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Team of the Season – Mohamed Salah

There are no prizes for guessing who the highest-polling midfielder was in our end-of-season vote.

And following last night’s injury in the Champions League final, it is perhaps a fitting time to dedicate our next team of the season article to Mohamed Salah.

The Egyptian’s fitness and availability for the World Cup is now shrouded in doubt. However, regardless of his participation in the tournament, Salah’s achievements in his debut Premier League campaign deserve another tribute.

He ended 2017/18 as the Golden Boot winner with 32 goals and broke Luis Suarez’s all-time Fantasy Premier League record, finishing on a total of 303 points. Salah also supplied 12 assists, the most by a Liverpool player this season.

Incredibly, the Egyptian delivered attacking returns in 75% of his 36 appearances, failing to record a goal or assist in only nine of those fixtures.

Salah’s average of 8.4 points per match was better than any player who made more than one league appearance, while he was the only Fantasy asset to feature ten or more times (11 in all) in FPL’s weekly Dream Team.

Starting the season at £9.0m, the same price as Philippe Coutinho and £0.5m cheaper than Sadio Mane, Salah kicked off his Liverpool career with a goal and assist in the Reds’ 3-3 draw at Watford.

Having surprisingly been benched for Liverpool’s subsequent league fixture against Crystal Palace, Salah then matched his opening day 11-point return in the Gameweek 3 win over Arsenal.

By that point, Fantasy managers were already starting to take notice.

Salah began the season with an ownership of 22.5%, featuring in 874,608 FPL teams from the off. His ownership – and price – rose immediately the following Gameweek, never again to dip below the one million mark.

Seven goals in four fixtures between Gameweeks 11 and 14 saw Salah’s price rise from £9.2m to £9.7m, with the former Roma winger breaking the £10.0m barrier ahead of Liverpool’s Gameweek 18 encounter against Bournemouth.

Salah’s attacking returns continued unabated throughout the season. The one-time Chelsea midfielder never failed to go more than two league games without recording a goal or assist, while a four-month run of scoring in every Liverpool home game between Boxing Day and late-April accounted for 104 points of his total score.

That sequence, of course, included four goals and an assist in Liverpool’s 5-1 win over Watford in Gameweek 31.

Salah’s 29 points, arriving in a blank Gameweek in which 88.8% of the top 10,000 FPL managers captained him, was the highest single Gameweek score by any Fantasy player this season.

Salah’s price peaked at £10.7m following this landmark return, finishing at £10.6m in Gameweek 38: a season-spanning increase of £1.6m was, unsurprisingly, the highest rise among all FPL players.

Come the end of the campaign, Salah was the most-owned player in FPL, sitting in 56.7% of squads. Transferred in 4,223,518 times across the season, only Harry Kane and Roberto Firmino earned more buyers over the 38 Gameweeks, though these two players also suffered a higher number of sales.

With many Fantasy managers having a sizeable amount of money tied up in Salah’s escalating value, the Egyptian was sold on only 2,661,455 occasions – almost half the number of sales that Kane experienced.

The list of impressive statistics rolls on.

Salah’s average of 91.3 minutes per goal was better than all other midfielders who made more than one appearance this season: Raheem Sterling’s next-best rate of a goal every 144 minutes provides some context as to the Egyptian’s incredible output.

Totals of 144 goal attempts, 113 shots inside the box, 66 shots on target and 43 big chances were also unsurpassed among FPL midfielders.

Salah was presented with a chance every 20.3 minutes, the lowest mean among midfielders who played more than 1,000 minutes of Premier League football in 2017/18, and had more penalty box touches than all other players in his classification.

No Liverpool midfielder made more successful dribbles (79), completed more key passes (62) or created more big chances (12) than Salah this season.

Despite all this, the FPL Bonus Points System (BPS) wasn’t particularly kind to Salah, however.

Only Watford’s Richarlison and Nordin Amrabat had inferior averages than Salah’s 17.6 minutes per Baseline BPS among midfielders, with Richarlison the only player in Salah’s classification to fire more shots off target.

Salah missed more big chances (23) than any other midfielder, while Wilfried Zaha, Dele Alli and Riyad Mahrez were the only three midfielders to be dispossessed on more occasions than Salah (143).

All these factors combined meant that, in spite of an outstanding debut year on Merseyside, the Liverpool winger earned bonus points in only 11 of the 24 matches he scored in.

The Prospects

First off, the bad news. A substantial price rise is inevitable next term, which could see Salah valued anywhere between £12.0m and £14.0m.

Debate also rages as to whether the Egyptian could be reclassified as a forward in 2018/19, mirroring Firmino’s transition from a midfielder at the start of this season.

Such a scenario – while not expected – would certainly change how we reassess our frontlines next season. It would impact heavily on Firmino; the Brazilian was the second most bought player (4.6m) in FPL after being reclassified as a forward in 2017/18.

Following his injury against Real Madrid, Salah could either be coming into the new campaign off the back of a World Cup campaign or perhaps even surgery. Either outcome could see his pre-season disrupted.

If Salah is available for the summer tournament – and the player himself is confident that this will be the case – a quick exit at the group stages for Hector Cuper’s men would be beneficial for Salah’s chances of being fit and firing for the start of next season.

Should injury keep him out, we would instead have to monitor his recovery and his pre-season involvement.

Having missed only two league fixtures in the whole of 2017/18, and starting 34 of those matches, Salah’s importance to Liverpool’s cause was obvious.

Similar to Harry Kane for Spurs, it would seem likely that only injury will keep him out of his manager’s line-ups. That pair could once again be crucial to our seasons and should continue to contest the armband on a regular basis.

Klopp’s summer spending spree looks all the more encouraging for Salah and Liverpool’s prospects next season. The Merseysiders have already acquired central midfielder Naby Keita’s arriving from RB Leipzig and have also been heavily linked to Lyon’s versatile playmaker Nabil Fekir.

Ultimately, if Salah can get near this season’s heroics, he’ll remain a must-have in many managers’ eyes regardless of the outlay.

The PFA Player of the Year’s total of 32 goals was the most any player has managed in a 38-match Premier League season. He also holds the record for scoring in the most fixtures during a Premier League season (24) and for the most teams scored against in a single campaign (17, a joint-high with Ian Wright and Robin van Persie).

That consistency, allied with 15 sets of double-digit hauls, made Salah one of the most secure captain picks in memory and edges him towards a “near essential” status in any Fantasy game.

242 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Syd.
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 21 days ago

    Wishing you a speedy recovery Mo

    1. Nascimento
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Lol, forgot all about Pennant. He's one to talk though really, his level was realistically League 1 - 2.

    2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Well Pennant's a bit of a piece isn't he

  2. The Cherry Picker
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 21 days ago

    Hoping to see a someone’s name on this site is
    LOLrus Karius.

    Really excited to start looking at World Cup fantasy teams!

  3. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 21 days ago

    Anyone willing to take part in some football quizzes if I start hosting them as in the yesteryears? Thinking of hosting a new round of quizzes in around 10 days time, but that of course depends if enough people are interested.

    1. Syd.
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Would love to but life might get in the way 🙂

      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Understandably. 🙂

        1. Syd.
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          I have participated previously and enjoyed them but I tend to fail with flying colours

          1. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            I've got to make them tough so that it's not a fastest Google fist contest hahaha 🙂

            1. Syd.
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              I would never resort to google as the only one you are cheating is yourself.

              You either know the answer or you don’t

      2. Fantasy Gold
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        I admire your dedication TFF

        1. BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Hahaha. Think this place needs a bit of spice, way too slow these days!

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Indeed it does my friend.

            The best of luck to you.

            1. BigManBakar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Cheers man. 🙂

    2. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      I know I mentioned it earlier but I probably won’t take part. I just like reading other people’s answers. Similar to what this site does for 9 months

      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        So you're more of a lurker than a participant. No problem 🙂

    3. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Doesn't sound as if enough people are interested. Next time, I guess!

  4. Fantasy Gold
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 21 days ago

    Any chance McDonalds could release the fantasy WC game tomorrow morning to kill my bank holiday boredom?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      no

      1. Fantasy Gold
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        😆

        Brutal

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Are there more bank robberies on bank holidays than on other days in the UK?

      1. Fantasy Gold
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Yep. Statistically proven.

    3. Kun Tozser
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Do the Telegraph one

  5. diesel001
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 21 days ago

    WC Top Goalscorer:

    Look at the topscorer odds and their overall records:

    Messi (9/1) - 61 goals in 123 appearances (0.50 goals a game)
    Neymar (10/1) - 53 in 83 (0.64)
    Griezmann (12/1) - 19 in 51 (0.37)
    Ronaldo (14/1) - 81 in 149 (0.54)
    Gabriel Jesus (16/1) - 9 in 15 (0.60)
    Kane (16/1) - 12 in 23 (0.50)
    Werner (16/1) - 7 in 12 (0.58)
    Lukaku (18/1) - 33 in 66 (0.50)
    Costa (25/1) - 7 in 18 (0.39)
    Cavani (25/1) - 42 in 100 (0.42)
    Suarez (25/1) - 50 in 97 (0.51)
    Lewandowski (33/1) - 52 in 93 (0.56)
    Giroud (40/1) - 30 in 71 (0.43)

    ----------------------------------------------
    You generally need to play at least 5 games and score 6 goals to get the Golden Boot. Therefore the process:

    1) Who do you think will make it to the QFs at least and play every game?
    2) Once you have identified yor quarter finalists - who do you think has the fixtures to dominate (think of Klose in WC 2002 vs Saudi Arabia and WC 2006 vs Costa Rica and Ecuador)?
    3) Once you have identified your favoured teams - who has the goalscoring record and goal involvement to snatch enough goals for their side?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Nice work cheers

    2. Karan14
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Quite fancy Neymar or Jesus.

    3. Bad Kompany
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Cheers for this. Neymar looks real good. Same with Suarez and Werner or even Muller

    4. Kun Tozser
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Griezmann, Suarez both good shouts given their groups

      Timo interesting for full tournament

      1. diesel001
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Will likely go with Werner, Lukaku and Neymar (all e/w) myself.

    5. Yozzer
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Tenner on Gru for me. Instinct bet

  6. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 21 days ago

    Lots of hate being directed towards Ramos for no reason some people would want to cop on to them selves.

    Ramos went in on a 50/50 won the ball and Salah got in a tangle and fell awkwardly and got injured.The ref had a perfect view of the incident and seen noting a miss.

    The fact that Salah got injured so easily suggests to me that he might not have been in peak condition going into the game.

    Some of the abuse being directed towards Ramos is totally ridiculous with calls for “revenge ” like what do people mean by that these daft idiots should be held to account.

    **** happens get over it.

    1. Syd.
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Couldn’t agree more

      Ramos plays the game on the edge like so many others but the Salah injury was just one of those things. They could tangle another 1000 times and that injury wouldn’t happen.

    2. Bad Kompany
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      He knew what he was doing. Not sure if he meant to hurt him that bad but he locked arms with him and brought him down. He meant to make a at least shake him up. He also took a cheap shot with an elbow st Kaius right before the first goal

    3. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Say what you want about the Salah incident, the fact that he (seemingly deliberately, although you can never tell with these things) elbowed Karius in the face and Karius then went on to have the worst performance of his life is damning to me.
      People should remember that that performance from Karius was uncharacteristic after a reasonably solid season.

      1. Syd.
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        But is this not a classic Liverpool trait that they need somebody to blame. You can’t blame anyone but Karius for those 2 howlers

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Sure, but if he was slightly concussed (possible) or just suddenly scared that a player in the opposition who just injured his teammate took what must have felt like a real swipe at him, he might not be operating on his usual level.

          And sure, you can say that Karius needs to man up/ it's part of the game but in my opinion it shouldn't be. Blame lies with Karius, but disgusting tactics like the ones Ramos employed shouldn't be a part of football.

          1. Ógie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            If he was slightly concussed which i do not think for a second that he was he should have singled to the bench that he had a problem instead of being a liability to his team.

            This kid just did not have the bottle to do the job plain and simple.

            1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              It's not that easy to tell if you're concussed. That's why they have tests for that sort of thing

            2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              And even if he felt that he was out of sorts, it's quite possible that he felt like he would be an even greater liability if he asksd for a sub.
              How many players in the game would willingly signal for a sub after knowing that what they need to do is step up and shake themselves out of it, let alone goalkeepers? If he wasn't concussed (which i concede is reasonably likely) you can't fault him for trying to better himself in game than signalling for a sub. Sure, you can fault him for the mare that followed but the point is that it's Ramos that physically abused him in the first place which (from my viewpoint) is what got him all messed up

        2. WesMantooth
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Shouldn't you rather say that it's a classic trait amongst supporters in general? Or is it just LFC-supporters who look for solace in blaiming other circumstances than their own perfomances?

      2. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        It is a contact sport.If you cant stand up to the odd knock you are in the wrong business.

        Ramos obliviously smelt weakness from Karius and it did not take much for him to rattle him which is all part of the game.

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Lol the odd knock and assault are two entirely different things though.

          Ramos should have seen red.

          Funny how the referees in the CL never seem to see any game-changing things like this that go in Real’s favour every single time

    4. MTPockets
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Haven't read anyone here referring to "revenge" except you; just an appraisal of an elbow to Karius' head and debateable intent with Salah.

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          I think he may be referring to the keyboard warriors over on twitter in fairness to him

      • diesel001
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Still feel it is questionable with Ramos. To me Ramos is a cheat. The fact that he gave Karius a smack about two minutes before the first goal shows what type of character he is.

        1. Syd.
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Nobody will disagree with you on Ramos being a complete dirtbag but people claiming he is some kind of MMA genius and is able to inflict a game ending injury on another player is absurd

        2. Fantasy Gold
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Ramos is a dirty scumbag.

          If it was any other player that got in a tangle with Salah then we don’t think much would’ve been made of it.

          His reputation as a dirty, sly player precedes him. And rightly so.

          100% intentional and deserves every bit of vitriol being spewed in his direction imho

      • Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Ramos is a cynical cheat - end of.
        Ok, he's actually a good footballer and if you are a Real Madrid fan he'd undoubtedly be a hero but don't make him out to be some innocent.
        What I detest about him and the likes of Pepe before him is his constant diving, holding his eye or whatever to get an opponent sent off or booked and yet the guy is a cowardly anti - footballer.
        He should be seen as a great but instead we're discussing his underhand cheating tactics.

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Exactly this Gnu.

          The wee fella can dish it out but acts like a big girls blouse when he gets a few nasty challenges back.

          Coward does sum up his character perfectly. Pepe was indeed exactly the same.

        2. Syd.
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Nobody will disagree with this

        3. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          We all know what he is like GNU but if you were picking a team to win a game and your life depended on it he would be the first name on your team sheet.

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Really???

          2. diesel001
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Nope. Ronaldo and Messi definitely ahead of him.

          3. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Do you know something, he wouldn't even be anywhere near my squad.
            It's not about winning, it's about winning in the right way, having a belief and morals.
            The same way I can never respect Jose.
            So no, He's not in my team.

            1. Fantasy Gold
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Bang on mate.

            2. WesMantooth
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Would he make your FPL-team if he made the move to England?

              1. Fantasy Gold
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                He’d be 6.5 - 7m, a yellow/red card magnet and would give you a heart attack every game.

                He’s no Alonso 😉

                1. Syd.
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  Think he has been sent off 35 times in his career

                2. WesMantooth
                  • 10 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  Hes averaged a goal/assist every 5th game and would prob be playing for a 15+cs side. Im quite sure hed be worth it @ 7.0.

                  He's pretty similar to Alonso, as he is also a defender who could actually break the 200pt mark.

              2. Gnu
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Nope, I'd feel dirty and need to shower every time I looked at my team 😆

                1. WesMantooth
                  • 10 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  Love it!

                  You'd actually be willing to sacrifice OR to get a good season "the right way"

                  1. Gnu
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 21 days ago

                    You'll find there's a few who refuse to have certain players whether it was Terry, Tevez even Vardy.
                    Think Doosra refused to get Suarez for that reason.

                    1. WesMantooth
                      • 10 Years
                      3 years, 21 days ago

                      I get the premise, just think it's an unnessecary sacrifice if you "know" that your sacrificing OR by taking some sort of moral high ground.

            3. Leaf
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Sadly that win matches theses days
              Time wasting, diving , play acting , hassleing the ref
              United perfected it under Fergie , Jose did it at Chelsea

              Sides like Liverpool & Arsenal miss out

      • Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        I thought the last twist or turn when falling with Salah’s arm trapped was a definite intentional slam into the floor
        It goes on though , Pool defenders would rough up Ronaldo given half a chance

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Amazed that Liverpool players didn’t give it back to them.

          Mané was the only one with a bit of fire in his belly who clattered Ramos.

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Ramos smiling after the incident just highlighted his intentions.

            Real Madrid winning year after year just feels false to me. It’s a real shame there isn’t a level playing field.

            1. Leaf
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              They won the last 3 as the best team in the competition

              1. Leaf
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                (Apart from Arsenal the previous years)

              2. Fantasy Gold
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                So the records say.

                You can’t deny they’ve had some ridiculous luck and decisions go their way to make that happen.

                1. Leaf
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  True

            2. Lets Talk About 19 Baby
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Yep as Salah was walking off the pitch in tears. Scum bag Ramos was laughing and smirking along with one of the corrupt officials. It was obvious he was so chuffed about what he had done.

      • Nascimento
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        I do agree with some of your points but can't really get on board with 'Lots of hate being directed towards Ramos for no reason' - The fact that he's pulled the wool over some people's eyes shows how clever a player he is and how clever a move it was but he knew what he was doing.

        He also did what he did and therefore deserves what he gets in response which, realistically, is likely to amount to nothing more than a load of written abuse on the internet, most of which he'll never see.

      • Lets Talk About 19 Baby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Ramos had him in arm lock pulling Mo away from the ball. Held onto him until he fell to the floor, pulled his own arm away then dropped all 82 kg on Salah’s arm. You say “The fact that Salah got injured so easily suggests to me that he might not have been in peak condition”. What are you on about ? He nearly had two weeks rest. Look at how many games hes missed over past seasons, hardly missed a game. What a surprise alot of bored City Utd Chelski & Blue Noses around this place.

        1. WesMantooth
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          He was pointing to the fact that players who are not at the peak of their condition are more likely to pick up injuries, which is true.

          I do find it very little relatable to this very special incident as most players, regardless of condition, would have suffered the exact same outcome in this particular situation.

        2. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Who knows he might have being carrying some kind of knock coming into the game.

          When i seen it first although sore looking i did not think it was a bad enough tangle to cause an injury.

          1. WesMantooth
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            The tangle itself would have been enough to cause most players to suffer injury, with the way he's "forced" to land on his shoulder + receiving the weight og Ramos. To large of an impact on whats probabley one of the least stable joints of the body.

            Dont think any "knock" contributed thos this incident unfolding like it did. The only contributing factors as I see it, is Ramos making an awful challenge, and chance making it play out in the worst kind of way.

      • Yozzer
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Agree. Ramos is class. There are players in the country as bad as him that don't get slated. To say he tried to dislocate Salah's arm is moronic. He's not Spain's equivalent to the SAS or some Martial arts expert christ.

        Saying that I couldn't give a damn if salah is out the world cup...why would I ? So I'm not directly effected. I get pool fans and Egypt fans being annoyed but saying it was intentional...Really???

      • Ginkapo FPL
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Wow.

        No. Ramos didnt try and dislocate Salahs arm. Just as John Terry didnt try to injure Chicarito when he kneed him in the back. The question however is, is it acceptable to be roughing up opponents to give yourself an edge?

        My understanding was no it is not. Ramos looks to have intentionally locked Salahs arm and hit Karius. Neither action was meant to injure, but both appear to have been meant to intimidate. If you think thats ok then please keep digging this hole.

        1. Tony Hibbert
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Imagine football being a contact sport shock horror someone might break a nail or run home scared to there mummy.

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Some of the things you defend I dont understand. A player could give the ref a right hook and I am pretty sure you would trot out the "its a contact sport" line.

            I play footy every week and one of the guys will bodycheck you off the ball. To me thats fine. Elbowing someone in the face for no reason? Not ok.

            1. Tony Hibbert
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              When did I say anything about elbowing anyone in the face or punching the ref?

              You are just being stupid now. But you were just being stupid in the first place.

              Was Ramos even blown for a foul? Studio full of ex pros watching the game none thought anything negative about Ramos's play. Ferdinand thought it was great defending. I agree. Ramos is the beat defender in world football and has been at the top of the tree for a long time now.

              I'll value my own opinion and the opinion of ex-pros.

              You think a body check is ok? If Ramos body checked Salah and injured him you'd be complaining. But a bodycheck is ok in your opinion? Lol. Probably best giving up now rather than spouting anymore tripe.

            2. Mark
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              I'm torn on it. The elbow on Karius was a clear red card if seen and does Ramos no favours.

              But for the incident in question, Ramos has tangled with Salah and has locked his arm to pull him down - that's not a sending off offence in itself and nobody can really be certain on an intent to injure.

              Without the Karius incident and perhaps Ramos' reputation, I don't think much would have been made of the challenge on its own but I can also see why there's been a reaction and suspicion.

              Emotion is still raw, as is the bitter disappointment for some - including me, and I'm not a Liverpool fan by any means. But let's calm it and leave it there.

              1. Yozzer
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Back in the day the Salah thing would have been a non event. It's sad football is like this now.

                1. Tony Hibbert
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  I'd love to know what Ramos is supposed to do there in the Salah challenge for all those that have taken exception.

                  Go in half hearted and risk him winning the ball?

                  Anyone that doesn't really understand what Ramos was doing doesn't really understand defending or football. Also they should probably wear fanny pads inside their boxer shorts.

                  1. Yozzer
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 21 days ago

                    Couldn't agree more. Maybe folk just prefer non contact altogether.

                    Anyway whilst every one is villainising him for good defending he's probably at home shining his medal . I doubt he cares too much. I'll leave it there

                  2. Foozeball
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 21 days ago

                    There's no need to twist your arm around someone else's arm when trying to pull them down, and such an action is illegal in other sporting competitions (rugby, judo, etc.) because a player is very vulnerable to injury when one of their arms is trapped and they can't break their fall properly

                    Ramos could've easily just pulled Salah down by grabbing Salah's arm (with his hand) or jersey. Same effect of cynically stopping him with a much lower risk of inflicting injury

                    1. Tony Hibbert
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 21 days ago

                      Lol. Wise up.

                      1. Foozeball
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 21 days ago

                        Please explain why Ramos couldn't just tug on Salah's arm or jersey? Same effect of stopping the play to help your defense, but much lower chance of inflicting an injury

                        Or are you saying that you condone knowingly choosing an action that has a greater risk of injuring the opponent? That's not fair sport. That is just disgusting thuggery at the same level as flopping to get penalties or to get the opposition sent off. You are free to believe that is all okay, and we can just agree to disagree

                        1. Tony Hibbert
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          3 years, 21 days ago

                          I didn't say that I thought any of that stuff. That's all projection on your part.

                          I don't think Ramos went to deliberately injure Salah. He's a defender, it was a strong challenge. It wasn't actually even given as a foul? My memory doesn't recall but it wasn't actually a foul? It definitely wasn't a yellow card as Real didn't have any cards. Ramos won the ball in the challenge. He out muscled Salah.

                          You are suggesting he should have pulled his shirt. That's a foul, and a card. Ramos conceded neither. Why? Because he's the best defender in world football and he knows what's required to win a champions league.

                        2. Yozzer
                          • 3 Years
                          3 years, 21 days ago

                          Have you seen the pace they play at. He's hardly got 20 seconds to decide how he should stop one of the best players around . Had he tugged his shirt he would have got a yellow card for sure also. He made the right decision. The proof is in the pudding. It's just a shame Salah landed badly

                        3. Foozeball
                          • 4 Years
                          3 years, 21 days ago

                          The referee didn't call it for some reason, but dragging someone down by locking your arm around theirs is as much a foul as grabbing their arm or jersey. Not being called for a foul or receiving a card for it was just a happy accident.

                          Maybe he didn't think "I want to injure Salah", but the manner of the challenge is still dangerous and has a high risk of injury, hence why it's illegal in other contact sports. Taking that risk even if it might provide a small advantage imo isn't smart, but just plain dirty and unnecessary.

                          We'll just have to agree to disagree on this matter 🙂

      • Tony Hibbert
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Top defender, top defending.

        You don't tackle for the ball with your handbag over your shoulder.

        Liverpool no better than a Europa League team without Salah.

      • JohnnyMagrinho
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Love the anti-Liverpool rhetoric in this thread/on this website.

          Pretty pathetic, all things considered.

          Ramos has a reputation for being aggressive, emotional, erratic and ‘dirty.’

          He could’ve knocked Karius out. Clearly fouled Salah. He obviously didn’t set out to dislocate his shoulder or break his arm, but I’m looking at that ‘challenge’ and finding it hard to justify it. It wasn’t acceptable within the laws of the game - it just wasn’t - so I fail to see anyone’s point of view that Ramos is just a ‘physical player, so get over it.’

          Let’s face it, loads of people HATE seeing their rivals succeed and that’s fine, it comes with the territory, but for it to cloud other peoples’ judgment is another thing altogether.

          Crazy to think anyone can look at his performance and think ‘yeah, he’s just a really good defender - not dirty at all!’

          Far too much opinion on here and nowhere enough objectivity. And let’s even begin to say Liverpool would’ve won if Salah remained on the pitch or if Karius didn’t mess up so bad - no one knows that and judging by that performance, Real were always going to win.

          One last thing - Liverpool deserved to be in the final because they got there. Real deserved to win because they won. That’s how sport works - meritocracy. It doesn’t require your approval to be so. Of course there are caveats that can make any defeat/win hurt or taste somewhat sour, but you make your own luck and when things go against you it’s up to you as individuals and a team to be mentally strong enough to deal with it.

          I struggle to fathom how so many people can be so opinionated about things we can all see, again and again.

          1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Would be interesting to see how Liverpool fans would have reacted if the same events happened to Man U.

          2. Foozeball
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            It's not always about fan biases. Some people are just the type who genuinely condone anything for the sake of winning

          3. RoysCallerAnne
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Great post.

          4. Roosta
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            I love it when we don't understand something we just make up a answer. It's like religion all over again.

            How is it that Real were completely outplayed by Bayern yet still managed to win? Well, I don't know, so I guess it must have been their collective will to win that repelled all Bayerns shots from their goal. It's the only logical explanation! Either that or football is simply a low scoring game with high variance, where the best team is often on the losing side, but that doesn't sound as appealing. Lets go with the 'mentally strong' ideology as I don't really understand this variance you speak of.

            Why talk about teams being more deserving than others, making luck(how does one do that?), retroactively declaring that because something happened it must have been deserved(reminds me of Hoddle talking about disabled kids). Man City were denied 2 pens and a clear goal against Liverpool, is that because they didnt want it enough?

            Knockout football is great because its an exciting spectacle. It creates fun moments, and sells lots of tv rights. But if we over-analyse it things get a bit messy.

        • AfriKan OddLegZ
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Mo Salah or not, Madrid would have still carried the day.

          The better team won.

          Sergio Ramos is world class.

        • FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          Ramos is a seasoned pro. No one can deny that. He held Salah's arm and put his weight on it as he hit the deck. Anyone who doesn't think it was intentional is naive.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            His hand didn't hold his arm.

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Didn't need to. He had his arm curled around Salah's, holding it tight.

          2. AfriKan OddLegZ
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            So you mean Ramos held Salah’s right arm and brought him down so he can injure his left shoulder??

            I think someone watches too many cartoons.

            These tackles are common in football. Ramos refused to let go off the arm because Liverpool could have gone on to score. To make it seem as if the injury was the goal is rather naive!

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Ramos has been around the block several times. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing.

              1. AfriKan OddLegZ
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                And you are sure of this because he’s been doing in previous seasons or what?

        • Arceus
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          You've been living in a cave.

          Everyone except you knows that Ramos is a cheat and plays dirty with his past clearly showed what kind of a player he is.

          Get over that.

          1. AfriKan OddLegZ
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            A cave with satellite tv. At least get your facts right.

            Everyone is over it except some few sour ones. Did you think you could win the UCL with this team? Dream on. They could have a replay and the results would change.

            1. AfriKan OddLegZ
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              * wouldn’t

      • Jacky boy
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Saaalaaaaaaaaah

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          🙁

      • diesel001
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Do quite fancy an e/w punt on Belgium (12/1) for the WC. But Martinez is such an average manager. Do the players really respect him?

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          If you put five pounds on at odds of 12/1 it means that you will lose five pounds.

          Ave a bang on that.

      • Syd.
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 21 days ago

        Since we are all hot and bothered about cynical cheaters who would you say is the most cynical cheater in the game

        A) Luis Suarez
        B) Sergio Ramos

        1. Leaf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          C)Stefan Henchoz for holy Liverpool saving on line v Arsenal with his hand in fa cup final

          1. Syd.
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Fans tend to forget the ones which go their way and remember the ones that don’t

            1. JohnnyMagrinho
                3 years, 21 days ago

                And also, maybe, some things happened WAY before some people’s time.

                Just because you might have been around and watching football in 00-01 and remember everything controversial that went on like it was yesterday doesn’t mean everyone else does.

                Also, sometimes some players will react extraordinarily in extraordinary circumstances in a manner you’d say is out of character. But obviously one incident is just as bad as a litany of offences when judging someone’s character?

                Right. Didn’t know so many people on here were so reactionary.

          2. WesMantooth
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Ramos. Suarez is more feelings than cynical.

            who the nasties player is, might spark a more conflicted debate.

          3. ★Kuntheman★
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Suarez has always been held accountable for his nastiness. Penalty awarded and a red card, ban for biting. Yes, Ghana didn’t score, but Suarez himself was held accountable. (I do not condone what he did, btw)

            Ramos has gotten away with s**t year after year, recently the Salah and Cuadrado incidents. That makes him the bigger cheater in my opinion.

          4. diesel001
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Busquets has to be in there IMO.

          5. Ógie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            The dark arts are part of the game and lots of serial winners have in them in their toolbox.

            1. Fantasy Gold
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              I guess that makes it OK then.

              1. Syd.
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                It doesn’t make it right but a lot of fans would gladly turn a blind eye if a player in their team dives to win a penalty

          6. Fantastisk
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Liverpool fans will say Ramos, everyone else will say Suarez.

            1. Nascimento
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Did your wife cheat on you with a Liverpool fan or something? Your posts over the past couple of days have been worryingly bitter.

              Anyway I'm a Utd fan and going Ramos.

              1. Syd.
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Show me one post which is bitter against Liverpool

                Which United do you support?

                1. Nascimento
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  You can read his post history yourself.

                  1. Syd.
                    • 12 Years
                    3 years, 21 days ago

                    Sorry thought it was directed at me

                    1. Nascimento
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 21 days ago

                      No worries

                2. TorresMagic™
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  Following the convo shows it's for Fantastisk.

                  1. Nascimento
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 21 days ago

                    Indeed.

              2. Fantastisk
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Yeah m8

            2. WesMantooth
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              This is the case for me, but dont think its about allegiances the way you imply. Question was "most cynical cheater". Cynical implying knowing very well what your doing and being deliberate. That's why I rate Ramos way over Suarez, and probably would with a lot more players as well.

              Suarez is all feelings and gets caught up in the moment and makes really poor judgements. He almost allways gets punished for it, and rarely gets away with any of his antics. Ramos is more clever. Even though hi record of collecting cards is impressive, one has to admit that he looks more "in controll" in his shady parts of the game, actually thinking and assessing and doing the things he does to help his team get some sort of leverage? Tha why he's a more "cynical cheater" than Suarez.

          7. Yozzer
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Ashley Young
            Ibrah

            2 cheating scumbags have to be up there

          8. Foozeball
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            C) World cup referees 😆

          9. AfriKan OddLegZ
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Which supporters are sour losers??

            A. Liverpool fc
            B. Grasshopper fc

        2. Scotty B
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 21 days ago

          World cup winner/Golden boot award this summer?

          1. WesMantooth
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Germany to win, Muller most goals @ 6 making him tied with Klose at the top for most goals in world cup

          2. Syd.
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Who do you think will win them?

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Spain/Messi

          3. Yozzer
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Germany/ Gru

            1. Fantasy Gold
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Brazil/Jesus

          4. Epic ⚽ 墅
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            England - Kane.

            It's coming home.

            1. Fantasy Gold
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              🙂

            2. A Kun & Mateta
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              This, have a feeling England will prosper on the back of PEPs good work.

          5. Tony Hibbert
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Germany / Neymar

          6. Meinhoff
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Serbia/Mitrović

          7. Numb
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Brazil / Neymar

          8. Reedy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Spain/Neymar

          9. JohnnyMagrinho
              3 years, 21 days ago

              France to win for me. Suarez could easily be top scorer looking at his group - could realistically get about 8 before the knockout stages.

            • The Overthinker
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Germany / Griezmann

            • Arctic monkeys
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Deance / Griezman

              1. Arctic monkeys
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                *France / Griezmann 😀

          10. caldracula
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Brazil/Jesus

          11. A Kun & Mateta
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Well done Sam Bennet winning the final Giro stage, hardly even a footnote on Irish sports news. Hope he rides the Tour.

            1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Yep a great win ... Giro has whet the appetite nicely for forthcoming TDF

              1. Red Dagger ✪
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                I always look forward to watching the TDF. I'm a bit numb when it comes to watching Frome. I'm just not sure how I feel about him.

                1. A Kun & Mateta
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  I feel sick over him to be honest, he ruined the Giro. Hope he doesn't ride the TDF.

                  1. Red Dagger ✪
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 21 days ago

                    That's actually sort of how I feel about him also.

              2. A Kun & Mateta
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Hope there's a strong lineup for the TDF, though not sure there will be.

              3. Polka Wakey O'Dot
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Been one of the best grand tours ever. Fantastic.

            2. Polka Wakey O'Dot
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Third game in a row I found myself in with a shout of winning the fantasy game...13 overall before today. The only chance I had was not to pick him and for for a not Viviani not Bennett pick....I went for Van Poppel who bombed...

              No regrets.

              Always nice to get so high up in fantasy games that you have to pick a diff....

              I've won one this year already.

              1. A Kun & Mateta
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Well done, prizes any good in fantasy cycling?

                1. Polka Wakey O'Dot
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  No prizes....just a great game on road cc run by the site. Really good.

            3. Polka Wakey O'Dot
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              I hope he does as well (surely will do). Some absolutely fantastic sprinters around at the moment and he's right in the mix with them. He'll have his work cut out for him for sure.

              1. A Kun & Mateta
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Love the talent and guts of the sprinters, GC guys can seem a bit meh in comparison.

                1. Polka Wakey O'Dot
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  I love them all. Some great new talent coming out right now...top riders...

                  Roglic, Bernal, Gaviria, Carapaz, Lopez etc.....it's all looking great...

            4. AfriKan OddLegZ
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              Another doping allegation loading...

          12. A Kun & Mateta
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Having a good laugh watching Klopp singing at the airport. Lovely fellow, though I feel he isn't sending quite the right signals to the players.

            1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              What was he singing?

                1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  😀

            2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Just seen it. What a hero

              1. A Kun & Mateta
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                He certainly has the right take on life, mind you 8m a year for winning nothing is a nice sweetener!

                1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  Bit harsh - kept the 4th place trophy out of Arsenal's grasp for the second year running 😉

            3. Team Cruel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              He isn't a 'win at all costs' manager. Six final defeats in a row now? Other managers would have been slaughtered if they were seen dancing and singing first thing in the morning after a defeat like that. Media darling Klopp however can do no wrong, in fact he's being lauded for celebrating a loss.

              1. Fantasy Gold
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Let’s be honest here.

                Who would you rather work for... Mourinho or Klopp?

                I’d love to work for him, he seems like a great guy (doesn’t seem like a guy who is different behind closed doors). Surely having him on your side is a great motivator and you’d want to do well for him.

                1. Red Dagger ✪
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  I'd run through a wall to work for Klopp. I'd run through a wall to quit working for JM.

                2. Team Cruel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  Professionally I would want to play for the one that's most desperate to win things. Professional football is a result business. At the end of your career you're judged by what you won.

                  On a hobby basis I would want to play for the one that wouldn't mind dancing and singing after we've been relegated from our Sunday league. Because hobby football is supposed to be for the craic.

              2. Nascimento
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                I think you may be a little biased from when you supported Man Utd. I'm a neutral in this case but Klopp is certainly no media darling. He gets credit for reaching a Champions League final, yes. Mourinho gets slated for spending insane levels of money and winning nothing of note - also true. But I don't think you can put that down to some sort of agenda.

                1. Nascimento
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  And when I say nothing of note I do of course mean this season.

          13. Polka Wakey O'Dot
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Not sure about that. He's a great man manager who will pick his lads up off the floor as quick as anybody in the game....even if that means singing at the airport ...

            1. Polka Wakey O'Dot
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Reply fail to feed feo...

            2. A Kun & Mateta
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Really like him, just feel he hasn't spent the money to fill the obvious gaps (keeper, holding mid, striker, general cover). I felt he should have held onto Coutinho to boot.

              1. Polka Wakey O'Dot
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                I think he's probably the sort of bloke who will hold his hand up to any mistakes...but I doubt he'll ever change from his "we'll score one more goal that you" mentality.

                Liverpool fans may have to learn to live with defensive averageness for a while to come.

              2. Fantasy Gold
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Hard to hold onto a player who clearly wants to leave.

                It’s no good for team morale holding onto players like that. It’s not like they didn’t get really good money for him either.

                1. Foozeball
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  I have no idea if the money obtained from the sale was necessary, but it did go to good use in acquiring Van Dijk. Probably should have spent some of that money to also acquire a new creative player to challenge Oxlade-Chamberlain in case he was not up to par or got injured

          14. Kane Toads
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            For those interested in Telegraph WC:

            My Telegraph WC league "From Russia with Lovren"

            League PIN 8143460 Passcode 1111

          15. Ragabolly
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Liverpool plays so poorly when Salah is not on the field despite having some quality players, imagine what’s it like for Egypt without Salah!
            Glad and hopeful that he will make it to the WC.

            1. Nascimento
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Liverpool do at least still have Mane who's very effective and a very clever player in Firmino. I'm not as familiar with Egypt's setup but I do imagine they'll perform much better with him in there.

              1. Ragabolly
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Much better is a massive understatement 😀

                1. G-Whizz
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  😆

          16. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Did you know that Frank Sinatra is buried with a bottle of Jack Daniels?

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Don't forget a pack of Camel cigarettes, a Zippo lighter, and a dollar’s worth of dimes.

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 21 days ago

                Is that true?

                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 21 days ago

                  As true as the Jack Daniels.

                  1. Red Dagger ✪
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 21 days ago

                    On December 8, 1963 Frankie Sinatra Jr., who was 19 at the time, was kidnapped by three men while staying at a hotel in Stateline, Nevada. The kidnappers demanded $240,000 and one important condition was that all communication should be conducted by payphone. Because during these conversations Frank Sinatra feared that he would run out of change, he always carried 10 dimes in his pocket throughout his life.

                    1. FPL Virgin
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      3 years, 21 days ago

                      😯 I had no idea about this. Simply incredible!

                      1. Red Dagger ✪
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 3 Years
                        3 years, 21 days ago

                        Amazing right? But true.

                        1. FPL Virgin
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 4 Years
                          3 years, 21 days ago

                          I'm genuinely flabbergasted. Did he belong to a wealthy family? Did they pay up?

                          1. Red Dagger ✪
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 3 Years
                            3 years, 21 days ago

                            It was Franks son they kidnapped. I believe Frank Sr. paid the money but had the FBI involved. One of the kidnappers let Franks Son go during the pay off I think and the FBI busted them. something like that.

          17. TorresMagic™
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Celtics leading Cavs in decider to make the final.

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Celtics 35-23

            2. Zilla
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Celtics vs GSW would be nice to see

              1. arndff_
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 20 days ago

                Nah lol

                GSW would take it 4-0. Celtics are awful on the road.
                And without Irving and Hayward, GSW would sweep them.

            3. G-Whizz
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              Put the Cavs in a double with GSW...

          18. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            There is a song by Radiohead called "The Klopptimist."

            It goes ..... "you can try the best you can, you can try the best you can, the best you can is good enough."

            1. Red Dagger ✪
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 21 days ago

              I'm assuming you mean this exceptionally good tune....?

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COUaNmm53VA

          19. TorresMagic™
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Cavs up by 3 at 3 quarter time.

          20. La Roja
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 21 days ago

            Cavs done it again

            I mean Lebron...

            1. arndff_
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              I’m not LBJ’s fan but the guy is on another level.

              However, if GSW make it to the Finals, he’ll lose there oncd again.

          21. TJ_777
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 20 days ago

            Probably already posted but the WC fantasy site is http://fantasy.pre.fifa.com/en/home

            Player prices seem wrong. I assume prices will be finalized after June 4th due to teams submitting their final 23 man squads

            1. Norman Conquest
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              it is still showing the confederations cup data from last year some more of it has updated since i last looked a few days ago you will win a kia car if you come first not bad lol

          22. G-Whizz
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 20 days ago

            BBC Sport
            ‏Verified account @BBCSport

            The battle for the remaining Premier League TV rights is on.

            It could be a game-changer.
            http://bit.ly/2ITCBzx
            https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1000986548685373441

            1. Syd.
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              The PL is struggling to sell them. The worse thing for the fans would be another broadcaster getting them as that would mean people having to pay 3 subscriptions to watch all games.

          23. Holmes
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 20 days ago

            Site loading slow or too many comments on same page or my internet is meh? 😮

            1. Foozeball
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              Methinks it's because there's a ton of comments on this page

          24. Syd.
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 20 days ago

            Just seen those Karius death threat tweets.

            Hopefully the authorities track these people down and jail them.

            1. Foozeball
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              Really pathetic of those people and there's no place in football for that

              People forget that in the end footballers are human too and never deserve death threats of any kind no matter how poorly they play in a game

            2. Ógie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              That is a disgrace,the poor lad must be going through enough without trying to deal with the likes of that.

              These idiots should be directing their anger towards the person who put an inexperienced young lad like him between the sticks on such a big stage.

          25. diesel001
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 20 days ago

            Name the international team playing in the WC you will support and your idea of their best side based on the WC squad announcements

            1. diesel001
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              England

              Pickford
              Stones Jones Maguire
              Walker Henderson Dier Rose
              Sterling Vardy Rashford

              1. Fantasy Gold
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 20 days ago

                No Kane? Interesting.

              2. Fantasy Gold
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 20 days ago

                Jones, Dier, Rose and Rashford have done nothing this season to suggest they deserve a starting place.

            2. Hooky
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 20 days ago

              Croatia

              Subasic
              Srna, Vida, Corluka, Vrsaljko
              Brozovic, Kovacic
              Perisic, Modric, Rakitic
              Mandzukic

              1. Fantasy Gold
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 20 days ago

                Hell of a team that ^

              2. Ask Yourself
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 20 days ago

                Vida over Lovren?

                1. Hooky
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 20 days ago

                  Just a personal preference. Lovren more likely to make a mistake imo.

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