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There’s one more Premier League match to come on Sunday.

It’s Manchester United v Arsenal, where the action kicks off at 16:30 BST.

Mikel Arteta has mostly named the same team he sent out against Athletic Club last week.

The only alteration: Ben White in for Jurrien Timber, who had been out for a considerable period and only returned at the end of pre-season.

Viktor Gyokeres starts, with Kai Havertz on the bench.

As for United, Andre Onana has been dropped, so Altay Bayindir starts in goal.

Bryan Mbeumo and Matheus Cunha also feature from the off, but Amad Diallo and Benjamin Sesko are only named among the substitutes.

Mason Mount gets the nod, potentially as a false nine.

LINE-UPS

Manchester United XI: Bayindir, Yoro, de Ligt, Shaw, Dalot, Casemiro, Fernandes, Dorgu, Mbeumo, Cunha, Mount

Subs: Heaton, Fredricson, Heaven, Maguire, Mainoo, Ugarte, Amad, Sesko, Zirkzee

Arsenal XI: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Calafiori, Zubimendi, Odegaard, Rice, Saka, Martinelli, Gyokeres

Subs: Kepa, Mosquera, Timber, Lewis-Skelly, Merino, Nwaneri, Trossard, Madueke, Havertz



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  1. Zimo
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Bruno halfway to DefCon

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Midfielders needs 12 Defcon

      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Just refreshed and he went from 5 > 6

        😎

  2. Count of Monte Hristo
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Cunha and Mbeumo are a dynamic duo.

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Need a striker to get it complete, Sesko good enough? Will see

  3. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Good game to watch this. Tempo has been high since the get go.

    1. F4L
      1 year, 2 months ago

      such an improvement on the borefest this fixture was last season

  4. just a man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Only way Ars score again is from a mistake. This is all United

    1. Tabasco
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Not really

  5. F4L
    1 year, 2 months ago

    noooo cunha so close

  6. Tonyawesome69
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Arsenal need a new LW. I don't think Martinelli will kick on and replicate season 22/23. Probably a mix of him and Arteta setup

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      1 year, 2 months ago

      So obvious they need an upgrade on Martinelli yes here we are 2 years later and he is still first choice LW 😆

      1. Tonyawesome69
        1 year, 2 months ago

        CF was more of a priority but with Gyokeres signed, LW is the next position to improve

        1. Count of Monte Hristo
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Both CF and LW have been a priority for long enough to still be waiting for an upgrade on Martinelli, he just isn’t good enough.
          Arteta will probably sign another CB and CM before he admits he was wrong and buys a new LW.

          1. Tonyawesome69
            1 year, 2 months ago

            CM (Zubimendi) and defence is sorted.

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Needs to do better in 1 on 1's versus very strong defenders

    3. DaveZubie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Mad as it sounds, I thought they should have punted on Rashford for the second half of last season

  7. Brosstan
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Arsenal looking turgid. Lucky howler from Bayindir for a free goal. Saka and Gyokeres poor so far. Ode looking lively but little end product.

    United players looking far more dangerous. Mbeumo, Cunha, Dorgu and Bruno all heavily involved offensively.

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Arsenal finally signed the striker they need but not actually using it to their advantage. He is making good runs and lines but no support really or anyone running into the spaces he is creating

      1. Pariße
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Most of the balls have been super inaccurate too. They need to collect themselves a bit.

    2. Pariße
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Looks like they’re collecting clearances any chance they got. Even when it’s super unnecessary. A nervous game to play to start off the season.

  8. F4L
    1 year, 2 months ago

    united mid triple up is the play, dont even care. this is class so far

    1. DaveZubie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Watching them is soooo much more fun than the last number of years

  9. Zimo
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Arsenal won't even come second this year the way theyre playing. City and Pool just too far ahead.

    1. Tonyawesome69
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Arsenal/Arteta tactics haven't changed from last season.

      1. Deulofail
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Don’t remember them being a counter attacking team last season. Only 45 mins of the season gone as well

      2. Pariße
        1 year, 2 months ago

        They scored from a corner if that’s what you mean. Otherwise it’s been a complete tactical overhaul. Wingers stay inwards and a lot of long balls are being played.

    2. Deulofail
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Pool didn’t look great in their game, plenty of weaknesses

  10. just a man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Ars have been spending all summer just practicing corners 😆

  11. Zimo
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Fiori YC

  12. SINGH
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Lol all these experts talking about Arsenal this Arsenal that when it's only the first game of the season away at Old Trafford.

    1. el polako
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I can already tell you what is going to happen.
      At some point, one of the starting XI will get injured, once again title will go elsewhere and Gunners fans will be blaming the injury and praise Arteta waiting for the next season.

      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Cheap take lacking in any context

        1. el polako
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Bookmark it.

          1. Pariße
            1 year, 2 months ago

            You really think you did something there. Laughable 😆

            Your sample is 45min at Old Trafford, while City and Liverpool played relegation candidates Wolves and Bournemouth with all their forst choice defenders gone.

          2. Pariße
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Also nothing easier than predicting who’s not gonna be a champion.

            I don’t think United, Sunderland, Wolves, Leeds, Villa, Nottingham will quite pull off the title this year either.

            1. el polako
              1 year, 2 months ago

              You’re not wrong there, it’s very easy to predict that this negative, slow and boring Arsenal team won’t win the title.

              1. Pariße
                1 year, 2 months ago

                Great analysis. 😀

        2. Brosstan
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Last season is the context

      2. SINGH
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Not worried about that, we have more depth than last season plus the likelihood of having the same number of injuries last season is minimal

        1. Digital-Real
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Arteta doesn't play with a striker, Gyokores was a social media signing, fans putting pressure on the club to sign a striker.

          Consequently, Arteta focred to change how Arsenal play to accommodate Gyokores.

          This will be Arteta's last season.

          1. SINGH
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Yes because Aubameyang was a dream and never played under Arteta

            1. Brosstan
              1 year, 2 months ago

              Arteta wanted him out since he took over tbf.

              1. SINGH
                1 year, 2 months ago

                Not really, he started all the games until Dec 2020 when he started turning up late to training. Arteta moved him out straight away. Played Lacazette the following season but he flopped as well. Jesus was brought it and was fantastic but injuries have kept him down.

                1. Digital-Real
                  1 year, 2 months ago

                  Arteta inherited Auba didn't he?
                  Jesus is a false 9. As I said earlier, Artets doesn't play with a striker. Why did he buy Havertz instead of a striker?
                  Gyokores was a PR move to appease the fans who were demanding a striker. In this system Saka, Ode and Martinelli are ineffective. You only saw Saka get into the box and have shots after Gyokeres was subbed off.

          2. Pariße
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Berta was doom scrolling and said they’re already calling Šeško Tesco, let’s go for the guy who looks good on FIFA.

            1. Digital-Real
              1 year, 2 months ago

              You'll learn later this season what I mean.

  13. Scalper
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Manutd look fantastic for first game of the season. Dorgu looks a real gem.

  14. SINGH
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Wirtz for Gakpo and Konsa for Dorgu/vdv?

  15. Zimo
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Games calling for Sesko. United need a focal point

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      He'll be on soon

  16. chocolove
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Wtf, Gyokeres comb his hair more than shoot the ball

  17. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Thinking of playing my Free hit this week, thoughts?

    This is my current team:
    Verbruggen
    Milenkovic / Porro / diouf
    Wirtz / gakpo / reijnders / palmer
    Haaland / Watkins / fullkrug

    Sels / KDH / tosin / konsa

  18. Sting
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Fernandes is Anderson for 3.5m more

    1. el polako
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Is Anderson on pens, free kicks and corners?

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      The price of a penalty taker? 😉

    3. Pedersen
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Did you calculate in the 90th minut penalty points ?

    4. F4L
      1 year, 2 months ago

      bruno this season

      5 goals from pens. 3-5 assists from set-pieces. 30 points from DCs. 10+ g+a from open play. some bonus. it'll all add up

  19. Pedersen
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Haven't been seeing the game. Whom pass the eye test?

    1. Zimo
      1 year, 2 months ago

      United attack

      1. Pedersen
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Mbeuma and Cunha? Cunha going to play?

        1. Zimo
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Mbeumo Cunha Bruno Dorgu all looking decent.

          1. Pedersen
            1 year, 2 months ago

            Thanks mate. Funny Dorgu is not known for being attacking

    2. Calafiornication
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Dorgu also

    3. Pedersen
      1 year, 2 months ago

      What about Gyökeres?

      1. Bored Ape Jota Club
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Hard nope

      2. Bobby Digital
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Haven't seen the ball really. Don't know if Arsenal have the creativity to pick him out.

        1. Mother Farke
          1 year, 2 months ago

          He had two chances in quick succession to pick a pass towards the end of the half and he fluffed both.

          Odegaard just as guilty.

      3. Zimo
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Not amazing so far. Arsenal as a whole haven't been able to attack much so can't say. He's a flat track bully based on his Portugal record so he probably does well next game but I wouldn't want till GW7 after that.

      4. just a man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Looks lost. Out of his depth.

      5. Pedersen
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Sounds like the comment that he is more busy combing his hair than shooting on goal is correct then. Thanks

  20. F4L
    1 year, 2 months ago

    amorim must smell blood. amad on for dalot, just run at calafiori on a yellow. sesko on at 60 fitness permitting, mount is doing decent

  21. chocolove
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Bruno the DC darling, glad to start with him in my team

    1. Bobby Digital
      1 year, 2 months ago

      I'm already making plans to get rid for Cunha

    2. Nomar
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Not actually doing anything, FPL wise, though is he!

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 year, 2 months ago

        "FPL wise" has changed with DC 😉

        1. NoOneCares
          1 year, 2 months ago

          No it hasn't.

    3. Zalk
      1 year, 2 months ago

      4p in a game like this is very much what I expected

    4. F4L
      1 year, 2 months ago

      just hoping he avoids a yellow this match, diving abit into tackles

    5. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Anderson got 11, I fear Bruno getting exactly same amount.

  22. Count of Monte Hristo
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Arteta such a negative, cowardly manager. Lewis Skelly has been brilliant for Arsenal yet the manager wants to plank 4 centre backs across the back line and play for set pieces. Such an ugly team, they will win nothing.

    1. Bobby Digital
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Does Arteta have the skills to change his tactics for Gyokeres?

      1. just a man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Does he realise he bought him and not Sesko? I’m not even sure he realises he needs to change tactics. Think he wants Gyokores to adapt

    2. SINGH
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Loooool

    3. Deulofail
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Calafiori is an attacking asset in open play, as is Ben White. Quite a bizarre comment. Pep plays 5 CBs and he’s a genius.

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Exactly

      2. Count of Monte Hristo
        1 year, 2 months ago

        If you like to fail he is your man.

        1. Deulofail
          1 year, 2 months ago

          Calafiori?

  23. _Greg
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Doesn't make sense to me that Bayindir was preferred to Tom Heaton today.

    1. SINGH
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Greatest GK in the making. Even Barthez said Bayandir is the greatest in Man Utds history

    2. Zalk
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Has Heaton even played anything in recent years?

      1. Zimo
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Was doing well in preseason.

    3. just a man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      They need to bring Vitek back

  24. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Early season Raya always bangs, hang onto the CS and 1 more save please xx

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Ars defence has been a bit shaky imo.

  25. Bram
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Odegaard leading the DC stakes on 9 already - who'd have thunk it!

  26. Deulofail
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Roy Keane’s advice to Gks: “Come with violence”

    Not a surprise 😀

    1. Zalk
      1 year, 2 months ago

      He must be one of the whiniest people I've heard commenting on football.

    2. GunnerStorm
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Terrible advice. Keane still lives in the past

    3. Pariße
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Ask where Donnarumma got his scar.

  27. Ruinenlust
    1 year, 2 months ago

    I was told Murillo was a defcon magnet? What happen?!

    1. Zimo
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Brentford not good

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Even Anderson failed to get defcon pts, with the smallest possible margin. But if the opponent is unable to attack, it's difficult to get them.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        1 year, 2 months ago

        Well, they still scored 😆 😆 😆

  28. bialk
    1 year, 2 months ago

    If Gokeres survives this game, Watkins to him for next week?

    1. Unliklinho
      1 year, 2 months ago

      Watkins has Brentford next week

  29. TafOnTour1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 year, 2 months ago

    Mbeumo looking very good early doors, potential transfer in for a differential?!

  30. just a man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 year, 2 months ago

    2 goals from Utd or 3?