Pro Pundits - Az

The dangers of taking hits to chase points in FPL

“It is by testing our ideas, subjecting them to failure, that we set the stage for growth.” – Matthew Syed, Black Box Thinking

Another Gameweek passes in the Fantasy Premier League, and it’s another hit for my team.

Greyhead’s constant nods to my transfer dealings in his ‘Great and the Good‘ series keeps reminding me of my aggressive approach to this season.

Using this article as a chance to reflect on my hits, it’s quite grim reading on first glance.

A -4 to bring in Dani Ceballos (£5.3m) in Gameweek 4 was a disaster. My second hit of the season involved me chasing the points of Kevin de Bruyne (£10.2m) who was promptly benched and scored 1 point.

I managed to resist the urge for further hits until Gameweek 10, where I again took a hit to dump the underperforming Riyad Mahrez (£8.3m) for KDB… who managed just a single assist. 

In Gameweek 11, another hit, as Mason Mount (£6.8m) left my team for Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.7m), to fund a move for Jamie Vardy (£9.7m).

My most recent hit involved taking out Ricardo Pereira (£6.4m) and Hudson-Odoi for Çaglar Söyüncü (£5.0m) and James Maddison (£7.6m). It’s quite painful to see just how much the carousel has been spinning.

Hudson-Odoi has been one of a few ill-fated punts in my team this season

What’s interesting (well for me anyway!) is how I’ve been going about making the hits.

My latest was the third time I’ve made a so-called ‘sideways’ move.

To fund de Bruyne initially, I downgraded Virgil van Dijk (£6.4m) for fellow Liverpool player Joel Matip (£5.3m). After selling him for an ill-fated fling with Mahrez, I lost Mount for teammate Hudson-Odoi.

To then upgrade Hudson-Odoi, I lost Pereira for Söyüncü.  

To finally board the Vardy party, I even managed to swap Nicolas Otamendi (£5.2m), a non-playing defender, for Martin Kelly (£4.1m)… another non-playing defender.

On the whole, I think these were the right moves for my team, but in some ways, these hits felt like trading two players for one.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that all but my latest hit have got me big fat red arrows.

Looking back on these moves, it’s also made me realise that I’ve been putting too much money in defence this season.

Out of the three hits I’ve just mentioned, they all involved downgrading a defender. This is despite a normal strategy of mine being to avoid paying a premium price for defenders unless they are playing at Wing Back or have set pieces in their locker.

Alonso, when playing regularly, is a premium option I am willing to pay for

I’ve never been afraid of making a hit, and I recently watched the brilliant Meet the Manager video with Joe and Mark, where Mark talks about his own strategy.

His fear of being £0.1m or £0.2m off transfers further down the line fuels his aggression, making him more likely to take hits, and also make earlier transfers.

My most recent hit didn’t pay off this week but it’s already helped improve my team value.

Hudson-Odoi has dropped twice, while both Söyüncü and Maddison have gone up £0.2m each.

That’s a massive swing – and my team is in better shape for it.

Just because people are saying I’m taking too many hits doesn’t mean I’m likely to slow down any time soon…!

And in true Black Box style, my hits are often correcting my mistakes, such as bringing in Hudson-Odoi, who I do feel I was a little unlucky with, damn you Christian Pulisic!

Pulisic’s burst into the team has closed down Hudson-Odoi as an option

In fact, this season would probably be even worse for me if I hadn’t set about correcting mistakes in my own team.

Losing de Bruyne on the Wildcard for Mahrez was rash. It cost me four points to bring him back, but he delivered this week with a goal against Chelsea.

Not leaving an extra £0.1m in the bank for Vardy was idiotic, but my -4 to bring him in and ship Callum Wilson (£7.7m) a few weeks ago has more than paid for itself.

I have no doubt that the upgrade of Hudson-Odoi to Maddison will reap rewards soon too. He is my boy after all – despite his questionable taste in backpacks.

As people around me are getting itchy feet with players like Anthony Martial (£7.8m), Mount, and Raheem Sterling (£12.0m) – I feel like I may finally be in a pretty strong position as we head into Christmas.

I’m banking the transfer this week, and then, barring a change in Arsenal manager or a monster haul, I’ll be looking at getting rid of Pierre- Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m) and FINALLY bringing in the man they call Lord John Lundstram (£4.9m).

Yes, you read that right. I’m planning on losing last years golden boot winner to fund a move for a £4.0m defender… what a season this is.

So, while I do not have any hits planned in the near future, it seems inevitable that I will succumb to my cravings. When I do, let’s hope it comes from a position of strength, rather than to correct yet another mistake.

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841 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Boris Bodega: Holly's …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Anything worth a hit?

    Gazza - (McGovern)
    TAA - Periera - Lundstram - (Rico - Willems)
    KDB - Mané - Maddison - Pulisic - (Guendouzi)
    Vardy (C) - Jimenez - Abraham

    I have £1.6m to play with, thinking of KDB to Son? But feels very sideways.

    1. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Save as g2g

    2. Christina.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      have to get Son somehow.

      Maddi/Pereirra->Son/Soy?

      1. The Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Not for -8

      2. Boris Bodega: Holly's …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Yeah but for a -8? 😮

        1. Christina.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          obv not. but in future yes.

          1. Boris Bodega: Holly's …
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            7 months, 17 days ago

            TBH I was sort of considering doing TAA & Maddison to Chilwell and Son for -8.
            But then I came to my senses 😉

  2. DOGS
    • 2 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Have Aurier, TAA, Rico, Lund,
    Best defender. 5.4m budget?

    a- Soy
    b- Tomori
    c - other?

    1. Tshelby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      A

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Still A

    3. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      A

    4. Obamawang
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      A

  3. Reacting to good and bad decisions
    andy85wsm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    This article and my recent transfers got me thinking - how do you react to both good and bad decisions?

    Are you more likely to use a similar strategy if things go right, and ignore a strategy if it goes wrong.

    For me I've made the "value" play a few times. Removing a expensive + cheaper option to players who are more a middle of the road price.

    For example I took out Sterling and two cheap strikers to fund Jimenez and Vardy recently. That worked out, but in previous years it hasn't. I once took out Lukaku before he got points in the following game weeks, I took out Salah and Son last year and that backfired massively.

    For my own reaction I tend to try and look at whether the move was logical but it's not always easy when things have gone wrong.

    I often see people take hits, get red arrows and then decide they don't want to take hits any more and vice versa.

    How do you react to good and bad decisions in terms of future strategy?

    1. The Overthinker - I blame R…
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I take a hit. If it turns out good move, i take another hit the following week to solve another problem.

      I take a hit. If it doesn't turn out to be a good move, i take another hit the following Gameweek to improve my team

      1. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        7 months, 17 days ago

        *fistbumps*

        1. The Overthinker - I blame R…
          • 3 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          Yo.

          To many more hits

          1. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            7 months, 17 days ago

            Long live the points

            It's fun though 🙂

      2. The Overthinker - I blame R…
        • 3 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Just kidding 😀

        My last 4 hits have been for

        Gw 10
        King,son ---> Vardy , cho

        Vardy turned out to be a great love, but boy cho gave me just 1 point in 4 gw.

        Gw11
        Otamendi,cantwell ---> mendy,james

        Mendy again was a bad move, but James a good one

        Gw13
        Sterling,Hanley ---> mane,Evans

        This turned out to give instant return and will give me returns in near future too. I basically got in 2 players for 1

        Gw14
        Cho, Aubameyang ---> son, Jimenez

        Another long term move. Both nailed. Important for their team. And feels like getting in 2 for 1 player

      3. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 2 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        I take hits because I'm depressed and I'm depressed because I take hits

      4. RECKLESS
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 months, 16 days ago

        Jeez, considering you are hovering around 2million, hits surely arent way to go. I would say hits is only when you bringing player you will captain, else its just to keep us entertained in the game

        1. The Overthinker - I blame R…
          • 3 Years
          7 months, 15 days ago

          The Hits I've taken have had more of positive impact than negative.

          8/10 hits was the right thing to do.

          Re rank, most of it goes to holding on to Sterling meanwhile mane kept scoring.

          1. RECKLESS
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            7 months, 15 days ago

            Its mainly because you brought defenders from horrible defences for cheap. If you going 3 at back, least you should be doing is getting some top 6 team defenders. Also buying over priced 10mn+ player from top 6 team when at similar price you get player from title chasing team. Most of this is plain simple mistakes that can be avoided

            1. The Overthinker - I blame R…
              • 3 Years
              7 months, 15 days ago

              Agree with this.

              Was pretty stubborn with Sterling. That hurt me. Also Otamendi/Mendy.

              Anyways, now i think i am.getting there. Team looks in a great shape, 3 greens in last 4.

              1. RECKLESS
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                7 months, 15 days ago

                Good luck mate. In future always remember to get as much premium players from title contenders and value players from top 4 chasers like pulisic, martial, abraham, madison instead of auba/kane etc

    2. Boris Bodega: Holly's …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Experienced players should know to wipe the slate clean and review their team from a fresh perspective. Panicking and shipping players who have good underlying stats but aren't hitting the numbers can end up costing your team a lot of missed points.
      Taking hits to take advantage of a points haul opportunity isn't a bad strategy at all, but taking hits because you're scared you might miss out on value is a huge nono for me.

      1. The Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        It's all about the points.

      2. theodosios
        • 2 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Underlying stats won't bring you points.Keeping a player who has blank after blank after blank just because of his underlying stats is nonsense.For example, you have Kane who likes to shoot whenever he can.If he got 6-7 shots every game, and half of those shots finish in crowd, then underlying stats are useless.

        1. AuFeld
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          What are the best attributes to consider when you're looking at a player to return points?

      3. andy85wsm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        I think this is key for me, there's no point dwelling on what's already happened.

        If you've missed out on points for a player that doesn't make them a bad pick if you think they're going to continue to score points.

        I think that's a big one with Vardy right now for example.

        You could easily look at him and decide that he's not going to continue this run because he's "due" a blank. But he has the fixtures and Leicester looking great right now.

    3. Warby84
      • 4 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I very rarely save a free transfer, normally always making 1 move per week and is slowly paying off

    4. The Bad Seed
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      learning from past mistakes and modifying your approach based on current givens is the key to success.

      blindly applying past ideas that worked, or dodging past ideas that didn't, without considering the current givens, is the key to failure.

      1. RECKLESS
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 months, 16 days ago

        I learned my 2 imp lessons from last season and it continued to help even now..Never get a premium Arsenal player. Never transfer out Salah if he is playing a small side

    5. mikeycee93
      • 4 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I don't have a strategy, I just do what I think is right - one thing i have learned though is to jump on and off band wagons quick so you don't get left behind, my team value is up like 105.6 and i'm sitting 4k overall...

      I took an 8 point hit earlier in the season (GW7) to do wickham > abraham, martial > grealish & Pukki > Vardy

      I got Vardy at 8.9 and he's now worth 9.7

      I finally took out Sterling at the weekened past and was instantly rewarded with Son getting 13points.

      I use the fixture ranker a lot to help gauge who i will bring in, but if a player is in bad form get rid and if he's in good and you don't have him, get him.

      i'm really considering taking palace boys for upcoming fixtures - most likely the keeper once pope has played this weekend.

    6. jia you jia you
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      When it proves a good decision I have a few beers to celebrate and hope to do the same the following week.
      If it turns out bad, I have a few beers with a rage transfer chaser and all's great in the world again.

    7. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      It's been a wild, fast-paced season

      It's come to a point where I don't go beyond "last two matches/game weeks" when reading data in the members' area because Premier League teams are adapting so quickly that blatantly clear data from four GWs ago could change over the international break... Since everyone has analysts in their coaching staff nowadays... I think

      The best "long-term" team of GW12 is not the best long-term team of GW14, and it will be the case again by GW16

      For instance, I have a hunch that TAA would leave the template soon. Sterling's already flying away. Who would have seen that coming with Sane injured?

      I don't consider myself lucky. I constantly remind myself that any 50:50 decision I make can be wrong, so I'm willing to accept I was wrong early enough and adapt based on best available recent data

      GW5 was my biggest red arrow, from 75k to 309k. I'm back around 76k now... Not sure how long that would last

      -12 to fix my bench. Not sure if this can possibly end well, but it's fun now anyway

    8. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I think an important thing to note here is the definition of a good decision.

      A good decision is one where, if you made the same decision 1000 times, it would have a net positive effect.

      Variance means that often a good decision gives a bad result, and a bad decision gives a good result. This of course makes it very hard to evaluate accurately whether you've made a good move.

      Personally, I definitely have a habit of being "too patient" - I've kept Salah + Sterling all the way until now which has really cost me. I've finally pulled my wildcard now though to try and get some sort of fresh start.

    9. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I look at it two ways - was the logic behind the initial transfer out sound, and the logic behind the transfers in sound?

      I took Salah out a fair few weeks ago - he’s not returned scary points since. Good logic.

      Used that money to bring in Son and Aubamayang - mixed, as Spurs went off the boil. Arsenal had great fixtures but Aubameyang dried up. Good logic, unfortunate outcome.

      Similar this week. Wildcard we - took out Villa players as I have no intention of playing them any time soon.

      They returned good points, but am I worried? No. The reason out was fine, the reasons to transfer players in I will have to see how it turns out long term

      1. andy85wsm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Logic is always handy to have that's for sure!

        Do you ever find it difficult to think about the logic?

        I've also taken Salah and Sterling out the last couple of weeks and it feels okay, but had they both hauled the gameweek I took them out it would have been harder.

        1. ⓙⓚⓙⓚ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          I ditched Salah when Liverpool started playing the 'big 6' clubs. Worked out well. Just ditched Sterling and KDB last week on a wildcard, mostly due to poor form. I wonder how different I'll feel if they haul or blank in the coming weeks.

        2. The Bad Seed
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          I second that question.

          Because bringing in Auba in such a state (REGARDLESS OF FIXTURES) seems bad logic to me, especially with the other banging options available.

    10. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 5 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      No such things as good decisions and bad decisions, just good decisions and bad luck 😉

      1. GARY AND JAMIE
        • 6 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        I've seen plenty of bad decisions getting good luck in my ML...

        1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 5 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          Ah yes - for other people it is just all good luck - filthy casuals 😉

    11. Chemical76
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Keeping things simple...
      I find it useful to ask myself, "does this squad look right?"

      This especially important for initial August selection and chip useage.

      We can all get bogged down in choosing the trees but how's the forest looking?
      Can it withstand the storms ahead?

    12. Kenneth Tang
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      The best strategy is to avoid bad decisions. But when I made them, I will try to forget it, forget the red arrow, forget the OR, forget the hits I took. Everything is the past, put the focus back on how to maximize the team in future. This is my 14th season, I have plenty of experience sitting outside 1M by gw6 or outside 300k by Christmas, but a good mentality always bring me up to top 10k or even top 1k at the end.

      1. Corgzzzz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        7 months, 15 days ago

        I am a massive fan of doing things logical. I am also a man who gambles and I like a punt.....both of which are illogical

        1. Kenneth Tang
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          7 months, 15 days ago

          It's just a game, enjoy in your own way is the best strategy!

  4. gelisiguzel
    • 1 Year
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Repost

    A or B?
    a) Button--> Henderson and play BB
    B) keep it and save FT

    1.3ITB

    Gazz
    Aurier, TAA, Chilwell
    Mane, KDB, Maddison, Martial
    Vardy, Jimmy, Abraham (C)

    Subs: Button, Mount, Tomori, Lunds

    1. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      B I reckon.

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Maybe. DGWs never do what they are supposed to and this week does look like it could be a big one. On the other hand, if it does not pan out, you'll be kicking yourself in GW thirty whatever when we have the doubles and everyone else is boosting.

      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 2 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Sorry, not much help.

  5. claretparrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Best Pieters replacement?

    Will likely make the move next week as already have a benching headache.

    1. claretparrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Other defenders are:
      Soy, TAA, Tomori, Lund

    2. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Brandon William's or Reid.

      1. claretparrot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Thanks. Don't fancy a non-player going into the busy fixture schedule, but Williams is worth considering

        1. The Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          Or a SHU defender.

  6. Public user
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Tomori to Aurier -4 crazy ?

    Both side can’t defend , Aurier the new Alonso ?

    1. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Yes it is

    2. claretparrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Seems premature. May not be long before Jose pins the fullbacks in to stop shipping goals

      1. Public user
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Spurs already shipping goals with 4 def , Jose should know what happen when he asked Aurier play like wingback role with 3 def at the back .

    3. Obamawang
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I wouldn't for a hit.

    4. Public user
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Noted , thanks

    5. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      It does feel a little crazy given Tomori is playing West Ham and if they get a clean sheet we could see him get some bonus as well.

      Aurier has Man United away the week after as well.

  7. Obamawang
    • 1 Year
    7 months, 17 days ago

    A dilemma:

    Mount to Pulisic, Alli or Moura? I already have Tammy but no Spurs. How nailed is Moura?

    Thanks!

    1. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I'm thinking he is more nailed now than he was.

    2. claretparrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Tough one, but only because Alli has looked so good in his last 2 (including last night).

      If you want to make the move this week, it has to be Pulisic as he's proven his worth over a longer period and they have a great fixture.

      Not convinced by Moura yet at all

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Started 2 out of 2 so far hasn't he?

    4. OSanity
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Maybe hold and wait to see Chelsea's lineups tonight and this weekend. Mount has already dropped .1, so if you bought him early you're probably safe for a bit to see how he plays. I still think he's Chelsea's most nailed attacker next to Abraham, and good value for the money.

    5. Obamawang
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Good points; thanks. I think I'll wait to see how Chelsea line up in Europe.

  8. Weasel Boy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Surely Lucas an option now?

    1. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Absolutely.

      Lots of people looking at Mount to Pulisic, I'd fancy Mount to Moura as well.

  9. Giggs Boson
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Who would you rather have in your team, Kane or KDB?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Kaaaaaaaane. City seem a bit off.

      1. Weasel Boy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        This.

        There last few performances haven't been up to scratch

        1. Giggs Boson
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          What's City's problem recently? They've gone to crap. I suppose losing Kompany, Laporte, Sane, and Silva ageing...

    2. claretparrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Not a fair comparison, but Kane right now if money were no object

    3. Berbs
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      KDB.

      Consistency, more points avenues and more captainable.

      1. Giggs Boson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Good point about captaincy. Will have Son too.

    4. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      KDB for now.

      I mean, I'd rather have Son than both of them I think 🙂

    5. Public user
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Kane , many manc players isn’t at their best now .

    6. Tcheco
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      KDB right now.

      He has never outscored Kane in fpl though.

    7. GreennRed
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Both. But Kane if I had a choice to make.

    8. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Yes Kane.

    9. Giggs Boson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Thanks all.

    10. Shaw must go on
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      kdb,city will always score more than spurs

  10. IRBOX ⚽
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Truly is the season of the casual!

    1. Tcheco
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      We are the casuals.

    2. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I am not casual enough at the moment looking at my OR.

    3. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      If that's the case, then patience is the best strategy...

      Casuals will drop off, and certainly don't plan for blank and double gameweek....

  11. OSanity
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Pope (Button)
    TAA - Soy - Lundstram (Rico - Lascelles)
    Mane - KDB - Maddison - Martial - Mount
    Abraham - Vardy (Connolly)
    1FT, 1.7ITB

    I'm keen on moving Martial, I don't trust him nor United. Prove me wrong.

    1) Martial and Maddison -> Son & Tielemans (-4). I still need to swap Lascelles and maybe Connolly to prep for Christmas period, so would use next week's transfer to swap Connolly -> Mousset barring price rises. Hence why I'd need to take the hit before Son rises.

    2) Martial + Connolly -> Jimenez + Hayden/Fleck

    3) Better plan?

    Thanks!

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Keep Tony this week and do 1 for free next week?

      1. OSanity
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 months, 17 days ago

        I was hoping to wait, but if Son, Tielemans or Mousset rise, I'll be priced out of the lineup I'm aiming for:

        Pope (Button)
        TAA - Soy - Lund (*Cahill* Rico)
        Mane - KDB *Son* Mount- Tielemans
        Abraham - Vardy (*Mousset)

        Will Connolly still be a good bench option who gets minutes over the Christmas period? Is Mousset or Ayew necessary instead?

        I want a decent guaranteed playing defender over that period, so I cant find that for less than 4.4.

        1. The Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          Brandon Williams?

          1. OSanity
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            7 months, 17 days ago

            Is he going to be nailed with Young and Shaw looking over his shoulder though? He didn't look great against Sheffield

        2. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 2 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          Charlie Taylor (still 4.2) could be your man.

          As a pure bench option, I'd keep Connolly too as money is tight - started when fit over last couple of months (although hooked early a fair few times too).

          1. OSanity
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            7 months, 17 days ago

            True, but double Burnley defence over a rough fixture run isn't ideal. As a 4.4 defender I was eyeing up Guilbert for when Villas fixtures improve if I'm priced out of Cahill. I'll keep Connolly if need be - I just prefer Mousset or Ayew for playing time right now!

  12. Tshelby
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Any conclusion made on the move kdb -> son ( and go without city players )?

    1. Berbs
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I'm very tempted. City's fixtures aren't great and they seem a little defeated. I'm tempted to go Alli over Son though.

      1. Tshelby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Alli over Son? Always thought that Son was the go to guy for spurs in fpl.

        Still it’s scary to play without any city players

        1. Berbs
          • 9 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          Just going off the 2 games under JM - Alli looks a great differential if you're chasing in MLs.

          1. Tshelby
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            7 months, 17 days ago

            Thanks going to look into that. My current team has double pool defence and if I go without city players and Alli as differential it feels like a really risky move

    2. GreennRed
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Maybe a bit sideways. Depends on Alli, Moura, Kane returns affecting Son's FPL potential.

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I'd say do it (cue Newcastle getting smashed and Spurs losing 1-0)

      1. Tshelby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Yeah this is surely possible..

  13. Little Red Lacazette
    • 3 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Bench 1.

    A. Tomori
    B. Soy Sauce
    C. Lundstram

    1. Tcheco
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Thou shall never bench the unbencheable Lord.

      A.

    2. Tshelby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      A for me

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      A. Leicester looking mean at the back and benching Lund could always backfire. West Ham look dire, but scoring goals not necessarily the problem.

    4. theodosios
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      C

    5. jimski
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      C is probably correct, but also the most scary option.

      1. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Lundstram is not a defender. You play Lundstram, you're playing 353 for the price of a 343....

  14. Berbs
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    A) KDB -> Son/Alli
    B) KDB, Mount -> Alli, Pulisic -4
    C) Tomori, KDB, Mount -> Ward, Son, Pulisic -8
    D) Save FT

    1. Little Red Lacazette
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      D

    2. theodosios
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      A) Son

      Also my move this week

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Just A - Alli could be a good one if you are feeling punty

      1. Berbs
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        I'm chasing in my MLs so I don't think Son would make much sense - would prob have to go Alli!

    4. ResultatFar
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      D!

    5. Richard Richard (AKA: Anzhi…
      • 4 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      From your explanation - A with Alli

  15. andre_c
    • 1 Year
    7 months, 17 days ago

    I don't think there are any obvious transfers needed here. However, I do have 2 flagged players on my bench. Should I just hold?

    Pope
    Soy, TAA, Lund
    Mane (VC), KDB, Mount, Tielemans
    Vardy (C), Tammy, Jimmy

    Button, Rico, Cantwell, Janmaat

    1FT, 2.7ITB

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Hold. I'd put Rico last sub though.

    2. Riverside Red
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I've virtually the same 15...thinking of dispatching Janmaat for Pools defender

      1. andre_c
        • 1 Year
        7 months, 16 days ago

        Yeah I’m thinking of that as well

  16. Goonerly
    • 2 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Pope - Button
    VVD - Tomori - Lundstram - Soy - Fredericks
    Mané - KDB - Sterling - Tielemans - Mount
    Tammy - Vardy - Greenwood

    2 FT. 0.1 ITB

    Considering following moves:

    A) Tomori + Tielemans OUT -> Robertson + Dendoncker IN
    B) Sterling + Tielemans OUT -> Salah + Perez
    C) Fredericks OUT -> Baldock IN & bank a FT
    Or any other moves I should be doing?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      C. Plenty good enough for this week without changing 1st XI

  17. RED_ARMY
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    a) Son - Mount - Mane - KDB
    Vardy - Jimmy - Tammy

    b) Mane - KDB - Pulisic - McGinn
    Vardi - Jimmy - Kane

    1. GreennRed
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      B

    2. Tcheco
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      A

    3. jimski
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      B

    4. ResultatFar
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Has to be A)

    5. andre_c
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      a

  18. Tcheco
    • 3 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Sterling needs to deliver in the next 2. Keeping the faith 🙁

    1. Little Red Lacazette
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I am.

    2. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      GL really is time to move on

      1. Tcheco
        • 3 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Was an easy transition to Mane 2 weeks ago but it will cost me a hit now. Not ready to bring Son in yet & I'm covered in terms of in form mids elsewhere. Sigh..

  19. La vida FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Hey, think I need some help here. Please have a look and see if you have any suggestions.

    Pope, Button
    VVD, Tomori, Soyuncu, Lundstram, Montoya
    Salah, Mane, Maddison, KDB, Saka
    Vardy, Abraham, Connolly

    1FT, 0.0 ITB

    A) Save
    B) Montoya > B.Williams
    C) Salah > Son
    D) Other?

    1. ResultatFar
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Save! Having both Mane and Salah can serve you well for the next few gws

      1. The Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        This

    2. JohnRoss
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Double Liverpool mid could be gold but you can only captain one. Son for Salah and Jimi for Connolly could be better balanced I think but not for a hit

  20. OSanity
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 months, 17 days ago

    A

  21. Dr. Agabuse
    • 7 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    What is this sideways remark?
    Its only sideways to get Zouma for Tomori or Diop for Fredericks but why would it be sideways to change an attacking player, especially from different teams!?

    1. GreennRed
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      They'll probably get similar points so you'll not improve, stay same level.

  22. CelticBhoy1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Mason Mount

    Hold or sell?

    1. theodosios
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Hold

    2. ElliotJHP
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I may sell for Pulisic but hold for fixtures if not Chels I reckon

      1. CelticBhoy1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Other players that I've been looking at under 7.1; Tielemans, Perez, Moura & Willian... but I still think Mount is the best option so going to stick

    3. Wild Rover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Why would you waste a transfer selling someone who has W Ham at home? On set pieces v Roberto?

      1. CelticBhoy1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Out of form and didn't start last game

        1. Wild Rover
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 months, 17 days ago

          He's not out of form and he will start this week

    4. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Would like to have kept this week at least, but sold for Son before getting priced out.

  23. ResultatFar
    • 1 Year
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Shipping Richarlison out, but for who? I have 0.2 itb, so has to be a sub 8.1 midfielder - who would be your pick?

    Already own Maddi and Martial in that pricebracket

    1. Obamawang
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Worth a punt on Moura? I'm toying with shipping Mount out for him.

      1. ResultatFar
        • 1 Year
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Not a bad shout. But also looking towards Chelsea as they have some tasty fixtures coming up

    2. theodosios
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      8.1m sub mid??

      1. ResultatFar
        • 1 Year
        7 months, 17 days ago

        I meant below 8.1m mate, he will play every week

    3. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Grealish

    4. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      If you already looking at Chelsea then there seems to be a pretty obvious answer.

      1. ResultatFar
        • 1 Year
        7 months, 17 days ago

        I'm just worried that he isn't nailed tbh

  24. ElliotJHP
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    2FT, 0.3 ITB. Think it's either switch Sterling to Son or burn it? Could downgrade Cantwell but not sure it is worth it after the weekend.

    Pope
    Trent Lund Soy Robertson
    Mane KDB Mount Sterling
    Abraham Vardy

    Button Cantwell Rico Greenwood

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Be bold and lose Sterling. Or Cantwell down to a guaranteed 90 minute man if he is going to be nailed to the bench.

  25. Richard Richard (AKA: Anzhi…
    • 4 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Should I tap the spurs frenzy?

    A. Kdb to Son
    B. Martial to Alli/Moura
    C. Other

    Pope
    TAA Soyuncu Robbo
    Kdb Mane Martial Pulisic
    Vardy Abra Jimenez
    Button Lundstram Rico Dendo
    1m itb 0ft

    1. ElliotJHP
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I would hold personally

    2. Richard Richard (AKA: Anzhi…
      • 4 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Might wait a bit fwiw - but want a little plan

    3. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      B if for free

      1. The Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Alli

    4. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 2 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Get up in that.
      B. Moura or Alli could be great. Lucas to start, just.

  26. Dr. Agabuse
    • 7 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Its a good time for the game. Lots of Options. No template.
    Lots of fixture vs form and everything could be fifderent next week

    1. JohnRoss
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      I agree. The game has opened up recently and there are plenty of viable permutations again. Much more fun

    2. teneighty
      • 5 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      It's a fun season so far with many options getting good returns.

  27. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 months, 17 days ago

    Vardy captain this week.

    Vardy to get another manager sacked this weekend.

  28. DannyDrinkVodka
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Who is more essential for the next GW?

      A) Son
      B) Mane

      1. Long ago I drew a walrus
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Easily Mane because of ownership

      2. JohnRoss
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Mane

    • Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      PVA for GW15 anyone?

      1. Super Saints
        • 3 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        May get him for Ota but leaves me a serious benching headache and they haven't been keeping clean sheets!

    • Super Saints
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 17 days ago

      Dilva has been my worst transfer of the season, hold or -4 to Son?

      Pope
      TAA Robbo Soy Lundstram
      Mane KDB Dilva
      Vardy(c) Jimenez Abraham
      Button Mount Donkey Ota

      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 2 Years
        7 months, 17 days ago

        Bye-bye as you have KDB