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Every Fantasy manager must make predictions as to what will happen in each fixture when setting up their team for that gameweek.

Often it’s a subconscious process – ‘City at home to Burnley, I predict plenty of goals, captain Aguero’.  Or sometimes, we’ll look at bookies’ data for Anytime Goalscorer and Clean Sheet odds, and use their analysts’ predictions to guide our selections.

The power of the collective wisdom of football fans is not often considered, and this season I am planning to run a series of articles using aggregated prediction statistics from around 50,000 football fans on Superbru to see if we can glean anything from their collective knowledge.

By way of introduction, I am entering my 11th season on FPL, starting out as an amateur in 2007, and now with three finishes in the top 2,500 (interspersed with a few frustrating seasons, like many people).  I’m yet to crack the Top 1000, with a career high of 1,060, but maybe, just maybe, this is my year.  I take Fantasy Premier League fairly seriously, competing predominantly against a bunch of mates to see who pays for the end of season curry.  I like using stats and data to inform my decisions, taking some of the gut feel out of it, and I find that also helps mitigate the frustration when I make a bad decision.

Every week, I will make my predictions on Superbru’s Premier League Predictor game, considering each fixture carefully and then locking them in before I look at my starting lineup and captaincy decisions.  I will also look at the community statistics on Superbru, and often the collective wisdom of the crowd might adjust my thinking one way or another.

The Premier League Predictor game on Superbru records predictions by all those playing, and we can assess the average predicted goals for each team and factor that into our fantasy thinking.

Here is the early data for Round 1, with nearly 10,000 predictions made for each match so far.

It suggests that Manchester City away at Brighton is the best for goals, ahead of Chelsea at home to Burnley, whilst the Champions are most likely to record a clean sheet, according to the collective wisdom of 10,000 fans.

This looks like good news for those backing one of Manchester City trio Kevin De Bruyne, Gabriel Jesus or Sergio Aguero with the armband. In addition, those endorsing Chelsea wingback Marcos Alonso will also be pleased to have the crowd on their side.

The data also says that West Brom v Bournemouth could feasibly be 0-0, and could be a good place to look for kindly priced defenders, with Cherries pair Charlie Daniels and Nathan Ake among the standout selections for this tie.

I’ll update this Gameweek 1 data later this week once more people have made their predictions closer to kick off, and the data becomes slightly more robust as any outlier picks are drowned out by the crowd.

As part of the experiment this season, it would be great to add your predictions into the mix, and the more knowledgeable people that join, the more useful the crowd data will become.

It’s free to play, I’ve set up a FFScout pool that you can join using this link, and you can also win up to £20,000 each week depending on the number of exact scores you can predict.

Please give it a go and let me know if you have any feedback.

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  1. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Thanks for posting. Sounds like 'the crowd' backs our assertion on last night's Scoutcast that City will hammer Brighton.

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Who posted this article Jonty?

      1. sonova
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Hutch_James

    2. Lanzini girls just want to …
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Nar Brighton are gonna park the bus, defend with their lives, boosted on a high of it being their first match in the prem. It's gonna be a boring match where city squeeze out a 1-0 victory. Probably Jesus goal, KDB assist

  2. AJ24
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Any thoughts, feel slightly nervous not holding Kane, but:

    Foster, Elliot
    Ake, Bailly, Stephens, Lejuene, Long
    KDB, Alli, Willian, JWP, T Carroll
    Lukaku, Jesus, Firmino

    1. Kippers
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I'm seriously considering going without lukaku rathet than kane.

      1. Lanzini girls just want to …
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        You're mad

    2. DJ1000
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I am going without Kane for 1st 2 matches. Not sure he will do well at Wembley and Chelsea 1st match. May play my wildcard in gw 3 to get him in against Burnley if he is showing form.

    3. Lanzini girls just want to …
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Having Jesus and Firmino makes up for not having Kane.

      I'd get rid of Willian or JWP. I think Chelsea haven't had a perfect summer and will have a slow start to the season. Look to promoted teams/ cheaper star players. Ritchie after GW1 looks destined to get points under a well managed Benitez

  3. Sir Edo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Who will score more points during season? Lukaku or Jesus?

    1. AJ24
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      If both stay fit, I believe Lukaku

      1. JSS138
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Who will be better for a 1st week Captain? Jesus or Lukaku?

    2. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Kane / Jesus / Gabbiadini or Firmino?

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Gabby at the moment. Firmino not bad at all though..

        1. Smoky Johnson
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          foster
          danilo francis yoshida
          kdb mané zaha ritchie
          gabbi kane jesus

          elliot carroll mee rosenior

          Got 1.0 itb - suggestions?

          1. Sir Edo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            Have not seen Danilo playing but based on the community, he is attacking!
            Don't like to take a hit when Mendy is back.
            Foster and Elliott do not rotate very good according to fixture ticker.
            Looks good in many aspects! 😉

            1. Smoky Johnson
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 5 months ago

              best rotating keepers?

              1. Sir Edo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 5 months ago

                Currently Forster/Elliot but Foster/Heaton looks just great! In Fixtute Ticker, you can sort on rotation, if you are logged in as a member. So useful!

                1. Smoky Johnson
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 5 months ago

                  gott mos!

    3. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Lukaku plays for a worse team than Jesus. United scored 30 goals fewer last season. Jesus has the best PP90 in the game. He is cheaper. Peps favorite player. He might also be on pens. The fact that almost half have got Lukaku is great for Jesus owners (dom pålästa 🙂

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Yes, it will be a very interresting start of the season with ownership so different. And your top three?

        1. Smoky Johnson
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Further up - do let me know.

      2. ste_the_legend
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        All correct but United's relative lack of goals didn't stop Zlatan from being one of the top forwards last season. Lukaku is more or less a direct replacement.

        I'm not sure Jesus will be as explosive now teams have had the summer to suss him out and he is clearly injury prone

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Lukaku, by about 20%, subject to injury.

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        You are right, a good part with Lukaku is always staing fit! If taking penalties it might be hard for Jesus to compete..

  4. 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Very cool article, nice one.

    1. Hutch_James
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Thank you, appreciate the feedback. Hopefully people will find it useful.

      We've got 20,000 predictions in for each match in GW1 now which is increasing all the time, and I'll update the stats with a more in-depth GW1 preview for the end of the week.

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Great stuff!

        Thought I was crazy looking at captaining Alonso, well between him and KDB, but you know what, he's locked in and no one can provide me any other reason as to why not lol 😆

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/16091487

  5. Cheshire Duck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    I see a lot of Foster/Elliott pair in all the "rate my team" posts... Is this just a budget option ? I'm still concerned about the Toons looking for a new GK ...

    opinions about Foster/Begovic or Foster/Fabianski ?

    1. ZLNR
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah it's just for an 8.5m pair where both keepers should play. Elliot may lose the spot though

    2. Pep says
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Gomes Begovic is a nice 9m pairing I feel

      wba WAT BHA sot BHA swa LEI/wba

    3. DJ1000
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Begovic not completely nailed! Boruc may have a say in that

    4. The Chump
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      On Foster/Fabianski now and its more secure imo. I don't really like the idea of using transfers on goalkeepers. Plus Swansea and West Brom rotate well over the first half of the season at least.

    5. Fishface
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Foster/fabianski is my pick! A good combo and works have me and away for a lot of the season

  6. ZLNR
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Foster
    Mawson-Yoshida-Daniels
    Willian-De Bruyne-Coutinho-Milivojevic
    Firmino-Kane-Lukaku

    Substitutes
    Elliot-Mee-T.Carroll-Hünemeier

    Morning all any comments on this draft? Inside news on CoutOUTho?

    I'm also still tempted by
    1) Mawson/KDB/Kane-->
    2)Alonso/Alli/Jesus+0.5m

    1. londonmayor
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Is Willian starting for sure?

  7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    By way of contrast, but also corroboration, if not in the way you might expect, here are my ticker numbers for GW1:

    ARS : LEI 512
    BOU : wba -182
    BRI : MCI -277
    BUR : che -804
    CHE : BUR 804
    CPL : HUD 48
    EVE : STK 460
    HUD : cpl -48
    LEI : ars -512
    LIV : wat 328
    MCY : bri 277
    MUN : WHM 260
    NEW : TOT -322
    SOT : SWA 218
    STK : eve -460
    SWA : sou -218
    TOT : new 322
    WAT : LIV -328
    WBA : BOU 182
    WHM : mun -260

    So BHA vs MCY might not be exactly what we might expect. 🙂

    1. Kippers
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Explain what this means please mate.

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Not sure myself tbh but I think I've got it. The higher the number the greater the chance of a win e.g.

        ARS : LEI 512

        Means Arsenal are favoured to beat or score against Leicester. It bears out too if you look at Leicester:

        LEI : ars -512

        Meaning Leicester are favoured to lose against Arsenal.

        Really no idea though 😆

    2. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      If Brighton can play a Championship version of Man City then I'd agree

      Trouble is Man City are a little bit better than the likes of Burton Albion.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Maybe. We will see.

    3. Jaws
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Without data from Championship team playing with the big boys in the PL? Sorry, I am not buying this.

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Indeed....with shipping three against Athletico I'd say it'd be a huge surprise if City didn't do well.

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        We have past Seasons to go by, if you want that.

        Anyway, I am not selling.

  8. Pompel
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Excellent ! Will you produce this article every GW?

    1. Hutch_James
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks Pompel. Yes, that's the plan if we think it's adding value.

      1. Pompel
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Will be looking forward to it 🙂

  9. CL4PTRAP
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Great Article. Joined the league. This data should be insightful with bigger numbers. "Wisdom of the Crowd". Love It.

  10. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Is it possible to access last seasons weekly predictions on SuperBru and compare to actual results. How good a correlation is it?

    1. CL4PTRAP
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Would be interesting point. I believe it might be close. Perhaps even more accurate as the season progresses. Just my opinion tho.

  11. Hutch_James
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Yes, we have about 11m predictions from last season that we can assess. I'll see what I can do with the data, might be a little pushed for time before GW1.

    We can actually go back over the last 5-6 seasons too...

    1. The Point About It Is
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      My concern over crowd stats are that they are scewed by the supporters of so called bog teams.
      For example, lots of Man utd supports will vote and blindly predict their results as being favourable even though there is no evidence that they are on a good run.

  12. Klopp\'s Angels
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Awesome article! Good to see SuperBru getting a mention! I live on that site. Keeps me busy while I await the start of the EPL 😀

    1. Hutch_James
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Great to hear JJordaan!

  13. JBagley
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Great article! Is there a way to see these community statistics ourselves on Superbru?

    1. Hutch_James
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, once you've made and locked your picks, you can see Community Stats on the Play page, and Expected Goals is in there.

      There's a new page under construction for each match, which will have live scores, live pool results, plus more community stats and historical results. Should be there by Friday.

  14. Nyom Legend
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Alli/Aguero + 1.5ITB or KdB/Kane? Other premiums are Lukaku and Salah.

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B I think. KDB more nailed than Aguero

    2. JBagley
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Defo KdB/Kane.

      Just worried about Aguero game time.

    3. londonmayor
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B

  15. Pigsinblankets
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Seen Fraser in a lot of teams, what's the hype? Redmond worth the extra 1.0m?

  16. asgerlange
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    One last RMT to rule them all!

    Foster
    Yoshida-B.Davies-Monreal
    Zaha-Fabregas-De Bruyne-Ince
    Kane-Lukaku-Firmino

    Elliot-Suttner-Long-Carroll

  17. tmc91
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    A) Jesus - Mee - Matic (+0.5)

    B) Firmino - Bailly - Ince

    I do not have any City coverage which worries me, or United defence,

    1. L S P
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      if you go A, go with Atsu over Matic - more potential. Or spend the .5 and get one of the number of good looking 5.5 MID options.

      Besides Matic is not "United defense" so either work out DDG/Bailly or go without.

      FWIW - I'd choose A

  18. sonova
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Great post, Ive played Superbru for a few years now, 6 out of 10 being my best.

    Where did you find the stats for total goals like shown? Ive searched everywhere. Well not everywhere,clearly, or id have found it.

  19. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Aguero or Jesus is killing me this summer - What's the answer?

    1. croseberry2
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      You could take Lukaku till the dust settles.

  20. prgmtctchr
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Join the Fewest Points Wins league: 197614-652726

    Use all £100m from Week 1, no transfers or chips allowed after the season begins. Win by scoring the fewest total points by the end of the season (i.e., last place team who follows the aforementioned rules wins). There was a league for this the past few years but it hasn't renewed as of this posting.

    All are welcome to join and spread the word!

  21. rokonto
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Help please:
    A. De bruyne and Firminho
    or
    B. Pedro and Jesus
    Thanks

    1. croseberry2
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A

  22. croseberry2
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    A) Kane - Lukaku - J Rod
    B) Kane - Jesus - Defoe

    B is slightly more expensive but not concerned.

    1. DT’s HighFlyingBirds
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B) Looks better. Think WBA going to struggle for goals this season

  23. Tzaitsev
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Elliot - DDG
    Kolasinac - Cédric Soares - Dawson - Mee - Naughton
    KDB - Alli - Pogba - Caroll - JWP
    Lacazette - Lukaku - JR

    Would like to change Soares to Bertrand but missing 0.5.
    Also thinking about Gabbiadini or JR

    Any ideas?

    1. DT’s HighFlyingBirds
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Pogba to Willian or Zaha would free up money for Bertrand. Would go for Gabbiadini over JR

  24. Jukoliste
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Will Moreno start at saturday? 4.5 would be tempting..

  25. JSS138
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Jesus or Lukaku is your 1st week Captain? Can't decide!

  26. DT’s HighFlyingBirds
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Which one?

    A) Lukaku, Jesus, Firmino

    B) Kane, Jesus, Gabbiadini

    Midfield includes: KDB, Willian, Zaha, Richie (Carroll)

    Good luck to everyone!

  27. DT’s HighFlyingBirds
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    A or B.....

    A) Lukaku, Jesus, Firmino

    B) Kane, Jesus, Gabbiadini

    Gone with (A) but leaves no Spurs cover. Mids: KDB, Willian, Salah, Richie (Carroll). Not too sure how Firmino will play without his bud, Coutinho?

    Almost tempted to hit, 'Auto-Select' for GW1!!!

  28. Mainswitch
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Is there any reason to think Sane wont start tommorow? Will both Jesus and Kun also start.? Sane had a good second half of the season in starting 13 of thier last 14 games.