FFS Cup
17 December 2025 236 comments
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The FFS Open Cup and the FFS Members Cup continue in Gameweek 17 – and we’re bringing you the latest results and draws here.

Both contests have £300 worth of prizes on offer, with a full breakdown towards the bottom of this piece.

FFS OPEN CUP

Although YNWA91 (4,117th) successfully progressed to the sixth round after a tight 79-78 victory over Schiffy11, the honour of highest-ranked manager now belongs to Athletico Timbo (1,771st).

The new leader won 93-84 against an unlucky Terry22, one of three to depart despite recording 82 or more points, alongside Frazek HotSpurs (83) and stooshermadness (82). Yet Waxfoot only needed 61 of them to get past jaxxden.

Two managers bettered Timbo’s tally: thalliday1985 (98) and BilboBaggins (96).

Next up, the former has a really tight encounter against ekiekiwapang. Ranked 60,159th and 65,749th in the world, only two points separate them.

Meanwhile, Ze_Austin, down around 2.52 millionth overall, is facing rascalbear.

FFS MEMBERS CUP

In both competitions, all former champions have already been eliminated.

Wilkas44 (7,506th) remains the highest-placed manager, having narrowly got past FPL Bielsa in an 80-78 win.

He’s about to face the lowest-ranked team of Luggy10 (887k), but maybe it’s not quite the ‘David v Goliath’ initially assumed, as the latter bagged a huge 103 points thanks to Triple Captain Bukayo Saka.

This defeated an unlucky jacknz, bowing out on 82 points, just like Macboro. Also out are Yanti2 (81) and Mendip Muppets (81).

After Luggy10, the best Gameweek 16 scores came from Dempele (98) and Asim Ahmed Khan (97).

HOW DO THE CUP COMPETITIONS WORK?

The FFS Cup is very similar to the Fantasy Premier League’s own cup game.

Entrants who qualify for the first round were randomly drawn against each other and the winner of the tie is whoever has the highest score from that Gameweek, minus points spent on transfers (like in the original game and in head-to-head scores).

In the event of a draw, the manager highest in the overall FPL rankings after the tie will progress.

WHAT IS THE GAMEWEEK SCHEDULE?

Fantasy Football Scout Open Cup Round Dates

  • Qualifying – Gameweek 11
  • Round 1 – Gameweek 12
  • Round 2 – Gameweek 13
  • Round 3 – Gameweek 14
  • Round 4 – Gameweek 15
  • Round 5 – Gameweek 16
  • Round 6 – Gameweek 17
  • Quarter-Final – Gameweek 18
  • Semi-Finals – Gameweek 19
  • Final and third-place play-off – Gameweek 20

Fantasy Football Scout Members Cup Round Dates

  • Qualifying – Gameweek 12
  • Round 1 – Gameweek 13
  • Round 2 – Gameweek 14
  • Round 3 – Gameweek 15
  • Round 4 – Gameweek 16
  • Round 5 – Gameweek 17
  • Quarter-Final – Gameweek 18
  • Semi-Finals – Gameweek 19
  • Final and third-place play-off – Gameweek 20

WHEN ARE THE FIXTURES RELEASED?

Where possible, we will publish the fixture list for each round before each Gameweek deadline.

PRIZES

Overall Prizes
The prizes for both cups are as follows:

1st Place: £150 Amazon voucher
2nd Place: £100 Amazon voucher
3rd Place: £50 Amazon voucher

price change predictions

FPL Marc Broadcaster, writer and overthinker. Hoping that ‘differential potential’ will catch on.

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  1. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Is Thiago injured? Not even in the squad.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      How many points did you get last GW, you never said. Must have been good?

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        108. GWR 12.8k, OR 1.9m to 800k. I’ve had worse weeks 🙂

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          Like every week from GW6 to GW14, where a hideous run of red arrows saw me fall from 216k, to over 2.4m!

          1. The Knights Template
            • 12 Years
            4 months, 1 day ago

            Nice! I was 170k in GW12 and have managed to work my way down to 498k with my FH and five trades! Not sure what’s going on with Thiago but I got rid earlier in the week for Ekitike.

            1. The Bandit
              • 15 Years
              4 months, 1 day ago

              I’d have likely done tha same move, but can’t afford without a hit, and there’s nobody else I really want to sell

    2. Athletico Timbo
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Henderson not in either so both could just be rested. No news yet as far as I’m aware.

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Cheers

  2. Captain Mal
    • 1 Year
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Wissa starts for Newcastle. Not a threat to Woltemade for this Saturday (in terms of starting I mean, he probably gets 15-20 mins), but shows he is fit enough to challenge for a start during the festive period, potentially against Burnley or Leeds.

    12.26 Manchester United (A)
    12.30 Burnley (A)
    01.04 Crystal Palace (H)
    01.07 Leeds (H)
    01.10 Bournemouth (H) FA Cup

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      I can them starting both long term. Wissa and Toney were great at Brentford.

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        *can see

      2. Athletico Timbo
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        4231 with Woltemade as the 10 I’d wager. Time will tell.

      3. Captain Mal
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 1 day ago

        I don't know. LW is already crowded with Gordon and Barnes. I don't see Howe changing his 4-3-3 and compromising his midfield trio to accommodate a second striker either.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          As Timbo said, time will tell, but I can’t imagine that either went there not expecting to start, or that the club forked out the money with the expectation of either being on the bench.

          1. Captain Mal
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 1 day ago

            Hm, that sounds similar to the Isak/Ekitike argument...
            Anyway, they'll probably try it at some point against weak opposition and could stick with it depending on results.

  3. BrockLanders
    • 11 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Do you ever look at your starting 11 and think, why am I even considering taking a punt and using a transfer (have 3FTs) when there's a good chance I'll be benching the likes of a Minteh..

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Yeah, I’m currently benching Minteh and not too happy about it

  4. Athletico Timbo
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Into the last 16 I go. Prolly get knocked this week though. Tough tie.

  5. Crazy RedDevil
    • 13 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    My current team is as below:
    Verbruggen
    Timber van hecke chalobah
    Saka Kudus Foden wilson Minteh
    Haaland Thiago

    Subs: Dub, van de berg , Raul, Anderson

    2ft, 2.6 itb.

    I want to play bench boost this gw. Please suggest me whether I should bring in Tavernier, Petrovic for Kudus, Dubravka or should I only bring Semenyo for Kudus?

    1. Athletico Timbo
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      I wouldn’t waste a transfer on Dubravka personally

  6. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Bobb dead. Foden coming on

    1. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Bobb you had one job.

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Bobb a job!

  7. Heiro
    • 16 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Evening all,

    Seems a little points chasey but Bruno G to Wilson?

    Bruno has Chelsea & United next
    Wilson has Forest & West Ham

    Could move back when the fixtures change.

    1. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Yes

  8. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Disgrace of a lineup from Pep. Desperate to secure that top-four finish over winning a trophy.

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Rightly so. Being in the CL is everything.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          Eh?

          1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            4 months, 1 day ago

            My post mirrors Tommy's.

            Both teams are resting players for this match.

            City are doing this to try and win the PL; Brentford are doing this to try and stay in the PL.

            If we criticise one team for resting players to prioritise a competition; surely we do the same for another doing the same?

        2. L S P
          • 10 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          So it took you well over an hour to come up with this troll post?

          1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            4 months, 1 day ago

            It's not even close to trolling. And nice one for doing the chronological maths.

            1. Punned It
              • 1 Year
              4 months, 1 day ago

              I'm not sure what your day's been like, but you're sure you wouldn't rather lean back with a nice pint and watch something fun on the telly? That Korean black and white chef thing on Netflix is absolutely great!

              1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                4 months, 1 day ago

                I'd planned to relax with the City v Brentford game, but I can't believe the disrespect that Pep is showing the Cup.

                1. Punned It
                  • 1 Year
                  4 months, 1 day ago

                  Ha! Fine.

    2. Studs Up
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Yeah, run the players into the ground.

        1. Studs Up
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          And your point is?

          1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            4 months, 1 day ago

            Did you read the other person's post? It was trying to say that prioritising one competition over another was bad,

            1. Studs Up
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              4 months, 1 day ago

              Is it though?...when certain clubs 2nd stringers are good enough to compete.

              1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                4 months, 1 day ago

                Both clubs are playing a mix of second strings and first XI (except City, who went academy!) Both are prioritising competitions that mean more to them.

                1. Studs Up
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  4 months, 1 day ago

                  And somehow the academy is leading...and your point again?

                  1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    4 months, 1 day ago

                    I'm not sure you've entirely grasped what I'm saying.

                    Tommy's original post criticised Brentford for resting their players; I said I think it makes sense because they want to prioritise staying in the PL, which is obviously better than a long-shot attempt at winning the Caraboa Cup.

                    City have also rested players; almost certainly to prioritise PL/CL runs. I posted the above message saying it's disgraceful for resting players. Not sure how else to explain the ironic comparison.

                    The fact City's academy is winning does rather underline my point.

            2. Studs Up
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              4 months, 1 day ago

              Besides, my reply was to your post. What has that to do with what others said

              1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                4 months, 1 day ago

                I can't help you with that.

                1. Studs Up
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  4 months, 1 day ago

                  Trying to justify a post by referring to others...great argument yeah

                  1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    4 months, 1 day ago

                    You're joking, right? Why else would I have used his original phrasing and structure word-for-word bar a couple of changes?!

    3. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      You really think Arsenal will win the league? 😆

      1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Villa, probably. At least they play their main XI in cup competitions.

        1. PartyTime
          • 4 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          Haha well... Arsenal usually choke early February. It's just funny to see them choke in December

          1. Gubby-Allen
            • 4 Years
            4 months, 1 day ago

            Do they? They broke the PL record last year for most points in the last 18 games.

            1. fedolefan
              • 11 Years
              4 months, 1 day ago

              Arsenal got 74 points last year and you're saying they broke a record in the second half of the season? What is that record and what points did they get. The points in the first 20 games may be hilarious for a title contender.

    4. x.jim.x
      • 11 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      How have you rattled so many with this hahaha

      1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        I really don't know haha. Maybe they're City fans? Maybe my post is too obtuse?

        1. Punned It
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 1 day ago

          Just seemed a bit unnecessarily angry, really. Don't think that many cared much about the original post. Did you have that pint, at least?

  9. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    cherki great goal

  10. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Wow, Cherki 😯

  11. tucaoneo
    • 7 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Oh no my boy Foden is forced on so early

    1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Your boy Foden has a lot of disputed parentage in the FPL community.

      I suppose it does take a village.

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        He was created with discount midichlorians!

  12. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Start 1 of Enzo, Woltemade, Anderson and Andersen

    1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Andersun.

    2. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Vol te Ma der

    3. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      In this order for me
      Anderson
      Woltemade
      Enzo
      Andersen

    4. The Night Trunker.
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Not Wolt.

  13. leo_messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Is Gakpo to Semenyo worth a shot?

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Yeh

  14. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Wissa wagon

  15. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Wissa G

  16. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Wissa scores after 10 minutes played for his new club

  17. Manani
    • 14 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    A. Rice
    B. Rogers
    C. Save (play Anderson)

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      B

  18. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Wissa

    1. Assisting the assister
      • 10 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      When do we do the transfer?

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Now, if not sooner!

  19. The Night Trunker.
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    He has arrived.
    Goodbye Wolt.
    .

  20. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Lucic G

    1. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Robinson A

  21. The Night Trunker.
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Newcastle Burned out.
    Getting rid ASAP.

  22. Bigbars
    • 15 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Let's see how many mins he gets today, but could Wissa be a differential. Loathe to join the bandwagoners and ditch Woltemade for Ekitike, I think spurs may turn up for once,

    1. The Night Trunker.
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Spurs may turn up for once, for once.
      If Spurs were a pantomime they wouldn't even be funny.

      1. Bigbars
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        It is pantomime season, you never know, spurs could do a number on Liverpool after their poor showing last week

        1. The Night Trunker.
          • 2 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          He's behind you!

        2. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          I love panto innuendo. A girl recently asked me for an example, so I gave her one.

          1. The Night Trunker.
            • 2 Years
            4 months, 1 day ago

            Gave her what?

            1. The Bandit
              • 15 Years
              4 months, 1 day ago

              Seriously? 😆

              1. The Night Trunker.
                • 2 Years
                4 months, 1 day ago

                😆

                1. Bigbars
                  • 15 Years
                  4 months, 1 day ago

                  lol

                2. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  4 months, 1 day ago

                  I'm sure someone will tell me to go to bed or change my sheets, but this is the same guy who missed the point on my post earlier.

                  I'm *just* saying.

                  1. Bigbars
                    • 15 Years
                    4 months, 1 day ago

                    I think it's all a bit fun.. reminds me of the heath ledger joker clip from Batman, why so serious.... you cant even have a laugh without someone taking it the wrong way. I feel for comics in this age.. must be tough to navigate this minefield of a world to measure their material doesn't get them cancelled.

                    1. Punned It
                      • 1 Year
                      4 months, 1 day ago

                      I think often they're just genuinely unfunny. But it certainly feels better to call it being cancelled.

    2. Assisting the assister
      • 10 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Could be a great diff

      1. Bigbars
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        That's what i'm thinking, as every man and his dog will jump on the ekitike transfer, need to go left field to try make some inroads, its all about timing,

    3. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Ekitike is not a one week transfer

      1. The Night Trunker.
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        And not just for Xmas.

      2. Bigbars
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        could be if i Free Hit Wissa in and maybe get ekitike for the Wolves game

        1. Lanley Staurel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          What if Wissa started so Wolte can start next GW?

          1. Bigbars
            • 15 Years
            4 months, 1 day ago

            True.. could be... and ive just realised they are the early saturday ko... we all know how they generally go

  23. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Who takes oreilly's place ifvrested v WHU?

    1. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Hes been subbed ready for the weekend

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Oh

    2. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Genuinely thought you were referring to a Norwegian Second Division team that West Ham were playing midweek.

  24. MetallicaJack93
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Play De Cuyper or Guehi?

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Toss a coin on that one

  25. The Hunt
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    Admittedly my TV picture is set to "Vivid" but Fulham's kit tonight is camouflaging them from the Newcastle players.

    Subterfuge.

  26. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    cherki and oreilly taken off

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      O’Really?

  27. Slitherene
    • 8 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    RmFHt

    Raya | Dubravka
    Gvardiol Calafiori Senesi
    Saka Foden Semenyo Wilson
    Haaland Ekitike Thiago
    | vdBerg Mukiele Miley

    Is the bench too thin?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      How many of the bench do you think sub on?

      1. Slitherene
        • 8 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Worried about Gvardiol and Calafiori.

        Realistically 1 from the bench

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          4 months, 1 day ago

          Happy with VDB?

      2. Slitherene
        • 8 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        One punt you'd consider getting in?

    2. tucaoneo
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      You have the same front 7 as my regular team... Good luck.

  28. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 1 day ago

    How many points
    1, vdv tot - 4 if gets defcon
    2, oreilly - 6-10

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      Bowen could score out of nothing 😛

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Just dont trust liverpool

  29. BR510
      4 months, 1 day ago

      For next week: Rice and Thiago to Bruno F and Guiu? (Play 442)

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        No

      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Not the worst idea, but if I owned him, I’d be reluctant to sell Rice. Don’t like 4 in defence personally, prefer 3-5-2

    • Sir Michael Taker
      • 11 Years
      4 months, 1 day ago

      I've been seeing on multiple sources online that Lewis Hall is injured again (hamstring) hence not being in the squad tonight. Newcastle very short on defensive numbers all of a sudden

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        Who else could play at LB?

      2. The Night Trunker.
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 1 day ago

        That's huge for them if sincere.
        Will defo swerve now.