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Dugout Discussion June 26

Dugout Discussion – Hungary vs Belgium

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Sunday’s third and final fixture sees Hungary and Belgium do battle for the right to take on Wales in the Euro 2016 quarter-finals.

Having bounced back from an opening loss to Italy with wins over Republic of Ireland and Sweden, Belgium are regarded as favourites for the top half of the draw.

The Red Devils were placed fourth for shots on goal over the group stages, though found the net on just four occasions with big-hitters Kevin de Bruyne and Eden Hazard yet to open their accounts in the tournament.

Bernd Storck’s side will be no pushovers, though. Despite firing far less attempts than their opponents across the first three matches (35 to 56), Hungary registered just one attempt on target fewer, firing 16 to Belgium’s 17.

Joint-top scorers with Wales for the group stages, their three-goal salvo against Portugal last time out certainly suggests this evening’s match could be tighter than many expect.

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  1. RSe
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Dier or Alli captain?

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    1. The Wise Owl
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Alli.

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    2. JoshHuntCUFC
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Same scenario here, I am edging towards Dier

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    3. emyoueffsee
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Depends if you're chasing or ahead. Alli if chasing, Dier if not.

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  2. emyoueffsee
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Alli, Hart or Alba?

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    1. Your Man With The Hair
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Hart

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  3. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Worst hangover ever,thankfully I booked today off work 🙂

    #Irishandproud

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  4. Meinhoff
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Messi retiring from international football. The debate "Is Messi the best player of all time" ends here surely

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      After Hazards display last night of course hes not the best of all time

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    2. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      He's the best player I'll see in my lifetime.

      Of all time? Quite possibly but it's almost a pointless debate as different generations will prefer "their" players.

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      1. Meinhoff
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I prefer Maradona, and Messi is a player of "my generation". You cannot be the best ever if you haven't been a world champion. IMO

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        1. Your Man With The Hair
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          He was a club world champion with Barca a couple of times if that counts...?

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        2. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Not buying that imo.

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        3. GreenWindmill
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          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Never understood this argument.

          By that standard you would rule out Eusebio, di Stefano, Cruyff, Messi, C. Ronaldo, Maldini, Best... but include Marco Materazzi as a contender. Circumstance and single moments shouldn't define an entire career in my view.

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          1. andy85wsm
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            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Hear hear!

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          2. Meinhoff
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Yes, I'd rule them out by that standard, but also rule out Materazzi on the basis of his footballing skills. There are no contenders, it's Pele, Maradona or Messi. Of course, it's just my opinion.

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            1. GreenWindmill
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              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              So basically only a handful of nations can produce the best player? It doesn't matter how good a player emerges from Jamaica say, he can never be better than Pele? Surely that's a flaw in the standard.

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              1. Meinhoff
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Well, we just have to deal with the fact that some nations are more talented for football than others

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                1. Kings of Lyon ★
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Its not an arguement on how good the nation is its an arguement on how good the player is and Messi is the best.

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                  1. Meinhoff
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    We have to have some objective measurable standards is all what Im saying. I enjoyed watching Ronaldinho the most, so I can say Ronaldinho is the best.

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                2. GreenWindmill
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                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  If George Best had been born in Brazil he may have won the World Cup whilst being the exact same player - why would that then suddenly make him a contender for best player in the world when being born in Northern Ireland prevents it?

                  I'm really not seeing a sensible argument here.

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                  1. Meinhoff
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Come on, Best was a great player, but there were far better players than him. And that doesn't have anything with the country in which he was born.

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                    1. GreenWindmill
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                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      I'm not saying Best WAS the best, I'm saying that to rule him out based on nationality is absurd.

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                      1. Meinhoff
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        No, I'm ruling them out, as I said, by their skills first, and I named the three that are widely regarded (rightly so) as the "contenders". Lack of World Cup title is just my argument why Messi isn't that.

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                      2. GreenWindmill
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                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        "You cannot be the best ever if you haven't been a world champion.". Seems pretty hard and fast!

                        Anyway, there is no answer - it's all opinions 🙂

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                  2. Meinhoff
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    What would be your standards for determining the best football player ever? It maybe cannot be determined at all, but just for the sake of the argument

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                    1. GreenWindmill
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                      • 12 Years
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                      There are no measurable standards in my view - any attempt to place hard constraints is going to be a problem. It's a qualitative debate, not a quantitative one.

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                      1. Meinhoff
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Fair enough. I just tried to discuss it like it was possible to put some measurable standards on it 🙂

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        4. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          There's too much luck involved in World Cups for that to be a good argument.

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      2. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I believe that football is improving in time, it's a fact actually. Judging by that, Messi is 100% the best player of all time, which makes Ronaldo 2nd.

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        1. Meinhoff
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Football in general is improving in time, not individual talent. By you argument every player in the future will be better than these players now. Can't wait for the Rashford vs Alli best of all time debate in 10 years time 🙂

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          1. Pariße
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Not my logic, that would be your interpretation of my logic.
            And trust me, it's not going to be Rashford vs Alli.

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    3. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Messi is the best player in the world fullstop and in the future don't call me Surely

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      1. Meinhoff
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Maybe, but not in the past, Surely 🙂

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    4. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Bottler.

      Should still potentially have two World Cups in him.

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  5. CFC1990
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Is it worth swapping out Rami to Cahill or Smalling because of his suspension?

    If Spain is eliminated, I will swap JuanFran out for Cahill or Smalling.

    I am playing the Sun game and have 8 transfers left for the entire tournament.

    0m in funds.

    Patricio*
    Hector*, JuanFran, Rami*, Meunier*
    De Bruyne*, Payet*, Kroos*
    Gomez*, Ronaldo*, Bale*

    * denotes players whose teams are definately in the Quarter Final's.

    Many thanks

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    1. BigManBakar
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      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Swap Rami out, imo.

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  6. Your Man With The Hair
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Captain for tonight guys?

    a) DDG
    b) Walker
    c) Fabregas

    cheers

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    1. CFC1990
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Out of those, i would actually say Walker

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    2. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Walker!

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  7. CFC1990
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    What do you guys think the England team should be tonight?

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    1. Your Man With The Hair
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Beaten

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    2. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Hart
      Walker - Smalling - Cahill - Rose
      Dier - Rooney
      Lallana - Alli - Vardy
      Sturridge

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      1. ..RL..
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Some reports state that Sterling will start ahead of Lallana.

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  8. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Is Lallana going to start??

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    1. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Out through injury by the sound of things

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Lalllana's in pajamas

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    3. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Not in the predicted lineup:

      Hart
      Walker - Smalling - Cahill - Rose
      Dier - Rooney
      Sturridge - Alli - Sterling
      Kane

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  9. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    can we discuss the non kdb assist? Don't think it's been discussed enough here

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    1. Weeb Kakashi
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Please! I have had enough salt to the wound!!

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Thankfully im not playing the game so i dont even know what the debate is about

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Why are you here then?

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        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          No idea mate

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    3. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Still devastated it hasn't been awarded Bemba. Only 16% ownership so he's pretty much a differential, more so when you've captained him. What's worse is the non-awarding of the assist would give those who had Payet captain a chance to catch up with Dier (c) 🙁

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Yep, pretty outrageous in my opinion

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    4. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/06/26/dugout-discussion-hungary-vs-belgium/?hc_page=17#hc_comment_13495819

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
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        thanks 🙂

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    5. nevins84
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Feeling pretty smug I went against the grain and picked Haz over KDB

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    6. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Its an FPL assist I dont think its an assist though. KdB did not set up the goal Hazard made and created the goal

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      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I think the big problem here KOL is consistency and the definition of a 'solo',
        The rules lack clarity and it seems MCDs already gave out an assist to this type of 'solo'

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  10. CFC1990
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Think England will keep a clean sheet tonight?

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    1. SpaceCadet
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      No

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    2. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Probably yes.

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    3. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
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      Yes

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    4. Big Sum
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Maybe

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  11. BigManBakar
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    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Morning gents 🙂

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  12. andy85wsm
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    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    This is one of my favourite twitter accounts right now - https://twitter.com/TitanicGoal

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I expected better off of you Andy, laughing others misfortune isn't cool, you expect an email from Jonty

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
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        *you can 😉

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  13. nevins84
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone else looking at there team thinking there might be no need to use the wildcard ???

    Looks like i just have 1 player out this round....

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    1. BigManBakar
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      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      That's exactly why it was best to use it within the first few matchdays.

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      1. nevins84
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Possibly... but I was doing fine, I wasn't using it for the sake of it..

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    2. RustyBz
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Only have 1 player out too, but can do without the 3 England players & Welsh players next round!

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  14. RustyBz
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    At club level, Messi is the greatest player of all time.

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    Rupert The Horse
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    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    NEW POST
    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/06/27/scout-notes-last-16-day-2/

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  16. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    No choice but to wc this lot right? Or could get away with the 4 fts?

    Hennessey halldorsson
    hector munier dier pazdan RAMI
    hazard kroos ramsey RAKITIC GOTZE
    griezmann lewandowski pelle

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