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With Wolverhampton Wanderers (a), Bournemouth (h), Cardiff City (a) and Huddersfield Town (h) next up for Burnley, the Clarets sit top of our Season Ticker for defence over the coming four Gameweeks.

All is not well at Turf Moor, however. A defence that performed so admirably and proved so popular among Fantasy bosses in 2017/18 that their goalkeeper and hitherto first-choice back four all rose to £5.0m in Fantasy Premier League this season have flattered to deceive.

Sean Dyche’s side have conceded as many goals after four league fixtures (nine) than they had after 12 matches of the previous campaign, offering little encouragement for those considering drafting in a Burnley defender for this quartet of upcoming encounters.

Stephen Ward and Matthew Lowton (£4.9m) were both dropped to the bench for the visit of Manchester United last weekend, with fatigue hardly a factor given that the full-back pair had both sat out the Thursday night encounter with Olympiakos.

Dyche’s comments after the match on Sunday acknowledged the repercussions of the Thursday/Sunday fixture turnaround but implied that Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) and Phil Bardsley‘s (£4.4m) inclusions at left-back and right-back respectively were merited on performance:

We’ve been trying to monitor the workload of the players, equally monitoring the ones who have laid down a little bit of a marker and done well.

Ben Mee (£5.0m) struggled against Romelu Lukaku, meanwhile, not getting close enough to the Belgian forward for either of his goals and perhaps being fortunate not to concede a penalty when lunging at the United striker in the second half.

Mee could soon find his place in jeopardy from Kevin Long (£4.3m) or Ben Gibson (£4.9m), the latter having missed the defeat to the Red Devils with a stomach problem.

With such doubt over personnel and a lack of confidence in the backline as a whole, Burnley’s defenders are not quite the attractive proposition they ought to be for this run of matches between Gameweeks 5 and 8.

The all-important goals conceded column aside, though, are Dyche’s side statistically performing any worse than they were in 2017/18? Members can read on for our assessment of the Clarets’ defence.

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  1. Eugeniekwh
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Hi guys laca + fraser vs d.silva + deeney. Which is better? Also have wilson and aguero.

    On wildcard btw. Appreciate all replies!

    1. MikeBravo
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Fraser and Deeney

      1. Emp
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Tough one I'll go laca plus Fraser just

    2. dylano21
      8 years, 1 month ago

      D. Silva + Deeney seems a good option when you already have Wilson. Can you free up some money for mitrovic maybe ?

  2. woodboy76
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Well Ive gone for it:

    Salah and Mhiki to

    Hazard and David Silva

    1. Lecky Legs FC
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Madness that

    2. MikeBravo
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Some of the top OR teams haven't got Salah...

      1. Rash
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Because he hasn't punished them... yet

      2. WesMantooth
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Then again, a lot of them do.

    3. Emp
      8 years, 1 month ago

      There so much group think on this site I think those are risky but decent moves that could easily pay off hardly madness

      1. Licious Lizard
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Give it a break with the group think / sheep move / casual thing.
        Opting to go with/without Salah can both following other peoples’ opinions.
        Hardly a maverick move to buy David Silva and Hazard as 2 of the most popular players being brought in on this site and hailed in all the articles.

        1. Emp
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Not sure how group think relates to sheep move plus casual thing or to least they not related to what I meant. Simply meant that talk of selling salah seems to be treated with disdain as irrational by the masses. But perhaps I am jumping to assumptions by seeing three people negate the move. I haven't been on that much recently I just assumed the majority would Condemn selling salah out of fear but apologies if I'm off the mark I might well have jumped to conclusions.

          1. Licious Lizard
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Fair enough - I’m just saying that there can be well thought out reasons for keeping/ditching Salah - not necessarily group think or out of fear of ownership.

            Maybe I was being too aggressive, but my impression of this site lately has been condemning every Salah holder as a sheep / fear of ownership 🙂

            Personally I think there are good arguments for both - and I think it’s a very interesting point in the season, seeing which “camp” will come out on top.

            1. Emp
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Oh I see so we both protesting the same kind of mentality but for the different options hahaha that's funny, I think that got lost in translation , :).Yes I agree I do think there are good rational arguments for and against indeed.

    4. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      good luck with this......

    5. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Decent moves, think Hazard/Dilva will outscore Salah/Mkhi over the next 4 weeks but I’d want Salah back in for gw9 onwards

    6. Gaffers
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I like it. I've gone No Salah all season while my rivals have clung on, and it's put me inside 9k OR and winning my leagues

    7. jtreble
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I call that brave. RMT's captaincy selections until Christmas, however, calls that crazy. Should be interesting.

  3. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 1 month ago

    After 4 games

    13 defs above 20 points
    12 mids above 20 points
    7 fwds above 20 points

    So, if the object of the game is to finish the season with as many points as possible, are you considering changing formation with your wildcard or staying put?

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      *20 or above I should say

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      8 years, 1 month ago

      assuming you are not already playing 4 or 5 at the back ?

    3. MikeBravo
      8 years, 1 month ago

      442 coming back into fashion. Watford, Southampton...

    4. WesMantooth
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Next four gameweeks might be different.

      Invest in players, not formations.

      I think defs will stop performing at the level We've seen sofar, but I also think a lot of them will continue to offer great value.

      I'm currently shifting between 3-4 at the back and will prob continue to do so until wc. If there's a lot of offensive heavyhitters offering great value, i'll prob be tempted to go 4 or 4/5 at the back.

    5. Slaps
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I would have read that stat completely differently, considering most premiership teams play 4-5 midfielders/defenders and 1 striker. So isn't very likely that the ratio's would be like that, in fact it actually proves to me that forwards are worth the cash?

  4. Atimis
    8 years, 1 month ago

    If Zaha and Wally are fit, would you swap BSilva to Pedro or Lucas??

    1. Rash
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Id keep Bilva 1 more gw then switch to richarlison.

    2. yakirh
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Do you think there is any chance both are fit??

    3. Emp
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Lucas

  5. Rash
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone got a solid team having Robbo mendy Alonso Salah Mané hazard aguero in? I'm not sure it's possible..

    1. MikeBravo
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn't have much else if they get rotated.

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Hamer Foster
      Alonso Mendy Robertson Bennet AWB
      Mané Hazrad Salah Guendouzu Billing
      Aguero Mitrovic Joselu

      1. Pierce34
        8 years, 1 month ago

        *"Solid team" 😛

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          8 years, 1 month ago

          My TV is 102.2 and i had a few of them already ... 0.0 itb 🙂

          1. Rash
            8 years, 1 month ago

            I have all but hazard.

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        8 years, 1 month ago

        For a -24?

      3. Rash
        8 years, 1 month ago

        So no then 🙂

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          8 years, 1 month ago

          I don’t like it and it is the complete opposite to my team - I have AWB, Jorginho & Fraser on my bench - I like the comfort of that 🙂

    3. Ould Onion Bagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      All but Hazard.

      Ederson, (Hamer)
      Robbo, Mendy, Alonso, AWB, (Pereira)
      Salah, Mane, Jota, (Hughes) (Kante)
      Aguero (C), Mitro, Jimenez

      0.7 ITB to go Jota to Richarlison for GW 6.

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I am

        Ederson, (Hamer)
        Robbo, Mendy, Alonso, AWB, Pereira
        Salah, Pedro, Mkhi, Fraser, Jorginho
        Aguero (C), Mitro, Ings
        2.8 itb burning a hole in my pocket

    4. Stockport Hatter
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I have all those bar Mané right now.

      1. Rash
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I have all but hazard.. I believe it's either hazard or mane.. Not both

    5. jtreble
      8 years, 1 month ago

      All but Mane.

  6. Emiliano Sala
    8 years, 1 month ago

    My front 7 on WC
    Hazard Dilva maddison fraser
    Aguero vardy mitro
    Have 3.5 itb 🙁
    Mitro to laca?
    Don't want mane and salah for now. Will get salah after gw 8

    1. MikeBravo
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Why spend the money when Mitro is the form player?

      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 1 month ago

        agreed

    2. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Who's your fifth mid?

      You could do Fraser to Lucas Moura or Pedro.

      1. Emiliano Sala
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Lerma
        Moura is not nailed but I agree I considered changing fraser

        1. Dthinger
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          8 years, 1 month ago

          He's as nailed as anyone in that price range.

          You have two budget mids from Bournemouth?

          Forget my original suggestion. Upgrade Lerma!

          1. Emiliano Sala
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Lerma is fodder! I can't play 353

            1. Dthinger
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              8 years, 1 month ago

              sure- but you have the money to upgrade him and leave fraser on the bench

    3. Emp
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Alli is looking good

    4. Runaway
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I would do Dilva>Sterling, he has the potential to explode and would be a massive differential.

    5. Kun Tozser
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Dave to Sterling

    6. Emiliano Sala
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks all

  7. Stevie B
    8 years, 1 month ago

    What to do with this team?

    Fabianski (Foster)
    Alonso, Mendy, Robertson (Wan-Bissaka) (Peltier)
    Salah, Mane, Pedro, B. Silva (Stephens)
    Agüero (C), Ings, Zaha

    Probably this week Zaha -> Wilson
    Next week B. Silva and Ings -> Richarlison and Mitrovic
    Or is this stupid?

    Thank you!

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I am not sure about Richarlison yet. Not that many shots in target and very high conversion rate. Can he keep this up or get more shots in?

  8. zaydon
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Is wan- bisaka the only 4.0m defender nailed ??

    1. Rash
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe Bennett

    2. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      He's not 4.0 unless you've had him since week 1.

      1. bigwig
        8 years, 1 month ago

        He's still 4.0

        1. Dthinger
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          8 years, 1 month ago

          WanB is 4.1M

    3. Lazaretti
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Bennett 4.0 & Wan Bissaka 4.1 seems to be nailed atm.

  9. Bruno Bruno!!
    8 years, 1 month ago

    What to do with this lot?

    Patricio
    Robertson Azpilicueta Mendy Wan-Bissaka
    Hazard B.Silva (R) Mkhitaryan (R) Mane
    King Aguero

    Foster Hughes Zaha (I) Tomkins (I)

    1FT 0 ITB

    (R) = rotation risk

    ( I ) = Injury doubt

    1. yakirh
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Since when Mane is a rotation risk?

      You have a great team. Wait for news

      1. Bruno Bruno!!
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Thats meant for Mkhitaryan

        1. yakirh
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Oh right sorry
          Wait for news
          Bernardo out might be top priority

          1. Bruno Bruno!!
            8 years, 1 month ago

            If Zaha and Tomkins are fit for next GW I will just save a transfer

  10. bigwig
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Would you keep Richarlison if you still had him?

    1. Bruno Bruno!!
      8 years, 1 month ago

      most probably yes

    2. Lazaretti
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Sure

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Probably. There are likely more important issues to solve.

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Well... On the other hand Richarlison looks like he is going to drop in price and I am not certain whether Arsenal away gw6 is fixture to bring him in. So it depends on other players.

    4. Ould Onion Bagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal GW 6 is a great time to have him. Arsenal defense is atrocious.

  11. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Will FPL be open for non-British people after Brexit? Brexit means Brexit.

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Brexit means Brexit only from EU. Not exiting the whole world 😉

    2. Jafooli
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Cattermole will be captain material as there won’t be any overseas players.....

    3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Britain is open to anyone that owns a Pitchfork _No passport required.

    4. Alan The Llama
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A rudimentary understanding of language is a rudimentary understanding of language.

      In answer to your question, the Tories are negotiating the status of FPL as we speak.

  12. Krafty Werks
    8 years, 1 month ago

    NO Pool 3-5-2 WC, not as crazy as it might sound?...thoughts anyone please?

    Patricio
    Mendy / Alonso / Shaw
    Hazard / D.Silva / Lucas Moura / Maddison / Fraser
    Aguero / Lukaku

    Hamer, Holebas, Wan-Bissaka, Kamara.

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I would have Mitrovic before Lukaku and use the money in midfield. Kamara is a waste of money even if you intend benching him

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Not bad at all! Not sure about Lukaku tho.
      Think I would go for Vardy and use those money elsewhere.
      D.Silva -> Mane for example.

  13. Jafooli
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Between them Knobcharilson & Trollcott have 44pts for the season.

    I’ve had them both at some stage for a sum total of -1pt.

    Not sure why I bother.

    1. Rash
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Will you be getting rich back?

      1. Jafooli
        8 years, 1 month ago

        No, never....already on my never again list.

        1. Rash
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Thankfully wally was cemented on my never again list from previous seasons.

    2. Hasselbaink Forever
      8 years, 1 month ago

      How's your season going so far other than those two?

  14. gonzalocampos
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Happy days:

    Crystal Palace talisman ​Wilfried Zaha says that he will return to training 'soon' after missing last weekend's match against Southampton with an adductor strain.

    Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/6163088-wilfried-zaha-confirms-he-will-return-to-crystal-palace-training-soon-after-missing-saints-match

    1. OPTA FPL
      8 years, 1 month ago

      soon = 4 weeks
      if he didnt announce anything, it meant he will be ready for next game

    2. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Soon. Nice and specific 😉

    3. jtreble
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No, happy weeks.

  15. Desperately Seeking Dusan
    8 years, 1 month ago

    "The Clarets’ defensive performances this calendar year heavily suggest that their early-season form in 2017/18 was something of a statistical anomaly and owed more to the heroics of the currently injured Nick Pope (£4.9m) than their solidity as a collective unit: Pope had a better expected goals (xG) prevented total (+9.30) than all other Premier League goalkeepers bar David de Gea last season."

    https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/09/05/burnleys-fixtures-easing-up-but-their-defence-remains-a-concern/#hc_post_a_comment

    I said this re DDG and the United defence last season i.e. that they weren't very good and DDG's performances flattered their "defensive stability" but never once got a mention on the Scoutcast (I sound like FPL Virgin now) ... which of course makes me a huge mug for starting with DDG in goal this season when 1) He was likely to regress and I'd identified it and 2) I hate premium keepers ... what a MUG!

    1. Rash
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I think it was clear to most that DDG was the reason United got so many clean sheets. In fact I'd go as far to say as it's stating the obvious.

  16. EL tridente
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this WC

    Patricio (Ryan)
    Alonso, Mendy, Holebas (Cedric, Wan-Bissaka)
    Hazard, Mané, Pedro, Neves (Billing)
    Aguero, Lukaku, Wilson

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Cedric -> Bennet
      Neves -> Fraser

      G2G

  17. Babit1967
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Hey this is really bugging me

    A) Salah Dilva Maddison

    Or

    B) Mane Sterling Moura

    Which would you choose?

    1. olly:)
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A)

    2. jtreble
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A.

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A easy

    4. Dannyb
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A out of that lot.

    5. Ajax Hamsterdam
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A by far

    6. Babit1967
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers lads

  18. jtreble
    8 years, 1 month ago

    A for me.

    1. jtreble
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Apologies.

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      8 years, 1 month ago

      D-

  19. Bruno Bruno!!
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Would it be crazy to drop Robertson and Bring in Alonso given the tough fixtures and potential of rotation

    1. Rash
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I'm happy with both but if I had to choose then it's Alonso.

    2. Cok3y5murf
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No

  20. adam28193
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Who gets more points in next 4 weeks?

    A. PVA
    B. Wilson

    1. Rash
      8 years, 1 month ago

      B

  21. Ghost Ship
    8 years, 1 month ago

    I think Burnley were never about stopping shots in the box - the arch defensive set ups like Pulis, Allardyce and early Burnley were about packing the area and blocking. Last season Burnley opened up in the second half playing more attacking footy. This season they tried to do that but the Europe league killed them (even if you change some of the players the management have double the work load).

    Now they are out of Europe I think Dyche will now have them back to basics. Total defence.

    1. Pinky Blinders
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Question is can they go back to that style?

  22. Jet5605
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Putting nationality and FPL aside, do people rate Luke Shaw or Andy Robertson higher?

    Both very exciting young left backs. While Shaw has improved a lot I think Robertson edges it with his better delivery and sweet left foot. Thoughts?

    1. Rash
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Robbo one of best in Europe for me.

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Robertson for me. That being said. If Shaw were playing for Klopp's Liverpool I think he would be even better.

  23. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 1 month ago

    So, given his form, should I keep playing Holebas regardless of fixtures until he breaks? I'm thinking maybe yes...

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Depends who you have on your bench instead of him?

      1. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Not much... AWB and Bennett!

  24. Gringo Kid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Pedro or Maddison, Hazard is already there?

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I went for Pedro

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Pedro for now...

  25. Rash
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Foster fab
    Robbo mendy Alonso tomkins* AWB
    Salah Mané Bilva* Fraser Stephens
    Aguero Wilson ings

    How's this plan barring any injuries..

    Save my FT then do tomkins Bilva to trippier richarlison?

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds good

  26. Alan The Llama
    8 years, 1 month ago

    It's probably been mentioned, but fantasy UCL is up and running. Those teams that were missing were added today.

  27. Baps Hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 1 month ago

    I hate the idea of taking a sideways move hit (Bilva to Dilva), since it may bite back. But for next weeks I may have to do some other changes also:

    Patricio / Lössl

    Mendy, Robbo, Alonso, Bavies, WanB
    Haz, Mané, Bilva, Kanté, Hughes
    Kun, Wilson, Kamara

    3.2 itb (Ditched Salah for Haz, even though I had decided to wait two weeks with that move...). So my plan now is to do Silva for Silva and take -4. Next week Hughes to Richarlison. WC before gw9 or slightly later. Bavies has had quite nice underlying stats, but delivered nothing. Am I missing something obvious with my plan?

  28. Jasօn
    8 years, 1 month ago

    TEAM A)

    Patricio / Hamer 

    Mendy / Alonso / Cedric / Bennett / Wan B

    Hazard / Pedro / D. Silva / Salah / Hojberg

    Aguero / Mitrovic / Wilson 

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    TEAM B)

    Patricio / Hamer 

    Mendy /Alonso / Holebas / Bennett /WanB

    Hazard / Mane / Pedro / D. Silva / Moura

    Aguero / Mitrovic / Wilson 

    Please help me decide!!!

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      B

  29. TerryVenables
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Tough wildcard decision, which scores more points?
    (A)Salah+Mitro+Maddison+Ederson (B)Mane+Lukaku+MaddisonPatricio
    (C)Mane+Vardy+DSilva+Patricio

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A

  30. Strchld
    8 years, 1 month ago

    How is this WC team looking?

    2x 4.5
    Alonso - Mendy - Shaw (Bennet, AWB)
    Haz - Mane - Maddison - Schurrle (4.5)
    Lukaku - Kun - Wilson

    Dont have any Arsenal is worried, but hard to know who is nailed and who not, so going to pass.
    Also, if I downgrade one of 4.5 keeper to 4.0 I could get Fraser and Mitro over Wilson and Schurrle, is it worth it? For me its more like a flip a coin which pair is going to score more.

    1. Drexl Spivey
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Like every other Salah-less WC team posted: desperate up top, same in the middle.