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  1. TheBiffas
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    If Haaland is injured, might just play Archer vs Bou

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    1. JBG
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Archer vs Bou is not a bad option this GW haha.

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    2. snow pea in repose
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      He's currently in my starting XI

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  2. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Everton deducted 10 pts. Quality of the teams below them mean it will be interesting to see if they avoid drop.
    Cursed club though, Championship, proper owners and rebuild might be what they need.

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    1. x.jim.x
      • 9 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Relegation is never a positive thing

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      1. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Just saw an updated table and actually they will be fine anyway. It's a bit of a shot in the arm for Luton, who have been getting better. But the three teams that came up are woeful. Probably backs up your argument how important it is to never drop down due to the money now.

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        1. x.jim.x
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Yeah, I think they go into administration if they go down. You would think they'd stay up, but I'm not as confident as others, only because I think Luton have the potential to survive. Saying that, Everton have more wins than the promoted sides combined...

          Imagine telling Everton fans last year they'd get hit with a 10 point deduction and still stay up. Madness.

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      2. ebb2sparky
        • 13 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        They won't get relegated. There are at least 3 teams that are more than 10pts worse than Everton. Good season to take the deduction imo

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        1. JBG
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Yeah I don't think they will get relegated either. Luton and SHU, specifically, are awful.

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          1. Nomar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 months, 2 days ago

            Burnley actually look the worst of the 3.

            Which you would never have suspected after they absolutely cakewalked the Championship last season.

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            1. JBG
              • 6 Years
              6 months, 2 days ago

              Oh yeah, actually forgot about Burnley, probably because they have been a nothing team so far this season.

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            2. ebb2sparky
              • 13 Years
              6 months, 2 days ago

              Burnleys problem is that they're still trying to play football whereas Sheffield utd and Luton never bothered trying. I still think Burnley are the most likely to stay up out of the 3

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      3. Hairy Potter
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        A season in the Championship can be a lot of fun, if you're used to being in the bottom half of the Prem. Any longer than that is not good.

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        1. popey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          I really enjoyed the championship when we (Villa went down), new teams and grounds plus genuinely have a shot at winning every game.

          That said, not sure i'd feel the same if we hadn't changed owners after first play-off final!

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    2. JBG
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      I really wonder how this decision will affect the players and the team.
      They have already appealed the decision. But still, this might light an extra fire under them or maybe destroy their moral.

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      1. keefy59
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        As an Everton supporter I've been thinking that the club knew this was coming recently .
        This has probably been a contributing factor to our recent improved form .
        In theory this should motivate them even more .
        Our only worry would be if any of the promoted teams start picking up regular points

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        1. JBG
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Yeah don't think I would worry that much about that last part, haha.

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        2. PartyTime
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Everton aren’t the only club involved in this mess, they just happened to be the scapegoat.

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    3. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      In any other season this would be almost certain relegation for them, but the quality of the 3 promoted teams is such that they may yet be good enough to stay up.

      Like Joey Jo-Jo said, this should give all 3 of the newly promoted teams a massive shot in the arm because this is a potential lifeline for them.

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    4. PartyTime
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Proper Owners???

      The Chairman recently passed away. He was loved by many & he was a great Chairman, so yeah, you have a far fetched theory about proper owners because other clubs have been lucky or the league is very corrupt in every aspect.

      You make me think you started following PL in 2017.

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    5. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 months, 1 day ago

      They gave the penalty this year because they can see that Everton will still be safe. It will get reduced on appeal. They'll never do it to City and Chelsea but they will have made their point.

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    6. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 7 hours ago

      Hi Joey, you around? Got a question for you when you're free

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    1. JBG
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Lol, wtf even is this post. Specially that last part.

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      1. One Bee's Saka
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 2 days ago

        It was a post of user who names Sure You Did, am I right?

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    2. x.jim.x
      • 9 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      You can just buy Bowen you know

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      1. Kane not win a trophy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        No. I don't want him actually.

        I'm just concerned that all the kneejerkers here could get rewarded.

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        1. x.jim.x
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          "Kneejerk" - the bloke's been scoring at least every other week since day 1

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    3. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      After last GW I expect it’s moved on to a Ward Prowse bandwagon now.

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    4. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      He has 7+pts in 8 out of 12 fixtures so far. And that's a bandwagon that's too early? Ok then.

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    5. Unliklinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      I wish that Mark and the old gang still ran this site. They would have banned you for wishing a player an injury already.

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      1. El Presidente
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        here we go with this stupid cancel mindset. grow a pair buddy

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      2. Kane not win a trophy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        I'm not really wishing him an injury. OMG. I thought that was clear.

        But I will ban myself now for a while. Sorry for the misconduct.

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    6. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      It's more likely he doesn't get injured and punishes you.

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    7. The Big Fella
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Some people don’t half chat some shite on here at times

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 12 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Most of the time if you're completely honest!

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      2. NorCal Villan
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        Never go full!

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  4. x.jim.x
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    The Asterisk Trophy Haul (pending 115 charges):

    Stoke City - 1x FA Cup
    Watford - 1x FA Cup
    Man United - 3x PL, 1x FA Cup
    Sunderland - 1x League Cup
    Liverpool - 1x PL, 1x League Cup, 1x Charity Shield
    Arsenal - 1x PL, 1x League Cup
    Chelsea - 1x League Cup, 2x Charity Shield
    Aston Villa - 1x League Cup
    Spurs - 1x League Cup
    Inter - 1x Champions League
    Sevilla - 1x Super Cup

    As a United fan, I'd rather City keep them than give Gerrard owt tbh

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    1. JBG
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Don't even care about the trophies, sure I want them to lose them, but if 2nd place or other finalists get them or not isn't the most important part.

      The most important part is that justice should be served, everyone that follows PL knows what City have been doing and how they got to the top the way they have. You don't have to be a MU fan, LFC fan or whatever to want this. As a football fan in general, you want to see that these kind of things are totally unacceptable and that the people in charge can actually grow some cojones and do the right thing.

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 14 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        City bring in big money to the premier league and are helping to expand the reach of the premier league brand into the Middle East.

        Also, with their success in Europe helps the premier league with their exposure as well as city bringing in top players to help the success of the league

        All of this equals to larger tv deals, more commercial opportunities and helping to keep the premier league at the top of the top leagues in the world

        There is no way the premier league, uefa or anyone at the top has an incentive to accelerate or take action against city as they would be harming their brand, their pockets.

        Same with Spanish fa, they did everything they could to support Barca and Real Madrid and swept many things under the carpet in order to keep the league as one of the top leagues. Imagine punishing Barcelona and the threat of them losing their position in the league, losing messi who was a massive part of the tv deals and commercial success of the league. It jus wasn’t going to happen and same thing with city

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        1. x.jim.x
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          UEFA and the Prem have no incentive to take action, but they did it anyway - real tinfoil hat stuff this. City don't even have the commercial appeal of Spurs, never mind Barcelona and Madrid, so it's not the same situation whatsoever.

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        2. snow pea in repose
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Well said

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        3. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 7 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Good points this. And I guess they aren't willing to risk being killed either, as witnessed by the murdering of those opposing the regimes (Kashogga).

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    2. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      What if Chelsea were stripped of their titles too?

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      1. x.jim.x
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        If going off the FFP investigation of incomplete financial reports between 2012 and 2019:

        Arsenal - 1x PL (after stripping City of their 1x PL), 1x Europa
        Spurs - 1x PL, 1x League Cup
        Liverpool - 1x FA Cup
        Man United - 1x FA Cup
        Bayern - 1x Champions League
        PSG/Madrid - 1x Champions League (playoff after stripping City of their 1x CL)
        Benfica - 1x Europa
        Villarreal - 1x Super Cup
        Palmeiras - 1x CWC

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        1. x.jim.x
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Sorry - CL, Super Cup and CWC were after 2019 obviously (got a bit carried away)

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        2. Traction Engine Foot
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Wow thanks, good work. Spurs getting silverware suggests it probably won't happen

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    3. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Stevie G is still living in your head rent-free!

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      1. x.jim.x
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Hardly going to slip out of it is he?

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        1. panda07
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          The slip comment may become redundant. Whatever will you do then?!

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          1. x.jim.x
            • 9 Years
            6 months, 2 days ago

            No amount of tinpot asterisked vacated trophies will ever remove that moment from peoples’ minds, I’m afraid my bamboo loving amigo

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            1. panda07
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              6 months, 2 days ago

              It’s very strange that you would turn down 3 pl titles just to keep the Gerrard moment more significant. Says a lot!

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  5. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Early thoughts here? 2FT, 0.4m ITB

    Areola (Leno)
    Cash Udogie Schar (Tsimikas Kabore)
    Salah Son(c) Saka Gordon Palmer
    Haaland Watkins (Archer)

    Not super keen on Cash, Udogie, Saka… Son and Haaland wait and sees

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  6. Slitherene
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Low TV, on a WC!

    Areola ¦ Strakosha
    TAA Gabriel Guehi
    Salah Saka Bowen Mbeumo Eze
    Haaland Nkunku
    | Archer Lascelles Taylor

    Guehi, Eze -> James, Palmer in 16.

    Thoughts, please?

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    1. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Why TAA?

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      1. I SPEAK ENGELS AND DRINK GI…
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        he is living in the past, in the year 2021

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    2. The Road to Turfdom
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Nkunku is too much of a punt. TAA is overpriced

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      1. The Road to Turfdom
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        I.e. Nkunku could be great, but I'd prefer to wait

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  7. PartyTime
    • 2 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    They did that to Everton but couldn’t do it to City. What a forqin league!

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  8. panda07
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Can City fans feel the noose tightening around their necks?

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    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      1150 point deduction imminent.

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    2. JBG
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      I'm pretty sure if it actually happens, that City gets punished. Their fans will deny it all, call the FA, UEFA and whoever else is involved corrupt. Call it injustice, probably even blame LFC, MU and even Arsenal, somehow. Just defend and deflect.

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      1. panda07
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Yeah like they currently deny any wrongdoing!

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    3. The Big Fella
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      They’ll get away with a slap on the wrist and a fine

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  9. Saka Rice
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Do you prefer Zinchenko or Gabriel?

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    1. The Road to Turfdom
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Zinchenko

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  10. PartyTime
    • 2 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Kane is a completely different beast at Bayern & I am not exaggerating, he could win the balon d’or if he England wins a trophy.

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    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Even with Bellingham beside him, Rice being class in midfield and a few other handy lads, Southgate's pragmatism in big games will undo their chances of winning a trophy.

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      1. PartyTime
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        I honestly think I would do a better job as manager.

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        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Bit of a commute from Abq Walter 😉

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        2. Zalk
          • 12 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          I honestly think he's underappreciated.

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      2. Feanor
        • 14 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Cowardice is the word I'd use

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    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      I don't think he's doing anything that he didn't do before. But he's now at a huge club in a different league and was bought for a huge amount of money so there are more eyes on him and how he's doing, so he's getting more attention now. He's in a much better team now which means more chances for him to score, and well someone with the vision and ability of him having players like Sane, Gnabry, Musaila, Coman and Muller making runs and receiving his passes means he'll have far more assists too

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  11. Bobby Digital
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Areola
    Cash Gabriel Tsimikas
    Saka Salah Mbeumo Bowen
    Alvarez Haaland Watkins

    Leno DLuiz Gusto Bell

    0.5m itb, 0 ft

    Team GTG? Right keeper?

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    1. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Third defender could give you problems. Strong otherwise

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      1. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Yea I'm sorting it out next GW. Taking out Gusto or Bell for a playing defender with nice fixtures.

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  12. Keventry City
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Pretty sure you have missed Ibrahim Sangare from this article

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    1. Skonto Rigga
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Now added - it's worse than I thought for Forest!

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      1. Men in green tights
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Yep not looking forward for that month at all

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      2. Charlie Price
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Forest won’t be able to field a team at this rate.

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    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 1 day ago

      Great spot!

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  13. PartyTime
    • 2 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    I don’t see James staying fit during the busy festive period maybe Poch would have to sub him off around the 60th minute mark in a lot of games.

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  14. JBG
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    "The Club will also monitor with great interest the decisions made in any other cases concerning the Premier League's Profit and Sustainability Rules."

    A snippet from Evertons statement. Good on them to bring that up imo.

    https://www.evertonfc.com/news/3788440/club-statement

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  15. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Ah boy this means that united and pool will lose all trophies as well in the history?
    Can not wait for that happening. Amazing times...

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  16. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    Best move to fund Haaland?

    a) Trippier, Alvarez to Tsimikas, Haaland (will bench Tsimikas)
    b) Son, Alvarez to Palmer, Haaland
    c) Saka, Watkins to Palmer, Haaland
    d) Don't get Haaland this week

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    1. JBG
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Haaland might be injured, so wait and see.

      But B out of those, if you have 2 fts.

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    2. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      If he is fit, b).

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  17. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 2 days ago

    lol, Everton back to 4 points. Doesnt look too bad tbh, they may survive. They are on the same points as Burnley now, with Sheffield and Luton only 1 and 2 points ahead.

    I thought Everton were bad, but even with a 10 point deduction they are matching those teams

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    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 2 days ago

      Big difference too is that they actually look (and are) capable of getting results, especially recently where it has seemed like they've finally tightened up a bit defensively under Dyche.

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      1. Andrew D48
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        And they got Man united next!

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        1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Yeah, I was set on playing Branthwaite next week and think I'll stick. I'd say the atmosphere will be intense at Goodison after this and I'd imagine Everton will be as up for the game as they possibly can be

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          1. Andrew D48
            • 2 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Always intense atmosphere v Utd and their fans love an injustice I think they will hammer a poor utd

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            1. have you seen cyan
              • 4 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Probably yea

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            2. Bennerman
              • 5 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              You think they're going to hammer United?
              We must come back to this next weekend!

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              1. Andrew D48
                • 2 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                I do and will tho if I’m right I won’t be happy again!

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              2. have you seen cyan
                • 4 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                Possibly, I wont say hammer, but an Everton win wont be surprising. maybe 2-1 or 3-1

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      2. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        yea, I think they will be ok. But if DCL gets injured they may be in trouble again.

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    2. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 1 day ago

      good video here about the fan views etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIbmrf0-lC0&ab_channel=SkySportsNews

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    3. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 1 day ago

      The ironic thing is, as Everton appealing and delaying the process, does anyone know how long the process would be delayed for?

      If it was to the end of the season, I could see them get relegated next season instead? Never has their been 3 such weak teams been promoted?

      I take it on the chin and carry on climbing, if I was the Everton board.

      I think the punishment is fair, it is an administration-type penalty. I hope Man City and Chelsea get 30 points deduction but that would still be enough to stay up (for Man City)

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      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        Yea what you are saying is right. They want to appeal, but perhaps they will change their minds. I'd just take it unless its clearly wrong.

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      2. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        The precedent has been set . Why would Chelsea or Man City get a 30 point deduction when Everton have 10 ?

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        1. Crunchie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          Because Everton have broken one rule of FFP dutring that 3/4 year period.. Man City have broken over a 100 rules over a ten-year period.
          The punishment has to fit the crime

          https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-city-ffp-everton-points-29144551

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          1. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            So actually by your argument pro rata the points deductions should be between 300 & 400 ?
            Nothing is yet proven that Man City have broken over 100 rules and it's The Mirror ........

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            1. have you seen cyan
              • 4 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Yea nothing proven yet, and its not like every breach means a 10 point deduction. Man City and whoever else should be punished though. For City, I expect relegation from one league at least. They will also get royally screwed in civil cases. Everyone who got relegated, missed out on a trophy, or a promotion place etc will sue man city. They could in theory got bankrupt

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              1. George Sillett
                • 8 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                Can't see this happening at all. If it goes further lawyers will scraping through in fine detail the financial dealings of every club. Football would be trashed

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            2. Crunchie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              You said that that, not I.

              If they are found guilty they could be expelled as could Chelsea. But the FA won't want that.

              The reason Manchester City were hit with so many charges is that breaching one rule sometimes indicates another has been breached. For instance, if a club has breached financial fair play, it may also have submitted inaccurate accounts and failed to act in good faith, both of which are not permitted.

              In addition, the FA also has the power to investigate. The FA’s remit includes the submission of accurate information on fees received by agents working on transfers. The FA is also investigating Chelsea.

              Much like a courtroom trial, lawyers from both sides – the club and the Premier League – must then argue their case. Given the money and reputations at stake, this is typically a lengthy process and one that is conducted in private. At the end of it, the judicial panel will make a decision. Unlike a criminal case, the verdict is reached on the balance of probability and does not require proof beyond a reasonable doubt

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              1. George Sillett
                • 8 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                I did but I was applying your logic to the situation .

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                1. Crunchie
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  No i said 30 points, as it is usually an administration penalty (if the club survives) if all rules of administration whilst in administration are also broken. I.e. the debtors do not agree to what the administrator offer and the club get a heavier penalty as a result.

                  That is my logic.

                  You logic is based on assumption

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                  1. George Sillett
                    • 8 Years
                    6 months, 1 day ago

                    So actually your deduction is still an assumption based on your opinion.

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                    1. Crunchie
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      Yes, it is, just like Everton's punishment of 9 points (instead of 10) would be based on my assumption and opinion hat this FFP rule being broken is akin to a club going into administration because they are spending above their means according to the rules.

                      MAn City/Chelsea have been doing it for years. It will be higher points for sure if found guilty or expulsion.

                      But the FA won't want expulsion, especially for Man City, with a Super League continuing to be mentioned as a possibility.

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                  2. George Sillett
                    • 8 Years
                    6 months, 1 day ago

                    Apologies . Your logic looked clear in your initial statement . 10 point deduction for each breach in the 3/4 year period

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                    1. Crunchie
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      No worries. Apology accepted 🙂

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        2. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          Because City face like 115 charges.

          City could crash down through multiple leagues in one go, it is possible that they get far more than a 30 point deduction.

          But I am no expert on these things, they should be consecutive charges/punishments.

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          1. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            This is nonsense. They won't crash through multiple leagues

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          2. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            They won't be consecutive punishments .

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            1. have you seen cyan
              • 4 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              You don't reckon? What's to stop another team then saying well lets break multiple rules then if we only get a blanket punishment.

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              1. George Sillett
                • 8 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                Leicester succeeded in getting away with it. What you're suggesting would result in utter chaos

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                1. have you seen cyan
                  • 4 Years
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  Maybe they should have tier punishments then.

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          3. Crunchie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            The Football league will invite Man City in if they are expelled from the league, there would be just one less relgation place. The FA only control the premier league (and Cup)

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            1. Crunchie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              They would lose a lot of money and possibly expulsion, but only from the premier league. If they were in the championship, they could be expelled from the top 4 leagues altogether, but they are not 🙂

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              1. have you seen cyan
                • 4 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                ok thanks for explaining that makes sense, I didn't realise it worked like that.

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      3. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        Their appealing doesn’t delay it. The deduction is now.
        The appeal is for the harshness of the punishment.

        I personally think it’s a little harsh for having a 10 m over spend. Hopefully the appeal reduces it to 6.

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        1. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          Can you get further punishment for a failed appeal, a second deduction or fine?

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        2. Crunchie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          I know Everton like you are upset, but FFP was brought in to make sure that football clubs were not spending more than they earned and, in doing so, prevent them from falling into financial trouble which may endanger their long-term survival – and, in their words, "improve the overall financial health of European football".

          Maybe 9 points is fair, as it is a kind of administration.

          having had a club being close to 10 minutes from liquidation in 2010 after our 2nd admin, (Crystal Palace), the first one the admin had no points deduction and could still get loans in 1999. We loaned Ashley cole and Mikel Forsell from Arsenal and Chelsea, but luckily had Matt Jansen, etc, and got £10m in sales.

          But the second one we had 43 points (less 33) and played Sheff Wednesday on 33 points at Hillsbourough but with a better goal difference.

          SO Palace had to not lose. It ended 2-2 with about 10 minutes of injury time. I have never been so happy after a game of football or emotional, and then we thought it was all in vain, until Lloyds Bank let us pay them what the stadium was worth as a loan rather than the land value. If we ever move then Lloyds get the land value.
          Simon Jordon agreed 1p in the £ as if he did not, we would (like Luton had lost another 20 points).

          It tough, and I feel for the fans. I really do.

          But no one felt for us at the time in all honesty, and an administration-type fine is, in my opinion, fair (should be 9 points) as this was one offence over the 4 years (because of Covid). £370m is still too high, even though i know there were exceptional circumstances.

          It is the rich and incompentance of these men that hurt the fans, but the fans will always be there for the club through thick and thin.

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          1. Crunchie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Sorry forgot to mention Lloyds agreed that deal (£4m is better than nothing), with 10 minutes to go before liquidation papers were to be served. Steve Parish always said he would never buy the club without the ground.

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          2. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Simon Jordan was the biggest crook I ever had to deal with in the business world

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            1. Crunchie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Probably was. His spanish investment didn't go too well did it? Thats what cost the club really.

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              1. George Sillett
                • 8 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                No it didn't. Nasty bugger too. I like Palace as a club but he was a scummy individual

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            2. Manic M
                6 months, 1 day ago

                Phone insurance from car phone warehouse?

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            3. The 12th Man
              • 10 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Thank you for your comprehensive reply.
              I agree we should be punished, the business that is Everton has been run badly over the past 7 years.
              The owner funding the new stadium has a huge part to play in this. Cheaper yes, but a loan from a bank although being more expensive would have kept us within FFP.
              It’s like us not managing our credit cards properly. We don’t pay off the full balance if it causes financial problems elsewhere.
              Plus the sanctioning of Usimov lost us a lot of revenue from stadium naming rights too.
              If that’s the punishment then I just prey that our spirit can pull us through. Think we have a good chance if players stay fit.
              It’s a mess.
              I have nothing to say about City and Chelsea. There different cases.

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              1. Manic M
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  Everton won’t be anywhere near the relegation zone come the end of the season. That’s not the point though of course. It’s a joke of a punishment.

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                  1. The 12th Man
                    • 10 Years
                    6 months, 1 day ago

                    Fingers crossed. We look better this year.
                    The punishment opens up other teams like Leicester twisting the knife, suing for loses.
                    It’s just opened a can of worms.

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                    1. Crunchie
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      Leicester can only sue based on last year i would have thought? where you made a net profit?? Certainly in transfer fee anyway.

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                • Crunchie
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  It is a mess mate. Everton will pull through this season. It was a good game Saturday.

                  So much so, that Palace we not last on Match of the Day.

                  But it always is in administration, (or now FFP) which i have experienced twice. What is happening at Southend is just crazy. Going to be a 2nd Bury.

                  You will know more than me, but thats why Dyche, O.Neill at Wolves, as they were close, and Roy at us this season (as we have just had the go ahead to build a new main stand, after rehousing and buying new property for them to live in, (unlike Liverpool who bought houses and kept them empty I believe to extend Anfield, maybe wrong, but that's what i heard), it took 6 years, to get the application approved.

                  I even remember our old chairman Bloye in 1980 selling some of the ground to Sainsbury's (still there), then buying duds from QPR and selling our best players to QPR (except Sansom went to Arsenal), only for Bloye and Venables to turn up as Chairman and manager of QPR a few weeks later!!!. Went down on 19 points. I was only 8 so didn't understand, but my poor Dad, bless him.

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                  1. George Sillett
                    • 8 Years
                    6 months, 1 day ago

                    I'm a Cov fan and we've had our fair share of points deductions and terrible owners . Thankfully there was a massive upside in Mark Robins who has worked miracles for the club. Looking forward to Millwall away on the 25th .

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                    1. Crunchie
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      With i name like Sillett, and a picture of Keith Houchen, i may have guessed that 🙂 , and you have been yes!

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                      1. The 12th Man
                        • 10 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        That diving header against Spurs in the cup final, never forget that.
                        Great memories of him at Hartlepool too. Smashing player.

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                        1. George Sillett
                          • 8 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          He was absolutely dire in the league that season but came alive in the cup.

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                          1. Hairy Potter
                            • 9 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            Did you read the Craig Hope interview with Brian Kilcline few months ago?

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                          2. George Sillett
                            • 8 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            Great article . His defensive partnership with the hugely under rated Trevor Peake was instrumental to Cov's success at that time. I went to all the games in the cup run of 1987 and some journey it was. Winning at Old Trafford in the 4th round when most had written us off and slaughtering Sheff Wed in the QF at Hillsborough where Cyrille was outstanding. We all thought behind the goal that Killer was going to see red but he didn't. Graham Rodger came on to replace him and didn't put a foot wrong. Very happy memories . Daley Thompson playing in a celeb amateur game before ko was pretty useful too !

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          3. panda07
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            It also depends on which charges, if any, were to stick against City.

            If they are found guilty of intentionally falsifying accounts, they should get a much harsher penalty. In the real world false accounting is fraud and punishable by up to seven years in prison. I'm not sure what the differences in accounting guidelines are between what they submit to the government and to the PL are though.

            Everton also had some mitigating factors for their losses too such as COVID and building the new stadium.

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      4. Buck The Trent
        • 12 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        Is Castagne a good option? Thinking to get rid of Matty Cash

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        1. Woy_is_back
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          For sure. He's going under the radar

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        2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          He's fine but I wouldn't really expect much. Fulham haven't kept a clean sheet since September and aren't exactly looking great going forward so I'm not sure how many attacking returns I'd expect from him. He's had 4 shots all season (none in his last 5) and 0.3 xA all season

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        3. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          No. Fulham not much CS potential. He's less of an attacking threat than at Leicester.

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      5. Woy_is_back
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 2 days ago

        So City-Liverpool. Do you think it's going to be a high or low scoring game?

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        1. Andrew D48
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          I think high as both defences not been great probably 0-0 then!

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        2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 2 days ago

          Think it might depend a bit on who plays. If it's Gakpo over Nunez and Grealish/Foden over Doku then I'd expect a tighter game (at least until they get subbed on), but then again these games have tended to be a bit back and forth no matter who plays and City always sit high defensively which is primed for the likes of Salah and Diaz to counter so I'd expect goals either way

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        3. Salarrivederci
          • 8 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          3-2
          Haaland 12’th (no assist)
          Haaland 21’th (Grealish assist)
          TAA 44’th (Salah assist)
          Salah 75’th (TAA assist)
          Haaland 87’th (Bernardo assist)

          Haaland 3
          TAA 2
          Salah 1

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          1. LarryDuff
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Could you be more specific please?

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            1. George Sillett
              • 8 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              He forgot to add Pep being handed a large bag of used £20 notes by the owners after 89 minutes

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      6. nanxun
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        Story on the business-side (back-end) of Roman Abromavich's tenure as owner of Chelsea ....

        https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-11-17/i-worked-for-abramovich-footballers-were-owned-by-oligarch-via-secret-offshore-deals

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      7. dmmcclean
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        Do we know who are the favourites to get to the final in both competitions?

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        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          Federer and Nadal usually.

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          1. The Ilfordian
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Djokovic

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        2. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          No firm favourites in either

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      8. Wobbles
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        Anyone know why Cash is missing from the Poland squad tonight?

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      9. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 1 day ago

        Name the footballer that has played at some point for all 3 Premiership teams to receive a point deduction?

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        1. Manic M
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Yakubu

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            1. The 12th Man
              • 10 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Correct

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        2. cruzex
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          Gordon or gibbs morgan white?

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        3. Woy_is_back
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          Isn't Bowen a really boring pick tbh? He's ceiling is low. I know he's consistent yadada

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          1. The 12th Man
            • 10 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Fancy Doucoure to torture United?

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          2. have you seen cyan
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            season keeper for me.

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            1. Woy_is_back
              • 6 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              No way, he's not even on penalties

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              1. have you seen cyan
                • 4 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                I don't care, he scores pretty much every game it seems lol

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              2. Salarrivederci
                • 8 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                Will probably buy him when my penalty-taking midfield trio (pictured in the article) have to play for country in jan-feb.

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                1. Woy_is_back
                  • 6 Years
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  Dont have son but have the other two ans Eze who's on pens

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                  1. Salarrivederci
                    • 8 Years
                    6 months, 1 day ago

                    Got Salah, Son, Mbuemo, Eze and Palmer 🙂

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                2. have you seen cyan
                  • 4 Years
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  pens is pretty hit and miss though. Spurs have had 0 so far, meanwhile others had 4 or more? Depends which team you pick I guess.

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          3. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 1 day ago

            Fine if you've been OK with losing out on all the points he's brought in.

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            1. Woy_is_back
              • 6 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Rather have Eze, Mbeumo and they cost less. Probably Palmer soon aswell when he gets better fixtures. Salah and Saka the last two

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              1. George Sillett
                • 8 Years
                6 months, 1 day ago

                When the fixtures turn I will get rid . Play the fixtures . Looking at Palmer too , Mbeumo in next week.

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                1. Woy_is_back
                  • 6 Years
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  Yeah usually play the fixtures but Im not going to bring Bowen in just for the Burnley game lol

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                  1. George Sillett
                    • 8 Years
                    6 months, 1 day ago

                    He's a got a few decent after lol

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                    1. Woy_is_back
                      • 6 Years
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      Not really. Wolves have improved massively. Fulham I guess could get a goal bur doubt it

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                      1. Woy_is_back
                        • 6 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        And not even on pens or freekicks. He's an average casual pick

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                        1. have you seen cyan
                          • 4 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          booooo, I had Bowen in GW1 when his ownership was dog dirt!

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                        2. Hairy Potter
                          • 9 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          What does "average casual pick" even mean?

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                          1. Woy_is_back
                            • 6 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            I just made it up lol. But he's a lazy pick. Sure against Burnley he probably scores after that way better options out there

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                        3. George Sillett
                          • 8 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          If you say so . Average casual picks appear to have me at 9k OR .,

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                          1. Woy_is_back
                            • 6 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            Season is far from over though and 9k is not really impressive but everyone have different targets. You are probably just around 30 points above those at 100k.

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                  2. Alan Watts
                    • 5 Years
                    6 months, 1 day ago

                    If ever Bowen has a good chance of a 15 pointer, its this gw.....

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                    1. Woy_is_back
                      • 6 Years
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      I agree but after that he's a really uninspiring pick

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                      1. Alan Watts
                        • 5 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        Seems to have settled into cf role, and team better with Kudus...

                        Maybe he even improves output...?

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                      2. have you seen cyan
                        • 4 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        you only have that opinion because you were late on him. It doesnt change what he is.

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        4. Hairy Potter
          • 9 Years
          6 months, 1 day ago

          England vs Malta or TOTP 1995?

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          1. Manic M
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Totps

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            • Hairy Potter
              • 9 Years
              6 months, 1 day ago

              Black Grape on now so an easy choice.

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              1. Manic M
                  6 months, 1 day ago

                  In the name of the father?

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                  1. Manic M
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      An August number 1 if my memory serves me correct. (And Wikipedia isn’t wrong lol)

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                    • Hairy Potter
                      • 9 Years
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      Reverend Black Grape. Always surprised me that it didn't get banned for some of its lyrics. Saw them live back then and they were unsurprisingly a shambles.

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                      1. Manic M
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          I saw happy Mondays in 88 and it was the same. ShaunnRyder sat on stage for 20 mins not singing while the band played. Looked like he was coming up on an E 😆

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                          1. Hairy Potter
                            • 9 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            Lol, he was perched on a stool and randomly hitting a drum stick on another stool from what I can remember. Bez wasn't there for some reason.

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                  2. Manic M
                      6 months, 1 day ago

                      Wonderwall was number 1 on this day in 95

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                      1. Manic M
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          Their 4th number 1 of the year

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                        • panda07
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          What country are you in. Wonderwall didn’t reach number 1 in the UK if I remember correctly.

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                      2. have you seen cyan
                        • 4 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        are they actually playing Malta. What a joke these breaks are lol

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                        1. Hairy Potter
                          • 9 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          'king Robson and Jerome!

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                      3. The 12th Man
                        • 10 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        TOTP 1995

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                      4. Hairy Potter
                        • 9 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        Forgot that the singer from Dodgy originally looked like Jonathan Creek until the band had a makeover.

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                      5. Hairy Potter
                        • 9 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        Whigfield had another song. Who knew?!

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                        1. George Sillett
                          • 8 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          Jarvis been on yet ?

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                          1. Hairy Potter
                            • 9 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            Yep on the 7pm show

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                      6. Hairy Potter
                        • 9 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        U2 with their Batman Forever song. Just realised that I've somehow never seen Batman Forever.

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                        1. have you seen cyan
                          • 4 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          Botman Forever*

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                        2. Manic M
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            Holy hamburgers potter!

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                          • NorCal Villan
                            • 2 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            You’re not alone

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                        3. Hairy Potter
                          • 9 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          'king Robson & Jerome again!

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                      7. romperstomper
                        • 14 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        Mitoma is -98% and mbueno is +86% and I have exact money 0.3 ITB

                        Do I need to pull the trigger tonight? I don't want Mbueno for 13, wanted him for 14

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                        1. snow pea in repose
                          • 3 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          I think BRE scores v ARS, might do it myself

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                        2. George Sillett
                          • 8 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          You know the risks

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                        3. Crunchie
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 5 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          Probably coming down lolgo Eze for three gws and get mbeumo too gw14. If Son or saka are not great one of them has to go

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                      8. Hairy Potter
                        • 9 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        Ooh England has scored. Just turned it on as Rozalla was annoying me. Has the match been any good?

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                        1. Piggs Boson
                          • 12 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          No. England haven't had a single shot. The goal was an own goal.

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                      9. noissimbus
                        • 2 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        Weird Kane got carded for a dive instead of a penalty. Thought that was text book penalty stuff.

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                        1. Piggs Boson
                          • 12 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          Stonewall.

                          But refs have a different rulebook when it comes to England. That was obvious at the World Cup.
                          https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/22/gareth-southgate-england-referees-iran-world-cup-qatar

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                      10. Hairy Potter
                        • 9 Years
                        6 months, 1 day ago

                        Not sure which was the bigger crime, Kane's dive or Altern 8's live vocals on TOTP 1991. Hardcore u know the score, indeed.

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                        1. Hairy Potter
                          • 9 Years
                          6 months, 1 day ago

                          Had forgotten the dance and shouty nonsense at the end of MJ's Black or White video. Very odd. Still TOTP 1991 redeemed by Vic Reeves & Wonderstuff with Dizzy. Going to give TOTP 1978 a miss.

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                          1. The Knights Template
                            • 10 Years
                            6 months, 1 day ago

                            This should have been top post! Huzzah!

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