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25 August 2020 1634 comments
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The arrival of Nathan Aké (£5.5m) at Manchester City could improve the club’s defensive prospects in 2020/21.

Pep Guardiola’s men were missing consistency and strength in depth at centre-back last season but Aké can be stabling influence this time around.

We have assessed the former Bournemouth defender’s credentials ahead of the new campaign, what impact he will have on the City defence and whether or not that can make him a viable Fantasy Premier League asset.

As we have used Opta data, only those with a valid Fantasy Football Scout subscription can access this article in full.

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  1. Agger
    6 years, 1 month ago

    I’ve been asking on here for years in a hypothetical sense how much Messi would cost on FPL..

    But this time is different, how much would he be?

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      6 years, 1 month ago

      13m+

      1. Agger
        6 years, 1 month ago

        And his ownership? %

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          6 years, 1 month ago

          most owned player in my opinion. Who actually won't own messi?

          1. Andy_Social
            6 years, 1 month ago

            Me, probably. He'll be priced to deter mass ownership, forcing those who get him to destroy the rest of their squad.

          2. Gomolon
            6 years, 1 month ago

            I was wondering before who the most owned FPL player ever has been, because surely Messi would set the new record

      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        6 years, 1 month ago

        messi first time in the PL, 13m+ is minimum

        I hope he is 14

        1. Gomolon
          6 years, 1 month ago

          They always undervalue new arrivals to the league a bit to get people interested, I'm hoping for sub 10m 😉

    2. Agger
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Top assister be top scorer without a doubt if he’s playing under Pep at City.. Messi is too good

    3. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      I think (though I might be wrong) that RVP was 14m at one point. So you would imagine Messi would be that too.

    4. ☈☾
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Messi should be 10m - not proven in PL

    5. NULL-X-VOID
      6 years, 1 month ago

      who had highest debut season price? Zlatan right, if I'm not wrong

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Great question - I think you are right.

    6. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Positioned as mid or fwd?

      1. Gomolon
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Zlatan was a forward I think

        1. NULL-X-VOID
          6 years, 1 month ago

          yep, honestly I still remember that first season of Utd Zlatan, what a lad!!

      2. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Messi I mean

  2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    6 years, 1 month ago

    I bet Man City will announce Messi the minute I feel done tinkering with my team.

  3. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Imagining a world where City sign Messi, how much would FPL have to price him at before he wasn't in your team?

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      6 years, 1 month ago

      14.5m

    2. Gomolon
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Honestly, I don't think there is a price. I want to be able to say I had Lionel Messi in my FPL team

    3. Andre W
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Even at 15m+ I feel the majority of teams would still own him

  4. Z
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Forget about Messi......

  5. jam sandwich
    6 years, 1 month ago

    RMT

    Ryan - Nyland
    TAA - Vinagre - Saliba - Dallas - Ferguson
    Salah - Aubameyang - Son - Soucek - Bissouma
    Werner - Ings - Mitrovic

    1. FPL Pillars
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Needs Messi

      1. Slitherene
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Have an upvote!

    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Vinagre - Saliba - Ferguson are not nailed
      Saliba may be close
      Stay fluid on the 4,5 Dmen and it looks ok

    3. UnluckyXI
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty much my team except I've got greenwood, tierney & ASM over son, Saliba & soucek.

  6. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone picking up Lascelles as their 4.5 now he's back playing?

    Rotates nicely with Burnley/Palace from memory.

    1. Galza
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe, depending on Vinagre.

      Also keeping an eye on Krafths minutes during preseason.

    2. RamaLangaDingDong
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Has anyone put out the rotation pairs options yet or is that an upcoming article...?

  7. ☈☾
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Apart from City, where would he go?

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      6 years, 1 month ago

      West Ham

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 1 month ago

        That would be the ultimate quandary for fpl managers. The Goat under David Moyes.

        Wouldn't get ahead of Antonio of course....

      2. Don Van Vliet
        6 years, 1 month ago

        He's coming to look after and groom Lanzini now that Pablo has left.

    2. Davido989
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Only City or PSG capable of pulling this off.

      1. Gomolon
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, realistically those are the options - so who does he like more, Neymar or Pep??

    3. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      I've seen Inter mentioned

      1. ☈☾
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Inter Miami??

    4. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Psg could afford. He could dump his career and go Stateside or China.
      But PL seems more likely.

      There's always Real....

    5. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      China
      Escape Spain's taxes and/or Manchester's crap winters

    6. Gomolon
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Chelsea are doing loads of business in the window and seem unperturbed by Covid lol

    7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      6 years, 1 month ago

      stoke

  8. OldBenKenobi
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Harry Maguire has been found guilty of aggravated assault, resisting arrest, and repeated attempts of bribery.

    Bruno Fernandes has flown to Greece to take the penalty.

    😆

    1. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      If ManU couldn’t make him part of a credible defence, what chance did his lawyers have?

      *courtesy of Newsthump*

      1. OldBenKenobi
        6 years, 1 month ago

        😆

  9. Agger
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Imagine humiliating teams like Man United under Fergie, Arsenal under Wenger, Man City under Pep etc, and still have people say Messi would struggle against the average teams in the bottom 14 of the league!
    If Salah can score 30 goals with ease I’m pretty sure Messi can do better! Pretty logical

    1. Davido989
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Who in their right mind doesn't think he's the best itw? Nobody like him

      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Give him a couple of Luiz dive ins and he will slow down
        I think gaffers call it "Give him the Shawcross method"

    2. NULL-X-VOID
      6 years, 1 month ago

      It's just a mentality people have in order to justify that something greats cannot actually be that great, and they do it by putting conditions on it, "he wouldn't perform in this league, not a big game player"

      Given his age might play a huge factor in his overall form, but I'm sure he'll make a huge impact

    3. SADIO SANÉ
      6 years, 1 month ago

      I'd like to see what he does playing for Burnley

    4. Flaming Flamingo
      6 years, 1 month ago

      16 goals, 3 assists and 2 pens won in his last 11 starts against English teams. Only Vardy and Aguero have scored more goals against the top 6 in the past decade as well IIRC.

  10. NULL-X-VOID
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Guys, anyone knows who's had the highest debut season price in FPL?

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      heskey 14.0

      1. NULL-X-VOID
        6 years, 1 month ago

        damn

  11. Phlajo
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Bad idea to just plan for a -4 into GW2?

    Could be Auba+Madison to Greenwood and KdB

    Gives this
    McCarthy 4.0
    TAA VVD Doherty Pieters 4.0
    Salah KdB Son Ziyech Greenwood
    Mitro 4.5 4.5

    1. UnluckyXI
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Wait the week for the extra transfer, auba is at home to west game so wouldn't want rid of him till the week after which is lpool.

  12. Gomolon
    6 years, 1 month ago

    If Messi signs for Man City we may finally have our long-awaited solution to Pep Roulette 😀

    1. Andy_Social
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Poor Phil 🙁

    2. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      It's going to make captaincy bizarre too. Everyone will be petrified of betting against him.
      EO will be permanently 170%

  13. ☈☾
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Chelsea regretting spending 200m now.. could've won the league by signing the GOAT

    1. Silecro
      6 years, 1 month ago

      There's still time, they may still sign him

    2. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Don’t want him, would only hamper the talent we have coming through

      1. Threat Level Midnight
        6 years, 1 month ago

        LOL imagine actually believing this. Diluted

        1. NULL-X-VOID
          6 years, 1 month ago

          tbh it's right, Frank is investing a lot of transfer budget on young talent and is going for Silva's experience, Chelsea would still be an amazing team without Messi this season, especially with all the attacking threat on board

          1. Threat Level Midnight
            6 years, 1 month ago

            They have played a total of 0 games together yet you're calling them amazing. If you think passing on Messi is the right move I cannot help you.

    3. Threat Level Midnight
      6 years, 1 month ago

      CR7 is available?

    4. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      6 years, 1 month ago

      I don’t believe a transfer fee is required?

    5. Gomolon
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Nahh we just buy Messi anyway, and pay the 10m fine a few years down the road like Man City lol

  14. OldBenKenobi
    6 years, 1 month ago

    You better keep 2 mill itb for Auba > Messi in GW3 😆

  15. ☈☾
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Damn 500k Tweets - Messi is trending

  16. Threat Level Midnight
    6 years, 1 month ago

    How do I add a grav on here? Just need one serious response outside of expected sarcasm

    1. Davido989
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Gravatar.com
      Use same email as you do here
      Rate image as G

    2. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      go to gravatar.com

  17. ☈☾
    6 years, 1 month ago

    And the rumours have started. Messi to United

    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      With Lundstrum behind him SU will be unstoppable

    2. Gomolon
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Bamford finally got some coverage on the bench for Cup games

  18. NULL-X-VOID
    6 years, 1 month ago

    honestly the guy's the reason I got into Football, but tbh Messi signing is going to mess my draft up

  19. RAFA THE GAFFA
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Messi in the Prem would basically remove the Captain part of FPL

    1. Silecro
      6 years, 1 month ago

      I wouldn't captain him vs Wolves away

      1. Gomolon
        6 years, 1 month ago

        You wouldn't be able to, he's going to sign *for* Wolves

        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          6 years, 1 month ago

          Lol

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 1 month ago

        True 😀 or Sheff Utd away

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Would ruin FPL

  20. ☈☾
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Swap Pogba for Messi?

    Yay or nay?

    1. Bushwhacker
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Nay. Sell Pogba, buy Messi, bank the cash. He’s 34 you’re getting a year or two tops.

      1. Gomolon
        6 years, 1 month ago

        If you're buying Messi the release clause is €600m. How much cash are you planning on banking after selling Pogba and buying Messi

  21. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Not a draft, more of a structure - 5-4-1:

    - 4.0 as the 5th defender, 4.5 mid off the bench if no show
    - 3 big hitters in midfield
    - 3 premium defenders
    - 1 premium (most expensive) striker

    4.5 | 4.0
    7.5 | 6.5 | 6.0 | 4.5 | 4.0
    12.0 | 11.5 | 10.5 | 5.0 | 4.5
    10.5 | 4.5 | 4.5

    Main weaknesses are no mid priced mids and 2 x 4.5 strikers, which may not be much of an issue if Brewster gets a loan to another prem club.

    Food for thought.

    1. ☈☾
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Go back to 4-5-1 and get Messi

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Done

    2. Shaw must go on
      6 years, 1 month ago

      i think you should spread the money in a more balanced way..

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed, just giving an alternative realistic option

  22. @persecuted_by_mods
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Messi last season having missed 2 months with a bad injury and playing for a Barca on their last legs, 25 goals and 21 assists

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Against the local kickaround talent league.

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Who are the Europa League champs? Which country has dominated Europe for the last 10+ years? Including international tournaments

        Sleep please

        1. Threat Level Midnight
          6 years, 1 month ago

          Yikes I feel for your missus dearly.

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
            6 years, 1 month ago

            Go back to asking questions about how to get a grav

        2. Bushwhacker
          6 years, 1 month ago

          Sevilla’s story in the Europa is unique ; doesn’t stop La Liga being totally left behind on the World stage.

          1. Threat Level Midnight
            6 years, 1 month ago

            Not worth debating--hes clueless. Lol

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
              6 years, 1 month ago

              Coming from you that's rich

          2. @persecuted_by_mods
            6 years, 1 month ago

            I mean it's not like this was Messi's first great year is it? When the league won absolutely everything he still was posting insane numbers

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
      6 years, 1 month ago

      That's 25 goals and 21 assists in 33 games in an awful team after recovering from injury

  23. FOO FIGHTER
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Maybe Barca and Messi will kiss and make up?

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Spains taxes

    2. Flaming Flamingo
      6 years, 1 month ago

      If Barto leaves, I have no doubt Messi would stay.

  24. Nomar
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Looks like Palace are going to get Eze.

    Brilliant signing for them, if it happens, and reliable sources now reporting that their offer is accepted.

    Us QPR fans may need a few days to grieve once he’s gone.

    1. ☈☾
      6 years, 1 month ago

      How is he like? Is he good?

      1. Nomar
        6 years, 1 month ago

        See for yourself.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QEoT8L28g

        Absolute Rolls Royce of a player. Palace improved Zaha, I think Eze has more natural talent.

    2. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Damn.... Hope not. Shame if he doesn't stay for 1 more season.

    3. Moderately content penguin
      6 years, 1 month ago

      The itk on Palace forum has been saying it’s been done for a bit. He’s equally confident Fraser is coming too

      Not sure Eze starts any time soon

  25. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Real football... We'd all love Messi in the PL.
    With fpl manager hats on... Would you want it to happen?

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Yes! More chaos!

    2. Qaiss
      6 years, 1 month ago

      No, 60%+ ownership and 200 EO+ each week

    3. Davido989
      6 years, 1 month ago

      As a football fan, absolutely
      As a FPL manager, no

      He'd be the highest owned player in the history of the game and you may as well remove captaincy

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Great - thought it was just me being sour!

    4. NULL-X-VOID
      6 years, 1 month ago

      nah, I'm terrified.

    5. Gomolon
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Even though I would love to have him in my team, so would literally *everybody* else. Unless injured/rotated, no other captains likely unless a big heavy hitter is on amazing form against a dross team. Would make FPL a bit more boring in that sense, as well as reduce everyboy's overall budget :/

    6. Miguel Sanchez
      6 years, 1 month ago

      No - his ownership levels would ruin the game

      1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 1 month ago

        This.

    7. Ole's at the wheel
      6 years, 1 month ago

      He's no CR7 tho. Messi would be overpriced at 12mil. Enough fapping I say.

    1. Gomolon
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Thought so! So it's do a Gareth Bale for a year, then go to Man City on a free ?

    2. NULL-X-VOID
      6 years, 1 month ago

      they just want the money, Koeman has already made it clear through his moves, he won't structuring the team around Messi, and Suarez has clearly been shown the boot

  26. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Too bad Stoke play in championship so we won’t find out whether he can make it on a cold rainy night there 🙁

    1. Bushwhacker
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Cups!

      1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        6 years, 1 month ago

        True