The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

City’s Bosnian striker makes the most of his cameo role by netting City’s winner against a plucky Palace, while Hull’s midfield quarterback hits double figures on a day that saw Fantasy managers plunged into panic by the absence of captaincy candidate, Wayne Rooney.

The Game Changer

Man City’s team sheet was the focus of our morning anxiety and, while Rooney’s omission eventually overshadowed Manuel Pellegrini’s reshuffles, the City lineup was to prove pivotal in our Saturday scoring. With the likes of Yaya Toure and Alvaro Negredo absent, it was left to Edin Dzeko to make the difference as a brave Palace rearguard was eventually breached by the Bosnian’s decisive strike.

Subject of our “Differentials” article and my own pre-amble this morning, Dzeko’s intervention will have provided rewards for a minority of Fantasy managers who took a risk on the City striker.

As my own ramblings mentioned, Dzeko looks to be a one-week proposition – unlikely to feature in Wednesday’s starting lineup, he was a trade who had to produce today to justify the gamble. With maximum Fantasy Premier League (FPL) bonus likely to follow, a nine point return, potentially doubled with the captaincy, looks a notable contribution in a Gameweek which seems destined for modest returns.

Sadly for Dzeko and his owners, his winner, however precious, is unlikely to strengthen his case for consistent starts in Pellegrini’s plans. He’s likely be shown a quick exit and thanked for his efforts on a day which saw the big names blank.

The Underused

Heralded as a superb summer signing, Tom Huddlestone has been integral to Hull City’s impressive start to their Premier League campaign. Stationed in a deep-lying midfield role, turning defence into attack with sublime simplicity, the £5 million signing from Spurs seemed unlikely to tempt Fantasy interest. Today’s impressive 14-point haul may well change that – albeit briefly.

Huddlestone’s superb dead-ball delivery has been a feature of the Tigers’ season but, today, his two assists were accompanied by a first goal of the campaign in a 6-0 drubbing of René Meulensteen’s Fulham.

That was his first Premier League goal since 2011 – underlining the fact that Huddlestone’s appeal perhaps remains limited. At just 4.8 in the FPL, however, the playmaker is an assured starter who will likely contribute further assists.

Surely a contender for Hull’s player of the year, Huddlestone is exactly the kind of midfielder that Fantasy games and their scoring systems should be trying to reach. Huddlestone may claim maximum FPL bonus points from today’s convincing win but that will be only the second time he’s been recognised by the BPS. Arguably, as one of the season’s top performers so far, we should have had reason to take notice way before today’s haul. Huddlestone is one of several midfielders “underused” and undervalued in Fantasy terms.

The Selection Poser

Rooney’s absence from the United team sheet with further groin gripes was undoubtedly the biggest blow on a day which saw rotation bite. United stuttered without his influence but David Moyes and United have already confirmed that he is likely to make his return against Spurs on Wednesday. With FPL vice captains kicking in, the onus will now be back on Luis Suarez to produce at Chelsea – the impact of Rooney’s injury could well be minor, then.

Even so, with Yaya Toure omitted by Pellegrini, we saw two key figures in the established “template” go AWOL, just a few days after Aaron Ramsey’s injury. Such setbacks could yet cause a shake-up in the rankings and mini-leagues, although few Fantasy managers seem likely to have benefited significantly from today’s events.

Tomorrow’s encounter at the Bridge will be more important that ever. Should Suarez blank again and Theo Walcott, backed by some with armband, produce at Newcastle, we may yet see Gameweek 19 have a significant impact.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Syd.
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    17 Pre bonus

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    1. Syd.
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      Plus a possible 5 bonus would give me 22 from 4

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      1. alsybach
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        You talking to yourself again!??

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        1. Syd.
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          It's the only way you get a decent conversation around here

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          1. Strificus
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            You might as well just go off on your own and let us enjoy our wretched fonversations to ourselves. :/

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  2. MJ6987
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    Has anyone actually seen this rumoured Chester assist? I haven't but I have emailed FPL to ask them to review it just in case.

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    1. MJ6987
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      I need the points!

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    2. Bad Pen
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      Not seen, would be lovely though.

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    3. Gargamel
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      I've seen it and it's not even remotely close, unfortunately

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      1. MJ6987
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        Ah right, cheers. What actually happened then?

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        1. Gargamel
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          Don't know how people came up with it at all

          He's nowhere near

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    4. Mr. Bean
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      this week could use an "assist gate"

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        Clear assist. Lukaku way 😛

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    5. Mílanista
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      The only person going on about it was El Berb and he probably hasn't seen it.

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    6. Podge
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      It was just a Wum 🙂

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  3. NissA
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    Roll on Sunday's games, can't wait to get on the double digits.

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  4. Syd.
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    Score predictions for tomorrow

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    1. Breadbin
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      Lots of points for me and those who have identical players.

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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      Kevin mirallas hattrick hopefully.

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      1. Breadbin
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        But I don't own him. So no.

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      2. GREENDREAMS11
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        I hope so but if he doesn't play I'll have Chester coming in for him, 😉

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  5. @FPLMason
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    Evans and Chester! Thank you! The only lads that got me pts this week!

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    1. Declan-
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      I have them both. 15 points well received

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      1. @FPLMason
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        Hehe! Thanks Declan! You'll have the braggin rights tomorrow after Wally C takes place 😉

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        1. Declan-
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          That'd be nice after the last 2 months of crap. Who did you captain?

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  6. hi contrast
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    Best midfielder 5.1 and below? Need someone nailed.

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    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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      Sterling or bannan... Or maybe ireland. Huddlestone possibly.

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    2. BantamPhil
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      I'd say Mutch but his fixtures aren't great

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    3. Hot Sauce
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      Im thinking the same!

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  7. Mr. Bean
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    anyone looking to use their January WC as late as possible to take advantage of new transfers? seems everyone is extremely eager to hit the trigger on the WC

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    1. Bad Pen
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      I shall be leaving it as late as I can, yes.

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    2. MCH
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      Leaving it as late as possible the more information you have the better the decisions you can make.

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  8. Breadbin
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    What a great day for FPL. Any good rage quits to catch up on?

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      couch potato was considering putting his head in the oven.

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      1. Breadbin
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        Oh. I was hoping for lame posters rage quits. I like him.

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        1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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          do you prefer roast potatoes to couch potatoes though?

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          1. Breadbin
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            As you ask, both!

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  9. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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    Happy with my dzeko (c) punt. I actually think he's great value at 6.7, given that he will shirley see minutes pretty much every week... Until aguero comes back. With silva suspended he may start v swansea too - one less attacking body to compete with 😉

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    1. Shifty
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      was just wondering this. Will Silva being out really give him an extra game? Would save the FT in that case.

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  10. BantamPhil
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    McGregor to Mannone for free (will wait till the weekend is over obviously)

    Yay or nay?

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  11. BantamPhil
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    Wonder how many numpties will shift out Yaya this week?

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    1. Syd.
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      None

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    2. MCH
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      Loads no doubt much like the thousands who sold Rooney as soon as Savage tweeted this morning!

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  12. alsybach
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    Other than fiso what is the other site that predicts price changes please!?!?

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    1. Bad Pen
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      totalfpl

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    2. Syd.
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      Total FPL

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    3. alsybach
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      Thanks boys

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    4. MCH
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      Didn't think people still used Fiso!

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  13. Breadbin
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    It's quiet here. I guess the usual crowd that boast don't come on when they do terribly 🙂

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    1. It’s A Joke
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      I'm quite glad of today's events. I captained Dzeko.

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    2. Breadbin
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      P.S. 60 from 5, any good? (not really).

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    3. Mílanista
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      6 from 4, any good?

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      1. Podge
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        Better than 6 from 5 🙂

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        1. Art Vandelay
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          better than 6 (14-8) from 6. 😆

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          1. MCH
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            Better than 6 from 7.

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      2. Breadbin
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        Chin up.

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  14. Bridge
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    Hello chaps, I'm after some random betting advice...I stuck £12.50 on Villa/Cardiff draws, and Man City, Leicester and Spurs wins. If Leicester (home to Bolton, 8/11) and Spurs (home to Stoke, 8/15) win, i'll get £379 returns.

    I'm keen on hedging my bets, and I'm also going to the Spurs-Stoke game. What would you do?

    A) Nothing, hope for the two bankers to win
    B) Lump seperate bits on both Leicester and Stoke
    C) Wait until half-time Leicester (15:45) and, if they are winning, lump, say, £79 on Stoke win or draw (returns of £200).
    D) Something else...

    Cheers! 😀

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    1. Bridge
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      Whoops, B) should read "Lump seperate bets on both Bolton and Stoke"

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    2. Whistle
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      maybe a lay bet on spurs and leicester to win - something like £50 on each to cover you? if your wanting to hedge that is.

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      1. Bridge
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        Thanks. What about draws though? Or should I go double chance (win + draw) - 8/5 for Stoke, but not so good for Bolton...

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    3. Whistle
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      also.. never bet on the late game.. madness to spread accumulators over two days in my opinion. you'll be spending the money in your head already

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      1. Bridge
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        I wouldn't normally do this, but Paddypower do a money-back-special on 5+ accumulators. There weren't 5 games today I would bet on.

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    4. Robe Wan
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      A

      Who dares wins mate

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      1. Bridge
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        Thanks. Would certainly get the old adrenaline going in the Spurs game...although i'm in the away end...urgh

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    5. Lloyd Xmas
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      B) £20 on both aways and draws should cover it.

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      1. Bridge
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        Thanks. Do you mean 4 seperate bets or double chance win&draw?

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  15. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
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    Could have had 13 from 2 but Blunderland rained on my parade.

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  16. It’s A Joke
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    I'm thinking of doubling up on Liverpool and Arsenal next. Now, it's obvious that Suarez and Walcott should clearly be in there, and they are. But who else? Think Sterling and Ozil, but old Ozil may get a rest.

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  17. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    Sir Alex Ferguson steps in advising Solskjaer to reject cardiff job

    Solskjaer is understood to have rejected them on the advice of his old Manchester United mentor, Sir Alex Ferguson, and the Cardiff chairman, Mehmet Dalman, who has been charged with finding Malky Mackay's successor, could have done with a win to help him sell the job to alternative candidates.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/28/cardiff-sunderland-premier-league-match-report

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      he will be united manager in a few years

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      1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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        forgot to put hopefully

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    2. MCH
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      Can't imagine anyone suggesting someone to take that job!

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  18. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
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    F U Cardiff.

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    1. Breadbin
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      Haha, not with you.

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  19. thunder_mike
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    13 pts + baps - 4 with Coleman, Hazard, Eriksen and Suarez to play!

    Could do with Suarez to have a quiet one as a few people have Captained him in my ML.

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  20. Art Vandelay
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    As part of my therapy I need to repost this, which fell into the last post.

    Can I borrow someone's time machine please?

    In deciding how to bring Rooney in I had two options.

    4 pointer - Lukaku to Rooney and Ramsey to 4.5MF

    8 ponter - Lukaku, Ramsey and Evra to Rooney, Sterling and 5.9 Defender

    I was against the 4 pointer because there was only really one option for the midfielder, so I went for the 8 pointer. By the way the defender was Kolarov and the midfielder was... Much.

    FML. 😆

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    1. Spiritof76
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      I feel ya. Went Welbeck/Ramsey/De Gea -> Rooney/Januzaj/Mannone in a losing -8 gambit myself

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      1. Art Vandelay
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        I am sure I did a similar think last season when there was a rotationfest.

        Still. A couple of goals from Wally and I could still get an average score.

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        1. Spiritof76
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          Same. And a red card for Cabaye on account of too many own goals would help...

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    2. Podge
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      I took a hit to sell Evra to fund Silva 🙁 13 point swing 🙁

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      1. Art Vandelay
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        Evra to Kolarov cost me 12 on its own. That is before Lukaku has even walked on the pitch.

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  21. Crouch Potato!
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    The relagation odds are very tight at the minute, http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

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  22. Thomass
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    What should I do?

    Howard
    Terry, Evans Coleman
    Walcott, Silva, Hazard Cabaye
    Suarez(C), Lukaka, Negredo
    Subs: Davis, Chico, JWP and Faye

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    1. Scottys Army
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      Wait till tomorrows games are over thomass.

      Just in case you get some injuries.

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      1. Thomass
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        Yeah I will and I have 2FTs

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    2. Mílanista
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      Learn some patience. Wait and see what happens tomorrow Mr T.

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      1. Thomass
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        I do have patients Milan 🙂

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        1. Mílanista
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          Demonstrate it then 😉

          24 hours without a RMT or asking about what transfers to do. Can you manage it?

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  23. Voodoo
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    Worth putting Cabaye in now (to avoid price rise)?

    Or wait til tomorrow to see if anyone gets injured.

    Already have Silva on my bench next game.

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    1. Barry Woj
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      As much as I like to chase rises, do it tomorrow. Not worth the risk given all the rotation and injuries we're seeing at the moment.

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    2. MCH
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      I don't think I would bother to bring him in not like he has any real decent fixture coming up.

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  24. Hot Sauce
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    Getting rid of Brady. Got 5.1 to spend to a mostly bench fodder. Should I spend it on Sterling, or get someone cheaper like 4.4 nailed on. He will need to play next week with Silva out.

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    1. champ20ns
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      Sterling, he will play next week

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    2. Hot Sauce
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      4.4 im looking at kasami. Has AVL home next week

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      1. dadoune30
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        Dempsey is eligible next match i think, so careful on Kasami 🙂

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  25. RoysCallerAnne
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    ooh, Vlaar could be back next game! will feel like a new signing for my team.

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
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      cliché

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    2. John Nerdelbaum
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      About time! I could do with him making an appearance. Squad is stretched to the limit

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  26. Well you know, Triffic
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    *Tumbleweed rolls past*

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    1. Podge
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      Ah why the sad face 🙁

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  27. BantamPhil
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    My cup opponent is having a stormer

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/3048647/event-history/19/

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    1. MCH
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      wow!

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  28. Schürrle Class
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    Anyone know when bonus is added to the players

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    1. MCH
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      soon enough

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  29. Barry Woj
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    Lol, the predicted average points in the top 10K is lower than overall today (6 compared to 8.5 from Smartypants' blog http://fpldiscovery.wordpress.com/2013/12/28/gw-19-intermediate-results-thursday/ )

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