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17 June 2018 692 comments
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The second of Sunday’s trilogy of World Cup matches is the Group F encounter between Germany and Mexico, which takes place at the Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow. Kick-off is at 4pm.

The match will be of much greater interest to Fantasy managers than the lunchtime meeting between Serbia and Costa Rica, with Germany players in particular widely owned in the McDonald’s FIFA World Cup game.

Die Mannschaft’s backline warrants special attention, with Joshua Kimmich (£6.5m) the most-bought German player: 26% of McDonald’s FIFA managers own the Bayern Munich full-back, who recorded an incredible nine assists in ten qualification appearances.

Manuel Neuer (£6.0m), who missed most of 2017/18 through injury, and Mats Hummels (£6.0m) are owned by 22% and 14% of Fantasy managers respectively, meanwhile.

Thomas Muller (£9.5m), who top-scored for Germany during qualifying and who scored five goals in both the 2010 and 2014 World Cups, is owned by 16% of Fantasy managers, perhaps a surprisingly low percentage given his tournament pedigree and midfielder classification.

No Mexico player is owned by more than 1% of those playing McDonald’s FIFA, which is not a huge shock given the tough nature of El Tri’s opening group match.

Juan Carlos Osorio’s side scored on more occasions and conceded fewer goals in qualification than Costa Rica and Panama, the other two CONCACAF nations who made it to Russia.

Goalscoring has been an issue in recent friendlies, though: Giovani dos Santos’ strike in the 1-0 win over Scotland was Mexico’s only goal in their last four internationals, which were all contested against European opposition.

No UEFA nation scored more goals in qualification than Germany (43), while only Spain and England let in fewer goals than Joachim Low’s side, who conceded four.

Set-pieces could be an area to watch today: Germany scored twice as many goals from direct corners (eight) as any other UEFA nation during qualifying. No European country had more goal attempts from set plays, either.

The 2014 World Cup winners haven’t been in such commanding form in 2018, however: the unconvincing 2-1 win over Saudi Arabia on 8 June was their first victory in four internationals contested this year.

 

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  1. Gerd Mueller’s thighs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Germans never win in Russia

    1. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      It isn't winter yet

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      It's been 76 years.,. they could..

  2. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Post

  3. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Kroos-bar

  4. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Been saying this forever, people really overrating Germany. They have not improved from losing Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Klose, etc. Low thrives on the success of Klinsmann’s system and now he’s going to be found out as a manager.

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Nah. Germany just slow starters here.

    2. Dragon Arcana
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Disagree, they still have a great squad.

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      At least they know how to win finals.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Never said that we’re any better.

    4. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      lol @ crediting Löws success to Klinsmann

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Why not? He did a stellar job with Germany in 06 and Bayern in 2008-2009.

        1. Brosstan
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Löw's Germany won the WC 8 years after Klinsmann resigned. Klinsmann was manager for just 2 years.

    5. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Germans have been successful long before Klinsmann and Loew.

      They produce great players and even better teams

    6. noquarternt
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Think Germany could easily be ahead here. Just need to stop relying on last gasp Boateng slides to defend and they’d look great.

  5. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Three or the last four WC winners have been knocked out at the group when attempted to defend their trophy. Is it happening again ?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I doubt it.

  6. Chorlton 76
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    loving this game.

  7. Brosstan
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    This ref is the best Ive seen in a long time. Lets the game flow, doesnt give free kicks when players fall for the slightest contact, gives yellow card at the first sign of time wasting. I wish every ref was like this.

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Ref earlier was brilliant too. A nice change 🙂

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah he’s been superb.

    3. noquarternt
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed

  8. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    It would not be the first time the Germans got beat in Moscow.

  9. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    UK commentators still going on about Sane. There are players other than those who play or have played in the PL.....

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Sane wasn't listening to instructions so got dropped.

      What's so hard for them to understand? 😆

  10. GreennRed
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Hon the GreennRed 😉

  11. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Germany Defence and Mids are really slow..Expect another Mexico goal soon

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Don't forget to post a link to this comment if Mexico score again.

  12. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Not even bothered about my Kimmich CS....COME ON MEXICO.,..they can do this..

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I got zero Germany players. Will I regret it?

    2. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      this exactly great game

  13. Patch
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Wtf I purchased Kimmich, where is my CS?!?!?!?!

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Casual

    2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Look at Germany's defensive record

  14. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Can see Germany going out in the group stage here.

    1. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Achtung!

    2. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Who know,there is always a few shocks in the group stages.

      1. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        *knows

  15. Pierce34
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Is Deulofail about? How did Mitrovic play, aside from the blank?

    1. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He blanked

    2. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Average. Missed two good opportunities. Was involved though.

    3. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Decent holdup play, missed at least one great chance.

    4. Pierce34
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks all - classic dilemma of whether to stick with him for next round or sell, given how short the tournament is.

      1. Duka
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        stick,he will score.

      2. CloudSky
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Id stick.

    5. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Just saw this. He looked fine. Good value, with some chances and near-chances. They were up against a good team tbh. His strike partner, SMS, looked at least as dangerous, but I'm happy with Mit 🙂

  16. CloudSky
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Just saw that Werner is indeed, playing.

  17. Alex_thekid
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Glad I captained Jesus and not Werner

  18. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Germany really missing Ozil.

    1. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      And Kimmich dressed as Lahm....

  19. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Kimmich M.I.A

    His flank is wide open.

    1. Positive vibes
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Really need Lukaku to score for us and have Trippier points. They have one James more than us too. Hoping Lewa and Granvist blank too.

  20. F4L
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Why does Vela keep on taking touches when he team mates could have 1 on 1s. Mexico could have killed it off

  21. noquarternt
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Fairly even game, Germany need a bit more luck and they could be ahead. But likewise they’re dramatically out of position too frequently which Mexico is exploiting and they could’ve had a few.

    Great game, more goals in it for sure.

  22. Hamstergod
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Up there with Portugal - Spain in terms of entertainment , really good match.

  23. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Once agin the best team is the one with a plan.

    I've watched England for damned near fifty years and they never ever have a plan. They need to learn the lesson.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      This feels like a turning point for our national team. We have a system, our youth teams are winning tournaments, & the players look happy.

      Very excited for our future.

    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I hope so GB.

      I'm not bothered how they play as long as they do it and do it well. Iceland, Mexico, Portugal, Spain etc all have a way of playing and do it well.

      All we have done for fifty years is put eleven men out and hope they win...no style whatsoever.

  24. Differential C (Mark)
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A few problems with Germany
    A)Germany's gameplan doesn't suit Werner
    B)Kimmich needs to track back better
    C)Kroos and Khedira partnership doesn't seem to work. Way too easy to bypass.
    D)Draxler to Reus, please.

  25. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone watching these games on Sony Ten 2 on Dish TV (India)?

    Who is the dude presenting pre-game, half-time and full time with Wes Brown and a couple others?

    He is dreadful....

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      There's 2 of them. Which one?

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        The English dude........mono-tone deadbeat....

        1. badgerboy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Narrowing it down 😀

          1. Jafooli
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            😀

  26. Norman Conquest
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    gabby logan is still hot

    1. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      We took very different things from that interview haha

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        he he

  27. Deulofail
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Southgate is likeable

    1. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah. Interesting to see if his approach to the tournament translates onto the pitch. Hope it works out for him.

  28. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    England can win this tournament.

    1. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      can't wait for tomorrow night

      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I can't

        Enlgand 1 Tunisa 1

        1. Norman Conquest
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          tunisia will be tough opponents i think england have enough to nick it

          1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            They be parking a bus. They are very organised and good tactically. If they can nearly stop Spain England need Harry and sterling on top form

    2. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Can you pleeeaase allow them to be underrated. Just this once! 😆

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Crap defence and central midfield. Going to gift sloppy goals against the big teams.

        1. Deulofail
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Absolute no-hopers 😀

    3. SW6
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Can't help but start to get my hopes up 🙄

    4. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Its the hope that'll kill you 🙂

    5. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed, probably joint favorites as things stand....

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Wtf. Who else in on England's level?

        1. Rainer
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Saudi Arabia.

        2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Panama ?

        3. Jafooli
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          True, Scotland didn't qualify, so yeah nobody.....

    6. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      😆

  29. 420king
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Had this gut feeling about Lozano...

    1. Norman Conquest
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      you have him in your team

      1. 420king
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yes! https://pasteboard.co/HqkuM2P.png

        No, not really..that is my B account I had to abandon due to not being able to turn off MC boost. 🙁

        1. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I do not think "B accounts" are against the rules King?

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            I've reported him just incase.

            1. 420king
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              😀

          2. 420king
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            It's not that's why I won't be playing it. Haven't joined any leagues etc.

            Not my fault if they made a buggy game, wasn't gonna waste my chip like that.

              1. 420king
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Are you kidding me? What would you have done in my case?

                1. Ógie
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I am sorry King i am not familiar with your case?

                  1. 420king
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Thought everyone knew. You couldn't turn off the boost once you activated it.

                    I only activated it to test if you could activate both boosts in the same week.

                    1. Ógie
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      I know it is a very glitchy game and it could be easy to make a mistake like that.

                      Best thing to do would be to delete the one you messed up in the interest of sportsmanship.

                      All is forgiven. 😉

                      1. 420king
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        The messed up one was 4 years old and I hope to use it again in 4 years.

                        I think deleting and remaking it would have been the best option but I didn't know you could do that.

                        Thanks 🙂

              2. 420king
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Fine, I'll forfeit my KIA 😀

        2. Norman Conquest
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          such a shame would have been a great shout

          1. 420king
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            yeah, specially with Korea next

  30. Differential C (Mark)
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Kimmich taking shots to row Z, I see.

    1. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Lulling the keep into a false sense of secrurity

      1. Deulofail
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        That's LULling