Pre-Season

The best budget FPL goalkeepers for 2020/21

It is slim pickings in the budget goalkeeper category of Fantasy Premier League this season.

Ahead of the 2020/21 campaign, 31 different shot-stoppers have been priced up at £4.5m or under, but in 2019/20, just two of these scored more than 60 FPL points.

Still, in a season where there is an ominous cluster of premium midfielders priced above £10.5m, as well as some pricey forwards, the £4.5m goalkeepers could be more important than ever.

At the time of writing, three goalkeepers priced £4.5m or below have double-digit ownership, so we’ve looked at the best ones and a few to avoid at first.

£4.0m Bench Fodder

There are just seven goalkeepers in the hallowed £4.0m bracket for the start of 2020/21 and, unfortunately, only a very small selection of them look likely to get minutes this season.

Just three of these shot-stoppers registered any minutes in the Premier League last season, namely David Martin (£4.0m), Ørjan Nyland (£4.0m) and Jed Steer (£4.0m).

It would take a particularly unfortunate injury crisis for West Ham to call on Martin’s services, especially after they re-signed Darren Randolph (£4.5m) in January.

The Republic of Ireland international is now the second-in-line to Lukas Fabianski (£5.0m) at the London Stadium, after Martin and Roberto (£4.5m) struggled to impress during their fleeting appearances during 2019/20.

By contrast, the right sort of injury crisis has already happened at Villa, potentially unlocking one of Nyland or Steer as viable £4.0m options. They certainly have the best chance of anyone else at this price point.

Tom Heaton‘s (£4.5m) long-term anterior cruciate ligament issue, sustained in January, and Pepe Reina’s return to AC Milan, and likely move to Valencia has left Villa’s goalkeeper pecking order wide open.

While the former Burnley man would be first-choice if fit, the latest rumours indicate he is still a little way off match fitness, even if the Birmingham Mail did report a return to training on August 17.

In the likely even that Heaton is not ready for the start of the new campaign, and no new goalkeepers arrive at Villa Park, Dean Smith will have to pick between Nyland and Steer for his initial first-choice. Something to watch out for in any pre-season friendlies.

While Nyland played more Premier League minutes than any other currently priced £4.0m goalkeeper in 2019/20 (537), and is currently in 17.3% of teams, he did not exactly impress during Project Restart.

Meanwhile, when Heaton was first injured, Steer was the man Smith turned to instead of Nyland after he helped Villa to an impressive run of wins and clean sheets en route to the Championship play-off final in 2018/19. The only reason Steer did not feature more often last season was because he himself got injured eight minutes into deputising for Heaton and missed the rest of the campaign. Mostly recovered from that knock now, Steer could be one to consider as bench fodder in the event he features in some pre-season outings.

Last season’s go-to £4.0m option David Button (£4.0m) remains a relatively popular choice at this bracket, although is currently owned by roughly half as many as Nyland.

The Brighton man remains unlikely to start on merit but, unlike many of the other £4.0m options, it would only take an injury to one goalkeeper for him to get in the team, in this case Mat Ryan (£4.5m).

Fantasy managers are unlikely to get anywhere with Kamil Miazek (£4.0m) at Leeds or Fulham’s Fabri (£4.0m), neither one featuring for their respective clubs at all in league games last season.

Bailey Peacock-Farrell (£4.0m) is one of many understudies to Nick Pope (£5.5m), perhaps one to watch if the England international leaves the club but, since releasing Joe Hart (£4.5m), Sean Dyche has brought in Will Norris and Marc Richter as further back-up options.

Potential set-and-forgets

Ryan has emerged as a front-runner in the £4.5m department, currerntly owned by 25.5% of managers at this current stage.

When sorting goalkeepers priced at £4.5m or under by total points from 2019/20, the Brighton man comes out on top, his score of 135 comfortably ahead of the second-placed Alex McCarthy (£4.5m). 

Of these options, Ryan was top for clean sheets (nine), saves (117, compared to McCarthy’s 79) and bonus (14).

It is a mixed start to 2020/21 for the Seagulls but with save potential, there is perhaps little to be afraid of for the home matches against Chelsea and Manchester United while trips to Newcastle, Everton and Crystal Palace carry clean sheet potential too.

McCarthy is the only other £4.5m goalkeeper with more than 60 FPL points from last season and is potentially capable of outscoring Ryan in 2020/21.

Considering that Angus Gunn (£4.5m) was initially Southampton’s first-choice goalkeeper last season, McCarthy’s tally was accumulated in 28 appearances rather than Ryan.

As a result, the former Reading man averaged 3.7 points per game in 2019/20, slightly superior to the 3.5 points per game offered by Ryan.

Seven clean sheets for McCarthy worked out at 0.2 per game, the same as Ryan, while his minutes per save (31.1) was slightly worse than the Australian’s (29.2).

Like Brighton, Southampton have some of the better fixtures from a defensive perspective at the start of the season.

They face Crystal Palace, Burnley and Chelsea on the road while Spurs, West Brom and Everton are all set to come to St Mary’s between now and Gameweek 6.

We also include Heaton in this category because, if he is fit for the start of 2019/20, it is hard not to consider the Villa man in rotation with another budget option to cover the blank in Gameweek 1.

“Actually, (recovering from injury is) going really well if I’m honest. I know it’s, obviously, a difficult time, but for me, the timing of (the pandemic), sort of worked in my favour. I’d just finished the medical point of view, obviously you don’t stop getting the hands on treatment from the physios but it was just coming to a bit less at that point. I was moving into a strength phase, just as we got locked down. I’m pleased with my progress, it’s feeling good. No complaints at all. I’ve been able to maximise the time and with not a lot else to do, I’ve just been blasting the rehab. Getting down to do my gym work at 6.30 in the morning, couple of hours and I’m away.” – Tom Heaton, speaking in May 2020

Newly-Promoted £4.5m Options

As we referenced in our profile of the Leeds defence earlier this summer, there is still some uncertainty over who will hold down the number one jersey at Elland Road this season.

Kiko Casilla (£4.5m) played 36 times last season but missed the end of the campaign due to a racism ban.

Illan Meslier (£4.5m) filled his spot admirably and has since made his loan move from Lorient permanent. But until Casilla’s future at the club is confirmed, now that he has served his ban, it is hard to guarantee which goalkeeper will start for Leeds this season.

While West Bromwich Albion defensive assets have historically been useful to Fantasy managers, this latest squad may not be as reliable as those of yesteryear.

Sam Johnstone (£4.5m) is the nailed-on number one option at the Hawthorns but the Baggies only recorded 14 clean sheets en route to Championship promotion, eight short of Leeds United’s total and seven fewer than Sheffield United managed in 2018/19.

Johnstone hasn’t missed a single league game since joining the Baggies from Manchester United in July 2018.

A total of 111 saves made was 20 higher than Leeds’ two shot-stoppers managed combined but seven fewer than Fulham’s goalkeeping duo recorded.

Saves rather than clean sheets also look to be the most likely source of points for Marek Rodak (£4.5m) at Fulham. 

The Cottagers did keep 17 clean sheets in the last season but, alarmingly conceded more goals on their own soil (26) than eight other Championship clubs in 2019/20.

Despite sharing a price point with Rodak, Marcus Bettinelli (£4.5m) played just 13 of a possible 46 league matches last season before Rodak took his spot.

Big-Six Back-Ups and Potential Starters

Emiliano Martínez (£4.5m) is the most likely of the £4.5m goalkeepers at a big-six club to start between the posts in Gameweek 1.

The former Reading loanee was particularly impressive when deputising for the injured Bernd Leno (£5.0m) during Project Restart, registering more saves than anyone else, with a total of 35.

That led to three clean sheets for Arsenal between Gameweeks 30+ and 38+, the same number as Liverpool, while both clubs also conceded 12 goals. 

With plenty of encouraging signs in the Gunners’ defence ahead of 2020/21, there could be plenty of interest in Martínez if he can hold onto that starting berth. Thankfully, we will get to see a competitive Arsenal line-up in the Community Shield final later this month.

Adrián (£4.5m) remains the understudy to Alisson (£6.0m) at Liverpool so Fantasy managers will need the Brazilian to suffer another injury if a cheaper option is to open up in the Reds’ defence.

That said, the former West Ham man hardly lived up to his hype in 2019/20, scoring just 27 points across his 11 Premier League appearances last season, keeping just two clean sheets and averaging just 1.6 saves per game.

Paulo Gazzaniga (£4.5m) and Joe Hart (£4.5m) are the back-ups at Spurs and, with the latter only joining the club in the last week, bringing a wealth of experience, it is hard to know which of them would step up to the plate if Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) were to pick up an injury.

While still listed in the game, Claudio Bravo (£4.5m) is to be avoided, his red flag indicating the fact that his Manchester City contract has now expired.

Top-Half Understudies

There is very little to offer in this section of the goalkeeper pool this season.

Jonas Lössl (£4.5m) and Virgínia (£4.5m) are firmly behind Jordan Pickford (£5.0m) at Everton, while 

Danny Ward (£4.5m) is unlikely to depose Kasper Schmeichel (£5.5m) at Leicester any time soon.

The arrival of Aaron Ramsdale (£5.0m) at Sheffield United probably rules out Simon Moore (£4.5m) and Wes Foderingham (£4.5m) and Rui Patrício (£5.5m) retains a stronghold on the Wolves goalkeeper slot ahead of John Ruddy (£4.5m) and Matija Sarkic (£4.5m).

The same is also true of Randolph and Roberto at West Ham, while  Wayne Hennessey (£4.5m) started just three games last season; Vicente Guaita (£5.0m) making 35 appearances for Crystal Palace.

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  1. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi guys. Just a quick one which draft do you prefer. You can just put a 1 or 2 in the chat!
    1:
    McCarthy
    Trent, Vinagre, Justin
    Salah, Son, Auba, ASM, Ziyech,
    Werner, Mitrovic

    Button, Ferguson, Taylor, Davis

    2:
    McCarthy
    Trent, Vinagre, Justin, Dier
    Salah, Son, Auba, ASM
    Werner, Mitrovic

    Button, Ferguson, Greenwood, Davis

    1. FPL Diet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      1

    2. Jotangs
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If greenwood is the only MU player you want then 100% 1 but if you really want to save a transfer go 2.

      Imo 1 is the better lineup clearly though

      1. Will J 256
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Ok thanks guys a lot !!

        1. Flynny
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I'm on a near identical version to 2.

          It makes sense to store up greenwood on the bench. Avoid the dash for united assets gw1.

          Planning. The teams are v similar.

  2. KGFC
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    So it seems that Salah had a pretty anonymous game today.

    Does anyone follow Bundesliga here? Was this a strong Stuttgart line-up like Pools?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Or he's becoming sh.t day by day.

      Complete your statement 😉

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Could be that too. He's been pretty wasteful with chances no doubt. But he gets away with that because Pool create so many chances and he is usually in the centre of it, quite literally!

        Let's wait for Pool's next pre-season game.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Only reason to keep him 😀

          For me it's more out of fear of losing than hope of gaining anything

          1. KGFC
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Agree.

            I think to begin with Salah probably will have >100% EO.

    2. luk46
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      ye, I do... mainly starting players - yet I wouldn't put too much into it, just some friendly ting

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cool, thanks!

  3. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    do you plan to keep salah after gw 1 or swap to fernandes ?

    1. FPL Diet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Keep

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Will keep unless no other fires to fight. Not sure about salah altogether tbh

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        i really like him. just can't pass on other midfielders. but fixtures are too great long term. I need a sofa every single match !

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Same can be said about either of those two.
          Key is having at right time 🙂

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Swap

    4. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      We will see....him or Auba for Bruno or KDB

    5. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Major assumption behind that question

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        if you own him obviously

    6. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think I'm going to be going with just two heavy hitter mids at a time until my team value is considerably higher.

      So that probably means Salah and Auba are out for Bruno and KDB after GW2 and 3 respectively.

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        same as my plan. but have you seen liverpool's fixtures ?

        1. FPL Theorist
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          They don't seem that great to me until about week 10. At that point I'll try to get one back in, maybe at the expense of United.

    7. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yes keeping, likely Son to Bruno

    8. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      My plan is to ditch Salah after gw1. Yet I have Bruno on my bench atm 😉

  4. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Prices aside, who is the better player and more likely to get attacking returns for Soton...

    A. Armstrong
    B. Ward-P
    C. Redmond

    1. Coys96
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Can i add Adams to it too ?
      😉

    4. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      2 of these aren't FPL friendly despite being decent enough players, A is the answer.

    5. Jotangs
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ward prowse is on all free kicks, corners and pens and he's pretty good at all of them. Only problem is in open play he plays too deep. Would still take him over A and C anyday

    6. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think B will be great this season.

      JWP and Pereira will be the midfield gems I think

  5. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Really really hope Martinez will start in the PL. Would be a fantastic pick with his saves and Arsenal learning how to keep CS under Arteta.

    Unfortunately it's pretty unlikely. Leno's been fantastic for them and you don't drop a player like that imo. Leno in the PL and Martinez in the cups + Europa is my guess. I can see a scenario where Arteta starts Martinez in the Community Shield, everyone jumps on him and Leno starts in the PL anyways because the CS is a backup competition. Hopefully Arteta will give some clarity in the next few weeks

    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I would rather we play Martinez tbh, seems more comfortable playing out from the back and deserves to keep his spot for now

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Arsenal fan? Hope so as I have very little knowledge of Arteta, I see improvement on a lot of fronts except MF def & off

        Is he known for his playing from the back style & strategy?
        How successful has he been at other clubs with this style of play?

  6. thehodge
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Draft 876.

    Ayling and Jimenez out for Doherty and Mitro with 1.5 left to get Bruno I’m going forward.

    Starting to move away from the idea of TAA/4.5/4.5/4.5.. Doherty offers amazing consistency for 6m

    1. Ser Davos
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm on this:

      TAA - VVD - Doherty - KWP/Vinagre - Ferguson

      Flexibility, but also consistency and predictability

      1. thehodge
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Think it’s the most consistent option for long term. Was completely against it up until about 2 hours ago

        1. Ser Davos
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Understandable. I just think let's pick a team that's largely set and then transfers can be used up top

      2. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I like it. Solid, but relatively expensive. How does it impact your attacking options now and moving forward?

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’m somewhere in the middle:

      7.5 | 6.0 | 4.5 | 4.5 | 4.0

  7. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Who is leaving some cash in the bank? I am planning on leaving 0.5, just incase there is a fire which needs to be killed or perhaps an upgrade. Sometimes you end up making 2 transfers to get the desired player being short of £'s so the 0.5 comes in handy.

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      1.5 here

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Leaving .5 m

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      All my planned moves are downgrades 😛

      Werner to Martial
      Auba to KDB

      Things can change though if Pulisic gets fit I'll have to be quick getting Martial !

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I want to see you downgrade Werner to Martial lol. Would you still do it with a mofo haul vs BHA?

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yes

    4. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      At least 0.5 but would love to keep 1.0

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      1.0 at the minute

      GW2 Salah > Bruno = +1.5 = 2.5
      GW3 Auba > KDB = +0.5 = 3.0
      GW4 Mitro > Jimmy = -2.5 = 0.5

      Could take a risk & start with only 0.5 ITB, but price rises will wreck things & I've a notion/hope that at least two of Ferguson / Mitchell / Johnson are going to be viable 4.0's early on

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Bruno/KDB captaincy rotation doesn't look good for home games in the first 10 weeks. Lots of Top 6 opponents if I'm not mistaken.

  8. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    McCarthy 4
    TAA Davies Vinegar(or Saliba) Doherty 4
    Salah Auba* Greenwood Soucek 4.5
    Ings* Jimmy Mitro

    *Placeholders for Martial wk2... and KdB for wk3.
    idea is to play 4-3-3 with Soucek as a first sub

    1. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Similar to mine.

      But I can't decide on jiminez v ings v son.

      1. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Ings is the one I want, but then Bruno is the one beyond that

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Davis is too risky coz he will rotate with Sess.

      Greenwood doesnt play at GW1 and his status can change if Costa arrives at MU

  9. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ivan Cavaleiro (5.5m) is the best value player in FPL according to the RMT tool, and he scored an impressive 6.38 points per 90 minutes in the PL when at Wolves despite not nailing down a first-team spot (46 points from 677 minutes) . So isn't he a viable 4th mid option, now he's at Fulham ?

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      wasnt on my radar before but he could be a great option.
      6 goals 7 assists and nailed

    2. Jotangs
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Can't compare Fulham and wolvrs

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Only one return in his last 17 Championship matches last season which was a goal.

      I really do not even fancy Mitro but ends up in my team everytime I change it up. Now I am on Adams which for me looks like a better pick.

      Fulham along with WBA will be the whipping boys but both have decent fixtures to start with.

      Leeds have a disaster start. I do not see things ending well for them 1st half of the season.

  10. Z
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    For the 1st time....i didnt change my team 6262626 times. After fixtures i just make some ajustments...and so far, team is same. Dunno is that good or bad, but that is how it is.

    Only worry is TAA and his status in GW1....i cant aford him on the bench.

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Made*

  11. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    do you think kdb will rise in price before wolves gw 2 ?

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yeap...Bruno too for sure

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yup - Bruno too

    4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I doubt it, away fixture at Wolves no gimme.
      But maybe if Salah/Auba flop in week 1 we may see a rise, but if they get points on the board I’ll be surprised if KdB rises

  12. luk46
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    keep switching around...

    A - Vinagre + Son + Ziyech + Mitro
    B - Doherty + Greenwood + ASM + Jimmy

    could also go without Son and leave 2.5 or 3m itb to either get Martial or Bruno? Who's better value for money there?

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I have A

      1. luk46
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        easy switch to Greenwood, but no Martial/Bruno as theyre the 2 best options imo...

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I am gan of Bruno and Bruno only. Martial was great last season as MID...now its digferent story. And i ll be making transfers at GW3 (2 transfers, getting KDB and Bruno),

          1. Z
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            gan= fan

    2. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Would rather stay clear of Greenwood so A from me. It is exactly what I have gone with. I think it will be more Bruno or Rashford dilemma with Martial coming in 3rd

      1. luk46
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        really? Id rather have Martial over Rash. Plan in A is to go Greenwood anyway tho, since I cant really do Son > Bruno e.g.

  13. Stormbringer22
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Guys, I may have been overthinking this a bit too much now and I am considering something borderline stupid - going with VVD instead of TAA at least in the beginning. What do you think is better:

    A. VVD + Bruno
    B. TAA + Rashford

    Am I going mad?

    1. Azathoth
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A Deep Purple fan never goes mad.

      1. Stormbringer22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Finally someone that gets the DP reference!! 😀 That has cheered me up, but I am no close to deciding if A or B is better

        1. Azathoth
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          How many in here know DP? ( poor losers)....Anyway both a & b r very good options,neither i can choose one.

    2. keefy59
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'f you're considering Rashford take a look at last seasons stats
      Rashford 177 from 2645 mins (ok as a forward )
      Greenwood 103 from 1303 mins (also as a forward) but £2m cheaper !

      1. Stormbringer22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I don't think Greenwood can sustain this though. Utd will end up signing Sancho I reckon. Gwood doesn't appeal to me

      2. AuFeld
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Rashford's stats are a little deceiving. 17 goals, however six were from pens.

    3. keefy59
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Thinking about it again risky but you could save even more by going Roberston or VVD plus Greenwood .If you have £100m the tendancy is to spend it all on the squad (making some transfer moves difficult) rather than leaving £1m-£2m in the bank .

    4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B, because of TAA

  14. keefy59
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    There is a tactic which I use at the start of every season to good effect which I have rarely seen mentioned .
    To get a good start you want all or as many of your players to score decent points
    Generally this means forwards & midfielders to score & defenders to keep clean sheets .
    This can't happen if your forward & mids are playing against you defenders say for example Wolves attack v Sheff Utd defence g/w1
    It's taken some planning but I've come up with a team that solves this problem .for at least the first 4 gameweeks .
    McCarthy/Nyland
    TAA/Walker-Peters/Vinagre/Fernandez/Taylor
    Salah/Aub(kdb g/w3)Ziyech(Bruno g/w 2)ASM/Traore
    Ings/Mitrovic/ Davis or Brewster if loaned out .
    Please add your thoughts (and check if I've got any attack v defence conflicts !)

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Only thing I would say is that after GW 1 you have no Chelsea assets. I prefer Chelsea's first 5-6 games to United's from an attacking point of view. Have planned double Chelsea and a single United.
      Sound logic in general though

      1. keefy59
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I've thought of that one g/w 2 for Chelsea is Liv @ home so could bring them in from 3 or 4 onwards

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Chelsea from 3 makes sense imo

          They’ll have had one easy and one tough one by then - a useful snapshot of how new set up might work. Small sample better than no sample and why get them in 1 when 2 is so tough

      2. FPL Theorist
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah, I'll just own a Chelsea attacker and expect a high-scoring game against Liverpool. Trent got something like 13 points in their last game against Chelsea despite conceding 3 goals. And everyone owns Trent anyway, so if he gets 0 or 13, it hardly makes any difference to your rank.

    2. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      this tactic doesn't really make sense to, not having players that face off.
      Owning them doesnt change the outcome, like you dont play defender as your str plays them.. what happens when its a cs, or the def gets a goal or an assist.
      The results don't change just cause your players are against each other. Pick the best team you think will do well,regardless of if they might play each other.

      1. keefy59
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I will generally play my strongest team it just gives more possiblities for higher scores the key is the defence not playing against the attack/mids .I would pick a strong front 7 first then pick my defenece which would be TAA plus 2 out of 4

    3. kalshot
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Well done on the plan that is so different from the template............

      1. keefy59
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes the plan is different from the template but of the players are template which covers of the most selected players .

    4. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yes, I agree. Do not pick defenders and fwd's which are playing each other in the opening GW.

  15. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Lads, how does it look as a team and as a plan?

    Ryan / Button
    TAA, Doherty, KWP / Saliba, Vinagre
    Salah, Aubameyang, Armstrong, Soucek / Greenwood
    Werner, Jiménez / Davis

    GW2: Salah to Bruno;
    GW3: Auba to KDB.

    Use funds to upgrade defence (or Soucek) afterwards.

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Give chance to Aba and Salah and make 2 transfers at GW3

    2. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I cant look past auba.. he'll be in my team for the season barring injury.

      Maybe by gw3 after 2 blanks ill change my mind!

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Plan on capping Auba?

        1. jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Good chance for sure..

          1. KGFC
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Cool, GL mate!

  16. jason_ni
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Looking past the blank
    1) Kane & Greenwood
    2) Martial & Son

    Same price.

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      1

    2. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      2

    3. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      1

      1. jason_ni
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Lol... is that an unbiased opinion?!

        1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Yes, so long as United don’t sign Sancho

  17. Z
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    COVID status in England? Impact on PL this season?

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Allegedly improving - talk of some trials of spectators again. Give it 2 weeks and it’ll look different enough 🙁

      1. jason_ni
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I reckon there won't be fans back any time soon. There are breakouts in cities around the country and then temporary city lockdowns are put in place. Having mass gatherings will only make this worse!

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Ditto and schools going back in a couple of weeks isn’t going to do much to halt community spread.

          Trying not to be too pessimistic

        2. Nightcrawler
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Cant see fans back before christmas

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Before vaccine is more rational I suspect - that could be well into the new year and it could be a very tough late autumn/winter

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      at the mo I'd say small chance of impact on the season

      1. jason_ni
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        not sure how much to read into Scotland, but they are what 3gws in, and already I think 2 fixtures have alrwady been postponed
        But then the players were idiots going out to bars after the 1st game.

        I hope pl manages to avoid this, but wouldn't be surprised by some pp games.

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Quite a lot to ask 20 sets of professional footballers not to act like idiots for months. There’s hundreds of them

          Joffra Archer broke the bubble in the cricket and that was one fairly small bubble that was carefully monitored.

  18. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    New regime working well - got into this preseason training malarkey

    I’ve successfully managed to roll my preseason transfer today. I’ll have another look tomorrow if I can improve my side with 2FTs

    Patient that’s me

  19. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on this current pre-season draft

    McCarthy
    TAA Vinagre Dier
    Aubameyang Salah Son Armstrong Ritchie
    Werner Jiminez

    Nyland C.Taylor Ferguson Davis

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Would rather get a defender instead of Ritchie.

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Dier such a strange pick. Not going to offer much points wise. May not even be nailed.

    3. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Not sure about Ritchie or Dier.

      Otherwise pretty templatey which isn't bad tbh!

  20. KGFC
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Given that both KDB & Raz are priced the same, who are going with?

    1. KDB only
    2. Raz only
    2. Both KDB and Raz

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      2

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Ah interesting! Do you mind sharing why Raz over KDB?

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      At this point none but if I change my mind 2.

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Balsy Foo!

        Going triple United??

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          No

    3. ritzyd
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      2

  21. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Diego Dalot to Everton alert.

    https://youtu.be/937R-UNs9Ww?t=445
    This guy is usually pretty reliable, knows a lot of Tier 1 journalists and people within Manchester United - they're often on for interviews.

    Dalot has a wicked cross on him, just suspect defensively. Might be an interesting option if he nailed down a place. Not sure Ancelotti trusts 31-year-old Coleman that much.

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Would be interesting if they got Dalot and Sidibe. Could play both down the right hand side and leave Coleman as backup.

      Walcott, Iwobi, Bernard don't exactly cut it so Everton need someone down the right (and the left too tbh).

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Can't deny I'd be very interested if that happened. Not sure I can justify him over Davies though.

  22. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Why is digne 6m again after only 120 points despite playing 3000+ mins?

    Ridiculous pricing

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      One of those who FPL didn’t even bother setting a serious price for like firmino

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah they missed the trick with firmino

        Something around 8 or possibly less and that would have thrown a curveball at those already doubling up on defence

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Very harsh price compared to Doherty.

      Still tempted though... 😆

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah those fixtures are very tempting

        Fpl probably doing us a favour tho. Would have got him if he was cheaper

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Go off the previous season. 4g 5a vs 8a and 4 less CS.

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He got 158 points the season before and that resulted in a 6m price tag

        He scored 120 last year despite playing more mins how does he keep that price

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          He dropped from 6m to 5.9
          FPL know what he's capable of, just like you.

          1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Siggy on free kicks past year or so reduces his appeal, probably why he didn’t score last season

    4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah he should have been 5.5 max.
      They’ve got quite a few wrong this season, Mane and Trent spring to mind

  23. Mr. Mystic
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts?
    McCarthy
    TAA Doherty Saliba Vinagre
    Salah Auba Son ASM
    Jimi Ings
    (Stephens, Ferguson, Davis)

    1. HaffNanner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Looks good. I have the same team but with Mitro instead of ASM

    2. Robman
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Is Saliba nailed?
      No Chelsea attacking players - could be costly (says me hopefully)

      1. Mr. Mystic
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        No, but pre season will tell... he’s been given number 4 so positive signs... otherwise I’ll go for Justin.

      2. Mr. Mystic
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I’d have Pulisic, but injured. I think Werner and Ziyech are over hyped and unproven yet. So why not go for Ings/Jimi

  24. Robman
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Please can I have some advice with my team:

    McCarthy / 4.0
    TAA / Tierney / KWP / Vinagre / Lamptey
    Salah / Aura / Ziyech / Soucek / 5.5 (thinking either Naby Keita or Armstrong)
    Ings / Werner / 4.5

    I think Ings is a bargain at 8.5m, with Southampton being one of the stronger teams in second half of season. I'm also expecting Naby Keita and Stuart Armstrong to have big seasons and at 5.5 both seem excellent value. Keita should be nailed with Henderson injured and in an attacking Liverpool team could be amazing. Armstrong is sort of key to the attacking football that Southampton play. Who does the community think is best and how else can I improve my team.

    1. ritzyd
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Not sure on tierney, wait and see for me at that price. Also soucek fixtures are awful, maybe look elsewhere for first 8 weeks

      1. Robman
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I know WH fixtures look tough, so I would avoid their defenders. Soucek scored 30 goals in 75 games over last two seasons with Slavia Prague. I know the quality of league is not comparable, but for 5m he know where the goal is and is excellent at set pieces. Yes I think you're right re Kearney, but those starting Arsenal fixtures are making me eager - who would you choose in his place?

        1. ritzyd
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I do agree re. Soucek but those fixtures are really, really awful. Could easily see him being 4.8 by gw 8 just as his good run starts, personally thinking ritchie as his placeholder. For 5.5 would prefer awb or a spurs def

          1. Robman
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Originally had Dier or Davies in Tierney's place. Will reconsider thanks. I think I'm happy to have Soucek on bench in those tougher games and play 4 defenders.

    2. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      You've already got triple Saints, right? (McC/KWP/Ings)

      1. Robman
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes, would drop KWP if going with Armstrong.

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Henderson won’t be out that long and you don’t want forced transfers at that pay grade.

      I’m personally leaving Chelsea until after Liverpool. Getting them in for 1 when they have an awful 2 seems bold - they’re a completely unknown quantity - don’t see need to rush when you can easily wait. Double up a huge call

      1. Robman
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks - I thought henderson was out for a few months. Will revisit Keita and make Armstrong decision easier. Still think Keita could have a biggie this season.
        I just have a good feeling about the Chelsea double-up. Even playing Liverpool second game, could be game of many goals.

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Go for it if you feel it - really high top end. And I’m not the cautious type except when commenting on others teams 🙂

          Actually have thought about Hendo! His value last season was really good - just the colour of the shirt is the problem.

  25. Mr. Mystic
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Another tinker... thoughts?
    £1.5m ITB
    McCarthy
    TAA Doherty Egan Vinagre
    Salah Son Auba ASM
    Werner Mitro

    GW2 Son->Bruno

  26. Ser Davos
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Any soul still doing the Pool defensive treble?

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Triple defence from any team is a no go.

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Toyed with the idea this morning with Pool but Salah’s EO scared me into giving in.

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Any funnily now I only have one pool defender lol

        1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          *And

        2. Ser Davos
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          All makes sense. I suppose that eliminates Mane as an early alternative to Salah

    3. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      CHE (A) GW2.

  27. ritzyd
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Is McCarthy nailed? Seem to remember some rotation with Gunn last season??

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Gunn lost his place. McCarthy would need to do much worse than Gunn for him to get a sniff again.

  28. Pilgrim62
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts?

    McCarthy/4.0
    TAA, Doh, Aurier, Justin, 4.0
    Auba, Salah, Armstrong, Ritchie, 4.5
    Martial, Mitro, Vardy

    GW1 4-4-2
    GW2 3-4-3
    GW3 Auba to KDB/Sterling, Vardy to Timo/Jimmy or not

    Any advise?

  29. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Is Dwight Gayle nailed on now?

    I seem to remember him nailing down a place at the end of the season...

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Such a random question.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I hear that a lot. I tend to be in my own thought bubble.

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Possibly, I don’t think Newcastle have any option do they lol

    3. ritzyd
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Newc trying to buy another striker so probably wont be first choice

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks 🙂

  30. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Still set on this, any thoughts?

    McCarthy
    Trent | van Dijk | Vinagre
    Salah | Aubameyang | Son | Armstrong | Soucek
    Werner | Mitrovic

    Nyland | Ferguson | Douglas | Davis(hoping for Brewster)

    1.5m ITB.

    GW2: Son -> Bruno Fernandes
    GW3: Aubameyang -> KDB
    GW4: Douglas -> 4.5m defender

    🙂

    1. Ser Davos
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      All looks good, maybe Mitchell over Douglas

      1. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm largely the same, just swap Mitro and Doherty. Also remove one of Armstrong/Soucek

        1. Pep bites Kun
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          To whom?

          1. Ser Davos
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            A benched 4.5 mid

    2. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Since you are doubling on Pool defence and have money ITB, VVD to Robbo?

      1. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Bruno fund

      2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Then he can't do his GW2 transfer

    3. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      just curious, when do price changes start? will you have to make that switch to Bruno straight away or you can wait until after the spurs game?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Depends what day Spurs play. I'll be keeping an eye on FPL Statistics.

    4. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Getting rid of Son while you have no any other spurs assets doesn't look good.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He's a Bruno placeholder. Very happy to go without Spurs to be honest. A pre season game isn't going to influence my thoughts on them.

        1. Ser Davos
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Same

        2. The Pesci challenge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          But spurs have a good run of games at the start

    5. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why have Son for only one week when he has really good inital set of fixtures even after that? Also, not a fan of the pool defensive double up from the get go with Pool early fixtures, also defensive rhythm is lacking for most teams early on imo

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Placeholder for Bruno. Liverpool defence are set and forget picks, no players in other positions will score as many points in that price point.

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Have u looked at going with this tactic after the Wildcard? I think those Pool early fixtures arent the best defensively so could get away with not doubling up

          1. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Have you looked at backing up accusation with fact ?
            Try it. Oh how remiss, you can't.

            1. Nightcrawler
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Haha so bitter

              1. George Sillett
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Haha so factual. Again another chance for you to provide concrete evidence to endorse your claims .

    6. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why McCarthy over Pope as a set & forget season GK?

    7. NIKO.
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Looks good

    8. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      In my opinion, planning your first three transfers at a time when you want to be the most flexible is a bad idea

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Having 1.5m allows maximum flexibility to be fair.

      2. NIKO.
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Unless you play your wildcard in game week 2 I don’t think you’ve got much choice really if you want a City and United midfielder

    9. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Only difference in our current draft is VVD, 4.0 & Son vs Doherty, 4.5 & Bruno.

      If I can get a decent 4.5m def with a good GW1 fixture I'm benching Bruno instead of having Son.

    10. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Looks good.

    11. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Which LFC asset will you be taking out if Brewster is an option? Can only have 3.

    12. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      We've got very similar teams. I've got Ryan though, and Doherty, and another 4.5 from the start.

      And the major difference is I think I'll start with Bruno from the get go and play one of those 4.5 defenders GW1.

      What hurts me the most is the lack of Jimi..