and Bournemouth three of their first four visitors, the opening schedule should allow them to settle and give us time to assess any possible Wembley impact.

Mark Says…

While they have been conspicuous by their absence in the transfer market, in many ways it was difficult to strengthen Pochettino’s first XI and, under normal circumstances I’d reluctantly be installing Spurs as title favourites.

But the Wembley factor has to be a consideration and, coupled with the sudden unrest in the camp following Rose’s outburst today, I do have escalating concerns about their prospects.

The pitch size and sense of occasion created by the stadium move is less of a factor than the morale issues for me.

I worry that, with a ready-made excuse for a reduced title bid, the mood in the camp could suddenly plummet further.

One of the main reasons for Spurs’ success last season was the fact that they came across as the most unified and spirited of teams.

But cracks are now appearing and I do feel that the re-location will compound matters.

Having said that, I am still struggling to overlook Kane.

Based on last season’s output, he is peerless as a captain option and while there is explosivity and possibly consistency on offer from Romelu Lukaku and Gabriel Jesus, they are for my money still giving chase to Kane for these qualities .

So Kane will likely get the nod for me, regardless of my concerns.

However, I am unlikely to back him with Eriksen or Alli for fear of over-investment in a side perhaps on the verge of a transition – both in terms of venue and, perhaps, mentality and confidence.

  1. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A. Bertrand and Tadic

    B Stephens and Willian/Fab(Any preference on either one?)

    1. Frozen flying mammoth
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B with Fab

    2. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B with Willian.

    3. Rhodes your boat
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B with willian

  2. DD11
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Fairly settled on this but would appreciate any thoughts!

    Foster - Hart
    Danilo - Bertrand - Daniels - Mee - Morgan
    De Bruyne - Mané - Pogba - Phillips - Carroll
    Kane - Morata - Abraham

    1. Rhodes your boat
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Change morata asap not fit yet

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Rest looks okay

  3. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/895689458367868929

    BoomXhakaLaca tomorrow 😎

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I've heard you might be back in the starting line-up tomorrow. Any truth in it? 🙂

      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Yes mate! I'm feeling great and ready to play, I just need to sort out my fantasy team before the deadline ...

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          top man, don't go cramping up while working on that fantasy team!

          1. Arteta
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 6 months ago

            I'll try not to 😆
            And good luck to you for the coming season!

    2. johnnys balloons
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      if this is true, Ozil wont start

  4. Pompel
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Think my team is getting there:

    Forster
    Bavies - Yoshida - Hegazi
    KDB - Salah - Fabz - Milivojevic
    Lukaku - Kane - Benteke
    (Elliot - Mee - Long - TCarroll)

    Still ruminating whether to punt on Jesus over Big Rom. Also considering swapping Bavies for Bertrand and then Yoshi -> Dann, arguments further strengthened by this article.

    1. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I think Benteke is overpriced. No penalties a concern for me.

      1. Pompel
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Yes, it is a concern. Don't have the 0.5 extra for Firmino though

  5. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Starting the season on friday, sucks. I want at least an hour to sweat it out before i mess my final team up, not come home from work and have 10 mins before deadline is over

  6. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Requesting a rate my team. Thank you.

    Got slaughtered last time I posted it

    1. Rhodes your boat
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Looks good to me

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Elliot
      Milner / Valencia / Danilo
      Pog / Mik /Salah / Atsu
      Aguero / Jesus / Firm

      subs__Speroni / Romeu / Dummet / Mason

      0 itb Cheers!

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Wouldn't have both pogba and mkhi, would also try and get a spurs attacker in

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        I wouldn't double up on Man Utd attacking players but other than that, I quite like it.

      3. WE ARE RANGERS
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Think Aguero is a step too far especially when you have Jesus, get Lukaku instead and remove one of pog/mik

        1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          This may happen after the first match. It is a first game team tried to balance all the big hitters. with a strong defence.

          tx

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Your players tend to disappear in matches.

      1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        🙂 Cheers.

    4. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      If you're happy, I'm happy.

  7. Sweetboi
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Pick one please:

    a) Kolasinac + Danilo
    b) Kompany + Monreal
    c) Kolasinac + Davies

    1. BellyKlopp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. Gold Monster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

    3. GuillermoDickero
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      C for me

    4. Sputnikboy
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      ok picked one...is this a magic trick? When will you guess what i've picked?

  8. Smoky Johnson
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Yoshida or Stephens, and why?

    1. Dragon Arcana
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'm worried one of them isn't nailed with the new guy able to play CB. Don't know which one though

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        What new guy?

      2. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Bednarek? Nah, Yostephens duo has to start.

    2. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Stephens is a BAPS magnet

      1. King of the north
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        I am currently on Stephens

    3. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Surely we can a few Soton fans on here to try clear this up!! 🙂 (I have the same question)

    4. Gold Monster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Stephens is a shoe in for me

  9. Rhodes your boat
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    If anyone's got time I've got a league open to anyone if they want to join

    Code is 1229069-640881

  10. Stimps
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Best 4.5 mids excluding Carroll & RLC?

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Romeu

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Lewis Cook maybe at Bournemouth? Chalobah at Watford.

    3. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I hope Chalobah plays

    4. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      In terms of nailedness: Romeu, in terms of potential to do well: Lewis Cook, very talented

      1. The Wise Owl
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Isn't Carroll more nailed?

    5. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Romeu and Chalobah

  11. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Someone sell Kolasinac to me. Is he the best 6m defender option?

    1. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Kompany decent too

    2. Silva’s Left Nut
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'd try and convince you if I thought he'd start. But it's a risk with Bellerin and Ox competing for the same 2 spots

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        He's naturally left footed, isn't he, so I think that LWB spot is his to lose. Perhaps Ox and Bellerin are competing mainly for RWB.

        Hey, I'm doing the selling here!

    3. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Vincent! Think city will do well at the back this year

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Oooh, I did have him at the end of last season for his goals. I think I'd like someone in the game tomorrow lol, plus 6m seems good value for a wingback.

        Kompany unlikely to get bonus with all those attacking assets, too.

  12. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    which 4.5 DEF:

    A. Suttner
    B. Hegazi
    C. Lascelles
    D. other

    ??

  13. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Think I'm happy with this....is it good to go?

    Foster Elliot
    Danilo Bertrand Daniels Sutter long
    Kdb Sarah zaha fraser Carroll
    Kane lukaku gabbi

    Thanks

    1. gilean
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      We have almost the same team. Posted mine below. Don't feel that confident though XP. How confident are you?

  14. gilean
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Good to go?
    Foster - Elliott
    Davies - Cedric - Daniels - Mee - Long
    KdB - Salah - Zaha - Ritchie - Carroll
    Kane - Lukaku - Gabbiadini

  15. SADIO SANÉ
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Everyone in agreement that Jesus should be above KDB on the captain poll?

    1. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      No

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      No not everyone

    3. SADIO SANÉ
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      *most people in agreement that Jesus should be above KDB on the captain poll?

      If not, please explain...

  16. The Royal Robin
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Dawson or Dann?

    1. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Daws

  17. Silva’s Left Nut
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What happened with Danny Rose?

    1. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      He had a sook and bad mouthed the club.

      Don't expect him to see him in a Spurs shirt ever again. Davies is more than capable

    2. BAFX
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      something about the north. prob catching up with GoT

  18. Unimaginative
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    DONE
    Elliot
    Ake Dann Cedric
    KDB Mane Salah Carroll
    Kun Kaku Frimino

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Er, triple Liverpool attack? Maybe Mané to Alli or Eriksen? (Although, I have Mané myself)

  19. RD
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Is coutinho mahrez going to start ganeweek 1??

    1. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah.

      But he will start for Barcelona

  20. A Team Of James McCleans
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    So is TAA nailed for gameweek 1 and 2?

    1. KOLASINA(C)
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Seems so

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Just GW1 until Clyne is back, unless there's report of Clyne being out for longer?

  21. thorvaldsson
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on this team?

    Foster Elliot
    Bertrand Ake Zanka Lejeune Long
    KDB Eriksen Zaha Shaqiri Matic
    Lukaku Lacazette Firmino

  22. :
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    5m fourth mid required (already got Carroll as the 5th). Is Matic an option (eight assists, a goal and 15 cleanies last year) or is he a waste of a Man.U space? Currently got Atsu.

    1. Silva’s Left Nut
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      With players like that to just have to go with your gut and be ready to jump on the bandwagon train when it arrives at the station

  23. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    C. Daniels nailed on to start GW1?
    I've heard he didn't play at all in pre-season - correct?

    1. Bald Eagle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      He played, I wouldn't worry.

  24. Bald Eagle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any news on Abraham from Clement today?

  25. The Royal Robin
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    GTG?

    DDG
    Stephens Dawson Kola
    Zaha KDB Willian Ritchie
    Lukaku Gabbi Kane

    (Elliot Carroll Suttner Mee)

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yes 🙂

    2. thorvaldsson
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Don't see why not. I like a Bournemoth defender instead of Dawson that's my only qualm.

  26. BellyKlopp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    is everyone avoiding willian then? Thought he'd be a good option whilst hazard is out?

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Am tempted, but Chelsea don't seem to be doing goals with Hazard and Costa missing.

  27. Kizza_10
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A. Monreal & Cedric

    Or

    B. Luiz & Mee

    (Already have De Gea & Trippier)

  28. GuillermoDickero
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A, B, or C gents....

    A) DDG, Yoshi (have Stephens), Suttner
    B) Foster, Kompany / Kola, Suttner
    C) Forster, Kompany / Kola, Long (recognise he won't play)

  29. Jiminylive
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    With Fosu-Mensah now on loan to Crystal Palace, do you think he's going to be a regular starter and a good 4.5 option?

    1. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Eh

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      No

  30. Garfield1001
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on this lot:

    Foster Elliott
    Yoshida Daniels Danilo Mee Long
    KDB Salah Zaha Ritchie Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Gabbiadini

    Opinions appreciated

    1. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Bottomed

    2. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Decent that.