Scout Notes

Scout Notes – Gameweek 37 – Sunday

Sergio Aguero and Alexis Sanchez both find the net as City and Arsenal share the Etihad spoils. Steven Davis scores twice as Southampton see off Spurs, whilst Roberto Firmino emerges from the bench to score in Liverpool’s home win over Watford.

Aguero in the goals again

Manchester City’s top-four berth is under threat following a 2-2 home draw against Arsenal.

Sergio Aguero prolonged his scoring streak by netting (Fernandinho assist) for the sixth successive start. The Argentine marksman amassed eight goals during that time frame and next faces a Swansea City defence with just a single clean sheet in six. Given that the Liberty match is must-win for City in their attempt to clinch third, we can expect Manuel Pellegrini to field a full-strength side again.

By way of just his second goal in 10 league appearances, Kevin De Bruyne irked 78,000 Fantasy managers that shipped him across the previous two weeks. The 9%-owned Belgian – who charts joint-third among midfielders for shots on target (five) over his last four starts – represents an alluring differential for the final day of the season as City look to clinch an automatic Champions League berth.

Sanchez earns Gunners a point

Arsenal twice came from behind to secure a draw that keeps second place within their sights.

Prior to kick-off, Mesut Ozil’s no-show was the chief talking point from a Fantasy perspective. The former Real Madrid playmaker missed out with a minor hip complaint but is expected to be passed fit for Aston Villa’s visit next weekend.

Olivier Giroud notched a goal (Mohamed Elneny assist) and an assist, ending a 16-match barren streak. Danny Welbeck was withdrawn at the 24-minute mark because of a knee injury and looks almost certain to be sidelined for Arsenal’s favourable final match-up, so Giroud should enjoy investment from suitors looking to double up on the North Londoners’ offense.

Alexis Sanchez rebounded from two straight blanks with his 13th goal of the season. No midfielder has chalked up more goals (seven) than the Chilean since Gameweek 29, rendering him a prime captaincy candidate against a Villains rearguard that ranks top for goals conceded (72).

Davis at the double

Southampton extended their unbeaten streak to five matches with a 2-1 comeback win at White Hart Lane.

Steven Davis bagged both goals for the visitors, gracing the scoresheet for the first time since Gameweek 11. Although the Northern Ireland international has been far from prolific this term, it’s worth noting that he’s now profiting from a central role behind lone striker Shane Long.

Dusan Tadic turned provider for both of Davis’ strikes, meaning he’s produced two goals and six assists in four starts. Pitched at 6.6, the Serbian midfielder serves as a strong pick before a home clash against Crystal Palace, who are almost certain to make wholesale changes to their starting XI ahead of the FA Cup final.

Those considering Sadio Mane for Gameweek 38 will be monitoring the winger’s fitness after he was withdrawn due to illness midway through the second period. Jordy Clasie is also an early doubt after being forced off with a groin problem.

Spurs stumble again

Spurs’ mini slump continued as they failed to taste victory for the third consecutive fixture.

Heung-Min Son grabbed his second goal in as many starts. Despite the fact that the 7.5-priced South Korean suffers from his classification as a forward, he could still profit from a visit to Newcastle on Sunday – a fixture that could prove meaningless for the hosts should Sunderland beat Everton in midweek and relegate the Magpies.

Erik Lamela notched his fourth assist in five starts. In the absence of Dele Alli, the ex-Roma starlet presents the strongest case for investment among Tottenham’s mid-priced assets.

Harry Kane validated 120,000 sellers with his third blank in five outings. His remaining 43% ownership will mostly feel inclined to sit tight, given that the league’s top scorer tallied six goals in Tottenham’s previous four road ties and places top among all forwards for away goals (15).

Klopp rings the changes

A much-changed Liverpool outfit rounded off a sensational week with a 2-0 home win over Watford.

In the wake of the Reds’ Europa League exertions, Jurgen Klopp enacted heavy rotation, affording James Milner, Nathaniel Clyne and Dejan Lovren the afternoon off. Daniel Sturridge and Roberto Firmino were benched, allowing Christian Benteke to lead the line in front of Philippe Coutinho. Owing to Danny Ward’s season-ending knee injury, Simon Mignolet was an assured starter at Anfield.

Joe Allen opened the scoring (Benteke assist), before Firmino struck (Sheyi Ojo assist) 15 minutes into his second-half cameo. Although Liverpool will doubtless field their second team against West Bromwich Albion next Gameweek – given that the Europa League final takes place three days later – one would imagine that Klopp will name a strong XI for their home encounter against Chelsea on Wednesday, which bodes well for managers who’ve retained the likes of Sturridge, Coutinho and Firmino.

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  1. Irish Madridista ⭐
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Oh hi Mark.

  2. TheTinman
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    On the Chambers RB v CB position. I realised I made a mistake, he did come as a RB, but Wenger sees him as CB. http://dailycannon.com/2015/05/chambers-and-wenger-agree-on-best-position/

    1. zerinot
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      I'm faily sure i remember reading Chambers playing centrally earlier in his Southhampton youth career aswell, he do need to nail down a first team spot and specialize in 1 of the postions if he wants to improve from here in my opinion though.

  3. andy85wsm
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    • 13 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Andy bloomin' Carroll.

    Hope West Ham decide to roll over against us tomorrow too! 🙂

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      On a slightly more positive note.. Clare came from the lower division to win the League Final Replay this weekend by a last minute point from Tony Kelly 🙂

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Who's Clare and why is she playing against Tony Kelly?

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          She's the most beautiful rose in all the land.

          🙂

          Hon de Banner!

          1. Pulp Minion
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            The equalizing point was never a free though (should have been a free the other way!!)

        2. Danno - Emre Canada
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I'll guess hurling....

    2. Slartibartfast
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Yes please! Although a consolation Payet goal would be good.

    3. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Rather a carroll hattie than cl? 😮

  4. drughi
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Looks to be my worst season rank wise in the 7 seasons I played. Just need to get inside top 100k.

  5. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    2016/17 Season – Key Dates
    -----------------
    June 15 Premier League fixtures announced
    June 28/29 Champions League first qualifying round, first leg
    June 30 Europa League first qualifying round, first leg
    July [1-31] FPL opens
    August 8 Capital One Cup first round
    August 9 European Super Cup
    August 13 Premier League starts
    August 23/24 Champions League Play-off round, first leg
    August 25 Champions League Play-off round, first leg
    September 13/14 Champions League group stage, matchday one
    September 15 Europa League group stage, matchday one
    November 5 FA Cup first round

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      November 11th Scotland defeat England at Wembley causing England internationals FPL points to dry up

    2. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      no DGW in week 1 then

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        no

      2. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        we are saved from Klopp's rotation nightmare

  6. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    In GW28 I was ranked 1.2m Half way through GW37 and im ranked 200k with 11 players to go. With a huge thanks to the chips I may end up with a respectable OR come the end of the season.

    1. Jøssy ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Feels good doesn't it!? As far back as GW21 I was at 751k. A green almost every week since (other than the aberrations of GW33 and GW35) had seen me rise to 12k.

      I'm currently just inside 15k after a disappointing start to the DGW, but hopeful that will still pick up. I want top 10k!! 😐

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Brilliant ! If you remain hit free the top 10k should be within your sights

        1. Jøssy ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Thanks KOL!

          Something from Carroll (TC) or Lanzini would help!! Or maybe a Sturridge haul.

          Here's hoping...

      2. ChameLeon Best
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Interesting which weeks... Did you wildcard 33?

        1. Jøssy ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Yeah, I WC'd in GW33 and as I said my only two reds since then were:

          GW33: When Spurs SGWers destroyed us WCers
          GW35: When our Lpool plays "with no blank" let us down

          Obviously, I'm praying this week doesn't end up a red, which it is currently. come on (triple) Captain Andy!!

  7. Ten Season Wonder
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Best midfielder for £6.5m or less for final GW?

    1. drughi
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      arnautovic

  8. Team Zissou
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Which 3 to play this week?

    Smalling Bellerin Gabriel PVA

    1. drughi
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      first 3

    2. _Gunner
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      first 3

    3. Ten Season Wonder
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      first three

    4. Jøssy ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      1st three

    5. Team Zissou
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      First three! Thanks guys

  9. _Gunner
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Thoughts on Giroud as a punt for next week?

    1. Bunk Moreland
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Good option. Decent player with excellent service and he tends to do well against rubbish teams such as Villa. Could see him scoring a couple after finally notching the last time out.

    2. drughi
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      already have 3 arsenal otherwise he would be straight in

    3. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Good

    4. fusen
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      In the top 5 simply due to the opposition and the circumstances of Arsenal wanting to secure 2nd place. Definitely more punty than sensible though as he isn't in good form.

    5. Ten Season Wonder
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      If Welbeck is 100% out then this is probably the move I will make

    6. _Gunner
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Thanks all

      Seems like I'll be getting him if Welbeck is 100% out.

  10. pompeyfan
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Unbelievable scenes in the Eredivisie this weekend, I guess it's our fault for already planning the championship celebrations in advance 🙁

    1. Bunk Moreland
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      How is that Portsmouth's fault?

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        hosted Ajax to beach party on Friday night

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Unfortunate PF 😐

    3. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Must be gutting. Its good to see the league going to the final day though.

      1. pompeyfan
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        yeah, also because it was such a shock. This could be even more costly with 2 rounds of CL qualifying to navigate - or not navigate as in the case of this season.

  11. fusen
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    I'm looking for the best final gameweek punt and I can't help but think it is Tadic (or Mane).

    Seeing as Firmino is very unlikely to be played in the final game due to Europa league final, Firmino to Tadic(/mane) seems fairly sensible right?

    1. drughi
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      yep

    2. Cradders
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      I just thought about one of those 2, Davis doesn't play as far forward but got a few points this weekend

  12. trinzoo
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    The best 3 strikers for GW38 ?

    Have 2 FT and frontline of:
    Deeney / Defoe / Carroll 6.7 ITB

    Play:
    A) PvA
    B) Cresswell

    1. Slartibartfast
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Play B

      Boring, but probably Aguero and Kane, then Giroud.

      1. Slartibartfast
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Changed my mind actually - PvA probably a better shout.

    2. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Kun, Defoe and possibly Gru.

      Play PVA - WHM don't do cs.

    3. Ten Season Wonder
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Wait and see after this round of games have been complete.

      I would say Defoe but only If Sunderland still aren't safe by then.

      If they clinch safety against Everton, then he wouldn't be in there.

      Others; Gru, Kun, Long??

  13. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Why did I bench Sanchez over Townsend lol

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Fixtures innit. On paper it was the right move

    2. fusen
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Townsend had both form and fixture, Sanchez had neither

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Sanchez is one of the most in form players in the game

        1. Ten Season Wonder
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          this ^

      2. Cradders
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Sanchez has scored 6 in 8, I wouldn't have said that's out of form. Can't expect him to score every game, blanking twice isn't out of form IMO maybe 3 games in a row.

        1. fusen
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I was obviously referring to immediate form. Blanking against Sunderland and Norwich means he didn't have immediate form.

          Townsend scored in his last game ergo... 😛

          The fact you've suggested 3 games in a row means "no form" yet Sanchez was already on two adds to the argument.

          1. Cradders
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            I said maybe, 3 games suggest his form is drying up, but there are so many variables with form. He could be playing well yet just not picking up FPL points. Arsenal in general (and most of the usual top clubs) have been incredibly inconsistent this season it's hard to say any of their players have had long periods of good form. Except Aguero but he's not played for about 1/3 of the season

      3. Ten Season Wonder
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        How you can say Alexis has no form is cray!

      4. _Gunner
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Scored 6 in his last 7 ! He has the form

    3. Ten Season Wonder
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      I did exactly the same thing.

    4. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Benching Townsend would have been stupid, people were considering him as captain.

      However.. We definitely should have benched Kane over Sanchez.. Ah well.

  14. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    No Welbeck no AOC looks like Townsend should be getting his Euros

  15. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Anyone else already planning ahead for next year? This season has been a complete write off for me.

    1. drughi
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      I'm gonna pretend this season never happened

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        The only thing still keeping me focused on my team is that I am 19 points behind the leader in my mini - league - this is after I have been ahead all season and he hit a whopping 158 points in GW34.

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Will start after the play offs but I have a shortlist

    3. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      you can kick off RMT today

  16. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Does anyone know who Enter Shaqiri (Daniel Kemp) is? Does he go under another alias on here?

    1. John t penguin
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      I have hazy memory of seeing the name on here a few weeks ago

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      If you read this Daniel can you add me on twitter @kingsoflyon7 or let me know the best way to contact you

    3. Jigger & Pony
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Didn't realize but just saw I am no. 8 on your Going Out With a Bang league... If Defoe goes wild I will party 😉

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Its getting tight at the top. Ive somehow managed to sneak into the top 50 🙂

        1. Jigger & Pony
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Good luck. Btw will you count GW38 scores in the league results too or we stop at GW37?

          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            GW38 scores count too.

            1. Jigger & Pony
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              Thanks

  17. ronty
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Robles
    Gabriel-Bellerin-Smalling(Evans-Delaney)
    Payet-Lanzini-KdB-Alexis (Firmino)
    Carroll-Costa-Defoe

    Lanzini to? (money no issue)

    1. Jigger & Pony
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Tadic/Mane

      1. merin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        This

  18. HellasLEAF
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    West Ham...

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Complete Sham...

    2. ronty
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      are going to send LvG back to Netherlands

    3. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      United

  19. Does Bonus Allocation Need Changing?
    J0E
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    • 14 Years
    7 years, 12 months ago

    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Bonus changes

    There was considerable debate over the weekend over bonus allocation, in particular the strong display in the Bonus Point System of those such as Charlie Daniels and Cesar Azpilicueta compared to goal scorers such as Jermain Defoe.

    For me I think this current bonus allocation is the best I can remember.
    But what do you think? Has the current BPS nailed it? What changes would you propose? And does anyone really want to see a return of the man (Barry Ferguson's dad) in the stand?

    1. Slartibartfast
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      As an Azpilicueta owner, I think the BPS totally nailed it this weekend.

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Its the best there has been but there is obviously still some tweaks required. Scoring the winning goal and then getting booked for the celebration should not negatively impact the BPS. It may be as simple as removing the negative BPS for a booking as we're already being punished with the -1

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Should the positive BPS for scoring a goal also be removed as we're already being rewarded with the 4/5/6?

        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Fair point. My argument would be that that is it a bonus point and scoring goals should be rewarded as a bonus but I do see where youre coming from.

    3. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      The current system is transparent and clear for all to see how bps are added.

      The "Man in the Stand" was highly subjective and created a number of arguments/confusion/paranoia on here as a result.

      Barry Ferguson's dad has been put to bed...and needs to remain there.

    4. Mikeharbrw
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      I think they've pretty much got it spot on at the moment.

    5. John t penguin
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      only thing I think is that forwards seem to lose a lot of points after the game, offsides and off target shots I am guessing.
      seems to punish forwards who try more. most forwards will get caught offside at least 2-3 times and have 2-3 shots off target, so are starting game -4 or -6 really. Where as most defenders will get the pass completion points as standard.
      just a thought

      1. Ziro Becomes One
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        This.

      2. Eden Hazardous
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Forwards , on the other hand , are rewarded by 24 BPS for scoring a goal. Midfield get 18 BPS and defenders 12.

        1. John t penguin
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          and the reverse happens for CS, which in both cases is as it should be. I was looking at it as players getting negative points for positive moves if you get what I mean. The best opposite example I can think of is a defender who tries to block a shot but fails should then get a -1

        2. Ryan
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          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          This, its about the balance. They get rewarded more for goals to make up for the Shots off Target etc

      3. bitterandstout
          7 years, 12 months ago

          this

      4. andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        I like it how it is now, at least you can see why they're awarded.

        Usually if goals are scored they're the winners in the BP fight so the odd occasion where it doesn't happen isn't a big deal.

        Much better than man in the stands, although I have fond memories of Charlie Adams picking up 3 BPs in a 3-1 loss to Man City. Can't even remember if he scored but he got the BPs!

      5. Holy See
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        This was ludicrous, Iheanacho plays 7 mins, ball hits off his back and goes in, gets 3bps. No system will ever be perfect, but, y'know, that's a large flaw imo... Can you tell I owned Toure 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jipxVYfhy8

      6. Whirl
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        I enjoyed every one of Charlie Adam's 45 bonus points in 10/11

      7. Monklane
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        The number of points that can be lost when a player gets a yellow card is daft.

      8. Eden Hazardous
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        The BPS System is perfect IMO. I watched the entire SUN-CHE match and Defoe was offside for almost the entire match. No way he deserved 3 bonus points .

        1. BananaNose Maldonado
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          But defenders on a side that lost and gave up three goals somehow got 3 (Azpi) and 2 (Matic) bonus points? That's a flaw.

          I'm really happy that you guys got an assist and scored a goal. But how about you do your job and not let in three goals?

          I think winning match BPS should be added. That's the point of playing the match, after all.

            • 10 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            There were 5 goal scorers and 3 different assisters in the game. Matic scored a goal and Azpi got an assist. I think if they did enough of the other stuff they are deserving of the points.

              • 10 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              Winning match BPS would be interesting though maybe a +3 or a +6 for it, but then disadvantages the good players on the losing team. How much were Azpi and Matic to blame for conceding those 3?

              1. BananaNose Maldonado
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 12 months ago

                It's hard to tell how much they were to blame. That requires the kind of subjective measure that most want to avoid.

                I recognize that great performances can occur from the losing side, and that should be rewarded. And I'm not saying it should be impossible for a player in a losing side to get ANY bonus. I just think adding a few points for winning a match - like, as you mention, 3 or 6 points to players who play 60 minutes for a winning side - might reward the most important accomplishment of all.

                1. FPL Daniel
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 12 months ago

                  Best ever system imo. Second best is man in stands

          1. Mark
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            • 17 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            If an individual is outstanding but his side still concede goals, should that impact on the reckoning of that individual.

            If De Gea make 10 saves in a match, but loses 2-0. Can he not get bonus?

            Azpi put in some startling defensive stats on Saturday in addition to his assist. Should he be punished because the whole defence conceded three? Arguably they would have conceded more without his performance.

            Are we saying that a defender has to keep a clean sheet to get bonus regardless of his efforts in the match?

            Is that not directly against the purpose of the bonus system. Defenders are already rewarded for team efforts - eg: the clean sheet.

            Surely the bonus should recognise individual excellence regardless of how the team or defence performed?

            1. BananaNose Maldonado
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              Nowhere did I say that a player on a losing side can't get any bonus points. You have somehow taken my comment to the extreme.

              I simply feel that winning a match should be rewarded with a FEW extra BPS. If a player on a losing side still performs well enough with that addition then they should get all the points they statistically deserve.

            2. FPL Daniel
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              Upvoted Mark

            3. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 12 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              Yep absolutely. Bonus is all about individual performances not team performances.

      9. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        I think the winning goal BPS should be slightly more, with less punishments for shots off target. If a striker narrowly misses six shots (-6 BPS), he shouldn't be punished on the same level as someone who makes two errors that lead to goals (-6 BPS).

        Also yellow cards are punished a bit excessively, since they cause the 1 point deduction on top of the -3 BPS, or -4 if it was a foul. Some yellows are just for passionate celebrations and 'tactical fouls' that are sometimes the right thing to do.

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 17 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Making the winning goal stronger opens it up for subs coming on for 5 minutes, scoring the winner and claiming 3 bonus.

          Would we accept that?

          1. Forza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            That's exactly what Iheanacho did in gameweek 16 against Swansea (7 minutes and the most fortunate deflected goal all season), and he got 30 BPS, only 1 ahead of Toure who got the assist and was very quiet. You could argue that he deserved the 3 bonus in a game where nobody else did much.

      10. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        I've always maintained that bonuses should be given for the things that haven't already been rewarded with points. So YCs and CS should have no impact, goals should simply be counted as shots on target, assists as key passes. That way the guy who scores a hat-trick will still be (correctly) in pole position for 3 BPs as he's had 3 SoT but it shouldn't be a shoo-in vs (e.g) the defender who's made 3 goal-saving blocks or interceptions. And a defender who's clearly been MoM would not lose all 3 bonus points when the 93rd minute consolation goes in.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          This ^^^. So much this.

          Would hold on to the advantage of transparency, while improving the system further, imo also.

        2. Ziro Becomes One
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I agree with this.

        3. foppaldo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Agree fully!

          The one thing I'd add is that instead of the 3-2-1 bonus point for the three highest scoring players in every game, I'd rather see (high) thresholds with no upper or lower limit to have many players achieve bonus points.

          I find it frustrating that a firecracker of a game will result in only three players being rewarded for their excellent overall performance. At the same time a complete snoozefest of a game will also result in three players getting the same amount of bonus points when they hardly bothered to turn up.

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            I've raised this as an idea in the past - there are pros and cons I think.

            1. foppaldo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              There's definetly a risk that it will make the game too complicated for those less addicted that those that frequent this site. On the other hand, it's not that big a step from 1 point for 3 saves and -1 for every 2 conceded.

              There's also a risk in getting the thresholds right, and the difference in getting threshold-1 bps and threshold bps will be huge. As such it might introduce luck even more as a factor, which might not be a good idea?

        4. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 17 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Agree with this.

          The BPS should really be assessing the individual's performance, irrespective of the result generated by their team.

          A superb display in a losing team should be able to get bonus. If we rule out bonus due to factors that influence the result of the match too much then we could rule that out completely.

        5. Fantasy Vs Reality
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I agree with YC's and CS's. But goals scored are much better than shots on target so should be rewarded with more bonus points.

        6. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I don't agree with this at all. Using that logic the guy who is clearly the best player on the pitch, eg a hattrick hero, might not get maximum bonus. Thats just wrong imo

      11. Ruth_NZ
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        BPs favour "obsessive" managers greatly because we understand how they work and how important they are. In some weeks they can be up towards 20% of your score.

        Actually I'd like to see their influence reduced, 3 points is a lot when sometimes they are achieved simply by scoring 1 scuffed goal or from 1 clean sheet when the difference between one defender and another is very marginal.

        2,1 rather than 3,2,1 maybe. But in terms of how they are calculated it seems pretty neutral to me.

        1. John t penguin
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          that's a fair point about the scuffing goal.

      12. thes7s
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Not a fan of bonus system at all and this season's system is ridiculous and inconsistent, Fuchs hogging bonus when he didn't contribute, samewise Alli, Long not getting any when he got double digits.

        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          The whole point is that it should recognise players who *do* contribute to their team's performance, regardless of whether they've been otherwise rewarded for goals/assists/clean sheets.

          Fuchs consistently wins tackles, puts in dangerous crosses, etc. and so earns BPS even when the basic scoring hasn't rewarded him.

          Alli is sometimes wasteful and gets dispossessed which is rightly punished in the BPS system.

          It sounds like what you'd propose is to take the top 3 points scorers from the games and then add extra points to their totals.

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            I'm not saying the system is perfect by the way, I just object to the arguments that are trotted out too often:

            'Player X scored and Player Y didn't, why should Player Y get bonus?!'
            'Defender Z got a bonus?! WTF?! He conceded 2 goals!!'

            As though it's impossible for a player to have played well without applying the final touch to a move/keeping a clean sheet.

      13. LoyalRoyal
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        I like the current bonus system, I think it gives a good balance between defence and attack....if you start giving more bonus points for winning goals etc. then defenders will lose out and their value will diminish, however this season we have often seen in a 1-0 win the defenders come out very well.

      14. DeadStarComing
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Only my second season playing FPL but personally I think the way the bonus system works is a little weird. The way they are awarded to (usually) just 3 players per match means that an average player in a low scoring match can earn more points than a good performing player in a high scoring match.

        Also most bonus points go to the players who have already scored well so all they do in most cases is increase the points these players earn. BPS shouldn't include anything that's already counted for in the scoring system. I've even considered whether you even need bonus points? Why not just add a few more things to the standard scoring?

        1. DeadStarComing
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Forgot to say - I am 100% against the man in the stand approach. Stats should always be used for scoring a fantasy game, not some ones opinion.

        • 10 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Lots of good stuff has been said in here I just want to add that I don't actually like the winning goal bonus at all. What makes Defoe's goal more important than Khazri's equaliser or Borini's equaliser? Without those goals Defoe would never have even been in a position to score the game-winning goal.

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          +42

        2. foppaldo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Completely agree.
          "Winning goal" is a terrible idea. "Oh, by coincidence you scored the third goal. Horray for you! Have a bonus!"

          Getting bonus points for being on the winning side was in the EA Sports Index (or whatever the previous bonus points system was called). It was horrible.
          It ensured that if you lost there was absolutely no individual performance imaginable that made it possible to get bonus points. It goes against everything the bonus system should be: rewarding individual performances that hasn't already been rewarded by the regular points system.

        3. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Big moments should be rewarded imo. How much they are worth could be up for debate however.

      15. tambourineman
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Personally not a fan of maximum bonus going to players who get less than 20 minutes just because they score, 3 points for stepping foot on the pitch for a minute seems excessive when compared to creating a big chance.

        The bonus is fairly well shared out by positions (with possibly exception of GKs - Bojan has more bonus than Butland) but would like goals/clean sheets to be reduced so that individual actions like CBI/tackles/crosses/key passes/saves then would have more effect.

      16. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Personally I think the current bonus set up is fantastic. Its finely balanced and I think its now fair between all the positions of GKers, defenders, mids, forwards. It would be very easy to tip that balance if we take away or add value in any particular area.

    6. Andrew
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Really want Man Utd to grab 4th, Pep in the Europa League will be hilarious

    7. Scout Pick Community Champion Lottery – Gameweek 38
      J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Scout Pick Community Champion Lottery – Gameweek 38

      Once again we are on the look out for a champion to represent the community to take on the Scout Picks and win the chance of a prize.

      If you want to take part please email your FFS name and FPL ID number to community@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk .

      The champion will then be selected at random shortly after the deadline of 2pm tomorrow (Tuesday) and then be asked to submit their XI by Friday 2pm by emailing me at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk

      We only need 11 picks and please be mindful of the 84m budget. There’s no captain in the picks either and please stick to a designated FPL formation, including no more than three players from one team. No captain or chips will be applied.

      At the end of the season the champion who beats the picks by the highest margin will win a £100 Amazon voucher.

      To beat current front runner Red Devil you need to beat the picks by more than 25 points.

      In addition, from this week FantasyBet (https://www.fantasybet.com/) are offering Community Champions the chance to win free entry into their £500 Guaranteed ‘Big Weekly’ game worth £22 by taking on our Scout Picks in a specially set up game.

      The eligible Community Champion who beats the Scout Picks by the highest margin every month will win a free entry into the £600 guaranteed ‘Boss’ game worth £55. This is an extra offer that is available to any community champion who is 18 or over and not based in the US.

      Champions will not be able to be selected as a champion for a second time. The champion will be revealed in a new midweek Scout Picks article on Tuesday, which will outline our initial thinking around the picks. Our and the champions picks will be revealed as usual the day before the first match of the Gameweek.

      Should the community “Champion” fail to provide an initial or final Scout Pick selection, then an “Assistant Manager” chosen by us, will gain control of the selection to represent the community for the Gameweek in question.

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Applied!

        1. Ziro Becomes One
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Rejected. 😉

          1. Irish Madridista ⭐
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            *Ignored 😉

            1. Ziro Becomes One
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              *file thrown outside

      2. Back on the horse
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Entered. This will be my week

    8. John t penguin
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      I think I am going to have to find a Walcott Anonymous meeting.
      I have fallen off the wagon
      http://lessonsfromaparalyzeddog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/69377227_3746e341de_z.jpg

    9. Ten Season Wonder
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      A very strange set of results this weekend just gone weren't it.

      The most random was Swansea d*cking the Hammers in their own back yard

      1. Jafalad
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Quite common for the time of year when motivation levels between teams varies. So glad I BB'd in 34. 😉

      2. Father Demo
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Agreed, hoping hammers will be much improved against MU for the final home game. Will they still do the bubbles at Olympic Stadium next year?

      3. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Especially for those who maxed out on hammers.

    10. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Very fearful that Bilic will actually come to his senses and play Antonio at RW and Sakho up front. Hopefully I'm wrong.

      In the grand scheme of things I don't really care though as long as United manage to pull out a win from this.

      1. _Gunner
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Do you think Carrol will get some minutes?

        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I'm fearful that it's only a bench appearance but this isn't based of anything, just dread.

      2. andy85wsm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Indeed. I'm hoping Lanzini, Payet and Carroll all blank and we get the win!

    11. GWK 38 Differentials
      andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 12 months ago

      Who are the punts for GW38 then? Who's this years Walcott?

      1. Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Hoping for a monster Tadic haul

        1. Slartibartfast
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Firmino -> Tadic for a -4 on the cards for me.

          Ozil -> Sanchez will have to be my other transfer

        2. Numb
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Surely Mane is more likely to haul if he's shaken off his illness? Tadic seems more of an assister

          1. John t penguin
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            you aint seen my sister then

      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Tadic / Arnie / KdB / Ighalo / Sessignon

        1. A Defender's Nightmare
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Those last 2 names 😯

      3. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Walcott again if Ozil is out.

        1. andy85wsm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          What makes you think he'll start when he didn't this weekend?

          1. Slartibartfast
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            Welbeck possibly injured

            1. andy85wsm
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              Good point, forgot about that.

              1. John t penguin
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 12 months ago

                and iwobi off before 60 again, must mean he isn't seen as performing

                1. bitterandstout
                    7 years, 12 months ago

                    was a tactical substitution.

              2. pundit of punts
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 12 months ago

                This.

        2. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          A Saint or a Manc.

          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            Delph you say?

            1. Irish Madridista ⭐
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              Bony at his old club? 😉

              1. Ziro Becomes One
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 12 months ago

                Not eligible to play vs parent club. 😉

        3. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Somen Tchoyi

          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            bless you

            1. Granville
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 12 months ago

              You're welcome.

        4. Ziro Becomes One
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Whatever punt you take, captain should be Kun. He wants the gold boot.

          1. The Real Big Vern
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            or Vardy, same position

        5. Ten Season Wonder
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Gru? Tadic?

          Not really a punt but KDB could be a game changer.

        6. Jigger & Pony
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Shane Long

        7. Bunk Moreland
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Thinking Giroud could score big after he finally got a goal again. With Welbeck out he should start.
          Wilshere is an outsider.

        8. CAPTAIN BLACKLIST
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Long, Mane, Tadic from Soton, Giroud at Arse, KDB if you don't have him - basically target form players for teams still with something to play for against dead teams - wish I'd kept my TC now for a last day Tadic punt against Palace reserves - could another 23pt haul be on the cards?!

        9. Biancazzurri
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          KdB. If United do the business at Upton Park.

        10. Gizzachance
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          giroud, long, rooney

        11. DA Minnion (Former great)
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Giroud

        12. Back on the horse
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Gardner vs pool reserves

        13. MarkyMarkovic
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Ramsey

        14. shirtless
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I can do Milner>9.5m but I'm worried he'll start and have a 10 pointer and my new recruit will blank!

          1. DMil
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            Can't see Milner starting so close to Europa League final. I'm taking out him and Sturridge. Guaranteed crap Liverpool lineup v WBA

        15. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          it's usually a player with dreadlocks. Who has dreadlocks now?

        16. Railwayman
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Mane, Vardy or even Walcott himself again.

        17. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Shane Long

      4. Ian Davis
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Tadic or Mane? This is a tough one..

        1. Ten Season Wonder
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Tadic for me

        2. Fergietime
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Mane is ill, yellow flag

      5. Gideons Rolling Another One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Chances of Iwobi playing a full 90 at the weekend?

        1. Jigger & Pony
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Very slim

          1. Gideons Rolling Another One
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            Thinking he may even be on the bench.

      6. Fergietime
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        I need Ageuro to cover me next weekend, how does this sound?

        Aguero and Hazard to Kane and Tadic for -4?

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          I'm considering benching Kane and Kun is my current captain...

          Just get Tadic.

        2. The Man Pastore
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 12 months ago

          Keep Kun

          1. Fergietime
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 12 months ago

            ughh sorry guys i messed up, I meant Im thinking of selling Kane and Hazard to get Aguero and Tadic

      7. The Red Devil
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Is being 15th in the league 'trapdoor' brag worthy? 😛

      8. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 12 months ago

        Good chance I'll have no keeper this weekend. Smart move for a -4 hit?

        Mignolet, Kane >> De Gea, Giroud

        Current side:
        Migs, Robles; Smalling, Azpi, Bellerin, Reid, Huth(ban); Hazard, Sanchez, Payet, Mahrez, Lanzini; Kane, Aguero, Defoe.