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17 October 2010 1264 comments
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Two entertaining games saw seven goals scored, El Capitan for many Carlos Tevez striking a brace and Liverpool, in spite of the fillip of a completed takeover, continuing their terrible start to the season.

For many this weekends subplot was the captaincy debate – Tevez vs Nani. Overall Tevez (just) edged it with 12 points to Nani’s 10. If you didn’t captain either of them – awkward.

Bizarrely every one of the Sunday Knee Jerks’ that i’ve written have involved a Liverpool angle. For that reason, and given they still appear to be well and truely skewed on the pitch at the moment, I won’t harp on about how investment in Liverpool players at the moment seems nothing more than a complete folly. If the slipery slope were a theme park ride, Liverpool would be the spoilt kid pestering their parents to spend all day on it. Theories on how a change in owner would lead to a change in fortune on the pitch proved deluded. Liverpool were toothless and look a shadow of the team which came seventh last season – damning indeed. For every negative there is a possitive however, and from a Fantasy Football perspective this came in the form of the Toffees.

The consensus this season is that whilst the league table position would suggest Everton are struggling, performances have indicated otherwise. It was difficult to determine whether they were actually good today or whether Liverpool were just really really bad. Nevertheless there were bright sparks in the sign of Seamus Coleman who continued his fine recent form with an assist for the opening goal. Given Everton’s recent run of clean sheets, indication from manager David Moyes that Coleman has the right hand side of midfield as his own, his price (4.4 million on FPL) and the fact he’s out of position, the young Irishman is looking like a must for our Fantasy Football teams. Before we all run off to put him in our team however it is worth noting that Everton have a tricky away game at Tottenham in the offing but follow this with two home games and an away game to his former club Blackpool. Expect his price to rise in the near future.

The later kick off saw title contenders Manchester City travel to Bloomfield Road to take on Blackpool in only the Tangerines third home game since their return to the top flight. The key information to take from the Manchester City game was the reshuffle of the pack by City boss Roberto Mancini. Notable absences came in the form of  the Toure brothers who were no where to be seen either in the starting line-up nor on the bench. Whilst Yaya’s possible omission was noted in our Injuries and Ban’s section and didn’t come as a huge suprise, the absence of his brother was something of a shock. Yaya’s place was taken by the enigmatic Emmanual Adebayor who to be honest was pretty rubbish. At first the consensus was that the revertion to a 4-4-2 was exactly the right move for Manchester City. Certainly if they were to smash some of the lower level teams a more attacking mentality would need to be adopted rather than the continued three defensive minded central midfielders. How wrong that thought process was.

City continually laboured throughout the opening 70 odd minutes of the game with that formation, and it wasn’t until David Silva was brought on to replace the aforementioned Adebayor and the formation was tweaked that things turned round for the better for the Citizens.  Silva’s introduction saw an assist for Carlos Tevez’s opening (dubious) first goal and the Spaniard topped it off his influential cameo with an exquisite finish which turned out to be the winning goal. Unfortunately for Fantasy Football enthusiasts his place in the starting line up is far from guaranteed, however one mans place who is certain is Carlos Tevez and with 7 goals in 8 this season and 28 goals in his last 30 games for Man City its difficult to not try to find a way to get him into your team.

Apologies for the use of Ian Evat’s name in the title, bar the “foul”/tackle on him that led to Tevez’s second goal he really did nothing of note – i’m just a sucker for a pun.

  1. In Bale We Trust
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Wait, so is there any logical reason at all as to why Kolo didn't play today? Irritating as now I'm left with 10 playing.

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Apparently Jason Manford sat on him... or something like that

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      1. Just One More Thing
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        15 years, 5 months ago

        Congratulations on your H2H win SD - if only I had gone with my Friday evening convictions...

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2010/10/15/the-scout-picks-gameweek-eight/comment-page-5/#comment-962314

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          Cheers man, i really needed it! At risk of getting cut adrift at the bottom of the league! Assuming Samba doesn't get a hatrick of OGs and then a red i should be ok

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    2. BobB
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      If leaving him out was tactical, then his owners should be reassured - Mancini won't repeat it in a hurry after conceding two goals for the first time this season (and to Blackpool!)

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      1. I Hart Van Der Vaart
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        15 years, 5 months ago

        "And to Blackpool!"

        Explain.

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      2. Morrissey1986
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        15 years, 5 months ago

        Give Blackpool credit they are so slouches silly silly statement.

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        1. BobB
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          Well no, they have surprised one or two, but they didn't trouble the scorers against Arsenal or Chelsea - so City will be disappointed to concede two.

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    3. Morrissey1986
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      Kolo would of scored close to 0 anyway not worth the worry.

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  2. Abstruse
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    Anyone else find it ironic that the week that kingKong makes transfers he falls off the top of the leaderboard?

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    1. Morrissey1986
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      His 2 changes wouldn't of changed much this week he did 2 defenders changes for free.

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    2. The Bandit
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      Not exactly inspired transfers were they? He's no f*ckin' wheeler dealer.

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      1. Abstruse
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        Where's 'Arry when you need 'im? 😉

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        1. SL8
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          notice he has Drogba Captain so perhaps if Tevez is his emergency Captain he may still go top?

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          1. Abstruse
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            Oh, Jesus Christ ğŸ˜

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  3. NeatBourbon
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    phil jones out, seamie coleman in what ye think

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      Not bad but I'd sooner cull Shawcross than Jones

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  4. thehodge
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    This is the oly way i can fit fabs in my team:
    2.2m in the bank
    This week:
    Cleverley to Adam
    Gw 10:
    Malouda to Fabs
    Dempsey to N'Zogbia (4 point hit)
    What do people think?

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  5. Drip Doctor
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Wonder if some Drogba owners will get rid of him for Tevez because of the red flag.

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    1. hillbillypete
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      he has a cold

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        15 years, 5 months ago

        Not all of the 43.5% of people that own him will know that.

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    2. Morrissey1986
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      Hope so Wolves next but they people probably won't be in top 4k I need to reach. Going to be hard from here.

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    3. Oliver Reed
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      both are must have's this season...

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    4. Kings of Lyon ★
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      i did on friday 😉 now rooney to drogs 🙂

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Same here, i have enough money in the bank to make the swap but wondering if Drogba will fall another 0.1.

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        1. Dave Boozle
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          Should do.

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  6. Kings of Lyon ★
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    arteta and boateng picking up injuries means i need to rely on a weak bench next week ğŸ™

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    1. thehodge
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      Boateng only came off because he's just back from injury.

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    2. Oliver Reed
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      whats wrong with arteta,..?

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      1. Voronin
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        Proper shit hair.

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
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        15 years, 5 months ago

        came off early cause pickd up an injury.

        andy gray said boateng pulled up after a challenge... hmmm

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  7. ArcticJunkie
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    I had 7 players for GW8 and somehow managed 46 points to beat my rival with Samba and Elmohamady still to play. Anyone else in the same boat?

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  8. haggee
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    right heres the grand plan, i have 2 free transfers this week so over the next 2 weeks the following changes

    hahnemann > al habsi
    konchesky > coleman
    shawX > simpson
    bale > cleverley
    nasri > fab

    that will give me a front 6 of

    fab malouda arteta
    drog tev berbs

    in essence all the changes are to keep my best players whilst still getting fab in. worth it?

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    1. Just One More Thing
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      A slight spanner in the works for that grans scheme - will Simpson and Cleverley get sufficient gametime in the short-term to warrant those changes?

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      1. Just One More Thing
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        *grand

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  9. united1192
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    Anybody here watch The Sunday Supplement?

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    1. jamsiep
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      Absolutely not.

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      1. united1192
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        Didn't think anyone disliked it!

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    2. A.T
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      yeah if only to remind myself why i never buy newspapers

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  10. hillbillypete
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    anyone gettin nzogbia?

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    1. Morrissey1986
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      Nope already have him 🙂

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    2. jamsiep
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      Dunno really... Tempted to switch Davies to one of Adam/N'Zogbia, but Fulham do have some decent fixtures coming up, and there's no such thing as a free transfer...

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    3. ArcticJunkie
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      Definitely thinking about it

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      1. hillbillypete
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        thinkin of gettin rid of etherington for him

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          It's always a good time to get rid of Etherington...

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          1. thehodge
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            15 years, 5 months ago

            Thinking Dempsey to N'zogbia after this week but only to generate funds for fabs. Aka The Fabs Fund! 😀

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      2. Just One More Thing
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        N'Zogbia has a decent fixture v Bolton next week but away at Fulham and Blackburn reduces his appeal somewhat; but then again I didn't see 15 points coming from him away at Newcastle.

        After watching Blackpool today I an angling towards Adam. Fair play, Blackpool don't give a sh*t for anybody and don't defend deep/play safe.

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        1. hillbillypete
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          very true

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  11. Locarno
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Hmmm... my rival, Kieran, has Robinson and Jones left. I have Mignolet, Elmo and Jones. He has 46 pts, I have 49. I'm thinking a Blackburn clean sheet will give the tie to him by one point. ğŸ™

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    1. Locarno
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      *I've totally bollocksed that up, haven't I? Please ignore. Or continue ignoring.

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      1. dogtanion
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        I think you have..Like unless Robinson bangs one in the top corner from a kick out, you should sail through

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        1. Locarno
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          Hmmm... Robinson clean sheet with a few saves, and he moves to 53. Jones cancels each other out, so I need four from Mignolet/Elmo to equal that, and I'll pip him on ranking.

          One yellow card, though, and I'm screwed.

          But I reckon it'll be 1-1, with an Elmo assist.

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      2. DeathAngel
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        15 years, 5 months ago

        A save point for Robinson and a yellow for Elmo could see him through - it's still delicately poised.

        Blackburn 1 - 0 Sunderland

        Could lead to:

        YOU - Elmo (1) Jones (6) Mignolet (2) Lead (3) = 12

        RIVAL - Robinson (7) Jones (6) = 13

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        1. jamsiep
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          15 years, 5 months ago

          Who does Lead play for?

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          1. jamsiep
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            15 years, 5 months ago

            Sorry, I'm being unbelievably retarded... I thought Lead was a nickname/abbreviation for some player...

            Does Grant Leadbitter still play for Sunderland?!

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            1. Gargamel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              :mrgreen:

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            2. Locarno
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              15 years, 5 months ago

              Nice try...

              Just noticed that he took a four-point hit. Who wants to take on a very creaky team in round two?

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              1. DeathAngel
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                15 years, 5 months ago

                What about Blackburn 4 - 0 Sunderland and Mignolet gets sent off in the 5th minute? 😉

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          2. DeathAngel
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            'Lead' is the 3 point lead that he currently holds over his rival going into the Blackburn game.

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  12. DeathAngel
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Did RBJ go for Evra in the end? I remember last Friday he was saying how Evra was the new Cole, and would be bombing up and down the left hand-side, operating virtually as a winger, and his chalkboards looked amazing.

    Shame about the -1 points though!

    *Yeah, long term Patrice could be good, but United are looking leaky this season.

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      Think he might have. And he captained Rooney... you probably heard his reaction to the team announcements from where you live.

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    2. Marknlard
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      If he did then his head will have exploded and you won't be seeing him on here for a while.

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      1. The Bandit
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        Nobody in their right mind would captain Rooney! Next thing you'll be saying someone took Drog out for a 4pt hit to do it!! Haha, as if.....
        😳

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          15 years, 5 months ago

          Well, you can't get em right every week WR 🙂

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          1. The Bandit
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            15 years, 5 months ago

            Ha, I may have to dine out on last weeks VdV captaincy for the rest of the season! 😉

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        2. jamlove
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          the stupid bugger I got in the cup captained him, ha ha, and he took a four point hit on him too, ha ha ha

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  13. DeathAngel
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Is there anyone else that just can't seem to have a good week whatever happens?

    I had a great score for week one, but since then keep languishing in the 40's and 50's each time, and mini-league rivals are starting to catch up. I haven't wild carded yet, do I need to?

    Foster, Hahnemann

    Bosingwa, Samba, Steinsson, Konchesky, Jose Enrique

    Nani, Malouda, Gerrard, Albrighton, Bale

    Carroll, Drogba, Elmander

    2.8M in the bank.

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    1. dogtanion
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      Definitely not

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    2. Locarno
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      No!

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      1. DeathAngel
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        I was thinking of using my 2.8M to gradually do:

        Gerrard -> Fabregas

        Samba - > Kolarov

        Bale -> Silva/VDV

        I'm worried about Tevez though, he seems to be involved in virtually all their goals, so I could downgrade Drogba to get him, or sell Malouda and upgrade Carroll.

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  14. Gaz Downright
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Ian Evatt-able! brilliant

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    1. Darth Wenger
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      +1

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  15. Marknlard
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    The MOTD2 opening sequence is a CGI nightmare.

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    1. For Fuchs Sake
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      It's awful!!

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  16. Gaz Downright
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    took a friday night 4 pts hit to get in Tevez so i could bench konchesky. glad? yes.. and jerome is history

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  17. jamsiep
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    In some respects I actually hope that Malouda plays against Wolves, despite getting rid of him. If he doesn't play then it may force some mini league rivals to get rid of him, probably for Fabregas.

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    1. Oliver Reed
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      jamsiep what did you think of x factor last nigth. Matt Cardle still has it in the bag imo...

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Hopefully... He's easily the best. Treyc and Rebecca are good singers, just f*cking dull.. The rest are pretty crap, and Aidan is a big time bottler.

        One Direction will probably end up winning it though! Sigh...

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        1. Oliver Reed
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          it would annoy me to buggery if they won it. There co*ky little sh*ts and have no stage presence..

          im not sure whats going on with cher's mouth, she looks like elvis..

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      2. Locarno
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        15 years, 5 months ago

        X Factor discussion - time to go.

        I'm presuming my long-held wish that Al Qaeda will target the X Factor studios before moving on to Strictly hasn't happened yet?

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Maybe we should just do it Locarno.

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      Why wouldn't he play? CL on Tuesday isn't too bad then he has a week between the Wolves and Blackburn games

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      1. jamsiep
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        Well the CL game is in Moscow, which is quite a long trip... And he's played a lot of football recently. Matches (for Chelsea and France) on the 9th, 12th, 16th, 19th and then the Wolves game on the 23rd.. That's 5 games in 14 days....

        Big rotation risk IMO. Especially with Kalou apparently returning to fitness.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
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          Yeah fair point. If Drogba is back then i suppose it's possible, hopefully we know on Friday afternoon either way

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        2. dogtanion
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          Would he not be rested for the CL game seen as you're basically qualified already?

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          1. jamsiep
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            I doubt it... Spartak are on 6 points too, and if we lose we run the risk of finishing second in the group.. Besides, with Drogba not travelling we don't really have enough options to rest Malouda..

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  18. Attila the Bum
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    • 15 Years
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    Nice weekend for betting (up around €80ish), another poor FPL performance though. Next week looks a little tough to predict too - I just hope Drogba goes absolutely mental and scores 4 or 5 against Wolves, and that Tevez puts his money where his gurning mouth is and actually retires.

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      At least you tasted the air in the top 1000, nice while it lasted I'm sure! 🙂

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        It was rarefied old boy. In the words of Arnie and The Claw from Inspector Gadget - "I'll be back"

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  19. Just One More Thing
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Konchesky's effort to block/stop that Coleman cross sums up everything about Liverpool at the moment.

    Having Konchesky and Gerrard in my team is a bloody pain the neck...

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  20. Waldaz
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Erm, good strikers at 6m for CL this week? 0.3 short for Huntelaar...

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  21. Zidane
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    i did my first early transfer of the season and its a high risk 4 pointer lol,i got fabs and simpson in for bale and oshea ,im sweating just typing it.By doing it early i was able to keep malouda,nani,drogs,cole and berba.If it pays off i will be really happy with my team

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  22. Oliver Reed
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    15 years, 5 months ago

    Baines or coleman long term..?

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    1. Tim
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      Neither for me.

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      Coleman will be a massive rotation risk when Pienaar is back. Baines is too pricey for me. The only Everton defender id get is Jagielka.

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      1. Dave Boozle
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        It's a shame Baines is so pricey as he will get loads and loads of assists, and IMO will finish 2nd behind cole in def points scores.

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  23. Tim
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    When did Bale get awarded his assist??

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    1. ArcticJunkie
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      15 years, 5 months ago

      Just after the Blackpool/Man city had finished i think.

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    2. Just One More Thing
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      This afternoon - got me over 50 for this week.

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    3. Shipstontrev
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      some time this afternoon - don't know why, but I'll take it

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    4. Qubit
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      only just noticed myself. Dont agree with it (although in line with earlier fpl decisions this season)

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  24. SuperDorrans
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    Well unless Phil Jones turns into superman and actually scores a goal tomorrow, I'm out the cup.

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    1. Tim
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      Ive had a shite week too. Again...

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      1. SuperDorrans
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        I'm so, so, so lucky Drogba didn't play.

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        1. Tim
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          Oh yer... Lucky bugger..

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Captaining Torres you really don't deserve to go through!! But i still hope Jonesy gets a goal for you 🙂

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      1. SuperDorrans
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        Haha I know. Don't know what I was thinking..

        Phil Jones to save my gameweek, what a story! 😀

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      nice. Citeh?

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      1. Shakey
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        Has to be Real. Mourinho wants a striker and they could probably use Benzema as bait.

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    2. jamsiep
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      The most beaut.

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      1. Tim
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        Arsenal... Sign him up!!

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Straight swap with Bendtner 😀

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          1. Shakey
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            Steady on.

            Can't we just buy his ankle ligaments and give them to RVP?

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Well, that's a small improvement ... 🙂

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            2. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Another good option. But imagine Rooney, Van Persie and Walcott/Nasri/Chamakh as an interchanging front 3 🙂

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    3. Attila the Bum
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      • 15 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      Dun dun DAAAAAH!
      Barca cannot afford him, simple as. Real might, Man City might that's about the sum of his options.

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      1. Shakey
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        I'm sure Inter will have a bid. They probably won't get him, but they'll certainly have a bid.

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          True - Rafa with Rooney though uuurgh!

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      2. dogtanion
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        I'd say his value has significantly dropped seen as he's played like a donkey since March...Can't see them getting more than 25 mil..Will be kinda weird without him..He should've played for Ireland, this whole mess wouldn't have happened in the first place

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    4. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      Good. That will teach Ferguson to support his players when they make a mistake or are in the media spotlight for the wrong reasons. Look at Cole & Terry, Ancelotti said its non of his business, his concern is football.

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    5. Just One More Thing
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      Not like you to revel in United (alleged) misfortune MF??

      Well he incurred Fergie's wrath by effectively calling him a liar about his injury, not that I would expect Rooney to understand Fergie's subtlety of papering over Rooney's questionable mental state.

      Not many United players have survived once they cross Fergie - Stam, Van Nistelrooy, Keane etc. Bloody shame!

      But we'll see in January 🙂

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        No team better than Utd would want him on current form, he'll stay. He will cheer up when his form returns.

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      2. Shakey
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        I'm not revelling, I'm actually bloody shocked. When I saw it, I had to read it back a couple of times to confirm it didn't say "Rooney declares he has no intention...".

        I've always been sure Rooney would stay at United until they have to put him down, so it's new territory for me. I'm still working out what exactly I want to happen.

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          I'm most certainly revelling. No doubt there.

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        2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          The story has been around all day MF, is this the first you have heard of it?

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          1. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Everyone knew about the apparent rift, but not about him actively wanting to leave and refusing to sign a new contract.

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              1. jamsiep
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                Yeah I read that, and even linked it last night:

                http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2010/10/16/the-knee-jerk-dirty-laundry/comment-page-9/#comment-967552

                Wouldn't ever trust the Mirror though.. Now it's coming from the Guardian it seems much more official.

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          2. Shakey
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, but in the Mirror. They've fabricated so many Rooney to real stories I the past year, I hardly took notice.

            Seems like they got this one bang on though.

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Yeah fair play

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            2. AP
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Utd would miss Rooney far less than the goons will miss Fabs MF. IF it turns out to be true, it would have less effect on the team than Ronaldo's departure.

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              1. Shakey
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                Er, no. Ronaldo is extremely greedy, so other players were able to take centre stage without him (Rooney).

                Berbatov isn't in the same class to step up the way Rooney has.

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                1. AP
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 5 months ago

                  Er, yes. We had no direct replacement for Ronaldo, we have strikers coming out of our ears. Utd were finished after they sold Ince, Hughes, Beckham, Keane, RvN, Ronaldo, Tevez etc etc etc. There is always someone who comes in and steps up.

                  I trust Fergie 100% If Rooney stays, excellent. If he goes, then it was the right decision for the club and the team will evolve again.

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                  1. Shakey
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    You have strikers coming out of your ears, but none of them are that good.

                    And when you sold Hughes, you bought Cole. When you sold Beckham, you bought Ronaldo, and then Rooney the year after. You even bought Tevez a season after selling RVN.

                    If you sell your best players and don't replace them, you'll get worse - see last season for details.

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                  2. AP
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    Chico time.

                    See goals in the world cup and CL for details.

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                  3. Shakey
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    Carlos Vela's understudy? cool.

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                  4. AP
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    Yeah he's a bit like Vela apart from he scores goals and plays more than once a season.

                    Best thing about this Rooney news? MF broke the story on FFS. See Vidic, Raul, Milner for details 🙂

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                  5. Shakey
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    Hold on tightly to those straws.

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                  6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    Blimey, you two still at it? That's medalworthy! 😀

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                  7. AP
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    I take it that was meant to be ironic MF. I'll remember to point and laugh in Jan though, don't worry.

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      3. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        He could be like Nani last year come January.

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    6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      What a prat that boy is turning out to be ... ğŸ˜

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      1. Big Dunc
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Could've told you that 5 years ago....

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Yup, you probably could. Blame my incurable optimism about England prospects ... silly bugger, me. ğŸ˜

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        2. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          'Once a c*nt, always a c*nt'

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Would that be me or Rooney? 😉

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      2. Oliver Reed
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        hes been a prat since he came out of the womb.

        it only came to attention though when he came out of another womb, that of a 50 year old manc hooker.. 🙂

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    7. AP
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      No quotes, no deal.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Even the bloody Grauniad sports hacks wouldn't run a story like this without background checks, A P! ğŸ™

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      2. chinmusic
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        There are never going to be quotes on a story like that. There is clearly a rift between the two.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Indeedy. The same story has been everywhere today

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          1. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Guardian is pretty reliable, if it happens Utd wont be able to afford a replacement.

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            1. AP
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Don't need to, already got one: CHICO TIME!

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              1. Oliver Reed
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                ah young chico, how did he play yesterday? not seend the highlights...

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                1. AP
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 5 months ago

                  Yah, scored, but lacked service for most of the game.

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              2. Big Dunc
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                Maybe you could buy an attacking, creative midfielder like that Van der Vaart chap or Mesut Ozil. Oh wait, haven't we had this conversation before? 😉

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                1. Shipstontrev
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 5 months ago

                  lol

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              3. Drip Doctor
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                I must admit he looks good but Berbatov & Chico wont make defenders follow through when they see the team sheet.

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        2. chinmusic
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Only question is whether they can sort it out. SAF's past says not, but United need Rooney so desperately maybe SAF will change the habits of a lifetime.

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        3. AP
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          I agree, something isn't right, but there is a big difference between a rift and leaving the club. I'm worried, but not that worried. Would happily swap him for Ronaldo though 🙂

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          1. dogtanion
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            He's happy in Brazil apparently although you might just be able to afford him

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              1. dogtanion
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                ahaaha, what an absolute mess of a man!

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              2. Shakey
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                And transvestites.

                http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7374317.stm

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            1. Marknlard
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              The prostitute stories may be enough to turn his head OT-wards.

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        4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Not so much a rift, more a chasm. The shit has passed through the fan, and has made an ugly spatter pattern on the public wall ...

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          1. AP
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Also, Vidic was definitely meant to be off to Madrid. Don't believe everything you read. I won't bite till i hear the words from Wayne or Sir Alex of Ferguson.

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      3. Shakey
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Nice stance.

        but there weren't any quotes from Fabregas in the summer, but we all knew...

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        1. Just One More Thing
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          It doesn't look good. Rooney is the type of player who can only overcome a massive loss in form by getting on the pitch to do get it back, and not be kept on the bench to stew. Fergie knows that.

          His benching v West Brom was a pure act of chastisement from Fergie...

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        2. Dave Boozle
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          The thing is, is that like it or lump it, Man U need Rooney. They may well not finish in the top 4 this season, they've dropped so many points already and are not impressing at all.

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          1. Shakey
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            I don't think there are four teams better than United, Rooney or no Rooney.

            4th is the absolute lowest they'll finish this season.

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            1. AP
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              1st is the absolute lowest we'll finish this season.

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              1. Syd.
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                genius..lol

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            2. Dave Boozle
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Nor do I. But it's not a given. City, Utd, arsenal, totts and even everton are all in the mix for 3 places.

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      4. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Your season is an absolute tatters...

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          *in

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        2. AP
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Dream on yoof.

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          1. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Rooney for Torres in January haha

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          2. Syd.
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            city dont need him one ballbag is enough for anyone team 🙂

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      5. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        He's gone. He'll go to Citeh for about £50k more a week.

        And my much-mocked prediction of United finishing fifth will be virtually guaranteed, and I'll be considered even more of a genius than I already am.

        Ahem.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Well, the first three letters are right, anyway ... 😉

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        2. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          'and I’ll be considered even more of a genius than I already am.'

          lol

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        3. Akers
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          The hysteria that follows any negative story surrounding Man United is laughable. Pathetic.

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          1. Voronin
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Its actually very excellent.

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          2. AP
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Who's that team who are undefeated so far this season again?

            Arsenal? Chelsea? City?

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            1. Voronin
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              We only lost 2 games all season and didn't win the league, Draws are what kills title chances.

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            2. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Brilliant, really brilliant.

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              1. AP
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                It's 'jokes' isn't it yoof.

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                1. jamsiep
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 5 months ago

                  Ah, the 'yoof' jibe, yet again....

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            3. Akers
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Crisis club.

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            4. Syd.
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              now you are clutching at straws

              your 2 points ahead of wba after 8 games

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              1. AP
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                And City are 5 points ahead of WBA. Well done.

                *spazz face*

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                1. Syd.
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 5 months ago

                  sweet.. ur hurting more than i thought.. 🙂

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                  1. AP
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 5 months ago

                    Ah, no, i just think you are possibly a little simple.

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    8. Akers
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      He won't go, just spitting the dummy out. All this has come about because of the poor form he's in, he's annoyed with himself and he's too immature to deal with it. Fergie will have a word, he'll score a goal, and we'll move on.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Not this time, sadly, Akers. ğŸ™

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  25. For Fuchs Sake
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 5 months ago

    Hodgson still saying it was a good performance in all of the interviews! What game was he watching?

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      I've got a lot of time for Hodgson but that interview was so embarassing. Martin O'Neill in by Christmas - you heard it here first!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        Nothing wrong with Hodgson, plenty with Liverpool. Plenty of backroom blood to be spilt yet, JOMT! ğŸ™

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        1. Shakey
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Couldn't agree more.

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        2. Just One More Thing
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          Benitez has clearly left his mark MMW but Hodgson's weak-willed explanations are not winning fans over, never mind the performances on the pitch.

          Torres still looks awfully disinterested and he looks so sluggish with his movement that Gerrard & co don't know what to do with the ball when they have it....

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          1. Voronin
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Agreed. Hodgson has inherited a mess however he is not motivating what he has to even try. Benitez with the same 11 would have more points on the board. His transfers have been terrible and could have been worse if he had captured his man, Carlton Cole.

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Gerrard is actually the root cause of the problem, but Hodgson is not yet strong enough to deal with him. Give him a bit more time mate, he's having to endure an awful lot of public humiliation ...

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            1. Voronin
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 5 months ago

              Oh I will give him time but I won't allow him no blame whatsoever. The club now has virtulally no debt so a nice clean slate to work from.

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 5 months ago

                Fair dos ... 🙂

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      2. Voronin
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        I actually heard it from Stan Collymore first. Total bullshit whoever says it.

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        1. Just One More Thing
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 5 months ago

          If I'm on the same wavelength as Stan Collymore I'd better retire from this forum ğŸ™

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          1. Voronin
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            Lol!

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 5 months ago

            No, JOMT - You're the real deal - dinna fash ...

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  26. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 5 months ago

    bale and cleverley --> n'zogbia and adam
    no hit
    good idea?

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    1. Zidane
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      top draw transfer imo

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        definitely

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    2. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      just Cleverley>Adam imo

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      1. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 5 months ago

        can't afford

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  27. Voronin
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 5 months ago

    Silva is quality.

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  28. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 5 months ago

    malouda and ethers or vdv and adam...?

    the latter would free up £2.6m...

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  29. P0mpey
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 5 months ago

    What do you think of

    O'shea > Elmohamedy

    Bale > Adam

    Berbatov > Tevez

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    1. Milan
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 5 months ago

      Looks nice. Go for it.

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