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There’s one more Double Gameweek 20 match to go and it’s a big one.

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur is the fixture in question, with kick-off at the Etihad Stadium set for 20:00 GMT.

Four Man City assets boast double-digit ownerships in the top 10k, but two of them aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s starting XI tonight. It’s Ederson and the heavily captained Erling Haaland who get the nod, with Joao Cancelo and Kevin De Bruyne on the bench.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola makes five changes overall from Saturday’s defeat at Old Trafford: Kyle Walker, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and Phil Foden are replaced by John Stones, Rico Lewis, Ilkay Gundogan, Jack Grealish and Julian Alvarez.

Antonio Conte, meanwhile, makes four alterations after losing 2-0 at home to Arsenal, with Ben Davies, Emerson Royal, Ivan Perisic and Rodrigo Bentancur coming in for Clement Lenglet, Matt Doherty, Ryan Sessegnon and Pape Sarr.

Harry Kane – who has scored three of his four goals against Man City in all competitions at the Etihad – leads the line, flanked by Dejan Kulusevski and Son Heung-min.

GAMEWEEK 20 LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Stones, Akanji, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, Grealish, Mahrez, Alvarez, Haaland

Subs: Ortega, Laporte, Walker, Phillips, Dias, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Foden

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Romero, Dier, Davies, Royal, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Perisic, Kulusevski, Son, Kane

Subs: Forster, Sanchez, Doherty, Sessegnon, Tanganga, Sarr, Lenglet, Bissouma, Richarlison

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  1. JT11fc
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Wheres my Ederson assist....

  2. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    How are you feeling Haaland TCs?

    1. Red Star Toro
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Awful, how are we supposed to?

    2. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Having Mahrez has softened the blow somewhat.

    3. Londongeezaa
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      It’s a fail. No doubt there.

    4. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      See below

    5. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Only 8 pts up on the ones who cap him, depends on other others t/c picks down the line

    6. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Not great but it's a terrible chip, so not that bothered.

    7. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      About 5 points down on average I reckon. Not great but not the end of the world either

    8. Yozzer
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      What are you expecting from the TC chip ?it's certainly not great but it's not a total fail either

    9. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Didn't use the chip. But in the grand scheme of things, it will probably wash through about the same as benching a Bueno clean sheet. Value of the chip completely blown out of proportion unless you can nail a differential.

  3. Red Star Toro
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    At least no ederson assist

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yet

      1. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Should be given by the rules?

  4. Begbie.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Wow, the rare sighted application of common sense in FPL towers.

  5. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    No assist for Ederson is bad there.

    Lenglet never truly intercepted it.

    1. Kodap
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Give over, absolutely no way that's an assist.

      1. Silver_and_Gold
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Kane's assist even softer, imo

    2. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He had enough of a touch.

      Intended target is a nonsense cop out.

      1. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        But thems the rules?

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      yeah obviously ederson is apparently blind and was passing to no one, ridiculous

      1. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        We know he can place a ball anywhere?

  6. Londongeezaa
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Fantasy aside, how an earth do Spurs explain this scoreline?

    Conte job under threat surely.

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Don't think Conte will be too worried about moving on with what else is going on in his life lately.

  7. Gizzachance
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Thinking Kulu to saka/odegaard gw 22 v eve, then dgw 23
    Would you do it this week, or wait as tot play Fulham?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’m waiting until after fulham

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Smae

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      kulu was spurs' best player today, think keep

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers, will do an save transfers for gw 22

    3. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’d keep

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers, my thoughts to

  8. sminkypinky
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Under a century with the TC chip has got to be considered a failure every time. Meh… could’ve been worse.

    1. Londongeezaa
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I think TC points are to be taken in isolation.

      It wasn’t a successful use of the chip for those that played it.

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Agreed but the two often go hand in hand.

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Interesting way to judge success of the chip!

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        In hindsight bit silly tbh. Better put above by geeza

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          It’s really not that bad. Most chips are overrated. 13 points is average for TC I reckon

  9. F4L
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    lenglet never had control of the ball, how has ederson not got that assist? bs

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Surely will be added that’s insane

    2. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      This.

      Kanes A was given

  10. fantasist
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    KdB owners.. keep or sell for next game vs Wolves?

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I'm gonna sell for Mahrez but it's an easy keep otherwise. He'll definitely play.

      1. fantasist
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Will he start? I'm not sure

        1. Begbie.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          KDB? Surely he will. He's still their best player and he'll be well rested after his benching tonight.

          Just can't see him being benched two games in a row.

      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        You'll regret chasing Mahrez. He'll be on the bench next game

        1. Begbie.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Meh. The reason I got KDB instead of Mahrez for this DGW was that I listened to the folk on here who said Mahrez will only play one game of the DGW and KDB will play both so...

          If I regret it then so be it. I'll take it on the chin. I'd rather have an exciting goal threat in my team than an overpriced blank merchant.

          1. Pat Bonner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Make your own decisions then

          2. Granville
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            9 years of playing and your blaming others for your decision and then falling into the same old trap.

    2. BeaversWithAttitude
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Not selling him, period.

    3. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      See if he has an issue.

    4. No Kane No Gain
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      (C)

    5. sulldaddy
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Keep. Pretty much guaranteed to play.
      Wondering who to sell for a Brighton asset..

      That felt weird to type

      1. Begbie.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Almiron to Mitoma/March is so tempting...

  11. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Mahrez trap nicely set for new owners about to bring him in 😉

    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      The other challenge is whether Mahrez owners should bank the points and move him on

  12. JBG
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Can't believe Rash C actually worked, was concerned when he blanked last night.

  13. FantasyClub
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    What’s the injury to Rico Lewis?
    Was set on getting rid of Walker but now looks like a hold…

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Didn't look serious. He didn't get any treatment and walked off to the dugout instead of going up the tunnel. Probably cramp.

  14. Lallana_
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Felt like Spurs played for 5 minutes then chilled the rest.

    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Son has regressed so much it’s weird

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Like playing with 10men

  15. CheesyZoot
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Bring on GW21 I say…. 20 felt never ending and a slog from start to finish

  16. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Spurs get battered everywhere they go

  17. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    118 (-4)

    Yes it’s a big brag, had a terrible season.

    God knows how I sell Mahrez now

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Why would you sell Mahrez lol?

      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Can’t see 3 games for him in a week. 64 hours till they play again

        1. jacob1989
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Keeping Mahrez till CL starts

        2. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I think Foden, KDB, Bilva all start the next one.

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Excellent gameweek for you, congrats. Haven’t experienced a feeling like that in fpl for a long while now

      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I’ve had a woeful season. Miles back. But Bruno and Mahrez doing that feels amazing

    3. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      As an owner cant see how he starts v Wolves after 180 straight

    4. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Well played

    5. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Well done!

    6. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Well done mate! Great score.

    7. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Marvelous!

    8. Lallana_
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I like a brag, good to enjoy FPL and share it

  18. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    94 Pittsburgh with 26 on the bench!!!

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Points*

  19. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    All out for 96 on my FH. Got to be happy with that.

  20. putana
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    I have no interest in guess the City lineup game anymore. Getting rid of kdb

    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He’s my captain vs wolves

  21. Not again Shirley
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Tempted by Rodrigo for this weekend. Only issue I guess is whether Bam back. Even if he is, he will start on bench.

  22. Sergio Giorgini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Happens a few times per season (if lucky) - one of your punts that hardly anyone has pays off handsomely. Tonight is that night for me with Mahrez

  23. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Only 8pts from Haaland. TCers can't be happy with that.

    1. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Nope, it's a TC fail.

    2. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      TCs can get you 3 points

    3. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      5 points down on average I reckon. Not great but not seasoned defining

    4. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Was a weird Twitter/ follow the content streamers decision for a lot.

      Serious FOMO from most

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Haaland in a double he played 2x90mins isn’t that daft an idea is it

      2. GENERATION X
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        We got virtually 180 mins, let the CL rotation roll

  24. Qaiss
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Someone should check if Lloris has a betting account, my word…

    1. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Has some shares in a few Chinese snooker players

  25. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    So you're telling me that Mahrez wasn't a trap after all?

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Not this week. He is now.

  26. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Was Son just an over performer on stats basis?

    This season has been a complete write off for him so far

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He actually needs dropping. Play Kulu and Rich, might give him a push

    2. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He did overperfom his xG if I remember correctly last season, but he still looked good overall. This season he's been just bad in general.

  27. sminkypinky
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Let’s see some great scores! (To make me feel even worse) 😀

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      69

      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Dunno if that's good or not

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Seemingly not.

          1. sminkypinky
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah not that great. Not bad either.

        2. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I’m afraid it isn’t

          1. Mr. O'Connell
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I'm used it to by now

    2. Digital-Real
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      120

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Wow!

    3. Sergio Giorgini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      95(-4) - Mahrez + Kepa with 29 of those

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Bold. Love it!

    4. Steve Stiffler
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      85 and still feeling not great. Mitrovic and Stones is sickening

    5. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      83 and up to 61k...will take it.

    6. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      87

    7. dabber7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      100 (-4). Rashford TC.

    8. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Well done you lot! Happy for you.

    9. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      95 but TC used on Haaland and also took Kepa out for a hit for DeGea, so that would have been 9 points extra and the ton hit arghhh

  28. Dunk and Disorderly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    The Ederson assist hasn’t been given. Don’t know why.

  29. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Rash C matches Hauland TC the real winner

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Beautiful

  30. Deulofail
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Have Chelsea signed Trossard yet?