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Firmino falls foul of rotation as Salah and Mané start for Liverpool

Rotation inspired by the Champions League has finally arrived in the Premier League as Liverpool host Newcastle this afternoon.

Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) has fallen foul of it at Anfield, dropping to the bench with Divock Origi (£5.4m) leading the Reds’ line. Perhaps that is no surprise as the Brazilian was in action for his country in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Ahead of a packed fixture list with seven games in 21 days, Jurgen Klopp has also opted to give Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.3m) his first league start of 2019/20 at the expense of captain Jordan Henderson (£5.5m).

Liverpool’s defensive quartet remains unchanged in the form of Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.1m), Virgil Van Dijk (£6.5m), Joel Matip (£5.5m) and Andy Robertson (£6.9m) with Adrian (£4.6m) continuing to marshall the backline in the absence of Alisson (£5.8m). 

Klopp’s decision to rest both Henderson and Firmino is telling of the packed fixture list that sits on the horizon, yet this may also point to a propensity for rotation within Liverpool’s squad over the winter months, but for now the highly owned attacking assets of Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Saido Mane (£11.5m) retain their starting berths. 

Steve Bruce has opted to make just one change to the Newcastle side who drew with Watford last time out, with Jonjo Shelvey (£5.0m) earning a start in place of Sean Longstaff (£5.0m). 

The attacking option in the form of Shelvey as opposed to the more defensively-orientated Longstaff could be telling of Bruce’s plans to play swift, counter-attacking football against the Reds, but the likes of Fabien Schar (£5.0m), Jamal Lascelles (£4.5m) Paul Dummett (£4.5m) and Emil Krafth (£4.5m) will have to be on top of their game at Anfield to take anything from the side who currently sit 1st in the Premier League going into Gameweek 5. 

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Adrian; Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Matip, Robertson; Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Oxlade-Chamberlain; Mane, Salah, Origi.

Newcastle XI (5-3-2): Dubravka, Schar, Lascelles, Dummett, Krafth, Hayden, Shelvey, Willems, Atsu, Joelinton, Almiron.

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  1. Gizzachance
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    so robbo and mane outperforming my two of trent and salah so far !

    1. Royal5
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Well spotted.

      1. Gizzachance
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        no probs, cheers

    2. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      See also Atsu, Willems.

      1. Gizzachance
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        yeah, them to

  2. Royal5
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Oxlade should be playing in the Championship

    1. Random Name
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Try Frisbee. Football's not for you

      1. Royal5
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        What channel?

        1. Random Name
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          dunno i watch football

    2. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Well spotted.

  3. HurriKane
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else have a feeling Salah will hand over a pen to Mane to complete his hattrick and makeup for last gws selfishness?

    1. Rainer
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      He’ll be told to.

      1. HurriKane
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Im afraid this could be the case as a salah owner

    2. Royal5
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yep =(

    3. Dakers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      That would be awful haha

    4. In and Out
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not at 2-1

    5. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah and he'll miss it.

    6. Majestic Chanka
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      More likely Salah takes it and misses

    7. BERGKOP
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No

  4. Saka White Rice
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Surely Aubameyang will be better value the next 5 plus game weeks than Salah. hes 1.5 cheaper and has better fixtures. Is he also on pens?

    1. Dakers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yes he is also on pens.

      I'm wary to drop Salah though. Did it after a few blanks last year and then he went on that run of jammy pens / good goals, and double figures for like 6/7 weeks in a row or something

      1. AVFCChris1984
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah I did the exact same thing, blanked for about 5 game weeks, I took him out and he then scored a hattrick and over 70 points in the following 6 games

    2. Majestic Chanka
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      He’s also a Striker so less points for goals though.

    3. BERGKOP
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Surely

  5. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    With one clean sheet in their first five games and facing Chelsea, Leicester, United and Spurs in their next five, would it be unreasonable to go without any Liverpool defenders?

    A move like VVD > Otamendi would seem likely to provide extra points and and extra money.

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No

    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No

    3. WVA
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I still think a pool defender at 6.5-7m will outscore most other players at that price point

      1. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Over the season, sure. We don't buy players for the season though, we buy players for blocks of fixtures. Over those five fixtures specifically I'm not sure.

        1. WVA
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Agree but even over those five can't see anyone better, there attacking threat is insane

          1. sully29
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Robertson and TAA maybe. If you own VVD though?

          2. JustPark
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Yes but you could have Aguero/Auba for Haller or Son/Pepe/Erik for Trossard for example.

    4. Spab
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Anything other than triple Liverpool defence is madness

    5. Dakers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      They kept a CS against at least Chelsea last yr

    6. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I have no Pool defenders. Got Adrian as insurance

    7. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Thinking about that move myself. Just not sure what I'd do with the extra money.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        😀

      2. BERGKOP
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Transfer back to VVD the following game week.

    8. HurriKane
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Spurs united and chelsea are not tough fixture for liverpool

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Tough in terms of trying not to concede.

      2. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        They are a tougher block of fixtures defensively than the five in which they've kept one clean sheet though.

    9. BERGKOP
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No

  6. Tsparkes10
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Chamberlain is honestly point blocking Trent. Piss off

    1. Random Name
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      sheffield blocking teams that actually should be in the prem

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        😉 lolol

  7. Ian Davis
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Best 4.5-4.8 defender to bring in?

    Already have Lundstram, Pope/Ryan (só don’t want Bur/Bri defender).

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Burnley

      1. Ian Davis
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Already got Pope, not sure Burnley are good enough to double up on.

  8. diesel001
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    TAA shot on target, but saved.

  9. Rainer
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Trent very unlucky

  10. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Trent shot in target. Close!

  11. FPL Forward Thinker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone heard if there is any truth in Mason Greenwood starting today rumour? It’s the talk in last couple of pubs I’ve been at before match. Could be interesting in 15mins.

  12. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Mane to get subbed off.
    Liverpool to then get peno.
    Milner to take, having come on for Mane.

    1. Random Name
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      and i wouldn't care in the slightest because i'm enjoying 30 points

    2. BobbyV
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Newcastle still in this. No way Mane getting subbed off.

  13. jason_ni
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Ahhh TAA so close

  14. Dakers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Lundstram goal today would be madness.

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      It's going to happen. And Cs

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        No bias 😀

      2. Dakers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Believe!

    2. HurriKane
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      He would probably never score again

      1. HurriKane
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe could get couple of sssists

    3. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Hatrick.. cs.. 2 assist..

    4. WVA
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Happened last time I benched him
      Benched again for TAA VVD Digne Ota

  15. Differential C (Mark)
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Fingers crossed on Greenwood starting.

  16. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    If you don't have anything enlightening, entertaining or intelligent to say, please stfu. 😉

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Shots fired

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I will not be silenced! 😛

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        😆 Confession extracted!!! 😉

      2. Boxwoods
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        😆

    3. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      *Logs off*

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Not you, you fool!!! 😆 😆 😆

    4. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Are you trying to silence me for all eternity Doos?

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Harsh. Unfair. Nominative determinism is dead. 😉

    5. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      *no more posts on FFS ever again*

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yes, well ... 😆

    6. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      That rules me out then!

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Not necessarily ... 😉 😀

    7. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      +42

    8. Random Name
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      O0ooooh you think you're a big boy with that number 9 next to your name

      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I think he will find I run these streets. Who's your daddy?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          There's always one. 😉

    9. HurriKane
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Well said. Doosra not messing around

    10. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      quick way to empty this site:)

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Indeed!!! 😆 😆 😆

    11. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Err...

      *grabs a megaphone*

      NO!

    12. Dakers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Nicely done, Noble Grape x

    13. BoomXhakaLaca1
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Captain sterling or Salah? 😉

  17. Dakers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Hopes for 3pm KOs today?

    Would like a Chelsea win courtesy of Mount, Burnley win from Barnes and a CS, maybe a CS for Sheffield too.

    1. FPL Forward Thinker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      20 Points for Mason Mount and Harry Kane

      1. Dakers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        so 20 for Mount and a no show for Kane?

        1. FPL Forward Thinker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          No 20 points each

    2. Tsparkes10
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Sheff U win 🙂 that's all

    3. Sharkytect
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Spurs to win AND play well. Going to the new stadium for the first time

  18. JustPark
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    At least(for me) one thing for sure, jumping off Pool double defence soon!
    VVD to Ota for next gw. Keeping TAA.

    1. sambyy
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Exactly same plan for me

  19. VAR United
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Calling it now... Liverpool to win a pen and Salah hands the ball to Mane to complete his hatty. Hugs all around.

  20. Rainer
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Trents stats getting another buff.

  21. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Can't believe TAA hasn't had an assist or goals this match. So many quality deliveries, and been in the box a few times.

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Cause I just brought him in 😉

    2. Random Name
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Can't believe you haven't changed your grav to pulisic

  22. FPL Forward Thinker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    I think I’ve worked out why Salah doesn’t pass much.
    He’s not a very good passer of the football. ⚽️

  23. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Robertson back to his marauding best

    1. HurriKane
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      And i got in TAA this week. 🙁

      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        He's great too

    2. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Except finishing apparently. Actually. That's just normal scoring for robbo

  24. Respect My Authoritah
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Wow so close Robbo

  25. HurriKane
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Robbo nearly

  26. Rainer
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    😮

  27. Twisted Saltergater
    • 15 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Firmino is just so damn good

    1. BERGKOP
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Unbelievable player.

    2. Firminooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Thank you.

  28. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    So close Robbo!

  29. Rolls-Royce
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    How did Robertsen didn't score there!

  30. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    VVD to Robertson SO close