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There’s one more Double Gameweek 20 match to go and it’s a big one.

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur is the fixture in question, with kick-off at the Etihad Stadium set for 20:00 GMT.

Four Man City assets boast double-digit ownerships in the top 10k, but two of them aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s starting XI tonight. It’s Ederson and the heavily captained Erling Haaland who get the nod, with Joao Cancelo and Kevin De Bruyne on the bench.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola makes five changes overall from Saturday’s defeat at Old Trafford: Kyle Walker, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and Phil Foden are replaced by John Stones, Rico Lewis, Ilkay Gundogan, Jack Grealish and Julian Alvarez.

Antonio Conte, meanwhile, makes four alterations after losing 2-0 at home to Arsenal, with Ben Davies, Emerson Royal, Ivan Perisic and Rodrigo Bentancur coming in for Clement Lenglet, Matt Doherty, Ryan Sessegnon and Pape Sarr.

Harry Kane – who has scored three of his four goals against Man City in all competitions at the Etihad – leads the line, flanked by Dejan Kulusevski and Son Heung-min.

GAMEWEEK 20 LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Stones, Akanji, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, Grealish, Mahrez, Alvarez, Haaland

Subs: Ortega, Laporte, Walker, Phillips, Dias, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Foden

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Romero, Dier, Davies, Royal, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Perisic, Kulusevski, Son, Kane

Subs: Forster, Sanchez, Doherty, Sessegnon, Tanganga, Sarr, Lenglet, Bissouma, Richarlison

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  1. JT11fc
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Wheres my Ederson assist....

  2. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    How are you feeling Haaland TCs?

    1. Red Star Toro
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Awful, how are we supposed to?

    2. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Having Mahrez has softened the blow somewhat.

    3. Londongeezaa
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      It’s a fail. No doubt there.

    4. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      See below

    5. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Only 8 pts up on the ones who cap him, depends on other others t/c picks down the line

    6. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not great but it's a terrible chip, so not that bothered.

    7. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      About 5 points down on average I reckon. Not great but not the end of the world either

    8. Yozzer
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      What are you expecting from the TC chip ?it's certainly not great but it's not a total fail either

    9. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Didn't use the chip. But in the grand scheme of things, it will probably wash through about the same as benching a Bueno clean sheet. Value of the chip completely blown out of proportion unless you can nail a differential.

  3. Red Star Toro
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    At least no ederson assist

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yet

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Should be given by the rules?

  4. Begbie.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Wow, the rare sighted application of common sense in FPL towers.

  5. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    No assist for Ederson is bad there.

    Lenglet never truly intercepted it.

    1. Kodap
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Give over, absolutely no way that's an assist.

      1. Silver_and_Gold
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Kane's assist even softer, imo

    2. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      He had enough of a touch.

      Intended target is a nonsense cop out.

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        But thems the rules?

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      yeah obviously ederson is apparently blind and was passing to no one, ridiculous

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        We know he can place a ball anywhere?

  6. Londongeezaa
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Fantasy aside, how an earth do Spurs explain this scoreline?

    Conte job under threat surely.

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Don't think Conte will be too worried about moving on with what else is going on in his life lately.

  7. Gizzachance
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Thinking Kulu to saka/odegaard gw 22 v eve, then dgw 23
    Would you do it this week, or wait as tot play Fulham?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I’m waiting until after fulham

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Smae

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      kulu was spurs' best player today, think keep

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers, will do an save transfers for gw 22

    3. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I’d keep

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers, my thoughts to

  8. sminkypinky
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Under a century with the TC chip has got to be considered a failure every time. Meh… could’ve been worse.

    1. Londongeezaa
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I think TC points are to be taken in isolation.

      It wasn’t a successful use of the chip for those that played it.

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed but the two often go hand in hand.

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Interesting way to judge success of the chip!

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        In hindsight bit silly tbh. Better put above by geeza

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          It’s really not that bad. Most chips are overrated. 13 points is average for TC I reckon

  9. F4L
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    lenglet never had control of the ball, how has ederson not got that assist? bs

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Surely will be added that’s insane

    2. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      This.

      Kanes A was given

  10. fantasist
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    KdB owners.. keep or sell for next game vs Wolves?

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'm gonna sell for Mahrez but it's an easy keep otherwise. He'll definitely play.

      1. fantasist
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Will he start? I'm not sure

        1. Begbie.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          KDB? Surely he will. He's still their best player and he'll be well rested after his benching tonight.

          Just can't see him being benched two games in a row.

      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        You'll regret chasing Mahrez. He'll be on the bench next game

        1. Begbie.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Meh. The reason I got KDB instead of Mahrez for this DGW was that I listened to the folk on here who said Mahrez will only play one game of the DGW and KDB will play both so...

          If I regret it then so be it. I'll take it on the chin. I'd rather have an exciting goal threat in my team than an overpriced blank merchant.

          1. Pat Bonner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Make your own decisions then

          2. Granville
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            9 years of playing and your blaming others for your decision and then falling into the same old trap.

    2. BeaversWithAttitude
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not selling him, period.

    3. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      See if he has an issue.

    4. No Kane No Gain
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      (C)

    5. sulldaddy
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep. Pretty much guaranteed to play.
      Wondering who to sell for a Brighton asset..

      That felt weird to type

      1. Begbie.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Almiron to Mitoma/March is so tempting...

  11. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Mahrez trap nicely set for new owners about to bring him in 😉

    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      The other challenge is whether Mahrez owners should bank the points and move him on

  12. JBG
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Can't believe Rash C actually worked, was concerned when he blanked last night.

  13. FantasyClub
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    What’s the injury to Rico Lewis?
    Was set on getting rid of Walker but now looks like a hold…

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Didn't look serious. He didn't get any treatment and walked off to the dugout instead of going up the tunnel. Probably cramp.

  14. Lallana_
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Felt like Spurs played for 5 minutes then chilled the rest.

    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Son has regressed so much it’s weird

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Like playing with 10men

  15. CheesyZoot
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Bring on GW21 I say…. 20 felt never ending and a slog from start to finish

  16. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Spurs get battered everywhere they go

  17. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    118 (-4)

    Yes it’s a big brag, had a terrible season.

    God knows how I sell Mahrez now

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Why would you sell Mahrez lol?

      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Can’t see 3 games for him in a week. 64 hours till they play again

        1. jacob1989
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Keeping Mahrez till CL starts

        2. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I think Foden, KDB, Bilva all start the next one.

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Excellent gameweek for you, congrats. Haven’t experienced a feeling like that in fpl for a long while now

      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I’ve had a woeful season. Miles back. But Bruno and Mahrez doing that feels amazing

    3. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      As an owner cant see how he starts v Wolves after 180 straight

    4. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Well played

    5. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Well done!

    6. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Well done mate! Great score.

    7. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Marvelous!

    8. Lallana_
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I like a brag, good to enjoy FPL and share it

  18. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    94 Pittsburgh with 26 on the bench!!!

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Points*

  19. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    All out for 96 on my FH. Got to be happy with that.

  20. putana
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I have no interest in guess the City lineup game anymore. Getting rid of kdb

    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      He’s my captain vs wolves

  21. Not again Shirley
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Tempted by Rodrigo for this weekend. Only issue I guess is whether Bam back. Even if he is, he will start on bench.

  22. Sergio Giorgini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Happens a few times per season (if lucky) - one of your punts that hardly anyone has pays off handsomely. Tonight is that night for me with Mahrez

  23. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Only 8pts from Haaland. TCers can't be happy with that.

    1. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Nope, it's a TC fail.

    2. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      TCs can get you 3 points

    3. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      5 points down on average I reckon. Not great but not seasoned defining

    4. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Was a weird Twitter/ follow the content streamers decision for a lot.

      Serious FOMO from most

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Haaland in a double he played 2x90mins isn’t that daft an idea is it

      2. GENERATION X
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        We got virtually 180 mins, let the CL rotation roll

  24. Qaiss
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Someone should check if Lloris has a betting account, my word…

    1. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Has some shares in a few Chinese snooker players

  25. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    So you're telling me that Mahrez wasn't a trap after all?

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not this week. He is now.

  26. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Was Son just an over performer on stats basis?

    This season has been a complete write off for him so far

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      He actually needs dropping. Play Kulu and Rich, might give him a push

    2. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      He did overperfom his xG if I remember correctly last season, but he still looked good overall. This season he's been just bad in general.

  27. sminkypinky
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Let’s see some great scores! (To make me feel even worse) 😀

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      69

      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Dunno if that's good or not

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Seemingly not.

          1. sminkypinky
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah not that great. Not bad either.

        2. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I’m afraid it isn’t

          1. Mr. O'Connell
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            I'm used it to by now

    2. Digital-Real
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      120

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Wow!

    3. Sergio Giorgini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      95(-4) - Mahrez + Kepa with 29 of those

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Bold. Love it!

    4. Steve Stiffler
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      85 and still feeling not great. Mitrovic and Stones is sickening

    5. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      83 and up to 61k...will take it.

    6. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      87

    7. dabber7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      100 (-4). Rashford TC.

    8. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Well done you lot! Happy for you.

    9. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      95 but TC used on Haaland and also took Kepa out for a hit for DeGea, so that would have been 9 points extra and the ton hit arghhh

  28. Dunk and Disorderly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    The Ederson assist hasn’t been given. Don’t know why.

  29. g40steve
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Rash C matches Hauland TC the real winner

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Beautiful

  30. Deulofail
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Have Chelsea signed Trossard yet?