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The Technical Area- Rooney Drops Deeper at Everton

The 6-1 home hammering at the hands of Man City has clearly had an effect. Humbled in front of their own fans, with Sir Alex Ferguson describing it as the “worst result in my history”, United’s line-up for last weekend’s trip to Goodison raised more than a few eyebrows.

The role assigned to Wayne Rooney will have many a Fantasy manager fretting. With Fergie seeking extra solidity, Rooney dropped into central midfield, allowing Javier Hernandez to lead the line as the lone frontman but, ahead of a favourable run of fixtures, it’s the last thing his Fantasy owners want to contemplate. Tonight’s Champions League line-up against Otelul Galati will only further deepen the concern, with Rooney once again selected in the United midfield, with Michael Owen and Dimitar Berbatov leading the line. We take a look at Rooney’s last two league games to see just how they differ:

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A look at Rooney’s average position in the City game (above) shows Rooney’s (10) tendency to drop deep, even when United play 4-4-2. With City so much in control, though, Danny Welbeck (19) was also deep- both Ashley Young (18) and Nani (17) stayed high and wide and with a far from compact shape, United were torn apart by their clinical opponents.

The Everton match (above) shows Rooney was, on average, in an almost identical position when in possession, despite his new midfield role. The main difference, though, is how this compares in relation to the team mates around him. There is no width, no players further forward- Hernandez (14) dropped deep when on the ball and is obscured by Rooney (10) here. United’s defence-minded outlook offered little ahead of Rooney for him to make any significant attacking contribution.

Passing

Against City, Rooney made a total of 57 passes. A look at the chalkboard again shows how he came deep to link with the midfield, with 47% of all passes coming in the middle of the central third of the pitch. Remarkably, this is almost identical to the Everton match; here, Rooney also makes 57 passes, with 49% coming in the same area.

It’s when you look at the other areas of the field that the difference is more substantial; against City, for example, 28% of Rooney’s passes were from positions on the flank. With Young and Nani providing plenty width, he had far less a tendency to move from the centre in comparison to his display at Goodison- 38% of his distribution came from the wings against David Moyes’ side as he sought space in order to make an impact.

The most significant area for Rooney, though, the centre of the final third, shows a definite decrease in attacking potential over the two games. Against City, 22% (13% + 4% + 5%) of Rooney’s passes came in this vital area as he prompted and probed, looking for openings- against Everton, Rooney’s impact in this crucial part of the field halved, down to 11% (7% +4%). With Fergie reining in his star forward’s attacking sensibilities, their potency clearly diminished.

A look at United’s preferred passing in each game is also instructive. Against City, Rooney received 15 passes from Welbeck- the most balls from any team mate- and played 6 passes to his fellow-forward- a total of 21 passes between the United frontmen.

In the Goodison game, though, it was a different matter; Rooney received more passes (7) from Jonny Evans than any other United player, with Phil Jones and Patrice Evra next best on 6; an indication of how deep he dropped to gain possession at times. Ahead of him, Rooney barely linked up with Hernandez at all; he played just 2 successful passes to the Mexican, receiving 3 in return. Compare that to the interplay with Welbeck against City, and there’s a definite drop in attacking intent.

Match Stats

Post-match, Fergie explained the thinking behind his decision to move Rooney back:

It’s about time we won 1-0. That was the aspect of the game that pleased me most, that and restricting Everton to very few chances. We had to do something about the fact that opponents have been getting too many opportunities to score against us in recent weeks. We knew we had to reduce that number if we are going to win the league, and reinforcing the midfield was one way of doing it. We brought Wayne back to increase our numbers in midfield.

Perhaps a look at the statistics will make the United boss think twice, though. In no way did his side restrict Everton’s chances: over the season so far, they have averaged 19 shots against per game- on Saturday, Everton fired in 19 goal attempts again. If anything, his tactics only had a detrimental effect on his own side’s endeavors going forward- United have averaged 16 shots per game so far this season, whereas at Goodison last weekend, they mustered 7 all game.

Indeed, David De Gea saved more shots (8) than United managed over the entire ninety minutes. From a central midfield position, Rooney had just 1 shot against his old club- not what you’d want from a 12.2 Fantasy prospect, particularly with the likes of Robin Van Persie tearing up the top-flight right now.

Clearly, Fergie holds no fears of utilising Rooney in a different role if he feels it’s beneficial to the team as a whole- a spell out wide a couple of seasons back proves testament to that. The uncertainty has clearly had an effect- so far, Rooney has been sold on by 72,000 Fantasy managers this week, despite a home clash with Sunderland up next. Tonight’s performance will give his 41% of Fantasy owners plenty to mull over- another game from deep without any attacking rewards could cause many to rethink over the forthcoming international break.

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  1. Waldaz
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    Any EL players? Have to sell Pieters who is injured, Bouma (6.7) or Marcelo (6.0)?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Marcelo, imo.

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      1. Waldaz
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        Actually may even get Insua at 5.7, hmm... cheers.

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        1. King Nil Miss ✩
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          Good shout although as fan I would say to be cautious because we´re already qualified wich means rotation threat and over confidence.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            Ta, K N M! 🙂

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          2. Waldaz
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            Oh, okay then, those two fixtures vs Vaslui and Zurich are tasty though!

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  2. Damo.
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    Manicni on Silva: “I don’t think it’s serious, Also we play in 60 hours against QPR. I think he can recover. It won’t be a problem.” Here's hoping

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
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      Cheers 🙂

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      But do you believe a word he says?

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      1. Damo.
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        Blind faith Doos. I hadn't realised Nasri played Wed/Sat/Thurs, may not play Saturday again so I reckon he'll get some game time (if fit). Having said that he's benched the two of em before. So just forget what I just typed 🙂

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          😆 Mantini is a bloody difficult little toerag ...

          *sigh*

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      2. Hay Number 2
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        Agreed!

        God at the begining of the week I thought I could get away with saving my transfer. At the moment I have several issues to contend with:

        1.Kompany-Suspended
        2.Shawcross-Injured
        3.Silva-Slight injury risk
        4.Rooney-Playing deep

        I am tempted to take my first 4 pointer and transfer the following:

        Rooney>>>>Hernandez
        Dyer>>>>Dretha

        Any ideas gents? My team is as follows:

        Given (Vorm)
        Shawcross Enrique Simpson (Kompany) (Brown)
        VDV Ramsey Silva Walters (Dyer)
        Rooney RVP Sturridge

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Shawcross to Wilkinson/Assou-Ekotto/Walker ... ?

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          1. Hay Number 2
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            Yeah I was thinking of either Walker/Wilkinson....Wilkinson to clear some funds!

            If you had Roonet would you get rid?

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  3. Scroobius Mac
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Just noticed I have enough cash to do Sturridge > Aguero.
    Aguero is 100% to start at the weekend I assume, does he then go on international duty or is it only Europe because of the play-offs? Following that City have NEW which is good but with Napoli 3 days later could he be rested again?
    The Manchester sides are a fantasy nightmare this season.

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    1. Poli_Talk
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      Mancini has a lot of faith in Aguero; So, I believe that he'll start against all the above.

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  4. anish10
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    nasri out a.johnson in for this gw?! also have gerrard injured 🙁

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    1. The Light Knight
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      get gerrard out first

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      1. Fratboy
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        +1

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    2. tosey
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      get lampard in

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      1. anish10
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        what you reckon to gerrard>lamp nasri>a.johnson a.hughes>p.jones for an 8 pointer

        gerrard and nasri obviously wont play and my defence is shit if i dont bring a decent defender in this week

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        1. tosey
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          just take a 4pt hit

          jones would have to keep a cleanie for you to break even on the extra 4pts

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          1. anish10
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            gerrard to lamps nd nasri to johnson then?

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    3. Poli_Talk
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      I'd go with Mata or Adam..
      They are showing consistency....

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  5. The Light Knight
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    Anyone else contemplating going for a mid range midfield?
    Given Ruddy
    Jenrique Bos Jones Wilko Simpson
    Fletcher Rambo Drenthe Ramires Gnegneri
    RVP Ade Kun

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    1. Ryan
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      Yes me difinately. Can't see this free scoring big name player streak lasting forever. I think the mid priced players such as Brunt, Sess, Larsson, Ramsey and Sinclair will start hitting their stride. Quite keen on a midfield of 2 big hitters, 2 mid priced and a cheapie being a good option, or even 3mids + 2 big hitters

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    2. Pat Mustard
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      Fletcher, Yaya play defensive midfield so are a waste

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    3. Poli_Talk
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      Fletcher a fantasy dump.
      Brunt , Etherington and Ramsey are good.. At least in my opinion..

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  6. Ryan
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    Lost on the last page

    Why is everyone so mad keen on Drenthe, have you seen how many starts he has had this year?
    A grand total of......1

    How can we be so sure he will start every game?

    Someone please enlighten me?

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    1. tosey
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      keep an eye on this, all the lineup predictiuons so far have drenthe in

      http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/39352-Newcastle-United-v-Everton.-Saturday-5th-November-12.45./page2

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      1. Fratboy
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        you're excellent for these links 🙂

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    2. Scroobius Mac
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      Getting up to fitness, got fitness, started, started the next game in the CC, got suspended. Fairly sure he'll start.

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    3. The Light Knight
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      i wouldn't have expected such negativity from a holy moses believer

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      1. Ryan
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        lol, I like Drenthe I suppose I just havn't seen evidence. Didn't know he was suspended, it was the United game that threw me off.

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        1. The Light Knight
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          isn't he suspended for 3 games

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          1. Ryan
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            haha don't start that on me. He is not flagged so doesn't seem to be. I will see how he goes this weekend and consider getting him in during the international break

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            No.

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  7. Fratboy
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    Hmmmm actually Doosra, Milner>Yaya would be quite a good transfer for me, starts every game or at least gets minutes and would give me City coverage....which I think would be silly to go without....

    Or is it just chasing points? I don't know 🙁

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    1. Bubbles
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      I think you're just going to keep wasting trasnfers on that one spot if you get Yaya in, as you won't want him long term (well, maybe you do, but I certainly wouldn't). I'd just get Drenthe/Brunt/Sess whoever you want for a good while.

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      1. Fratboy
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        glad I'm getting a lot of feedback on this, thanks man.

        I'm going with Ramsey this week I think, Drenthe away to Newcastle doesn't look good.

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    2. The Light Knight
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      chasing points is fine if you are picking a good player

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Well, my reasoning is as follows: Silva has had a cracking start, but that is now slowing, and I am pretty sure he is injured, perhaps badly. Last Season, Yaya was the other creative source, and our old friend De Jong is fit. Yaya fits perfectly with the new bonus system, and I believe there is a lot left to come. Finally, we have good evidence that he is in form! Oh, and Nasri has had three games on the trot, and is falling out of form ...

      PS 4 of Yaya's goals were away, last Season.

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      1. Rayne Wooney
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        Hey hey cmon now Silva aint slowing, he scored double figures last week and only has 2 scores less than 5, one of which was when he didnt start.

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  8. Pat Mustard
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    Sturridge to continue playing majority of games? Can do Ward –> Baines & Suarez –> Sturridge next week if keep transfers this week..

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    1. Poli_Talk
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      Baines needs to score and assist almost every match, to justify he's price tag.
      Go with Wilkinson...

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  9. pompeyfan
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    new post

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  10. anish10
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    gerrard > lamps ... nasri>a.johnson?? already have sturridge so dont want a chelsea overkill

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      Forget that...Gerrard>>>>VDV

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  11. Gunners2020
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    Hey guys..need help big time!

    1. Best two options out of Evans, Clichy or R Taylor?
    2. Best two options out of Ramsey, Drenthe, Sinclair, Larsson or Walters?
    3. Adebayor or Suarez?
    4. Any interest from Adam or Walcott?

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      1.Evans
      2.Ramsey
      3.Suarez
      4.Walcott

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    2. Poli_Talk
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      R Taylor -- Out.
      Drenthe -- Out.
      Suarez -- Out.
      Adam -- Out.

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  12. Gunners2020
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    So many choices..thoughts on what the best team I should go with below?

    Current Team

    Vorm (Kenny)
    Clichy Wilkinson R Taylor Enrique (Simpson)
    Nani VDV Silva (Dyer, Ferguson)
    Adebayor Suarez Rooney

    Option 1

    Vorm (Kenny)
    Evans Wilkinson R Taylor Enrique (Simpson)
    Ramsey VDV Silva (Drenthe, Ferguson)
    Adebayor/Suarez Rooney RVP

    Option 2

    Vorm (Kenny)
    Evans Wilkinson R Taylor Enrique (Simpson)
    Drenthe VDV Silva (Dyer, Ferguson)
    RVP Aguero Rooney

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    1. southernpacific
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      I like Option 2

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    2. notidaho
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      i got similar issue, I got Nani out for VDV. but thinking about going adebayor->hernandez as no ManU cover. You reckon Rooney only safe bet?
      Would get aguero if i could afford him tho especially as Silva limped off...
      Good call on Drenthe I'm gona asses him vs Newcastle.
      I'd probably say 2 with Suarez though his fixtures aren't great.

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  13. southernpacific
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    RMt please

    Vorm (Ruddy)
    Enrique Lescott Simpson (brown , Tierney)
    VDV Silva Cabaye Ramsey (Ferg)

    RVP Aguero Adebayor

    I shipped out Kompany for Lescott following his red card, but want to try and bring in Hernandez for next week ideally... ideas?

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    1. notidaho
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      im thinking about hernandez this week as also no manU cover, and with adebayor possibly price dropping he's the candidate. iv got mata/agbon though where you've got ramsey/aguero so you win...

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  14. KOKAK
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    All you guys, please continue to sell Rooney! 😀

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    1. notidaho
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      i love the 'shares' aspect of the game. in truth he's likely to score vs sunderland but everyones worried about the price drop.

      i duno whether to go
      adebayor->hernandez for a 4pt hit

      since iv got VDV and ade is dropping fast. not sure how the international break factors in to this...

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  15. Silenzi's Dream Team
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    any chance of a Suarez hatty this weekend?

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      yes

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  16. Baines on Toast...
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    Long term I still want Rooney but I'm convinced Wellbeck is going to do some damage to his old club, might have to take the plunge xD

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  17. Baines on Toast...
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    Think I'm gonna have to keep Rooney. Not backing him to score big this week but he'll be up front against soon and with a rest in the international break he'll come back strong. Only issue is with the break if he does fail against Sunderland his price could plummet and there's potential to try and be clever about it, but it could backfire.

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