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6 September 2026 371 comments
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Aston Villa were held to a stalemate away at Hull City on Saturday, despite creating enough chances to win the game.

Hull meanwhile are still yet to concede a goal this season.

Here are our Scout Notes from the MKM Stadium.

ANOTHER HULL CLEAN SHEET

Three matches into a season is, of course, a very small sample size.

However, with seven points from nine – and three clean sheets! – Hull have started 2026/27 really well.

Defensively, they have been superb.

“In my opinion, defence wins titles and of course, our title is to stay in the league. 100%. You will always create some chances.” – Sergej Jakirovic

John Egan (£4.0m), who was Hull’s best defender on Saturday, also discussed their defensive strength.

“A lot of work goes into it on the training pitch. It probably started in the play-offs last year when we moved to this shape, and we have a lot of experienced players. We’ve got lads who want to work together and defend for each other. So far so good. We just have to keep improving.” – John Egan

No team has had less of the ball this season than Hull (28%), but they are comfortable without possession, with their low block proving difficult to break down.

Goalkeeper Konstantinos Tzolakis (£4.6m), plus centre-backs Semi Ajayi (£4.1m), Nobel Mendy (£4.0m) and Egan, are subsequently offering excellent value in their respective positions.

Further forward, winger Mohamed Belloumi (£5.0m) hit the crossbar on Saturday, with the majority of Hull’s attacks funnelled down his flank.

Oli McBurnie (£5.5m) also failed to make proper contact from a decent Ryan Giles (£4.0m) delivery late on.

£4.5M MIDFIELDER IMPRESSES

But despite Hull’s clean sheet, Villa really should have scored.

Emiliano Buendia (£6.0m), who was poor, and John McGinn (£5.4m) both missed big chances, while an early Nicolas Jackson (£6.5m) header drifted just wide of the post.

George Hemmings (£4.5m) was denied, too.

The youngster also supplied the cross for Buendia’s missed opportunity, which he somehow blazed over the bar from a few yards out.  

Hemmings has now started all three of Villa’s Premier League matches this season, keeping Alejandro Garnacho (£5.9m) out of the team.

“George, he worked last year the whole year with us and played minutes. He is performing fantastic and getting better. He created one assist for Buendia. He is working in the intensity and the kilometres we need. He is doing it. I think he is a player now, clearly, to be in the Premier League.

“Then, we have other players who joined us who need to adapt to us in training, playing matches, and Garnacho is in this way. We need their performance to try to add things, working and getting numbers. Garnacho is in this way. How he is responding, George, is really fantastic.” – Unai Emery on George Hemmings, via the Birmingham Mail

But although Villa were on top for the majority of this match, they failed to convert their chances before both teams cancelled each other out for the final half hour.

SUZUKI HAUL

Villa also secured their first clean sheet of the season, of course.

Goalkeeper Zion Suzuki (£5.0m) in particular impressed.

Making just his second start for the club, his distribution was superb once more. Indeed, it was his pass out to Hemmings which started Villa’s best move of the match.

He also completed 36 of his 38 attempted passes (95% pass accuracy), made four saves and claimed the maximum bonus to total 10 points.

“Very good. Last week he played his first match, and he played fantastic. We conceded one goal, but he played very well. Today, he did another step forward more with a clean sheet. He dominated with the ball possession, adding him to build up and help us to be patient.

“Then, sometimes as well, he did good long balls to our strikers and wingers. He also dominated when we needed some actions defensively, with crosses and set-pieces.” – Unai Emery on Zion Suzuki, via the Birmingham Mail

A run of three games without a win is hardly ideal for Villa, who started last season poorly too, but the clean sheet is a positive.

They also have the likes of Johan Manzambi (£5.9m), Leon Goretzka (£6.0m) and Ibrahim Mbaye (£6.0m) to come in. The latter was an unused substitute at Hull, having only arrived on deadline day.

Elsewhere, Tyrone Mings (£4.5m) was preferred to Pau Torres (£4.5m) at the back, perhaps for his physicality. Maybe because Villa play against Club Brugge in the Champions League on Tuesday, too.

“Clean sheet and creating chances, then trying to [make] the next step forward, being more clinical. But this is the way, this is the structure we created and we built before, and again we want for the next weeks, months and years, hopefully get again.” – Unai Emery

MATCH ANALYSIS


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  1. _Ninja_
    • 16 Years
    2 hours, 17 mins ago

    Tempted to FH this week, worth it?

    Current team
    Verb
    Calafori Shaw Egan
    Bruno Mbuemo Foden Szob
    Haaland Pedro DCL

    Kinsky Gross Davies Hume

    FH team would be 352, something like..

    Kinsky Dub
    Califori White De Cuyper..... Jaquet Mitchell
    Palmer Rogers Saka Bruno Gakpo
    Isak Pedro ...Egeli

    1. The Philosopher
      • 6 Years
      2 hours, 1 min ago

      No City while they have a juicy fixture is diabolical.

      1. _Ninja_
        • 16 Years
        1 hour, 44 mins ago

        maybe, but only 1 goal in the last 3 visits to OT, Utd seem to raise their game v City last few years.

    2. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 hours ago

      I would wildcard

  2. FPL Sanky
    • 2 Years
    2 hours, 17 mins ago

    Foden to Rogers now or wait? Rogers price going up tonight but plenty to happen during the week

    1. The Philosopher
      • 6 Years
      2 hours, 2 mins ago

      Looked pretty poor apart from the goal.

      1. FPL Sanky
        • 2 Years
        1 hour, 44 mins ago

        Looked better than Foden plus Hull has to start playing like a promoted team someday

        1. ameisin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 hour, 34 mins ago

          Sounds like you've convinced yourself so just do it anyway.

      2. JBG
        • 8 Years
        1 hour, 44 mins ago

        So he was Rogers?

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 hour, 44 mins ago

      I did Cherki to him. Che has attacking trio that will shoot so much, that Hull must start conceding.

  3. The Philosopher
    • 6 Years
    2 hours, 16 mins ago

    Any chance Brobbey drops more before IB? Don't wanna waste a FT on the fker is all.

  4. Vasshin
    • 7 Years
    2 hours, 13 mins ago

    Should I use Wildcard? Only 1ft left?

    Verbuggen
    Calafiori White OReilly
    Bruno Bumo Cherki Semenyo
    Isak Pedro Dcl

    Kinsky ballard maguire slater

    Thanks

    1. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 hour, 12 mins ago

      I think I would. Timing feels right with the Manchester derby and the Chelsea swing etc...

      Price market is really starting to move too.

  5. Wolfman180
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 hours, 12 mins ago

    Szoboszlai or Cherki to Rogers?

    1. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 hour, 26 mins ago

      Cherki

      That rotation with Foden is going to be a headache.

    2. GCHILD2K16
      • 9 Years
      just now

      Neither. Both will get more GA than Rogers

  6. Moon Dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    2 hours, 12 mins ago

    The Haaland & Bruno pricing has been great for the game. Well played Mark & Towers. Going to be a fun FPL season.

    1. JBG
      • 8 Years
      1 hour, 40 mins ago

      Not sure if serious?

      Because besides those 2 every other players stinks.

      1. Moon Dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 hour, 37 mins ago

        Too cheap?

        I kind of like the gluttony of options. You only have access to the Saka, Palmer, Mbeumo, Barcola market if you lose one of Bruno or Haaland.

        I'm enjoying the WC tinkering anyway. Lots of options.

        1. JBG
          • 8 Years
          1 hour, 35 mins ago

          Neither too cheap nor too expensive. Their just no value players atm

          1. Zalk
            • 15 Years
            1 hour, 27 mins ago

            Isn't that the definition of good pricing?

            1. Brosstan
              • 12 Years
              1 hour, 9 mins ago

              Yea this... "Value players" is terrible for the game. Because oncee "value players" emerge, every single good manager will have them in their team, making them irrelevant.

              1. JBG
                • 8 Years
                1 hour, 2 mins ago

                Used wrong word here I guess.. meant no players are screaming "get me now". Way too many gambles/shite players. Mainly because of the shite "system based" ways most teams play.

                1. Glaswegian Gaffer
                  5 mins ago

                  I agree with the gambles. There are English players being picked in Fantasy teams that wasn't chosen for World Cup due to massive dip in form in recent seasons. We are all in same position and we're going to have to take risks. We don't have a prime Lamps or Gerrard to pick from, so we need to make do with the lkes of Foden, Mbuemo, Palmer etc.

    2. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 36 mins ago

      They didn't have much of a choice. Not gonna lie, I miss when there were loads of premium picks in the game. Next season should be a lot better in that regard I hope.

      1. Moon Dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 hour, 29 mins ago

        Fingers crossed we see some superstars rise up. Maybe Barcola ends up being a 25 goal beast, who knows.

  7. Jacquet of all trades, mast…
    • 7 Years
    2 hours, 11 mins ago

    Keep Semenyo ?

    1. The Philosopher
      • 6 Years
      1 hour, 40 mins ago

      Yeah, he'll explode soon. I'm keeping till WC6 at least.

      1. JBG
        • 8 Years
        1 hour, 37 mins ago

        Explode the chalk off the sideline from running up and down?

        1. He'll feast on Shaw

          1. JBG
            • 8 Years
            2 mins ago

            He plays LW no?

      2. ameisin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 hour, 31 mins ago

        His xG in the first 3 games have been 0.06, 0.06 and 0.05. He's not going to explode in this system.

        1. Jacquet of all trades, mast…
          • 7 Years
          1 hour, 5 mins ago

          Do you have his xA?

          1. ameisin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 hour ago

            0.02, 0.57 and 0.34

            Again, not great against 3 pretty weak teams.

            When city dominate possession, which is still most games, he's on the byline.

      3. Brosstan
        • 12 Years
        1 hour, 7 mins ago

        0 chance he explodes. 6 pointers is what you will get from him at most.

      4. GCHILD2K16
        • 9 Years
        10 mins ago

        Unlikely to explode as maresca has him stuck to the sideand crossong balls in so rarely cuts inside to shoot. Go study his last 3 games, read comments from maresca.

    2. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 hour, 29 mins ago

      Nah I'm ditching on my WC.

      4.3 ppg over 3 great fixtures is not good enough. Too few big chances.

    3. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 21 mins ago

      I am. You can have him, Palmer, Saka and Haaland if you brave going without Penandes

    4. Jacquet of all trades, mast…
      • 7 Years
      1 hour, 4 mins ago

      Cheers all . Not feeling that bad for ditching him

  8. OverTinker
    • 8 Years
    2 hours, 7 mins ago

    Tzolis is a trap or should we keep?

    1. The Philosopher
      • 6 Years
      1 hour, 31 mins ago

      Don't buy don't sell rn imo

    2. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 hour, 19 mins ago

      I think he's a decent option.

      But there are so many great replacement midfielders and yet so few top defenders, so I'm going to use my 3 Arsenal slots in defence.

      A solid hold, probably not worth a FT, but I'm ditching on WC. Just VORP thing for me (Value over Replacement Player)

    3. GCHILD2K16
      • 9 Years
      1 min ago

      Keep. He started and assisted. Who else will replace him? Eze is not effect on the left.

  9. Karan_G14
    • 10 Years
    2 hours, 6 mins ago

    Verb
    Calafiori Konsa Ajer
    Bruno Rogers Szobo Groß
    Haaland Pedro DCL

    (Kinsky Ndiaye Davis Maguire)
    0.5m

    GTG for GW4?
    Would you wildcard or free hit this?

  10. JT11fc
    • 7 Years
    2 hours, 3 mins ago

    Rank so far
    gw1 691k
    gw2 722k BB
    gw3 717k FH

    At least Im not dropping haha

    1. fantasyfog
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 58 mins ago

      After week 1 I was 7 mil +, down to 220k now, hoping to keep steady for a bit and hold my ground

      1. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        1 hour, 35 mins ago

        Weesh nice

  11. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    2 hours, 3 mins ago

    Planning to fh4 gw4 to load up on arse chels and pool v sunderland Fulham and hull. Means I can ditch united assets v city

    Gw5 I play united assets v Fulham and dcl v Palace And wildcard gw6

    Sound like a plan? Current team with 1ft below. Thanks

    Verbruggen (kinsky)
    Calafiori maguire ajer (wgan davis)
    Bruno mbeumo Szobo foden (sangere forest)
    Haaland pedro dcl

    1. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      2 hours ago

      Looked at it a FH only looks worth it this week if you go against Haaland otherwise it’s not possible to own all of Saka, Palmer, Isak, Gabriel, VVD, Rogers & Gakpo alongside Haaland.

    2. #1 Arne Engels Fan
      • 2 Years
      1 hour, 59 mins ago

      Nothing more dangerous than a United side heading into a big game at OT after a disappointing result

      Those ditching will be punished imo. Also City look terrible defensively

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 58 mins ago

      sounds good but i think this manchester derby is tough to call goals wise. could be 4+ tbh, neither defence looks totally on it this season

    4. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 hour, 58 mins ago

      On the exact same plan, stick with it

      1. Flynny
        • 11 Years
        1 hour, 51 mins ago

        Yup manc derby impossible to predict.

        Think I'll go no haaland or bruno as most will captain chelsea player

  12. Dhiggins100
    2 hours, 1 min ago

    A- sangare + DCL
    B- gross + wissa

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      2 hours ago

      b

    2. #1 Arne Engels Fan
      • 2 Years
      1 hour, 57 mins ago

      A

    3. waltzingmatildas
      • 15 Years
      1 hour, 56 mins ago

      B

  13. F4L
    • 11 Years
    2 hours, 1 min ago

    Kelleher
    Gabriel VVD Lacroix Murillo
    Bruno Palmer Saka Szobo King
    Pedro

    Thiaw and fodder galore. 1FT 0.0itb

    easy save FT right? only thing that sorta interests me is murillo to porro and then munoz in following gw for lacroix but not sure if im totally ready to turn my back on DC points just yet.

    torn on bruno vs palmer for captain. see if bruno looks on it midweek

  14. Shardlow
    • 8 Years
    1 hour, 59 mins ago

    Was discussing out of position FPL players with pals earlier. Do you remember Lord Lundstram?

    1. fantasyfog
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 56 mins ago

      Oh yes fond memories

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 55 mins ago

      his 21 pointer will go down in the annals of fpl history 🙂

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 hour, 41 mins ago

        21, ok, thx.

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 hour, 54 mins ago

      21 or 24 pts bench jam for me 🙂

    4. Zalk
      • 15 Years
      1 hour, 54 mins ago

      That's like last year...do you remember Michu and Bale?

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 9 Years
        1 hour, 8 mins ago

        Do you remember Berbatov 5G haul in DGW?

        1. Jack Burton
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          48 mins ago

          I remember Sanchez I TC him think I had like 80 points in a DGW

          1. How did you get 80 from a TC?

    5. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 49 mins ago

      He was literally the perfect player. Unreal gift from the fpl gods

  15. waltzingmatildas
    • 15 Years
    1 hour, 57 mins ago

    What do you reckon to
    Gabriel, Sangare to Cala, Rogers?
    Might also need to do Rodon to Hall (-4)

  16. Kodap
    • 9 Years
    1 hour, 56 mins ago

    How’s the WC looking? Pretty set on this..

    Raya
    Gvardiol - Calafiori - Hall
    Gakpo - Rogers - Palmer - Odegaard - Barnes
    Haaland - Pedro

    Verbruggen - Barry - Thomas - Egan

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      1 hour, 47 mins ago

      I'd downgrade Raya to 4.5 and upgrade Thomas/Egan

    2. fantasyfog
      • 11 Years
      56 mins ago

      Could do very well

  17. davewg59
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 hour, 51 mins ago

    Next 2 gw’s is Gakpo preferable to Szob?

    1. Warby84
      • 11 Years
      1 hour, 4 mins ago

      Barcola for me, great differential

      1. FPL_trail_runner
        • 6 Years
        1 hour, 2 mins ago

        Dont think he starts yet.

        Realistically why would Iraola drop Gakpo yet?

        1. Warby84
          • 11 Years
          1 hour, 1 min ago

          Gakpo from the right

          1. FPL_trail_runner
            • 6 Years
            57 mins ago

            Dont see it yet.

            Gakpo created both goals from the left this week. Barcola comes on again around 60-65min for Isak and Gakpo goes up front. Munoz starts right side as Frimpong is now a sub and they need width there.

            1. Warby84
              • 11 Years
              52 mins ago

              Gakpo started vs Forest on the Right, Muñoz from the left.. Magbe check back.. Barcola will not be benched..

              1. FPL_trail_runner
                • 6 Years
                39 mins ago

                Yes i saw that, but it was Frimpong starting rb, not they have a cb playing rb.

                Barcola will 100% be the starter, i just dont see it this week yet.

            2. Warby84
              • 11 Years
              49 mins ago

              That’s because he started on the left but is being adapted to play right and across the front line to bring Barcola in.. Barcola can play both but prefers left sided..

  18. Obtuseer
    1 hour, 48 mins ago

    First time FPLer here. Am very confused right now, but wanted to make a decision before the price changes today. 1 FT and 0 ITB
    Current team is:
    Raya (Dubravka)
    van Hecke Calafiori N. Williams Shaw (Diop)
    Fernandes Szoboszlai Cherki (Ndiaye Slater)
    Haaland Pedro DCL

    Was considering WC this week but might be worth saving it. Drafted this, but am open to most options:
    Raya (Dubravka)
    Gvardiol Calafiori N. Williams Konsa (Egan)
    Fernandes Gakpo Rogers (Yalcouye Slater)
    Haaland Pedro Wissa

    Would love any advice, thanks!

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      1 hour, 6 mins ago

      B cos its got gvardiol

  19. Moon Dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    1 hour, 44 mins ago

    Eliott Anderson dropping to 6.3m tonight.

    Interesting option. Not sure how I feel about him.

    1. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 hour, 8 mins ago

      Elliot*

      I'm always doing that.

  20. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    1 hour, 42 mins ago

    Verbruggen Kinsky
    Califiori De Cuyper van Ewijk Davis Hume
    Bruno F E La Fee Tzolis Szoboszlai Slater
    J Pedro Haaland Isak

    I am thinking of bringing in Palmer and Hall for Bruno F and Hume on my 2 free transfers?

    Is that good?

  21. Ibralicious
    • 12 Years
    1 hour, 42 mins ago

    Haven't used a chip yet so far. Continue chip-less, or is it time?

    Kinsky
    Calafiori — Muharemović — Konsa
    Bruno — Mbeumo — Cherki — Szoboszlai
    Haaland — João Pedro — DCL

    Dubravka — Shaw — Slater — Thomas

    (0.0 ITB - 1FT)

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      1 hour, 4 mins ago

      good side,roll

      1. Ibralicious
        • 12 Years
        1 hour, 3 mins ago

        Cheers, was thinking of ditching Shaw for Egan but I guess rolling is wiser

  22. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 9 Years
    1 hour, 40 mins ago

    Which 4.5 mid? For bench

    A) Slater
    B) Yalcouye
    C) Other

  23. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    1 hour, 39 mins ago

    Big captaincy call: Haaland (away MU) or Isak (home FUL)?

    1. FPL Sanky
      • 2 Years
      1 hour, 25 mins ago

      Haaland loves playing against MUN...no brainer imo

      1. #1 Arne Engels Fan
        • 2 Years
        1 hour, 18 mins ago

        Blanked in 2/3 trips to Old Trafford

        1. Salarrivederci
          • 10 Years
          1 hour, 11 mins ago

          3/4 if you go back to january 2023

  24. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    1 hour, 39 mins ago

    Was there any update on the fitness of Mosquera?

  25. FPL Sanky
    • 2 Years
    1 hour, 38 mins ago

    Did Mbeumo to Foden this week. Mbeumo hauled
    Now doing Foden to Rogers for next week. Foden haul incoming?

    1. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      44 mins ago

      He is playing United so probably

      1. x.jim.x
        • 11 Years
        24 mins ago

        One goal ever at Old Trafford and won’t even be starting

  26. Drizzle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    1 hour, 38 mins ago

    For the next 2:

    A) Rogers & Bruno
    B) Palmer & Mbeumo

  27. leo_messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    1 hour, 37 mins ago

    Hi All,

    Verbruggen
    Calafiori - Gvardiol - De Cuyper*
    Saka - MGW - Szoboszlai - Cherki*
    Haaland - Joao Pedro - Wissa

    Sub : Dubravka - Dedic - Slater - Egan

    I have 2FT next week and 2 options to consider :

    A) De Cuyper and Cherki -> Konsa and Palmer
    B) MGW and Cherki -> Rogers and Palmer

    Thank you

    1. #1 Arne Engels Fan
      • 2 Years
      1 hour, 34 mins ago

      The mind boggles as to why you'd be selling MGW and Cherki

      1. Brosstan
        • 12 Years
        1 hour, 32 mins ago

        Cherki minutes and rotation risk.. Simply a bad pick long term.

        1. #1 Arne Engels Fan
          • 2 Years
          1 hour, 28 mins ago

          Minutes, yes. Rotation, no.

    2. Dosh
      • 12 Years
      1 hour, 27 mins ago

      Is this a GW3 wildcard team?

  28. WVA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 hour, 33 mins ago

    Any changes needed?

    Kinsky
    Calafiori Gvardiol Konsa
    Bruno Rogers Szoboszlai Tzolis
    Haaland Pedro DCL
    Dubravka Davis Slater Hume

    1. Salarrivederci
      • 10 Years
      1 hour, 13 mins ago

      Looks good 🙂

  29. Brosstan
    • 12 Years
    1 hour, 31 mins ago

    The point of this game is to increase your rank, right? Im into top 4m now, onwards and upwards!

  30. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    1 hour, 31 mins ago

    Lammens,Fernandes and Mbeumo owner.That Everton goal was harsh.

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 12 Years
      1 hour, 14 mins ago

      Same ...

      1. Old Wulfrunian
        • 9 Years
        1 hour, 11 mins ago

        My plan was to keep Mbeumo in WC but honestly enough is enough with this team.

    2. #1 Arne Engels Fan
      • 2 Years
      1 hour, 11 mins ago

      Not really. Multiple cases of KDH fluffing his lines on the edge of the box. Barry free header from a few yards out.

      United sat back and were too passive. Got what they deserved