Opinion

This Much We Know – Gameweek 22

Blossoming mid-price strikers, failing midfield royalty and free-scoring backline options appear to be directing us to another round of formation dancing. Here are the lessons learned from Gameweek 22…

Sanchez’ sulks bought him his eight points…
Hunched on a Liberty Stadium bench, head in hands and hidden under a training jacket, Alexis Sanchez made his feelings known when he was hooked in the Gameweek 21 win at Swansea City.

Eight days later, Sanchez remained on the Emirates pitch with both Olivier Giroud and Mesut Ozil withdrawn late on. In their absence, it was the Chilean who stepped up to cheekily chip home his “Panenka” spot-kick to send the stadium and the 18.5% of Fantasy Premier League managers who captained him, into rapture.

There was undoubtedly good fortune behind the belated Sanchez return, but you have to wonder just whether his reaction in South Wales was a factor in the decision behind keeping him on the pitch to seize his moment.

Wenger’s reluctance to deal with the South American’s scorn and the press’ line of questioning thereafter, may now be a factor in his late-match thinking.

Coutinho needs more time…
In contrast, Liverpool’s own treasured South American asset seemed all too willing to earn early respite.

Making a first Premier League since his Gameweek 13 ankle injury, Philippe Coutinho departed the Anfield pitch before the hour-mark, as Liverpool sought new impetus to see off a rejuvenated Swansea City.

The Brazilian was unmistakably muted on his return. Two dribbles, one cross, one chance created and not a single attempt on goal – even when restricted to less than an hour, these are not the kind of numbers we associate with Coutinho’s season.

Instead, it was compatriot Roberto Firmino who stepped up, abruptly reversing his own 10-Gameweek decline with a brace of goals that diverted attention his way.

Confidence in Coutinho has already suffered a blow. Having recuperated almost 200,000 lost owners over the last two Gameweek intervals, he is now about to suffer another small decline, with Saturday’s curtailed comeback casting doubt among those who leapt early hoping for an instant reward.

New blood has revived the ailing Swans…
It’s fair to say that we’d written Swansea City’s trip to Anfield off as a rout: five goals were expected, but few would have predicted that the visitors would claim three of them.

But, unlike Sam Allardyce at Selhurst Park, it appears that Paul Clement has quickly inspired a reversal of fortunes in South Wales.

Astute new signings have helped matters. Both Martin Olsson and, in particular, Tom Carroll, appear natural fits for the Swans.

Having spent a prolonged loan period with the club, Carroll, in particular, took little time to lift energy levels in midfield and, priced at just 4.2, he now appears an obvious route for those pursuing a cheap, bench-warming fifth option.

But Swansea’s assets can be far more than that.

Sigurdsson’s goal, his first since Gameweek 15, issued a reminder of his ability and importance to the cause, just as sales of the Icelander began to gather pace.

Now, with four favourable opponents scheduled to arrive at the Liberty Stadium, the complexion has changed.

Sigurdsson’s appeal has a new sheen, fuelled by fresh optimism created by the new blood, both on the pitch and in the backroom.

Llorente and Carroll are doing their bit for the 3-4-3…
Fernando Llorente is another component of a potential revival for Swansea.

Two goals at Anfield, his first strikes away from home, were unexpected. Similarly, Llorente’s record of seven goals and two assists over his last ten Gameweeks has crept up on us – he is now a very real consideration, particularly for those ignoring Sigurdsson’s midfield charms.

Andy Carroll joins Llorente in leading a revival of the mid-price striker. A brace on Teesside took him to four goals in his last four Gameweeks and dismissed the perception that West Ham would struggle to hurt opponents with Dimitri Payet off the menu.

Combined, the pair have made strides to force a re-assessment of the 3-4-3 set-up.

When Charlie Austin’s shoulder gave way, we appeared bereft of options that bridged the gap between the proven heavy-hitters and the budget enablers. Now both Carroll and Llorente have demonstrated the talent and form to fill that void and, suddenly, a three-man attack is back on the wishlist.

….as is a fading Hazard….
Eden Hazard’s form is compounding that particular shift in thinking.

A big spend on a five-man midfield relies on heavy-hitters firing and, while Sanchez has delivered a relentless tide of points, Hazard has hit the buffers and has done little to justify his price tag.

That’s bad news for 3-5-2 zealots, who now find themselves turning to cheaper replacements and wondering where the liberated funds can be spent.

With Payet out of the picture and Kevin De Bruyne and Mesut Ozil not yet trusted to punch their weight, Hazard’s malaise is a big issue that will likely drive to a big spend in defence or, more likely a regression back to 3-4-3.

Coleman’s finishing can outpace Baines as a wing-back…
Everton’s defence are at least presenting prosperous options to suggest that a four-man backline could prove profitable.

Seamus Coleman has made the biggest strides.

Locked in an ongoing head-to-head with team-mate Leighton Baines in vying for our attention, the Irishman has embraced his new wing-back role to deliver heavy returns.

Three successive clean sheets have been accompanied by a goal and an assist, as Coleman’s energy and finishing ability overshadows the craft and spot-kick potential offered by Baines.

More touches, more passes received, more crosses – Coleman has swamped Baines over the recent three-match spell and, reveling in a new freedom to join the attack, his potential contribution makes greater spend and numbers in our defence a viable approach.

A Baggies defensive double-act can’t be dismissed…
Tony Pulis’ rearguard are also adding to the allure of a four-man backline.

An erratic provider of clean sheets, the Baggies nonetheless possess two assets in Chris Brunt and Gareth McAuley that have the potential to override such shortcomings supply double-digits. A fact so beautifully illustrated by Gameweek 22’s returns.

While the Sunderland shut-out was a first since Gameweek 12, the fixture list remains a strong ally over the month ahead, suggesting that further defensive points can go hand-in-hand with Brunt and McAuley’s continued attacking promise.

One of the pair looks as essential as it gets and, as Saturday demonstrated, covering both could even prove a worthwhile strategy.

Hull are no pushovers….
While Hazard’s Gameweek 22 failings provided much frustration, it should noted that Hull City were a far more resilient opponent than billed.

It’s clear that, like Clement at Swansea, Marco Silva has been quick to make his mark with the Tigers.

There is new discipline and belief in the camp and, in Harry Maguire, they appear to possess an unlikely new backline barrier that is capable of dominating attackers and lending a considerable presence to the attack.

Abel Hernandez has shown willing and a composure in front of goal, while Lazar Markovic could be a canny acquisition.

Sadly, his arrival on loan could merely be compensation for the loss of Robert Snodgrass – easily Hull’s key Fantasy asset to this point.

Nonetheless, Silva’s intervention has seen Hull shake off whipping boy status and, while Zlatan Ibrahimovic will contest for the Gameweek 23 captaincy, a haul in a waltzing Manchester United Old Trafford victory may just be a stretch.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

872 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Dunno what to do. Little lad played his WC last night and then proudly showed me his team with a reinstated Sanchez.

    "The fightback begins"...his words not mine.

    I could match his front seven with a (-4) !!....Would that be too cruel ?

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Nothing is too cruel.

    2. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Got to be cruel to be kind. It'll make him a more resilient individual.

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        In the right measure...of course

    3. Viprin
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Give the kid a chance

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Do you think so ?....I could do it just for the sniggers and then start changing the week after.

        1. Viprin
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          This,could also work 🙂

        2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Winning is more important than competing. Whoever tells you different is wrong:-). Win at all cost and take no prisoners

    4. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Too boring*

    5. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Still a lot of days till the deadline... surely his front seven won't be the same now as it will be in a week? 🙂

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Dunno.

    6. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Would it have been a step too far to say you've already conceded defeat son?

    7. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Terrible time to WC - are you sure he is your son? Think an appearance on Jeremy Kyle is in order.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        He's got rid of Hazard.....

        Could I possibly....mmmmm....

  2. socinicos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    hey guys! help with this team

    Valdes
    Azpi - Kosc - Jones -
    Sanchez - Coutinho - Philips - Eriksen - Davies
    Ibra - Kane

    Bench: Jaku, Crouch, Klavan, Amat

    Thanks

    1. Viprin
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Looks good

      1. socinicos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        any suggestions for a transfer or not needed u think? 0.1 ITB

        1. Viprin
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I'd save,never know if someone gets injured during cup matches

          1. socinicos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            nice one, cheers bro. The only transfer i'd make would be bringing in Wimmer for Klavan

  3. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    -- Players Likely to rise before GW23

    Costa Jones Jakupovic
    Carroll Antonio Alli Llorente Firmino Holgate Sanchez
    Eriksen Coleman Funes Mori

    -- Players likely to drop before GW23

    Smith Kingsley
    Mané Hazard Lallana Origi Defoe Snodgrass Akè
    Capoue Holebas Van Dijk

    1. fedolefan
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Dang it. Double whammy on my planned Smith to Funes Mori move next week.

  4. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    How much does this site cost? Thinking of buying it when I hit that £76m jackpot.

    1. Morgs
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Site current value £77m

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      £77m - unlucky.

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Joke is on you, I'll have £77m when I sell my house, car and wife.

  5. Morgs
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Unsure what to do with this.... Save FT or downgrade Haz?

    Grant
    Alonso, Rose, Baines
    Haz, Sanchez, Alli, Phillips
    Ibra, Kane, Defoe

    Mannone, Davies, Amat, 3.9

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Save looks Good in your scenario

      1. Morgs
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        thanks

    2. JogaSemmedo
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm tempted to do Haz to KDB see below. Could be a nice differential.

  6. Murray49
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Foster(Mid)
    Rose(Sun), Brunt(Mid), Baines(Stk)
    Stanislas(Palace), Alexis(Wat), Alli(Sun), Rodriguez(Swa)
    Kane (Sun), Zlatan(Hull), Rondon(Mid)

    Mannone(Spurs), Daniels(Palace), Yoshida (Swa), Pedro (Liv)
    0.3 in bank
    2 free transfers

    Any obvious use of free transfers im missing, im considering....
    Rodriguez or Pedro to Barkley/Mirallas/Lanzini
    Daniels to Funes Mori/Pieters

  7. Sonic Huth
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    So who are you guys captaining?

    1. Viprin
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Some guy with a ponytail (not Carroll)

  8. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Telegraph Football ✔ @TeleFootball
    @Matt_Law_DT exclusive: Granit Xhaka accused of racially abusing a member of staff at Heathrow airport

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      He's about of a tube.

  9. JogaSemmedo
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Is Hazard > KDB worth a punt for next 3 gws?

    Chasing a guy in a cash ML who is 120pts ahead. He has not city cover and I already own Kun. Have 2 FTs so would look to get the City pair out ahead of the blanks.

    1. Morgs
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I was also considering this. Given my only other player with a blank GW26 is Ibra (assuming United go through to the final) I should be able to just switch KdB back to Haz for the change in fixtures. Only concerns are that was one good performance by City after a long string of nothing, and Haz has the ability to sting/has penalties. Also I am leading ML rather than chasing. I think logic says go with it though and I probably will...

      1. JogaSemmedo
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        That's a sound plan. My team is as follows.

        Valdes Jaku

        Alonso Jones Brunt Kelly Amat

        Hazard Alli Sanchez Phillips De Roon

        Kun Carroll Ibra

        Issue i have is chasing. In your position you have option of Eriksen/Alli also if you don't have either to likely block people chasing. My rival has Kane, Lukaku & Eriksen who I'd like but feel I need to make a move to close gaps. Other issue is I'd like an Everton defender too, downgrading Haz to Eriksen value wise frees up money for me to make that move too. Tricky dilemma.

  10. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    COUTINHO FUTURE

    Good news :
    Reds are to open talks with representatives
    of Philippe Coutinho over a new contract.
    The Brazil international, who's been linked with
    a move to Barcelona, only signed a five-year
    deal in 2015 but fresh discussions are set to
    take place as a reward for his impressive form
    this season.

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      He'll be off if Barca come calling in the summer anyway.

    2. makaveli123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I
      like
      how
      you
      write
      🙂

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        😀 hahha

  11. makaveli123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Looking forward to the last part of the season. My biggest rivals have considerable higher TV, because I have stayed true to my conservative tactic with few hits. I am going to need some good differentials!

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      TV has never really mattered to me

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Most seasons I tend to find I end the season with loads left in the bank.

    2. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Good luck mate 🙂
      We are with you

    3. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      TV doesn't matter a jot

  12. Rex Lapis
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    which one?
    A. Holebas > Coleman
    B. Amat > Williams

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      A

    3. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      A

  13. Aram95
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    First post, can I please get some thoughts on my team:
    0 FT, 0.9 in the bank

    Heaton (Jaku)
    Alonso, Walker, McAuley (Azpili, Love)
    Sanchez, Alli, Lallana, Phillips, Stanislas
    Ibra [C], Giroud, Defoe

    Thinking about changing out the 3 strikers into Kane, Costa & Carrol over the next few weeks

  14. C_G
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    what to do here? WC?

    no FTs, 0 ITB

    Pick Grant

    Brunt Alonso Valencia Yoshi Amat

    Sanchez Eriksen Pogba Lallana Hojberg

    Kane Rondon Ibra

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Team is fine - why would you WC?

    2. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Don't WC

    3. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      why wc this team?gtg

  15. Duffy Dunk
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Heaton Grant
    Alonso Baines Brunt Friend Holgate
    Sanchez Alli Lallana Pedro Phillips
    Ibra Lukaku Rondon

    0 FT, 1.6 ITB

    Lukaku vs Stoke(A), Bournemouth(H)
    Kane vs Sunderland(A), Middlsebrough(H)
    Costa vs Liverpool(A), Arsenal(H)

    Who do you think will score more in the next 2 fixtures?

    A. Lukaku -> Kane
    B. Lukaku -> Costa
    C. Keep and hope

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      This is the 13th time you have posted an RMT in the last 48 hours.

      I like your username though.

      1. Duffy Dunk
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I don't think it's bad to look for as many answers as possible.
        If I had more replies I wouldn't ask again.
        I trust this community and I ask in case someone else's point of view makes me think different.
        Isn't this why this place exists?

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Maybe if you got a grav and contributed equally to other people's RMTs you would get more of a response? Just trying to help 🙂

    2. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      c

  16. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Lescott is an excellent signing for Sunderland. Exactly the player you need in a dogfight. They should be surviving now.

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Cruel and Sarcasm 😮

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      lol

    3. The Big Fella
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I wonder how much he is on a week for the rest of the season

  17. fedolefan
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone worse than this? Show yourself you jammy Capoue owners.

    Total Auto Subs : 9
    Total Auto Subs Points : 17

    Less than 2 points per auto-sub.

    1. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Total Auto Subs : 10
      Total Auto Subs Points : 7

      Less than 1 per auto-sub 😆

      1. fedolefan
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Quality. Do you own Smith? He's been world class when subbing in for me. 0 or 1.

        1. Ha.
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Nope

          Holebas (-1,1)
          Marney (2,2)
          Amat (0,1,1,0,1)
          Friend (0)

  18. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Foster Pickford
    Alonso Holebas Jones Baines Mc Auley
    Sanchez Eriksen Alli Philips (plus Whelan)
    Ibra Defoe Giroud
    3.1 itb 1ft

    Every time I hear Moyes being negative I push Defoe to the door. Should I act or stick? Can afford Lukaku or costa or shift to 352

  19. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    thoughts?? upcoming priorities?

    1Ft and 1.0 million itb

    Heaton/Grant
    Alonso/ Rose/ Baines/ Jones/ Chambers
    Sanchez/ Eriksen/ Alli/ Phillips/ De Roon
    Ibra/ Lukaku/ Giroud

    1. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      g2g

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        cheers

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Save this week for sure.

      Giroud to Costa is a move you can consider in a couple of week. You have 1 mil I think you can find it by downgrading Jones.

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        yeah that's certainly an option
        cheers
        may just give Costa a miss let's see what happens

    3. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Gtg - my guess is your TV is 106.8ish?

  20. Tibbs
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Off topic, still standing in cash LMS, down to 3. Who is most likely to win out of:

    Bournemouth (CRY)

    Swansea vs Saints (can pick either)

    Burnley (LEI)

    Boro (WBA)

    Bookies favour Cherries but quite fancy Burnley at Turf Moor myself, who would you go for?

    1. zon
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Burnley imo

  21. crazyasianac
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Kane, Lanzini, Williams
    or
    Defoe, coutinho, Walker

  22. zon
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Current lot:

    Grant Pickford
    Alonso Kosc Jones Nyom (Amat)
    Sanchez Alli Lallana Phillips (de Roon)
    Ibra Costa (Negredo)

    Best thing to do here:

    A) save
    B) Amat -> Baines/Coleman and stick with 442
    C) Negredo -> Carroll?

  23. Sonic Huth
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    WC or not?

    Heaton (Jaku)
    Alonso-Brunt-Coleman (Amat-Chambers)
    Phillips-Stanislas-Antonio-Erikson-Sanchez
    Ibra-Kane (Crouch)
    O.9 ITB

    1. zon
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      No, no, no.

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      You are kidding aren't you?

      1. Sonic Huth
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Just thought 3-5-2 is not the way to go right now,lol

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          You don't have to wc to change formation.

    3. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Who do you plan to get and sell if you Wildcard?

    4. 1zverGGademN
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm WCing to get almost your squad 😀

  24. Points Not Profit. Time to Abandon Obsession With Value
    Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Just on the matter of TV/SV (as above)

    For the past four seasons I've probably taken more hits than most on this site, and ended up with a higher SV than most in doing so...which is actually the only way to get a significantly higher SV than the game at large.

    The problem with doing that is that you simply end up buying back the same players that you sold previously for more money....so you're no better off. It's a fact.

    What matters is not what TV/SV you have but when you bought each player.

    For example...With my mad hits I have about 3.0 mill more than my rival. Which in practise means I have Lukaku now and he has Carroll...I won't be running off to the bookies to bet which one scores the most of those two.

    A high TV and SV mean nothing in this game.

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Having a high TV can also be a curse. It stops you from thinking. For instance I might just splash cash on Hazard because it's spare, when if I couldn't afford him I'd be looking around to see who else around is a bargain.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Aye. Exactly.

        The prices are based on what they did last season...not this season. What we want is next years 9.0 and 10.0 mids for a bargain price, not last season's...if that makes sense.

        Andy Carroll will do as a case in point again. A fit Andy Carroll will have a value way above 6.2 next season and yet we get drawn to the higher value players. Some strange psychology thing really.

      2. fedolefan
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, high TV makes your team template or at least you are chasing the template team because you can afford it. This is so right. I couldn't afford Sanchez and Hazard and so was forced to look elsewhere with Mane & Alli. Served me well.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yep. Good picks.

        2. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Chasing the template because you can afford it. Spot on.

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Completely agree

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        No point having a high TV if you end up paying 6.2 for Walker instead of 5.5....same for Sanchez, Ibra, Alli, Alonso...blah, blah, blah...

        1. fedolefan
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          One thing though, if you pay 6.2m for Walker, you'll happily drop him for Alonso, if you have too. Those who get him at 5.5m will look at other ways. Too much value invested in a player makes them "undroppable" too. Many must have held on to Costa these last few weeks because they got him in at 9.5 or whatever. Just way too many ways to play this game.

        2. Gothenburgsaints
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          This reasoning is strange as if you have the same players you will have the same TV, i.e. it is not about when you get players in terms of TV. SV is different, i.e. identical squads could have very different SVs. SV is only useful if you want to change your team (WC, blanks, injuries, DGWs). If you want to keep Walker, Sanchez, Ibra, Alonso the entire season, SVs for these players are irrelevant.

          On your first point of Carroll vs. Lukaku, I would take that bet for the rest of the season. Or more generally, I would expect a strong correlation over time between TV and points. Might still not be worth the hits of course.

    3. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      the obsession with transfer value this season has got way out of hand. Best policy is to ignore it I think for now - especially the second half of the season.

    4. GHB
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Completely agree with this. I very rarely make early transfers 2nd half of the season and worry about value. If I can't afford who I want I get someone else

      1. Sherry? Sherry.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        This is well put. I think the rapid price changes have distracted from the reality of it being a points game.

      2. GHB
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly right. No point in jumping on bandwagons to make 0.1 here and there, look at who you think you will get most points that week.

      3. The Mighty One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I have to develop my flexibility better: I do the exact opposite. Whoever I think has the best upcoming run is who I target, even if I take hits to replace some bench fodder. I don't bounce to the next best choice that I can afford. It sounds good but once I decide so-and-so is my next proper move (usually attackers of course) then I keep staring at my team until I find the route in there like the cucarachas.

    5. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      i'm supposed to have about 1.5m more TV than the top 1000.
      but seeing as they've got about 160 more points than me I don't think they are going to be too worried.

    6. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Just think of the potential pre-DGW WC team you could get with 4.0m+ extra - that's where I'm hoping the advantage comes anyway. Only time will tell.

      1. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        And where are you getting this extra £4m in TV from now until the WC?

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I already have it.

      2. Gothenburgsaints
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The problem here is that it is SV that matters most for WC teams and it is much harder to build extensive differences in SV as compared to TV. Other than that I agree with you.

    7. Pep says
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Seen a guy on here the last day. Has taken THIRTY THREE hits!!! Minus 132 so far. Ranked 57,000 with a TV of around 108m.

      4+ millions players. 4+ million are not going to come first.

      There's a lot of luck involved in winning this game. If you aren't going to win, you may aswell have fun trying.

      Play the game however you like, who cares. Tomorrow's a new day and no one will ever be remembered for playing fantasy football, expect maybe Villa Ronka (Pep bows his head)

      1. Ku Aing Sia Maneh
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        agree...
        Last two year I am playing and rarely take hits, I am ranked 70K always at the end of season.
        Currently I always take hits each week and ranked 3K.
        So I will keep hitting... hehehe

    8. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Team value / selling value means nothing *if* (and only if) there's real value to be found without needing to buy as many big hitters as possible.

      It happens to be the case this season; it's not always.

    9. Sir Edo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Dr. Toot Ake is right, a high TV means nothing in this game.
      If you go for the right players, TV/SV will mind its own business.. 😉

    10. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      What worries me about this is that it is no longer just the FFS crowd driving price rises. I spoke to a guy in the pub last week who you would probably call a 'casual', but who was still talking about how what really matters in the first of the season is building up squad value for later on.

      So what used to be a really niche behaviour has become mainstream - and the market has accellarated rapidly as a result. I suspect that FPL's own coverage, and daily updates on price rises and falls, is one of the drivers of this. But whatever the cause, it's having a negative effect and it's a very difficult mindset to break.

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        And the 'casual guy' teached the 2012/13 number 20 to play FPL..? Just great. 😉

    11. LoyalRoyal
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      TV can be important, but it certainly isn't a factor of how well your doing, just ask the guy top of our mini league.....ranked 9,626.....TV 99.7!!

      1. LoyalRoyal
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        *you're

    12. Shultan
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Yep i agree, i've has an extra 2 mill than my ML leaders for a while, which has meant i've had hazard for weeks whilst they've had alli.
      Its what you do with the money that counts!

    13. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Quite right O'Wakey.

      The reason for the obsession with TV is very simple: it is easy to achieve. A high OR is not so easy to achieve. So people can make themselves look clever (they think) by talking about their high TV. They thus make others who are maybe new to FPL feel they should be pursuing TV as well or will lose out if they don't.

      TV is a means to an end and it's not the most important means to that end by any means. Last season there was a guy on twitter who realised going into GW38 that he wasn't even going to make the top 100k. "I have 111m worth of players in my team", he tweeted. "WTF is going on?"

      1. RVP fc
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I think to an extent Selling value and Team value matter. Particularly early on in the season. However now I ignore it unless a price change would prevent me from making a transfer I want. For example I did Hazard to alli early because if I didnt the price changes would have meant I could no longer use my second transfer to get Coleman in for Amat. Making transfer just to get cash is ridiculous.

        1. Sir Edo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          This is the risk for TV hunters. So what if Alli gets injured in FA cup? Your TV will be higher but points will be less. In this case I think it's ok since Alli will probably be rested and Everton not playing at all.

      2. the Penman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Yes - the reason to accumulate value in the first half of the season is to spend it in the second half. Or at least to give you the *option* to use it.

    14. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I think TV is mainly a consequence of following bandwagons - be they good or bad ones to follow in the long run. The 0.2 plus gets made regardless. When someone starts racking up points at what looks a bargain price they just get snapped up without much thinking in a feeding frenzy. They key is knowing when to sell them.

    15. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      You can have 2m SV over me come WC time but I can still have 14 of the same players as you and just my 15th is 2m cheaper.
      Assuming I'm spending 2m less on your worst player e.g. a non-playing 4.5 mid against your 6.5m mid.
      So the difference in scores would be that 15th player - maybe 8-10 pts if I'm really unlucky.

    16. The Mighty One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Well said. Totally agree.

      Somewhere in New Zealand RuthNZ, and somewhere in Scandinavia Ville Ronka, both just doffed their hats to you.

      1. The Mighty One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        And I'm speaking as a person who just picked up Lallana and Stanislas on Sunday...while everyone is dropping Lallana this week so I've already lost money, but I don't care.

    17. Raul Seleccion
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      If you're getting points you're getting TV. Good TV comes from getting rid of players when they slump and jumping onto the right players when they hit purple patches. I don't take multiple hits for TV, I take them to get the players hitting form in as quick as possible. A few extra million does wonders 2nd half of the season- especially in defence where you can upgrade an Amat to an Alonso for example
      13 hits-108M- 319OR

    18. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Great post, I completely agree.

      I've been guilty of this myself and had a nightmare chasing the cash, already on a -4 and considering more.

      Was much more successful last season just playing within my budget and hardly taking any hits.

    19. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Prices follow points, not the other way round. Get good players with good fixtures to maximise your points potential and the points and prices will follow.

    20. John t penguin
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Am I reading this wrong
      If your point is having high tv isn't a big deal I am not seeing how you having Lukaku over Carroll proves that. Surely everyone would take Lukaku over Carroll . Except those of course who somehow think Lukaku has a personal agenda against them

    21. Numb
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Disagree. When was the last time you saw someone on here ask "Just wondering how many points everyone has?"?

      I rest my case.

  25. YoungPretender
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Have to make a change as I have 2 FT's, but don't feel like there's anything really pressing.

    Grant
    Rose Baines Brunt
    Sanchez(C) Alli Coutinho Stanislas
    Kane Giroud Lukaku

    Randolph Phillips Smith Chambers

    Thinking of getting rid of Smith, but who for?

    A) Yoshida
    B) Funes Mori
    C) Jones
    D) Other suggestions?

  26. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Foster Jaku
    Alonso Brunt Baines Friend Amat
    Sanchez Hazar Alli Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Lukaku Barnes

    Do Hazard and Barnes to Costa and Carroll for a -4 hit or hold and roll, and do them next week for free?

  27. Morgs
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Best midfielder under 9.1? Already have 3 spurs. Other four:

    Sanchez, Alli, Phillips, Davies

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Get one that hold you value in that position...Antonio maybe...and plan for Mane when he returns from AFCON.

    2. Sonic Huth
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Antonio for me too

    3. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      lanzini/

    4. Balance
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I would consider Firmino / Coutinho

  28. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you rather bring in for Holebas:

    A) Baines
    B) Coleman

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Coin flip, but A

    2. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      b

    3. Sonic Huth
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      B, Look at the stats in recent games

    4. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Either one. Baines does a lot of kak little sideways and backwards completed passes which help him on his journey towards baps whilst Coleman monsters him attacking wise...but Baines has the pens and more generally higher quality of crosses.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks all. Can anyone recommend any sites that provide heatmap/average position info?

        1. Baz
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          fantasy football scout

    5. ThisTimeNxtYrRodney
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Just look at the stats. Coleman much better but penalties a temptation for baines. I'm going Coleman!!!!

  29. Sonic Huth
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Lukaku owners,
    How much do you guys trust him?

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      As far as I can throw him.

      He's the best pick in the game for banter and cursing...but that's as far as it goes.

      1. Sonic Huth
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        So we share the same opinion

  30. TaiwanHC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    I still can't make up my mind of who to play between Phillips and Rondon.

    Has anyone reached consensus in this matter?

    1. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Phillips- rondon gets isolated at times

    2. Sonic Huth
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I would play Phillips, Much better form, and Rondon has not been consistent enough

    3. Balance
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Phillips, on set pieces (WBA scores alot from set pieces), higher goal involvement ratio than Rondon and more consistent

    4. Debauchy
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Phillips
      But in a 1 off game Rondon could do damage