FPL
1 June 2023 196 comments
FPLFocal FPLFocal
Share:

FPL Focal has been playing Fantasy Premier League (FPL) for over 11 years and spent some gameweeks ranked number one in the world in the 2021/22 season.

Oscar makes FPL videos on his YouTube channel and in this latest of a summer series looking back at some cult Fantasy figures, celebrates some underpriced FPL gems from yesteryear.


Every year we start the FPL season wondering who the next hidden gem is, waiting to be unearthed. There are always a few to varying degrees and you only get the chance to capitalise once before their prices are corrected the next season.

Here I’ll be looking at the most extreme cases of misclassification ever, when FPL got the player price, and sometimes even the position, completely wrong. The team is packed with cult heroes and some of the most memorable individual seasons we’ve ever seen.

From Lundstram to Michu: The underpriced and misclassified FPL XI

EMILIANO MARTINEZ (2020/21)

  • Starting price: £4.5m
  • End price: £5.3m
  • Points: 186

Emi Martinez made the move from Arsenal to Aston Villa just a few days before the start of 2020/21.

The Villa defence had been unconvincing in their previous campaign, conceding 67 goals, but Martinez had a significant impact, going on to keep 15 clean sheets and accrue 27 bonus to finish on 186 points.

The all-time goalkeeper record was set by Brad Friedel all the way back in the 2002/03 season, with the American racking up 187 points. Had Martinez not picked up his only yellow card of the season in Gameweek 38, he would have tied with Friedel.

JOHN LUNDSTRAM (2019/20)

  • Starting price: £4.0m
  • End price: £4.6m
  • Points: 144

Lundstram cemented himself as an FPL cult hero in 2019/20.

Sheffield United’s promotion-winning campaign the previous year saw the now legendary figure feature sparingly, only starting a few times all season.

As a result, he was priced at £4.0m, though this wasn’t the biggest mistake that FPL made. They’d classified the box-to-box midfielder as a defender, despite him having never played there in his life, and he went on to deliver five goals, four assists and 144 points in his debut FPL campaign.

In Gameweek 11 of 2019/20, he scored twice, kept a clean sheet and picked up maximum bonus for a 21-point haul.

STUART DALLAS (2020/21)

  • Starting price: £4.5m
  • End price: £5.5m
  • Points: 171

Dallas joins the defence, although he barely played at the rear in the 2020/21 season.

The versatile Northern Ireland international played at full-back, central midfield, on the right flank and even as an attacking midfielder in Leeds United’s first campaign back in the Premier League, registering a very respectable 12 clean sheets but, crucially, also scoring on eight occasions and assisting a further three goals.

The following season he was reclassified as a midfielder and got a price hike to £5.5m. Many rookie FPL managers were initially caught out by his positional change after seeing he’d scored 171 points the previous campaign, unaware that he’d been incorrectly categorised as a defender.

TRENT ALEXANDER-ARNOLD (2018/19)

  • Starting price: £5.0m
  • End price: £5.8m
  • Points: 185 points

Alexander-Arnold is now one of the most expensive defenders in FPL history but in his breakout season back in 2018/19, he was initially priced up at £5.0m. This was also Virgil van Dijk’s first full year at Anfield and the same campaign in which the recently signed Alisson went on to win the Golden Glove with 21 clean sheets.

Alexander-Arnold played 29 times, scoring once and getting 13 assists, finishing strongly with six assists in his final half-dozen games.

The following year he got a £2.0m price hike to £7.0m and the rest, as they say, is history.

DELE ALLI (2015/16)

  • Starting price: £5.0m
  • End price: £5.9m
  • Points: 166 points

Although Dele Alli’s career has declined dramatically, he was a brilliant player when he first broke into the Premier League and an excellent piece of business by Spurs.

Signed for an initial fee of £5m from MK Dons and priced identically by FPL, he went on to score on 10 occasions, assist 12 goals and sign off with 166 points.

He got a hefty £3.5m increase the following season but even a £8.5m price tag proved to be something of a bargain as he went on to bag 18 goals and 11 assists en route to a tally of 225 points.

MICHU (2012/13)

Next up is a true FPL cult hero, Michu. He was most FPL managers’ favourite midfielder for 12 months, taking the English top flight by storm in the season of 2012/13.

The Spaniard arrived in Wales as a virtually unknown player and was listed as a £6.5m midfielder by FPL. Very few picked him up from the beginning but he exploded onto the scene with four goals and two assists in his opening three games. As it turned out, ‘midfielder’ was also the wrong classification, as he played the majority of his games as a centre-foward.

He went on to score 18 goals and pick up three assists in 35 appearances, which resulted in a 190-point season. He even earned himself an international cap for Spain during that year, though he never hit the same heights again and sadly the remainder of his career was hindered by injuries. He retired aged just 31 after coming full circle and spending his final year at his boyhood club Real Oviedo.

RIYAD MAHREZ (2015/16)

  • Starting price: £5.5m
  • End price: £7.2m
  • Points: 240

Leicester City’s title-winning success under Claudio Ranieri will go down as one of the greatest achievements in sport, never mind the insular world of English football. And Riyad Mahrez was pivotal in that memorable 2015/16 season.

Leicester had barely survived relegation in 2014/15, with Mahrez contributing a modest four goals and five assists and subsequently being priced up at £5.5m.

The Algerian exceeded all expectations in the following campaign, scoring 17 times and picking up 11 assists as Leicester did the seemingly impossible, winning the Premier League as 5000/1 outsiders.

MOHAMED SALAH (2017/18)

Salah broke numerous records in his debut Liverpool season back in 2017/18.

His starting price was a now-unthinkable £9.0m and while he is by far the most expensive player in this article, he was still an absolute snip.

The Egyptian went on to net 32 times, a record for goals in a 38-game English top-flight campaign, and also set a record for the most games scored in (24). In fact, he even became the first player to outscore three entire Premier League teams in a season.

He also picked up 12 assists and 26 bonus points for a record-breaking total of 303 points.

HARRY KANE (2014/15)

  • Starting price: £5.0m
  • End price: £6.0m
  • Points: 191

One of the biggest ‘hindsight’ pricing mistakes in FPL history came in the 2014/15 season when 20-year-old Harry Kane was listed at £5.0m.

The previous season he’d netted on just three occasions from 500 minutes played but in his breakthrough campaign, he scored 21 goals and assisted a further seven.

Starting as meant to go on, he was involved in 48% of Tottenham’s goals and finished the campaign with 191 points.

Truly one of the biggest value players in FPL history for points per million.

PATRICK BAMFORD (2020/21)

  • Starting price: £5.5m
  • End price: £6.6m
  • Points: 194

In the same season Dallas scored 171 points, Bamford also surprised everyone.

Off the back of promotion from the Championship, Bamford had only scored one Premier League goal in his career and was an unproven player at the top level.

2020/21 saw him plunder 17 goals and 11 assists for a 194-point season. He started the campaign at only £5.5m, going on to beat Kane’s points total above.

JAMIE VARDY (2015/16)

  • Starting price: £6.0m
  • End price: £7.4m
  • Points: 211

We complete this XI with another player central to Leicester’s title-winning season, Jamie Vardy.

He’d netted just five goals the year before that unforgettable campaign and was consequently priced up at £6.0m.

But 2015/16-era Vardy was lethal, instinctive, rapid and, in November 2015, he broke Ruud van Nistelrooy’s Premier League record by scoring in 11 consecutive games.

You simply had to have him in your FPL team and his popularity ensured that he was subject to one of the biggest in-season price increases ever, rising from £6.0m to £7.4m.

HONORARY MENTIONS

Raul Jimenez (2018/19)
  • Starting price: £5.5m
  • End price: £6.9m
  • 181, points 2018/19
Joshua King (2016/17)
  • Starting price: £5.5m
  • End price: £6.2m
  • 178 points

Can you think of any other bargain-bin or woefully misclassified players who you can recall from previous seasons? Let me know in the comments section below.

196 Comments Login to Post a Comment
  1. Bubbles123
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    No mention for Charlie Adam? Absolute bargain!

  2. Fred54
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    "ranked number one in the world in Gameweek 19 of the 2021/22 season, eventually finishing at 17k."

    LOL.

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Choker 😛

    2. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Next hell be claiming he's being recognised in bars all around the world.

    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      He quit his job and went full time too but if Spudgun can then anyone can. He should write a book called ' caving under pressure ' .

      1. FPLFocal
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        I'm stealing that!

    4. FPLFocal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Experimented with a couple of early chips. No regrets

    5. Well you know, Triffic
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      LOL

    6. KujaliaFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Arteta should sign you up now.

  3. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Harry Kane 14-15

    I was the first to see his talent that season. Had him in way before anyone else.

    Then he got a brace against Chelsea and everyone started to believe.

    1. Don Van Vliet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Oh dear.

    2. Herger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      That doesn’t even surprise me. You’re arguably the greatest FPL player of all time imo

      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        😉

  4. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Come on Ukraine

  5. FPL Alchemist
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Yaya toure

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Birthday cake gate.

    2. Well you know, Triffic
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      5.5m Scored from like 18 shots on target lol

  6. el polako
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Wales are lucky it's raining, otherwise Bale would've be playing golf instead.

  7. Don Van Vliet
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Cymru am byth

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Is that in elvish ?

  8. el polako
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Most missclassified - Maguire as defender.
    Not a bargain though, especially from United's point of view.

  9. Baps Hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Have you been following other sites that predict points and how well they do? After interview of "OR 3" I checked Fpl Review and they seemed to have two predicting systems. However I am not at all convinced about their predicting abilities. It is so easy to say that our numbers were correct and if you did better, you were just very lucky.

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      RMT-tool is based a lot on manual input, I believe. Fix is hardly different...

  10. Andy_Social
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Interesting to see how different Zinchenko's role is with his country compared to club.

  11. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Barry Ferguson - Blackburn - 2003 thru 2005
    Guaranteed BAPs hog

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      I think you will find that it was at Birmingham 2009 to 2011 that he was a FPL bonus magnet.

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Yes that was the time baps were decided by a guy wasn't it? Must have had a hard on for Ferguson

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Charlie Adams at Blackpool was another but at least he was noticeably the best player in the pitch at times

          1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 16 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Default 3 points every game. Still better than the garbage system they have now.

        2. Lanley Staurel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          “Man in the stand”

  12. Andy_Social
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Woah! BALEEEEE

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Technically a Yarmalenko diving header from a Bale free kick. Not since 1958.....

    2. Oggle22
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Got bale to score outside the box will he get it or defo an og

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        OG unfortunately

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        BBC given it Bale - Guardian as og. Need to wait for confirmation. Bale's shot was on target but keeper had it until Yar got his bonce on it.

        1. el polako
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          May have to wait for Sue Gray's report.

        2. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          May have got it as a FPL assist, but can’t see it here.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            It would definitely be an assist. Seems to be officially down as an og now.

            1. The Bandit
              • 15 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              Sorry, meant to say a FPL goal, not assist.

  13. el polako
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Pen all day long.

  14. Andy_Social
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Congrats to Grimsby, back in the EFL. Solihull won't be joining Sutton this season.

  15. George Sillett
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Congratulations to Grimsby Town promoted to the EFL. Brilliant game .

    1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Lol

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        The sophisticated supporters who follow their home town club appreciate football that isn't Premier League . End of.

        1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Fair play slouchie, never had you down as a fisherman

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            I'm not but can only admire supporters at that level
            They had 17000 fans at that game today. My wife's boss is the the brother of the Grimsby manager Paul Hurst who is a real genuine guy.

            1. Nightcrawler
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              Hey slouch how is it going. Just getting something off my chest. I left for a long while before returning. U might remember gabiaddini soton striker not staring a game. Been such long time since that I figured I'd mention it

              1. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 10 months ago

                Marco , remember well ! I'm good thanks , how are you ?

                1. Nightcrawler
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 10 months ago

                  I'm good..in case u didn't connect the dots I made a bet regarding him not starting. Hope u don't hate still lol I knew I was always in the wrong and childish back then

                  1. George Sillett
                    • 10 Years
                    3 years, 10 months ago

                    No connection here ! Also no problems. I always was amused by your posts.

              2. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 10 months ago

                Except he never played for Soton!

                1. George Sillett
                  • 10 Years
                  3 years, 10 months ago

                  Was he ever on their books ?

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • 13 Years
                    3 years, 10 months ago

                    Manolo Gabbiadini

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manolo_Gabbiadini

                    1. George Sillett
                      • 10 Years
                      3 years, 10 months ago

                      Old age memory failure !

                    2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                      • 16 Years
                      3 years, 10 months ago

                      Oh god one of my worse ever FPL players . I actually thought he scored in binary at one point until he got sent off and actually gave me minus figures

    2. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Congrats

      As a Palace Fan (if it wasn't for that injury after we got promoted ) he would have been our best right back of all time.

      Sir Danny Butterfield

  16. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Cheap wrongly classified players. One of the best bits of FPL

  17. George Sillett
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Neil Ardley what a man. Congratulating all the Grimsby players individually despite the heartbreak of the loss.

  18. el polako
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    "I'm not impressed by money, social status or job title. I'm impressed by the way someone treats other human beings"

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      *reply fail to slouchy above.

  19. Andy_Social
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Exciting game, this. Pity Scotland didn't show the same passion the Welsh are. Could go either way but I wonder if Ukraine will tire in the last ten minutes.

    1. Nightcrawler
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Wales need to out one these chances away!

  20. Nightcrawler
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Great save

  21. Andy_Social
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Magnificent defending to secure the 1-0 victory. Sorry for Ukraine; Wales' first World Cup since 1958!!!

  22. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Not bloody Wales

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      You have to wonder if they'd have got this far if Giggsy hadn't been a naughty boyo.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Rob Page is a sound guy who has way more about him than he lets on when speak face to face with him about football.

      2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Highly doubt it. Pretty glad Giggs isn’t in the limelight anymore tbh.

  23. Nightcrawler
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Wales england USA Iran

    Very spicy group. Lots of potentially feisty encounters

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      A Great Satan dual to the death and a Brexit fight out. Lovely stuff.

      1. Crunchie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Wales's population voted for Brexit. Scotland and N Ireland were the majority remainers (and London).

        If i remember correctly?

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Southgate needs to get this right, would be a calamity of 2016 size if he fails this group.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        England will sail through the group, as per. They're knackered now but will be fine come November.

        But hear this here first: England players who go far into a major tournament and fall late on do get mentally affected. Expect FPL stars of the first 16 or so gameweeks to be rubbish when the league resumes.

  24. WALOR
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Well done Wales, great to see, however sad it is for Ukraine.

    Now please explain to an ignorant and mystified yank:

    Why does the "United" Kingdom play 4 different squads in international football?

    yadda yadda Proud Heritage yadda yadda How we've always done it, but if it means George Best, Ryan Giggs etc. etc. never get to play in the Euros or World Cup, everybody loses. I would expect a united team to rival Germany and Brazil for WC wins.

    Seems like sheer malevolence to me, and massively self-destructive.

    What am I missing?

    1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      It's just the way it was when international football started, and never been a desire to change it.

    2. Herger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      A United Kingdom side would barely be stronger than an England side imo. Would probably be England plus Andy Robertson.

      1. TheDragon
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Hennessey in goal
        BDavies over Maguire
        Bale in the front 3 for starters

        1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Hennessy played a good game today but is generally a championship standard keeper

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      First thing you are missing is the pride to be Scottish (for example). United means united. Would you like to have United Scandinavia playing? Would every citizen in every nation be cheering? How about other united teams? United EU vs UK?!? Is England alone too small country to match... ...Iceland?

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        It's as jarvish says - just ancient history - 'We invented the game' and all that. In just about every other case in the world, the terms 'nation' and 'country' are synonymous, but not the nation of the United Kingdom, which comprises 4 countries, 3 being in Great Britain, and one not!

        When I was young, half a British squad would have been Scottish - oh how I pine for the days when Scotland routinely qualified for the World Cup whilst England failed to! Now, as Redro says, it would be all English apart from Robertson.

        1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          I think it was more a necessity in order for there to be meaningful international football in the first place (as next to no other countries had international teams in the beginning) rather than any arrogance.

          1. Ser Davos
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Good point, never considered that... If they had started out with a GB/UK team then who would they/we have played indeed

    4. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      There are also other a lot of other football legends who never got to play in Euros or WC. Or win them.

    5. WALOR
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      So far, I see:
      - inertia (at least you own up to it)
      - wouldn't make much difference (I think George Best, Dalgliesh, or Bale-in-his-prime would disagree)
      - poor analogies (Scandanavia are separate countries)
      - chauvinism (exactly what the world needs more of in these peaceful times)
      - it was necessary back in the 1930s when it was a tiny sport
      - other greats missed out as well (two wrongs don't make a right?)

      Still waiting for a reason that's not a bit sad.

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        History is history. But whatever you say or do, just DO NOT blame me about chauvinism. Every normal fit man (and even volunteer females nowadays) in our country do serve our country and go to army. UK promised to help us last time vs Russia / USSR. But you did nothing besides false promises. Then you basically forced us to fight against USSR with N..i-Germany. Winston Churchill wrote a letter to apologize that he is forced to declare war with us. And it didn´t stop there. You armed USSR against current EU country. That is past now, but you just better not dare to accuse me of chauvinism.

        In every building that has two for three floors we have bomb shelters. However, I want to thank UK for supporting Ukraine a lot. I also want to thank UK for supporting Finland (and Sweden) joining NATO. I also want to give thx for promising security with your nuclear power during these "peaceful" days.

        PS Sorry for getting totally upset, but my grandma for example lost her brother because of russians. We are still suffering because of chauvinists deep in our hearts and it`s happening again, just elsewhere 🙁

    6. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      There is absolutely no way.

      Scotland, Wales and Rep of Ireland hate Engaldnd.

      If you add France (and Ireland) into rugby in the 6 nations, all think Engalnd as their rivals.

      England (and Wales) play Cricket

      There is no United Kindgdom in any sport i can think off.

      Maybe tennis and Formula one.

      Even athletics is Great Brian and Northern Ireland.

      Scotland and England in football hate each other.

      Just like Netherland and Germany. Some things will never change due to history.

      I dont think USA have many rival countries in sports do they as most big sports are just played in USA and Canada?

      So maybe those two?

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Big tennis follower. Everytime it's Andy Murray it's like all the English pretend he's English. In my country most casual tennis fans probably think he's English not Scottish.

        Also UK have one team for Olympics too

        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          He will never be anything near English in my eyes.

      2. WALOR
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        "Some things will never change due to history."

        There's an uplifting thought.

        Ask a Texan what he thinks about people in San Francisco or Manhattan, and vice-versa.

        Our bloodiest war was more recent than what Wales or Scotland experienced and many in the South still call it "The War Against Northern Aggression" (my family is strictly NY and Mass. btw).

        But Mississippians are happy to cheer any US athlete in the Olympics, for example, and surely would in the WC, if they cared to watch futbol.

        If TAA and Robertson can play together for Liverpool, why can't they do the same against Germany?

        Your players kneel against racism, yet you glorify chauvinism.

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Salah and Mane play for Liverpool. Why can´t they play for same Africa United?!?

      3. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Wales play cricket ? Glamorgan play cricket with a bunch of players who predominantly aren't Welsh. Scotland play cricket too , dame applies

    7. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Was watching an English Civil War doc the other day (don't judge!) and it was appropriately described as the British problem: 4 nations kingdom in 1. Not sure if the situation is comparable tbh

      What us English seem to often overlook is that, roughly speaking, the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish aren't too keen on us and with good historical reason

      I have a deep admiration for the other nations of the UK wanting to uphold their identity and tradition

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        4 nations/ 4 kingdoms in 1

      2. Well you know, Triffic
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        The UK will split up tbh:

        1. Scotland will go first
        2. After 1-2 generations there may well be a United Ireland
        3. Wales will see the above two things as rationale to go their own way

        European history is especially interesting in that smaller states were so common during medieval time. The safety in numbers approach is beneficial during times of war, but in one of relative peace the topic of independence will always re-appear.

        1. Babit1967
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          This will happen in the not too distant future

      3. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Ser Devos,

        I admire / like your attitude. Part of identity is national sports team in every league. That is the same as right to have own flag and national anthem etc. Belonging in a bigger union shouldn`t take that away. People have roots.

        We have been under Russia and under Sweden. The Russian empire wants us back from EU. The same history goes on and on. Only maps and "luck" in war has changed constantly. The story today is still ancient. Weapons have changed, nothing else.

    8. Well you know, Triffic
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Because they are all proud nations with their own distinct history, cultures and languages. If you want to try and roll them up then you should apply the same logic to Eastern Europe and other parts of the world...

    9. noquarternt
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      I think you need to get a better grip on the history of the UK and how it exists today rather than blithely throw about insults.

      Historically the different nations of the UK set up their own Football Associations and had their own rules and variants of the game for the different regions. None of these football associations at any time in history have wanted to give up their independence (why would they?) and there has been no real call for change from anyone.

      Thus the status quo exists today.

  25. JELLYFISH
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Cesc Fabregas in his breakthrough season for Arsenal was insanely cheap I recall.
    Raheem Sterling’s breakthrough season with Liverpool is another one.

    1. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Only had Cesc available for a brief spell (started playing 10-11) and he was an immense asset. Racked up assists and bonus like it was going out of fashion

      Come to think of it, he did me a solid at the beginning of 14-15

  26. circusmonkey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Does anyone else find it galling to observe the following contrast: that the politically correct English media put out the message that we should support Wales, whilst it is completely ok for them to hate us.

    1. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      They're the underdogs, similar to Scotland and Ireland, whilst us English are overlord oppressors (roughly speaking)

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        This same phenomenon is happening everywhere worldwide. People in more ruling or colonialist countries support those who have been "under" them. But Ukrainians are not supporting russia.

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          They are underdogs and have been...

          1. Ser Davos
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Us humans love patterns of behaviour. Interesting though...

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Do they even speak their own language in Wales anymore? If not, why so?

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Forgive the source

        This headline popped up a while back, suggesting a contentious issue

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10853709/amp/Welsh-parents-want-children-taught-English-treated-like-second-class-citizens.html

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          And the same / similar thing has been happening in Southern Europe also. Pep Guardiala played played for the Catalonian team. I find it hard for him to have ever played in Spanish team (had he been good enough, I don´t know).

          Should Scotland want to play for partial UK, it would be their decision. Should others join, it would be fine for the rest of the world. But if they don´t want to play for basically English team, I don´t see huge problem. I simply believe they have right to choose. And who has authority to complain about choices others make in this case.

  27. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Absolutely soak up articles like this. The nostalgia is phenomenal

    I know there's Transfermarkt, but I still wish FPL would store all the website in an accessible place. They must hold info somewhere as when players return i.e. Bale their data is all there

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      All data should be made available. Or we have to try to find a way to save it. Storage costs are getting so cheap, that it is stupid to lose it, even for PL.

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Agreed, every point for every gameweek with an option to archive our own efforts for posterity

  28. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Last time Wales qualified for a WC was just prior to the Munich Air Crash of 58

  29. Nightcrawler
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Just read the article and what's it about. Played fpl since 2007 so some veterans might recognize these super bargain picks from the past

    Chris brunt 09 wba

    Siggy 2011 swansea

    Cisse 2012 Newcastle

    Johnny Evans 2010

    Ramsey 2014

    Fellanini 2013

    1. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      I don't know about JEvans (nostalgic just writing that) 09-10, but 11-12 he was a 4.5 bargain with Vidic's injury. Defence that year was dominated by a newly classified Kompany 6.0 and SWA/NEW defenders all 4.0-4.5

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Michu was the standout budget mid 12-13, but he was actually part of a little crew that included Fellaini and Kevin Nolan. The hype train was for Pienaar

        The big mids were Mata (Hazard for the first DGW), Bale, Walcott and Cazorla

    2. FPLFocal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Those are some great ones. I looked at a few of those before writing up but some went through a run of form rather than all season. That Cisse goal vs Chelsea though!

    3. noquarternt
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Brunt was unreal

  30. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Talking of historical and national pride and neatly linking Wales' and Grimsby's triumphs, I absolutely love the depth and tradition of the English football league ans pyramid as emphasised by Grimsby's euphoria at reclaiming their place back in the 72

    1. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Imagine if Wrexham had won today as well!