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Casually Condemning Casuals

Being casual is causing consternation among veteran Fantasy Football managers. The standoff is between those that don’t like the term and those that roll it out at every opportunity.

For those unfamiliar with the term, it refers to those with a casual attitude to Fantasy football, who rarely look at fixtures and form and certainly never look at underlying statistics and emerging trends. They just shoot from the hip, spending mere seconds managing their team each week.

A key debate has emerged as to whether the term should be used so freely as a criticism. Casual Fantasy Football managers do exist. They always have. They are a certain percentage of the 3.5 million that play the Fantasy Premier League game. They happily go about their business, doing their thing and neither know nor care that this debate is ongoing.

But they are just one of many groups that make up the Fantasy Football family, a key point that is often overlooked.

For starters there are the ghosts, who are so casual that all they do is set up a team and leave it for the season. They affect ownership and Gameweek ranks just as much as those who play casually week to week. These are not casuals, they are ghosts who haunt the season.

Also the non-casuals are very diverse. They have their own sections. Dullards, Mavericks, Traditionalists, Knee-jerkers, Hit-takers, Non hit-takers, Streakers, Luckless, Statisticians, Gut-feelers, Sheep and so on. To say the Fantasy football community is made up of just casuals and non-casuals is far too simplistic.

Another problem with the term casual is that it is over used. What may appear casual to a hardened veteran of Fantasy Football may actually just be a gut-feeler, who acts on instinct.

Casuals have also become a convenient group to blame when dedicated Fantasy management plans go array. To dismiss those who captained Riyad Mahrez in Gameweek 1 as casual fails to understand the nuances of why people make decisions. While this may appear a carefree move, it may also be the move of a Fantasy manager who paid close attention to Leicester’s team sheets during friendlies and spotted him becoming more integral to their attack from the wing.

And what of a Fantasy manager who attempted to play his Wildcard but forgot to press the button after making 52 points’ worth of hits? Surely a casual? Actually no, this happened to 2013/14 Fantasy Premier League champion Tom Fenley, not someone that could be accused of being casual.

Hardcore players who study statistics, tables, pay membership, watch price rises, etc. may display casual traits without being casual. Some managers in the past have refused to ever pick Luis Suarez, simply because they didn’t like him. Given the former Liverpool man’s fine form while in the Premier League, this decision is arguably stupid, but certainly not casual. Avoiding him actually took far more careful thought and planning than simply drafting him in.

Are those who kept Theo Walcott despite rotation concerns casuals? My mini-league rival still owns him because he rates him as a player. He is also a seven-year veteran of Fantasy football and big fan of statistics, so another who could be unfairly given the casual tag.

Motivation in playing Fantasy football is also something to be taken into account before liberally using the word casual. For some, overall rank is meaningless and head-to-head competitions or specific mini-league victories rule supreme. This means that decisions may be based on countering a rival rather than what is logically the right move over time.

The introduction of chips this season in FPL has also added to the casual debate. Many managers have already used some of these. Are they casual for not saving them for a carefully planned double Gameweek and Wildcard strategy? Perhaps, but if their chips have already borne fruit, maybe they are the ones that will be proved right.

This is an unusual season. The Dullards, who fear risky decisions and stick to heavy hitters, are feeling it the most. Mavericks and Form pickers are being rewarded; some may be doing this by accident, but many will be seasoned managers who just play the game differently.

In short, the problem with the term casual is the casual use of it, especially by those who are currently struggling. Not everyone that is scoring more than you is a casual. Don’t assume someone is casual just because they are outside your perceived norm.

Woeisme Card carrying misanthropist. Believes people who post \"score check\" should all be made live together in Death Valley \\\\\\\'whats another year\\\\\\\' Follow them on Twitter

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  1. J0E
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    • 14 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    ..drops mic, leaves the stage without a second glance at the stunned audience.

    Great piece. Certainly looks like there may be a few less references to 'casuals' after this.

  2. andy85wsm
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    • 13 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Good piece 🙂

  3. Shifty
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    but...but...the casuals...

  4. Pochecinno
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Fantastic.

    I personally think the usage of the term on this site is rather elitist and snobbish

    1. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      This

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      I don't think so. Casuals are people that play the game casually. It's not an insult, it's a description.

      It's much easier to have a term to describe this group because they display different transfer and captaincy habits to our own.

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        The term as such isn't, I agree, but the usage of it on this site may well be.

        1. Woy of the Wovers
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 7 months ago

          Casual is invariably used in a negative sense. Player X scores so people buy him > Casuals. Or the frequent comment that casuals flood the boards on Friday evening to ask what transfer they should make.

          I'd be happy with the purer original meaning of a player who doesn't analyse data but makes transfers once just looking at the fixtures that week. We have better terms for other groups: knee-jerkers, sheep etc.

          The article itself highlights cases that clearly aren't casual - making transfers without pressing the WC is using a type of "cheat" which no casual would know about.

  5. J0E
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    • 14 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    I didn't even know Fantasy Football had streakers until I read this...I guess they run naked past a computer screen when the bonus points come in.

    1. Diva
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      😆

  6. The Real Big Vern
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    • 13 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    This is a "casuals" season so far. Those of us who are adamantly remaining with Aguero cap because we "know" he is going to "explode" soon are perhaps the ones acting like the idiots! Yes he will have an explosive gw hopefully soon, but that one week is only going to make up for the 4+ weeks where he has given us cap points of 2 or 4 and in the meantime, the casuals are racking up the cap points on Mahrez, Wilson, Ayew etc!

    1. Jonny Bananas
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      • 11 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      Aguero is due....

      1. Jax
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        an injury? yes.

        1. Jacques The Lad
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 7 months ago

          Well he's already got one doesn't he

  7. ItOnlyTook9Years
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Spoken like a true casual 😉

    1. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      Well someone had too....

      1. ItOnlyTook9Years
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        Apologies, was surprised it wasn't the first comment!
        Great article.

  8. Sconeaus - The Dude Abides
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Fantastic piece! Great read n very interesting, think we all know plenty of the different types of managers.

    The big hitters will rise soon (we hope - Sanchez against Chelsea defence, due a big gw, but too risky for captaincy? Punt on mahrez can he continue to maintain form and can Leicester? Wilson to Sunderland? Or stick with aguero - big decisions to be made if he's fit.

  9. A.T
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    🙂

  10. Jafalad
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    So explain to me what a streaker is please? 😕

    I have never used the term casual to catergorise a fellow player. It's not a derogatory term either but wearing my existentialist lens I don't like putting people in boxes and giving them labels.

    We are all players in the game and it matters not one jot to me how much time each player spends on the game.

    I have a hard time with those that stereotype.

    1. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      See above...its someone who runs past a computer screen naked when the bonus points come in.

      1. J0E
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        • 14 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        But in seriousness I think it refers to those who go for players on streaky runs - eg Rooney in seasons past.

      2. Jafalad
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        Are there people who actually do this? 😯

    2. WALOR
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      And what about those that stereotype those that stereotype?

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        Daguerreotypes.

      2. The Kolarov Mane ⚔
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        Is stereotyping using both hands simultaneously? I struggle with that...

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      Someone who gets their kit off for attention.

    4. FPLzebub
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      • 11 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      Typical non-labeller 🙄

  11. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    • 14 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    + 42.

  12. Mata-Is-The-Juan
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Looking forward to an article providing the full breakdown on the different non-casual groups 😉
    Had fun reading this. Solid effort.

    1. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      That's a great idea - would love to see that article too.

  13. The Kolarov Mane ⚔
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    It is simple really - casual is anyone without a member's icon 😛

  14. mr messi
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    The guy leading my mini league is definitely a casual - hasn't made any transfers all season, still has Bertrand and (c) Rooney every week. But he's leading. 🙁

    1. Donkey_Sanctuary
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      • 11 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      I think the correct terminology here is ghost. Not casual

  15. Kase II
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    • 11 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Being a non-casual and having a pretty good start to the season I have not been impressed with the communities apparent disdain of those doing well who are unilaterally termed 'casuals'. I planned my season to a lot of detail.

    Mahrez was projected as the top 5.5 midfielder for the first 13 weeks of the season.

    Wilson had easy fixtures and normally one promoted striker does well (e.g. Austin, Caroll).

    If anything casuals are more likely to pick 'heavy hitters' so I think the argument falls there. Several casuals I've spoken to this season didn't even know who Wilson and Mahrez were last season.

    I think everyone is just bitching because it's a slightly odd start to the season. There is still no reason for casuals to be outscoring non-casuals. Regression to the mean in 8 weeks.

  16. ron.44
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Great piece Woeisme.

    Puts into words what we all can't be bothered to reason out.

    You're right that "casual" has become an umbrella term for FPL players that we'd love to blame for what we perceive as faults/injustices with the game.

    I've always played as a hit-taking gut-feeler and don't feel that "casuals" ruin the game for me at all.

  17. The Machine
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Dont understand why the toys start coming out on here everry time someone uses thr word casual. Its not a degratory time, just the approproate word to describe anyone who doesnt spend much time deciding his or her moves

    The truth is , *most* of those doing well so far fall into that category

    1. Pochecinno
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      How do you 'most' of those doing well so far are casuals?

      Because they don't come on here?

      1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 7 months ago

        Yes - most on here have a template team based on general ideas and that template has struggled so far

        1. RedLightning
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          • 13 Years
          8 years, 7 months ago

          Sheep!

  18. Nasri Loves Kompany
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Never liked the term, reeks of arrogance and condescension. This is just a game, after all - if some people do it for a laugh or take it less than exceedingly seriously, who cares? Mind your own business!

    1. Nasri Loves Kompany
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      Also a strawman. Great article!

  19. Van Klinkert Delarosa
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Nice read. 🙂

  20. Boris Bodega
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    • 8 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    And here I was thinking it was people who like wearing jeans....

  21. Veraswami
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    I was looks at all those tags and thinking ... who am i ?

    1. RedLightning
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      • 13 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      I'm not quite sure where I fit in either. There are probably many more categories, some of which might overlap or fall in between others.

      Another way of dividing FPL players up might be by which site influences them most. We follow FFS, but others might take more notice of Transfer Hub, Fantasy Football Geek, Fantasy Football 247, Fantasy Football First, FISO or others.

      And another is by which club they support. Many of this season's most successful players appear to be Man City fans, but they aren't all casuals. Some might even be original thinkers - which probably comes under the Maverick label.

      There also appears to be a tendency on this site to over-rate certain clubs such as Arsenal, Man United and Chelsea and to under-rate others such as Leicester, Watford and Man City.

    2. RedLightning
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      • 13 Years
      8 years, 7 months ago

      On second thoughts, I suppose I must be a bit of a maverick, since most of the dullards and statisticians seem to be struggling rather more than myself.

  22. Costa in Wengerland
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Hahaha very nice article , i will not use the Casual term anymore 😉 , but there are so many casuals out there !

  23. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Bloody casuals. I hate them 😉

  24. Vardy Gras PBFC
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    A very enjoyable article.

    Nice to know I'm a ghost too.

  25. aquavit
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 7 months ago

    Much ado about nothing. Why should anybody care? The points are what count, however we manage to get them.