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4 October 2018 1274 comments
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There were defeats for both Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool in the UEFA Champions League on Wednesday evening and contrasting fortunes for the Fantasy assets on show.

Harry Kane (£12.5m), unsurprisingly the most-bought forward of the week in Fantasy Premier League, was on target for the third match in a row to give his existing owners – and prospective ones – plenty of encouragement ahead of the visit of Cardiff City on Saturday.

Mohamed Salah (£12.9m), Sadio Mane (£9.9m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.4m) all started for Liverpool in Italy, meanwhile, but the much-owned front three were to blank for the second away fixture in a row as the Reds went down to a late Lorenzo Insigne goal.

We round up all the goals, assists, team news, manager quotes and Fantasy talking points from the two matches in north-west London and Naples, plus provide an injury update on Naby Keita (£7.3m).

Tottenham Hotspur 2-4 Barcelona

  • Goals: Harry Kane (£12.5m), Erik Lamela (£6.4m)
  • Assists: Erik Lamela, Son Heung-min (£8.3m)

Injury-hit Spurs produced a spirited performance at Wembley last night but were ultimately outclassed by Lionel Messi and Barcelona, who deservedly emerged from the fixture with all three points to leave Mauricio Pochettino’s side cast adrift in UEFA Champions League Group B.

Harry Kane’s expertly taken goal was heartening for the ever-growing number of Fantasy managers who are backing the England striker to put Cardiff City to the sword this weekend and an ominous sign for those who aren’t.

As he had been in the opening few weeks of the season, Kane was dropping worryingly deep at times yesterday but that appeared to have been a concerted effort to exploit the spaces left behind the high-pressing Arthur and Sergio Busquets in the Barcelona midfield.

Kane’s first goal attempt of the night was indeed a shot from distance comfortably held by Marc-Andre ter Stegen after the Spurs striker had collected the ball in a withdrawn position.

That Kane was able to find the net for the second successive match without the supply lines of injured pair Christian Eriksen (£9.2m) and Dele Alli (£9.0m) was another positive for his FPL owners, as both of these premium midfielders are set to miss the visit of Neil Warnock’s newly promoted side on Saturday.

Erik Lamela (£6.4m) produced another decent display, harrying Barcelona all evening and indeed provided the assist for Kane’s goal before adding a second himself courtesy of a deflected effort from just outside the penalty area.

The Argentinian midfielder was withdrawn on 79 minutes with what appeared to just be cramp and Spurs can ill-afford to lose another option in those supporting roles behind Kane – particularly one who has impressed in the brief instances in which he has been afforded pitch-time this season.

Son Heung-min (£8.3m) and Lucas Moura (£7.4m) were perhaps less influential in the attacking midfield three with Lamela, but played their part to varying degrees. The industrious Moura came close to grabbing an equaliser with the score at 2-3, and Son had a volley disallowed in the first half after a Kieran Trippier (£6.2m) handball. Son did, however, look jaded at times and was substituted midway through the second half. Given the dearth of attacking midfield options available, Pochettino might have to field Son again on Saturday despite his rather obvious signs of fatigue.

Harry Winks (£5.5m), meanwhile, impressed in the centre of the park and may have played himself into contention for the visit of Cardiff.

Pochettino was heartened by his team’s attacking play:

“In the second half, the team believed and we competed in a very good way. I’m so proud about that, playing against a team like this with the handicap from the beginning. The team gave everything and if Lucas scored, it’s 3-3 and maybe we are talking in a different way. The game was so open. We tried to go forward and tried to score. We were so brave. We were always in the game…in the last minute when we conceded the fourth goal the game was over, but I feel proud.”

It was a night to forget for Trippier and his fellow Spurs defenders, but mitigation has to be provided given the calibre of the opposition.

That being said, Trippier was partly culpable for Barcelona’s first goal, being caught flat-footed as Jordi Alba advanced beyond him to set up Philippe Coutinho, and was given a torrid time at right-back all evening.

Trippier’s owners may care little, of course, given that his Fantasy appeal mostly stems from his attacking threat, but Jacob Murphy (£4.8m) – who excelled in Gameweek 7 – will fancy his chances against the former Burnley full-back on Saturday (if both are selected) given the ease with which Alba dominated Trippier down the left flank.

As has come to be expected, Trippier at least got forward to support the Spurs attack and was again prominent at corner-kick situations, finding Kane and Davinson Sanchez (£5.8m) with deliveries in the second half.

That Ben Davies (£5.7m) got the nod at left-back suggests Danny Rose (£5.9m) might return to the starting XI on Saturday as Pochettino continues his full-back rotation on the left flank.

With Jan Vertonghen (£6.0m) sidelined through injury, Sanchez and Toby Alderweireld (£5.9m) were the occasionally shaky-looking pairing at centre-half. Vertonghen’s continued absence this Saturday means that the wing-back system might well be ditched (as it was last night) in favour of a 4-2-3-1, though Eric Dier (£4.8m) could potentially step into the breach if Pochettino wishes to continue with a three-man central defence in the league.

Hugo Lloris (£5.4m) didn’t aid his side on his return from injury, unwisely rushing out in the move that led to Barcelona’s opening goal and leaving his net unguarded for Philippe Coutinho to convert.

Pochettino was understandably irked by the sloppy nature of that Coutinho strike:

“If you watch football and understand it, you will know how hard is to come out of the dressing room and find yourself 1-0 down so early. It’s so difficult after this for the team to feel confident to play. It’s so tough. When you play at this level you can’t concede these type of chances. When you concede in less than two minutes, it changes completely everything. The emotion becomes tough when you are playing against Barcelona and players like Messi and Suarez.”

The Spurs boss backed his side’s defensive display, however, particularly in the opening 45 minutes.

“We didn’t concede one chance to Messi in the first half. In the second half, he had more space and that is difficult to stop. If you watch the first half again, how many chances did he have? Not one. In the second half, with a lot of space, it is unbelievable how he runs.”

Tottenham Hotspur XI (4-2-3-1): Lloris; Trippier, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Davies; Winks, Wanyama (Dier 57′); Moura, Lamela (Llorente 79′), Son (Sissoko 66′); Kane 7.

Napoli 1-0 Liverpool

A night of graft and chasing for Liverpool ultimately counted for little as the Reds were undone by a late, late goal from Lorenzo Insigne to condemn them to a 1-0 defeat in Naples.

Though Jurgen Klopp’s side have four days to recover from their exertions in southern Italy before the visit of Manchester City, there must be concerns about tired legs for anyone owning one or more of the Reds’ FPL assets: the likes of Mohamed Salah, Roberto Firmino, Andrew Robertson (£6.3m) and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.1m) did a lot of harrying in their 90-minute showings, while Sadio Mane was substituted with just a minute of the match remaining.

A further worry for those Fantasy managers with a Liverpool asset was just how little the Reds created on Wednesday evening.

Klopp’s troops racked up 13 shots, four efforts on target and three big chances in their deserved 1-1 draw with Chelsea last weekend but they never really got going last night, with David Ospina not forced into making a single save. The Reds, indeed, could only muster four attempts on goal all evening.

Salah came closest to scoring with a shot that bent just wide of Ospina’s left-hand post, while the former Arsenal goalkeeper also had to be quick off his line to deny Mane and Salah goal-scoring opportunities.

Aside from that there was precious little to report from the Reds in attack and Klopp acknowledged that his side didn’t pose a big enough threat going forward:

“They won the game because they scored a goal, but obviously no attempt on target [for us]… I don’t remember when that happened last. I am really fine to give the credit to Napoli, but I think we had a big part in it as well. We didn’t have a lot of set-pieces, no shots on target, that’s not enough. It felt like this in the game and now we have to change it. Napoli made a really good game, we didn’t, and that’s why they deserve the three points.”

That Joe Gomez (£5.1m) and Alisson (£5.6m) were perhaps Liverpool’s stand-out players said much about the pattern of the match, with Gomez clearing off the line and Alisson making several stops as Napoli came ever-closer to that seemingly elusive winner.

Dries Mertens also struck the crossbar in the final ten minutes before Insigne broke Liverpool’s resistance in the dying stages of the tie.

Klopp was somewhat critical of his side’s defensive performance, highlighting the errors that led to Napoli’s winner:

“The start of the game was OK, it was like we wanted it, and then we had… the timing for our defensive movements were not good enough, we did not close the spaces in the right moment. We didn’t react in the right situation so they could play through our formation. Things like this happen in a game very often but not as often as it happened tonight, and that costs energy because we closed these gaps too late. To close it we had to fight really hard for it and then when you have the ball you have to play much calmer than we did. First half was kind of OK, but second half was not good enough. It’s always a bad sign if you have to say your goalkeeper was your best player, but that was obvious tonight. Then in the last minute, we made another tactical mistake and that’s the problem. We didn’t close the gap between Joe and Virg, we have to do that, and then we cannot react anymore. We didn’t concede a lot of goals in the season but that’s the second of the same kind, so I think we should sort that immediately.”

Alexander-Arnold looked particularly suspect at right-back, getting caught out of position on a number of occasions and being wasteful whenever granted possession.

Robertson was involved in Liverpool’s rare forays down the left flank, but this was an evening when the Scottish left-back had to call upon his defensive attributes rather than the attacking threat that marks him out as a stand-out premium defender in FPL.

Liverpool’s central midfielders were fairly limited and offered little support or service to Salah, Mane and Firmino in attack, though their cause was not helped by an enforced substitution to Naby Keita early in the match.

The club posted the following bulletin on Keita, who was stretchered off after 19 minutes with a back problem:

“Liverpool Football Club can confirm Naby Keita was taken to hospital in Naples on Wednesday evening during the first half of the Champions League fixture with SSC Napoli. The midfielder started the game at the Stadio San Paolo, but was substituted inside the opening 20 minutes and replaced by Jordan Henderson after alerting the team’s medical staff to back pain. Keita was transferred to a local hospital with the club doctor, where – with the midfielder’s agreement – he underwent a number of precautionary health checks to assess his condition.”

Reports in the press on Thursday morning suggest Keita has been discharged from hospital and will fly back to England with the rest of the Liverpool squad, with his possible involvement against City on Sunday still not ruled out.

Klopp acknowledged that the match against Pep Guardiola’s side comes at a difficult time:

“Yes, it is a tough game [v City]. Absolutely. And you have seen it has been absolutely intense since the last international break with the games we’ve had – twice Chelsea and stuff like that, coming to Napoli, playing PSG and now we have the game on Sunday against Man City. We cannot change that, so we have to make sure we are ready. We have three days to recover and then we will face Man City. It would have been difficult at any time in the season, it is never easy against them. Now, let’s have a look afterwards, how the players are, what happened in the game, injury-wise, little knocks and stuff like that. Then we will prepare for Sunday. Then we have our crowd in the back. You could see tonight, Napoli used the atmosphere and we couldn’t calm it down with our performance. But on Sunday that – at least – will be 100 per cent different.”

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson; Milner (Fabinho 76′), Wijnaldum, Keita (Henderson 19′); Salah, Firmino, Mane (Sturridge 89)’.

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  1. Feed tha Sheep
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 6 months ago

    Maddison def the best 7.3 midfielder?

    1. The Left Duke #3
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 6 months ago

      This week might give few more options...

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 6 months ago

        Knockaert will emerge

    3. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 6 months ago

      Currently, could easily see Richarlison taking the spot back though

    4. Feed tha Sheep
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 6 months ago

      Sorry 7.6 I should say*

  2. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 6 months ago

    Anything need a hit here? 1.4 ITB

    Begovic - (Boruc)
    Alonso - Shaw - Wan B - (Robertson - Jazz R)
    Fraser - Pogba - Hazard - Moura - (Stephens)
    Lacazette - Aguero - Arnautovic

    Also :
    a) captain Laca or Hazard?
    b) play Fraser or Robertson?

  3. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 6 months ago

    Gtg?

    Ederson
    Trippier, Alonso, WB
    Hazard, Richarlison, Fraser, Maddison
    Kane(c), Aguero, Mitrovic

    Bench: Stekelenburg, Fellaini, TAA, Doherty

    Would you maybe go Fellaini(NEW) over Fraser(wat) ?

    1. megatron14
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 6 months ago

      Tasty

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 6 months ago

      Fab team. Yes to your question

  4. megatron14
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 6 months ago

    Any advice would be most appreciated, topping my leagues but the hyenas are circling. Got 2 FT & WC If needed.

    DDG

    AWB - Robertson - Mendy

    Richarlison - Haz - Salah - Neves

    Aggy - Mitrovic - King

    Aggy & Mendy - Kane & Holebas? Or WC?

  5. stat
      7 years, 6 months ago

      Is Westwood nailed on for Burnley?
      Looking for decent bench fodder

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 6 months ago

        Defour to come in at some point I think?

        1. stat
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Oh yeah, he's nearly fit again
            Cheers

        2. Pierce34
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          Looks nailed. Depends what you mean by 'decent' - he might fluke a few more assists but as owners we'd need a lot of luck to get his attacking returns when we actually need him.

          1. stat
              7 years, 6 months ago

              By decent I mean, might get a couple of attacking returns by the end of the season.
              But you're right, it's incredibly hard to time that.
              I might just get a 4.3M that doesn't play since everyone else in my squad plays.

        3. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          I am really enjoying this meet the manager slot on ffs i always like to hear how different managers approach the game and the apply their own style to it.

          I know Nick posts under the name TriggerLips and Phil under PhilMan (not that we see much of him anymore?) but what name does Will Thomas post under here?

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            I like it too, but they should throw on the occasional Fantasy Football Challenged manager, who is really hopeless. It would give us all a bit of a boost!

            1. Ógie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              I could make a scoutcast joke but i wont. 😉

          2. Old Wulfrunian
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            I think his name is Heisenberg.

            1. Ógie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              Yeah there is a Heisenberg that pops in here alright i think.

        4. the dom 1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          Ings > Jimenez for free or roll FT over?

          1. BigBarn
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Roll!

        5. BeDreamin
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          I need some advice, who should be on my bench.

          Alonso (SOU A)
          Trippier (CAR H)
          AWB (WOL H)
          Holebas (BOU H)
          Robertson (ManC H)
          Schurrle (ARS H)
          Chalobah (BOU H)

          1. GoonerByron
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Bottom 3

        6. Mr. Sitter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          Any move worth making here? Feels wrong to burn a transfer but I still like my team. Kane hokey cokey worth it?

          Hart, Hennessey
          Alonso, Robertson, Doherty, AWB, Bennett
          Hazard, Salah, Richarlison, Maddison, Fraser
          Aguero, Mitrovic, Wilson

          2FT 0ITB

          1. Old Wulfrunian
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Maybe loose Hen?Tough fixtures coming uo.

            1. Mr. Sitter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              Yeah could be good shout. To who though?

              1. Afghanistanislas
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                Fabianski

          2. ResultatFar
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Trippier for Robertson this week and then reverse the transfer next week

            1. Old Wulfrunian
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              no way

            2. Mr. Sitter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              Selling price of 6.1 so that’s a no go

        7. Slitherene
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          A) Mendy + Periera + Vardy

          OR

          B) Tarko + Maddison + Lacazette?

          1. Slitherene
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Pereyra of Watford

          2. ResultatFar
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            A)

        8. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          If you could have 1 going forward

          A Maddison
          B Richarlison

          1. ResultatFar
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Rich for me. He has the best home games coming

          2. Old Wulfrunian
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            a

          3. Sgt Frank Drebin
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Hard to say but I would go with Maddison because of great fixtures. Also he seems more stable in terms of form.

        9. I Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          Are hits taken into account in monthly scoring?

          1. Ghost Gooner
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Yes

            1. I Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              It's not adding up for me. One of my rivals took a hit in GW4 but it didn't subtract from his monthly total for September. I took a hit in GW5 and it did subtract from mine. Something to do with the first GW of the month maybe?

              1. Ghost Gooner
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                Did gw4 start in Sept? It might have carried over into Sept maybe?

                1. I Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 6 months ago

                  No, started in September. In any case his hit wasn't applied in August.

          2. Ógie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Of course they are.

            1. I Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              I'm looking at it right now and when I add up the monthly scores from August and September for one of my rivals it comes out to 4 points more than what his Overall score is.

          3. Brosstan
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            Not for the first gw of the month.

            1. I Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              Wow. In a ML with monthly prizes. May have to weigh up some hits first GW of the month. I care more about OR so won't go crazy but something to consider.

          4. Karan_G14
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            No

        10. #FPLBhuna
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 6 months ago

          score predictions for this week?

          a) vardy
          b) arnie
          c) kun

          1. jtreble
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            One (1) goal each.

          2. XABI 15
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 6 months ago

            7,7,1

          3. Pinturicchio10
              7 years, 6 months ago

              13
              12
              6

              1. Pieterke30
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                Sounds more like a wish than a prediction doesnt it?

                1. Pinturicchio10
                    7 years, 6 months ago

                    Did you really just ask me what my own predictions, eh, sounded like? Weirdo alert.

              2. Ode
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                2, 8, 6

              3. Sgt Frank Drebin
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                2, 5, 5

              4. RAFA THE GAFFA
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                2,10,2

              5. Pieterke30
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                8
                9
                2

            • Assisting the assister
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              Done FTs. Is this GTG? 0ITB.

              Fab Foster
              Alonso Robertson AWB (Jonny Tomkins)
              Salah Haz Rich Fraser (Stephens)
              Kane Arnie Ings

            • Sadio
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 6 months ago

              Going for Aubameyang over Kane is probably overthinking things, right?

              I have Lacazette as well.

              1. Sgt Frank Drebin
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                Yeah...

              2. GoonerByron
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                I WC'd this week so I could get Auba out for Kane

              3. Pinturicchio10
                  7 years, 6 months ago

                  Playing out wide as he is, he's worth about 8m at most in fpl. I'm likely selling him this week, Fulham or no Fulham. Gonna be hard to rack up a score when he's stuck out wide and can't cross the ball for diamonds.

              4. XabiAlonso
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                Who scores more this week
                A) Kane Wilson ings
                B) aguero arnie ings
                C) aguero arnie Wilson

                1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 6 months ago

                  C i'd guess

              5. King Kun Ta
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 6 months ago

                A hit this and the next GW would give me this team....

                Fab Bego
                Alonso TAA Bennet AWB 4.4 def
                Mane Hazard Maddison Fraser Stephens
                Kun Kane Mitro

                Yay or Nay? Salah no option....

                1. King Kun Ta
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 6 months ago

                  What do y’all reckon?

              6. stat
                  7 years, 6 months ago

                  Is a 5th mid that actually plays really worth having?

                  I have 5M to spend on a 5th mid and I'm thinking of going as low as possible and getting Elneny at 4.3M.

                  My logic being that I'll have 14 out of 15 starters, so every week I'll have 2 starters on the bench (defenders) in case one of my players doesn't play at all.

                  There are no 4.5M mids or under who look like actual prospects like in the past with RLC so I think saving the money by going for a completely useless 4.3M could come in handy when I'm making another transfer in the future.

                  Thoughts?

                  1. Brosstan
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 6 months ago

                    Depends on your team. Most likely the last bench player wont ever play. But having one can make it easier to hold players through suspensions or short term injury.

                    1. stat
                        7 years, 6 months ago

                        Good point

                    2. A.T
                      • 15 Years
                      7 years, 6 months ago

                      For an extra 0.1 you may as well get someone who plays. You never know when you might need him, especially around Christmas time.

                      1. stat
                          7 years, 6 months ago

                          I guess it's between
                          1) Being slightly less likely to be priced out of a transfer
                          2) Potentially having a couple extra pts around Christmas time

                        • BigBarn
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 6 months ago

                          Agree with this. Obiang for the extra 0.1 has to be the percentage decision.

                      2. XabiAlonso
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 6 months ago

                        Ive had gunnarsson since week 1 as 3rd sub and still have had over 70 points on my bench in the 7 weeks. May need the extra sub over Xmas on one or two weeks at most

                      3. Pierce34
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 6 months ago

                        Looking at your team from previous posts - personally I don't like having lots of money on the bench so I don't like the whole Pedro/Wilson rotation going on. But I don't think there's a need to go all the way to the other extreme. A 4.4 or 4.5 that plays will suffice - better to have 2 or 3 points off your bench than 0.

                        1. stat
                            7 years, 6 months ago

                            Yep the Pedro/Wilson thing is something that I'm trying to fix
                            But it's incredibly unlikely that I'll ever need my 3rd sub to come on

                            1. Pierce34
                              • 10 Years
                              7 years, 6 months ago

                              I think you might as well get a starting player since you can get one at 4.4 with Obiang or Masuaku, or Stephens when he's back. It's not a big difference.

                              (Having said that, I went for a 3.9 defender instead of Bennett so do as I say, not as I do 😛 )

                              1. stat
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I mean I could, but is the 0.1 worth it if I never end up needing them?
                                  Since I'm planning to make more transfers next GW to fix my squad's balance I think I might go for the 4.3 just in case I get priced out of a move

                          • Sgt Frank Drebin
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 6 months ago

                            I always go for only 14 starting players. I can't remember a situation when I needed all three subs.

                          • Typo
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 6 months ago

                            Agree, previous seasons a 4.0/3.9 nonplaying defender has been the 14/15 playing rout. This year we have bennett and awb in that pricebracket, and they are nailed. Think a dead mid is a viable tactic then

                          • the Penman
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 14 Years
                            7 years, 6 months ago

                            The cheap defenders this season are ones you’d be happy playing - so I’d say go for it.

                          • Pacer.
                            • 11 Years
                            7 years, 6 months ago

                            the fifteenth player is often thought of as 'never playing. but by selecting a non-player what you're actually doing is giving yourself a choice of 2 players to load first on you bench instead of 3. I try to think of bench players as equal and attempt to keep it tended to so I have 3 options. Obviously if there are simply no good options within a certain price range then it doesn't matter

                            1. stat
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                Yeah that's a good point too, and as you said if there are no good options it doesn't matter.
                                The only potential issue being that defenders can lose points for conceding goals, but I'm assuming that I'm more likely to bench a clean sheet than attacking returns from a mid that cheap.

                          • Top managers underplay the importance of luck
                            tafrère
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 6 months ago

                            I'm watching the MTM video, and it's always great to watch, not because I feel closer to FPL geniuses, but because it's always fun to add faces, voices and arguments to FPL managers. It makes the game more human and a bit cooler. But one thing I found strange is that those top managers are very reluctent to talk about all the luck involved in the game. I always roll my eyes over when Jonty asks them what strategy they used in their best seasons that they didn't used in other seasons. I mean, we all know the answer : their best seasons started better, they got more luck throughout the 38 Gameweeks getting more 50/50 decisions right. It's obviously not some mysterious strategy that makes you a top 100 manager. Quality FPL managers have the keys to finish high, but between a top 5k and a top 100 it's just pure luck and nothing else.

                            1. Brosstan
                              • 11 Years
                              7 years, 6 months ago

                              Agreed. If there really was a hidden strategy they used to get their best finish, Im sure they would have used it again the following seasons.

                            2. XabiAlonso
                              • 10 Years
                              7 years, 6 months ago

                              I had a secret strategy for my best finish. Just join my patreon to find out the details

                              1. tafrère
                                • 9 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                lmao

                            3. Ghost Gooner
                              • 12 Years
                              7 years, 6 months ago

                              You don't get lucky over multiple seasons.

                              1. Brosstan
                                • 11 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                Did you read what he wrote?

                              2. tafrère
                                • 9 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                Well nobody got top 100 finish over multiple seasons.

                                1. stufail
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 15 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I did.

                                  But there was definitely luck involved, plus a few calculated gambles.

                            4. Ógie
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 13 Years
                              7 years, 6 months ago

                              It is a long season and you make your luck in the long run.

                              For me the real difference between a top 10k manager and a top 1k or top100 manager is that the managers that manage to find their way into a high ranking position and then go for the jugular by playing their own game and not doing what everyone else is doing just to protect their rank.

                              1. tafrère
                                • 9 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                But if someone do that one season and finish top 100, and then do the exact same thing next season and finish 20,000, don't you think it proves that there was a lot of luck involved ?

                                1. Ógie
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  The thing is that every season is different for for both the Premier League and even the fpl managers involved.

                                  The game is so dynamic that a winning strategy for one season might be a losing one the next.

                                  Of course you need some luck to get up that high but like i said you make that for yourself in these cases.

                                  Lets say this gw with everyone jumping on Kane and giving him the armband and you decided to captain Son or Lemila who could easily outscore him and one of gets a monster haul is that luck or is that making your luck?

                                  1. tafrère
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    It would be making your luck. But if you do that consistantly throughout the season and got it right everytime, is it making your luck or being lucky while trying to make your luck lmao ?

                                    1. Ógie
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 13 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      If you mean by doing that consistantly throughout the season what you believe is right for your team and captaincy well then that is the name of the game.

                                      Believe me any manager that has had a high ranking finish will also have plenty of hard luck story's from that season like any other manager.

                                      Some guy forgot to press the wild card button a few seasons back and took a massive hit which is bad luck but then went on to win fpl which is good luck so these things pretty much balance themselves out in the end.

                                      1. RedLightning
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • Has Moderation Rights
                                        • 15 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Do you mean the one who won FPL one season, but then forgot to press his wildcard button in the following one?
                                        But I wouldn't call forgetting to press the wildcard button bad luck - that's just bad play.

                                  2. That Was Easy!
                                    • 11 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    This game is hardly dynamic. There are SO little way to score points that this game has an extremely high variance, and that alone is enough to conclude that top, top finishes are backed by a great deal of luck.

                              2. Deulofail
                                • 10 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                This. Though it's still possible to do well by copying everyone else, and could just as easily go wrong if you don't try to protect your rank, on the whole I think the managers with the highest ranks wont care much about ownership, but will probably also have more low ranks too. Must be so dull to play the ownership game, getting the same mediocre ranks each year. Will take a lot more luck for those managers to get into the top 100 than the 'mavericks' imo

                              3. Monkey Hanger
                                • 12 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                Sort of agree. My best seasons have come when I have had someone to chase down in my ML's. This meant not going with the crowd and taking risks. Going for the jugular means the same, I think?

                            5. MTPockets
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                I've thought the same. Still waiting for someone to go on and summarise as a combination of luck and/or spending way more time on it than 99% of others.

                                1. Old Wulfrunian
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Generally,though,when someone spends all his time for FPL and gets a high rank then he thinks(?) that his rank came from his study,effort and not by luck.

                              • SADIO SANÉ
                                • 10 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                people rarely attribute their success to luck or coincidence in any walk of life, it doesn't make them feel superior anymore. In fairness, I'm pretty sure Triggerlips mentioned it.

                                1. SADIO SANÉ
                                  • 10 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  not hating with the superior comment btw, more just a general observation outside FPL.

                                2. RedLightning
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • Has Moderation Rights
                                  • 15 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Confirmation Bias, I think.
                                  If a 50/50 decision turns out well then it's skill.
                                  But if it turns out badly then it's bad luck.

                                  1. Eden Wizard
                                    • 7 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    This

                              • Pacer.
                                • 11 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                Yeah agree with this. We're always searching for strategies that are generalisable across seasons, but the reality is it doesn't really exist. So much is heavily contextualised and like you say, there's so much luck involved that you could apply the same strategy with different results again and again.

                                It' good to get some wisdom from their experience but I don't think you can really tie it strongly to the difference between great finishes and excellent finished

                              • stat
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I agree with this. My best finish came in 15/16 (6.5K) but I can't say that having Mahrez from GW 1 did not involve any luck. I remember reading about decent options at that price level before the season had started and I decided to go with Mahrez. There's no way I could have predicted that Leicester would have won the league and that Mahrez would become essential for pretty much the entire season.

                                • Pacer.
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  One of the most useful bits of advise that is generalisable is price-pointing. Unless you have a season where almost no premium players perform, which is so unlikely it's not worth considering, It will NEVER not be advantage to be able to maximise options and minimise hits/FTs to realise them

                                • Pieterke30
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  They are reluctant to acknowledge how big a part luck played in their success because they have been luckier than most - that’s why they have been more successful than most.

                                  Can see why they wont admit it though.

                                  1. Christina.
                                    • 16 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    ...plus they need to sell books and get viewers to watch their pods/pay for advice.

                                    Can't attribute it to luck. Never.

                                    🙄

                                    1. tafrère
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      I geniunely don't watch pods to get more wisdom from top FPL managers. I just find it fun to see a guy talking about his team and the game in general. For example, Andy, I watch almost all his streams and videos, and could give him some money to support his work once in a while, but I don't do it for advices, it's just great to see people that driven about the game and producing high quality content. It's all about the community of addicts that we are.

                                      1. Bow Locks
                                        • 16 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        I would not watch a video of a guy talking about his fpl team if I was being paid to do so.

                                  2. Pieterke30
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Example - last season was my worst over the last three. Why did Kane score hat tricks when I didnt have him and blanked when I captained him (several times!) vs weaker opposition?

                                    That’s 100% luck / bad luck

                                  3. RedLightning
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • Has Moderation Rights
                                    • 15 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    As various golfers and other sportsmen have said, the more they practice the luckier they get.

                                    A higher level of skill than most of us possess is necessary in order to achieve consistently high finishes, but an extremely high finish does require a significant element of luck.

                                • FPL Virgin
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  As a high profile, naturally talented FPL manager, I often get asked this very question.

                                  I always say that hard work tips the scales of luck in your favour. If you're experiencing bad luck, all you can do is work harder

                                  1. XabiAlonso
                                    • 10 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Lol what you talking about haha

                                  2. Pacer.
                                    • 11 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    I thought your talent was natural?

                                    why are you working hard

                                    1. FPL Virgin
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      Why are you referring to what the ladies say to me in the bedroom? I'm talking about FPL here.

                                  3. FPL ZB
                                    • Has Moderation Rights
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    hahahahahaaha

                                    1. FPL Virgin
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      This is conduct unbecoming of a mod slash marine.

                                • Runaway
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I very much agree with that you do not need a luck to enter into top 10K, you can do that with a strategy (not the same one every year though) and time dedication but for 1K I believe that you need something else (not only luck, maybe also some vision, gut feeling etc. that may also be considered as luck by some people)

                                  1. NorwichCityLad
                                    • 11 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    I have to say they know how to finish high can’t be consistent every year without knowing anything but there not going to tell us there strategy I can’t watch that anymore MTM keep hiding the truth he didn’t answer many question he was asked

                                    1. tafrère
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      Lol you're a bit paranoiad aren't you ?

                                • Ajaxeeding
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 7 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  This is my third season. I think that research and strategy (e.g., looking past the next GW when making transfers, etc) do help you become "luckier" over the 38 GWs. However, luck is still the key. In looking at my ML from last year, the reason why my main ML opponents were ahead of me was because I chose the wrong captain (i.e., Kane on all his blanks), while my ML opponents luckily had the band on someone else. If we took away all of the Captain double points, I would have been leading my ML.

                                  In any event, I feel lucky to be part of this community and for FPL in general, as it has given me 10 games to watch every weekend rather than the 1 game of the team I actually care about.

                                • Forza
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  As someone who's finished at rank 3035, then stayed outside the top 200k for three years, and is now in the top 10k, I agree.

                                • No Luck
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I think you are missing the point a bit about risk management. There is definitely a lot of luck in FPL and every week is basically a random number generator. But to be successful you need to be able to balance the risk/reward and make decisions (transfers) that put you in a position to benefit from luck and mitigate the potential for bad luck. Strategy in games like this can often be to identify when you can go 'fishing' for the good luck. When it comes off you are seen as lucky but it can be carefully planned.

                                • diesel001
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Best finishes have always been when I got off to a good start. FPL is a leader's game because of price changes and that over time the pool of players to choose from gets smaller (because you know who is nailed, who is attacking etc.). There is luck, but that is mostly on the 50/50s.

                                  1. RedLightning
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • Has Moderation Rights
                                    • 15 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    That's very true.
                                    I always put a lot of thought into my initial squad with the aim of getting off to a flying start, but it very rarely works out as well as I'd hoped.
                                    It's not impossible to recover from a poor start, but it does make it far more difficult.

                                • jtreble
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  You've got this all wrong: all of our green arrows are skill; our red arrows are bad luck.

                                • Eden Wizard
                                  • 7 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  It’s 90% luck

                                • Badluck Jonathan
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I’ve been saying this for years. Never seem to get the rub of the green 😉

                                • Jigger & Pony
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 12 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  In the long term luck is a zero sum game. But if you are consistently performing at a high level, skill has a meaningful role to play. See below OR finishes for last 6 seasons:

                                  1,050
                                  2,330
                                  5,412
                                  6,934
                                  629
                                  774

                                  Don’t think this is luck.

                                  1. Jigger & Pony
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 12 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Btw these are not mine lol

                                  2. XabiAlonso
                                    • 10 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    That's some massive luck right there 😉
                                    Who is this

                                    1. Jigger & Pony
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 12 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      It’s our HOF no. 2

                                  3. Baps Hunter
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 8 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Nope. It proves that a great player can usually get top10k OR and needs to be lucky to be in top 1k. And since he has been twice out of top 5k, with more bad luck he might have dropped out of top10k.

                                • That Was Easy!
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  A perfect example would be bringing in Kane (C) this week or Haz (C). This IS very much a 50/50 decision, and unlucky managers will get these wrong much of the time, whereas someone who finishes top 1k probably got 80% of these right throughout the season.

                                  1. That Was Easy!
                                    • 11 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    And by 50/50 I mean how it will fair not only this week, but the next 4/5. If you can tell me who will score more with confidence I'd be shocked.

                                  2. Mo Mané Mo Problems
                                    • 11 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Yeah, I would agree.

                                    If you simplify it and say there are 100 decisions you will make over the course of the season, you need to nail 90/100 to get top 1k. After that you need to be bold and be lucky.

                                • Bird Raymond
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  "The harder I work the luckier I get".

                                  1. Lord.
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 11 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    ... said Ron Jeremy.

                                • Demel
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I am currently top 10k.

                                  2 years ago I finished 3k.

                                  Last season I finished outside the top 200k.

                                  I didn't play the season any different in either year.

                                  I like to take a calcluated risk. 2 years ago my risks paid off. Doubling up on Brunt and Macaulay caused my rank to soar. Last year I didn't own Salah until the new year and went all in on an Aguero differential twice which flopped both times.

                                  Price rises isn't important to me. I havent chased a single one and have a decent transfer value as I got ahead of the curve in most cases. This is the best start I have ever made. Let's see how it goes.

                                  1. Winners900
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    The problem is people judge a season and think thats shows the skillevel of someone or use that as to prove its luck.

                                    Its like poker you play one gmw its about 100% luck, but if you play thousand after thousand gmw's is about 100% skill.

                                    Its not a coincidence that the best players in the world gets high ranking season after season. Yeah its extremely tough to finish top 1k now matter how good you are, but the point is how great you finish on average.

                                    An on average the better player finish higher than the weaker ones.

                                • brianutd-why always we? 20
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Trying to predict the future and getting it right is luck and judgment. We have no control over what happens in EPL so it’s a guessing game with predictability influencing decisions. Getting it right feels like good luck to me.

                                  1. Winners900
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Its luck in that spesific situation, but if you do the same situation over and over and over again then the person who makes the better desicion will get most points in the longterm.

                                    For example in poker lets say to players go all in before the flop with AA and 22. The math says is around 81% vs 18% for who is going to win the hand. But in that moment the one guy can be lucky and hit the 2 and win the hand.

                                    But the point is if you do that situation over and over again the one with AA will most money.

                                    Thats the same with FPL you cant control the future, but you can control the probability of you getting more points in the future. For example one captaining Kane(C) and another person captaining Smalling

                                • Amateur Pundit Zan
                                  • 13 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I used to think it was luck but then I got into the HOF top 10 and now I think it is all skill

                                • FPL Forward Thinker
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 7 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I finished 802nd two seasons ago and there was no luck involved. So call it fpl dedication - I call it fpl addiction. Too much time spend on the game: just to win my cash mini league at work. Took a step back last season (dipping in to the game once or twice a month)

                                • GENERATION X
                                  • 12 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  I can honestly say Id never underplay the importance of luck (see what I did there) 🙂

                                  If you want an example of skill v luck Id say skill would be making sure you have 11 viable FPL assets crossing that white line every gameweek. Luck will then be if one of them pulls a hamstring in the first minute or scores two own goals making brilliant attempts to clear the danger etc.

                                  This is a bad luck example, good luck could be a defender being taken off tactically on 61 and being the only clean sheet, or a dodgy assist given, lucky bench action etc. While good and bad usually tend to even out cover the season getting the rub on these sorts of 50/50s add up.

                                  All a good manager can really do is set a good stall out, play the chips sensible, watch games/stats for form players and in the main in my experience try not to take too many risks.

                                • Rhinos
                                  • 12 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Of course it's mainly luck, my PVA beat all the popular Bournemouth assets combined on Monday coz the linesman was watching Eastenders instead of the footy. Now you could argue picking and holding onto PVA was skilfull but had the linesman done his job you could also argue PVA a poor pick and AWB kicking his ass for value.
                                  Dullard managers who've held on to Liverpool assets are being smashed by the mavericks who've attacked the fixture list, does this make the mavericks more skilfull, no it just means Liverpool haven't performed fantasy wise.
                                  The fun and skilful part of fpl is debating moves and strategies, once the deadline passes it's all luck.

                                • The Non Flying Dutchman
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Joe is looking to find out if they did anything in particular different in a high rank season. Yes in many cases it may be luck. But he wont know that unless he asks.

                                  What I would really be interested in Joe asking is what strategy managers employed towards the end of there most successful season on FPL. i.e. did they rank protect or go for the highest possible finish and when did they change strategy if at all.

                                • tisza
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Higher ranks at end of season and the point gaps tend to be pretty small. Add equivalent of 1 pt per GW and you'd probably find a significant OR boost.
                                  Anyone can id the best players it's filling in the margins that take a mix of luck & skill.e.g. The defender that scores his only goal of the season when he comes into a side.
                                  Question I'm surprised not getting asked is how much time per week the top managers put into their side. Like most things more you put in the more you get out

                                • FFPro
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  By acknowledging luck it diminishing the skill factor in their achievements.

                                • Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                                  • 13 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Couldn’t agree more. There are bad seasons when you can see refusal to get in a yaya or mahrez until it was too late was the issue but difference between top 20k and top 100/1k is largely luck.

                                  I’ve finished 17th and 333rd and both times there were lots of 50/50 calls that came off for me.

                                • Desperately Seeking Dusan
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  This is a great comment. You have hit the nail on the head and highlighted a human cognitive bias that is mentioned in so many books like Thinking Fast and Slow as well as reams of academic evidence; all of us attribute our successes due to skill (not just FPL) and seldom chance. But not failures. Because it would involve consciously admitting that we are not perfect. It's a bit like the Baby Boomer generation putting wealth from home ownership down to their financial nous and hard work when in fact, the Thatcher government just sold council housing to owners at ridiculously low prices.

                                  https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/man-whose-house-has-gone-up-in-value-thinks-hes-a-brilliant-businessman-20170327124864

                                  1. Mo Mané Mo Problems
                                    • 11 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Not sure how this is related to Baby Boomers being utter scum, but it's always worth reminding anyone who has forgotten.

                                • Simon March
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Luck is a HUGE part of doing well in FPL but, thing is, nobody is interested in the comment ‘I was lucky’. You almost have to assume luck as a factor and focus on what a person did that made luck work for them (e.g. flexibility, taking more considered risks, not making early transfers, not punting on random differentials etc…). This is why I think it’s worth listening to people like Nick, Phil and Will - whether they explicitly state it or not, the advice they give illustrates how they have made luck (or probability) work for them. You can't ask for much more in FPL tbh.

                                  1. Simon March
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 14 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Should also have mentioned fixtures. Notice how many of the MTMs consider fixtures as a key consideration? Makes total sense; teams/players typically perform better in home/easier fixtures - so you'd need more luck for that same player to do well in harder/away fixtures. Another example of how these good managers get probability on their side.

                              • TAT
                                • 8 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                Is it crazy thinking about taking a -4 to get Arnie and Sterling in for Agüero and Stephens?
                                Will make a budget striker option with:
                                Salah - Hazard - Maddison - Fraser - Sterling
                                Mitrovic - Arnautovic

                              • Manimals
                                • 7 Years
                                7 years, 6 months ago

                                For this weekend which one of these three should I bench:
                                (a) Richarlison
                                (b) Mitrovic
                                (c) Maddison

                                1. Sgt Frank Drebin
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Can I have one of them in my team playing if you don't want him?

                                  1. Manimals
                                    • 7 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Haha no - I do want them all but can't fit them all in to my team!

                                2. Brosstan
                                  • 11 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Richarlison

                                  1. Manimals
                                    • 7 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    He's the one I was thinking of benching...

                                3. Typo
                                  • 12 Years
                                  7 years, 6 months ago

                                  Wow, whats your front 8? Headache week

                                  1. Manimals
                                    • 7 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Front 8 are Hazard, Sane, Lucas, Richarlison, Maddison, Aguero, Mitrovic and Arnautovic.

                                4. Pinturicchio10
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Really ridiculous decision to have to make but I'd drop Richarlison of those. Makes no sense though, all three should play.

                                    1. Manimals
                                      • 7 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      So would you drop one of Hazard, Aguero, Arnautovic, Lucas or Sane instead?!

                                      1. Pinturicchio10
                                          7 years, 6 months ago

                                          I wouldn't put myself in this position in the first place.

                                  • shawry
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 15 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    People still keen on getting Kane in and Captaining? With spurs missing key players, only having 2 days rest, could Cardiff cause an upset??

                                    Would be looking at Aguero to Kane.

                                    Got 2 FT’s and .3m ITB.

                                    Hart (Henny)

                                    Alonso - Tripps - Robbo - Doherty (WanB)

                                    Salah - Hazard - Maddison - Fraser (Ward)

                                    Aguero - Mitrovic (Ings)

                                    Cheers!

                                    1. Manimals
                                      • 7 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      I'm a Spurs fan and think every chance we will do less well v Cardiff than people think for the reasons you mentioned. Still think we'll win and Kane will very likely score, but think we'll only win by a goal or two, so Kane's returns will not be as big as expected

                                      1. Typo
                                        • 12 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Booo

                                    2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                                      • 16 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      Best to just cover it anyway. What would annoy you more

                                      2 points and a wasted transfer
                                      Or

                                      Not doing it and him getting a brace or more

                                      1. Manimals
                                        • 7 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Yeah with free transfers available I'd bring him in too.

                                  • Kuyt Hero
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 14 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Start AWB or Chilwell?

                                    1. Old Wulfrunian
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      I am starting AWB.

                                      1. Kuyt Hero
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 14 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Cheers mate

                                    2. Hart-ake
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 8 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      I've got the same dilemma this week. Going AWB for higher clean sheet potential. I reckon Everton score at Leicester...

                                    3. Kavorka
                                      • 10 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      AWB

                                  • SOTHPAW
                                    • 7 Years
                                    7 years, 6 months ago

                                    Concerned with Pelligrini’s comments about Arnie, do you think he might be rested tomorrow?

                                    1. MTPockets
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Would think not, but he's not giving much away.

                                    2. Pia06rc
                                      • 7 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      Gudmundsson or Knockaert to score more points this week?

                                      1. Typo
                                        • 12 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Gud boy

                                    3. Emiliano Sala
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      seriously, where do you guys find these pictures =))
                                      look at salah's eyes :)))) lol

                                      1. Emiliano Sala
                                        • 9 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        right hand gesture even funnier :)))

                                    4. rodog
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      Haven't got Kane or Salah. Got Aguero, Hazard and Mane.

                                      Torn between Hazard and Mane (think those are the best I can do).

                                      Is it wrong to think that at home Mane might score?

                                      Poll:

                                      A) Hazard
                                      B) Mane

                                      1. The Left Duke #3
                                        • 11 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        I'd still go Hazard even though i think Lpool will score a couple v City

                                      2. Iwantmorepointsthanks
                                        • 12 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        I switched back from Mane to Hazard, but it is a tough decision. Mane has a good record against City (albeit one red card as well).

                                    5. Flynny
                                      • 11 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      Hi....would you wildcard this in the break, or hold out?

                                      Patricio hamer
                                      Alonso trippier robbo awb peltier
                                      Salah hazard maddison richarlison stephens
                                      Kane deeney ings

                                      Thanks

                                      1. korbendallas82
                                        • 12 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        If i wildcard. Itrippier, Maddison, Richarlison, Deeney all good to get on a wc. And you have the right big hitters. Maby do Kane to Aguero for next week?

                                        1. korbendallas82
                                          • 12 Years
                                          7 years, 6 months ago

                                          Or shift robbo to TAA, to upgrade ings?

                                    6. Agger
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      I'd seriously recommend selling your Spurs assets.
                                      Lionel Messi has mentally scarred all players involved.
                                      Ben Davies wouldn't have slept a wink last night. He's feeling like a train has hit him.

                                      The destruction and chaos Messi inflicts on his victims will end careers.

                                      The best there's ever been, the best there will ever be.

                                      1. Ghost Gooner
                                        • 12 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Scary thing is that he wasn't even playing at 100% effort 😆

                                      2. Pieterke30
                                        • 9 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Ask him to marry you

                                      3. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
                                        • 8 Years
                                        7 years, 6 months ago

                                        Messi fan boys think they've seen it all with their 14 years of life. Maradona was way better.

                                        1. jtreble
                                          • 9 Years
                                          7 years, 6 months ago

                                          Nah, the skill level today is much, much higher.

                                    7. socho
                                      • 8 Years
                                      7 years, 6 months ago

                                      What happened to my star Milivojevic, how can such an amazing asset be "killed" fantasy-wise just few monthslater?

                                      1. MTPockets
                                          7 years, 6 months ago

                                          zero penalties