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22 November 2010 1702 comments
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Hats and scarves on folks, we’ve one last roll of the dice in gameweek fourteen as Sunderland play host to Everton this evening.

This morning’s paper reports proved to be correct as Asamoah Gyan sits out with leg injury allowing Darren Bent to return to the team. Anton Ferdinand comes in for Sunderland’s rock – no joke – Titus Bramble, presumably having picked up a knock too. Everton are unchanged. Full teams follow…

Sunderland XI: Gordon; Onuoha, Turner, Ferdinand, Bardsley; Richardson, Henderson, Cattermole, Zenden; Bent, Welbeck

Everton XI: Howard; Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines; Coleman, Arteta, Heitinga, Pienaar; Cahill; Saha

The Dugout Discussion is open awaiting all of your yelps if your heart so desires.

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  1. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Dear Elmo/Mummy

    Thank you for your short cameo. I supported you through thick and thin, good times and bad, form changes and name changes. I therefore feel you owed me a few minutes tonight to stop all the scabby sub points for those who were daft enough to think would play a mjor role tonight.

    For the good times...

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    1. Pigvig
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed.

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  2. Just One More Thing
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    If Beckford had scored that chance at the end he would have scooped the 3 bps probably...

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      +10000

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      And deserved them more than Arteta. (own goal I reckon)! 😉

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    3. threeputt
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      and given me 3 pts for the assist from jags - stupid git !

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  3. mr messi
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    I already have Boateng, should I replace Elmo with Kolarov or is it too much City? If so, who else would be good? I can spend up to 5.8m.

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  4. Boom!!!
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    bp judges sucks!!!

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    1. carlingtat
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      damn right they do havent a clue what they're doing

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  5. pstokes2010
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    i have arteta in my team and i must admit that him getting 2 points is a total joke

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  6. Goose
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Dont u hate when a rival has a spell of doing everything right, bloody Baines, what a douche!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed - but a great LB! 😀

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      1. Goose
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        It kinda seems its worth splashing out on the best defender / best scoring defener in a team this season.

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  7. shak95
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    HAVE THE BPS ONLY COME IN FOR BLOODY CAHILL OR WOT

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  8. greghammer95
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Stupid football rules to do with celebrations. VDV Sshhing the Arsenal fans cost me my H2H. Even more reason to get rid of that stupid rule.

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    1. AP
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Greg greg greg. With the best possible intentions, no one cares about the H2H.

      This Arteta bonuslolgate is far more interesting.

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      1. greghammer95
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        I know no-one does, but I am having a rant. I quite liked the Arteta BP's to be honest, ridiculous they may be. 🙂

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    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      It's kind of forlorn to pick out individual points as a reason to lose a h2h. A bonus point, a yellow card, a dodgy refs decision all contribute, it's just well annoying when its just 1 point. I won my h2h by 1 point, but that after losing my first 2 games this year both by a point.

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      1. greghammer95
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        True, a bit of Karma for me I suppose. I won 2 by 1 point in a row earlier in the season and the GW after that by 2 points.

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  9. Houdini
    15 years, 8 months ago

    How did Cahill not get any BP's? What is their criteria fro giving someone bonus points?

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    1. jamsiep
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      It's ridiculous. I actually feel physically sick..

      I'm not sticking around to see that I've inevitably fallen yet further. See y'all!

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      A comes before C!

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  10. Firetick
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    How can Baines get nothing?

    Oh well at least I have great score of 80. My best of the season

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    1. dogtanion
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Did you not see him for Sunderland's first goal?

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      1. Firetick
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        Must've missed that

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  11. zissou
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Williamson's outta here.
    Get in Baines or Kolarov?

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  12. Bigo1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    OK lets stop it, Arteta had a very very good second half. Cahill barely touched the ball, fair enough he almost scored a second goal, but almost is not enough

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Bullsh*t!

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    2. carlingtat
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      yeh but if he scored the second he wud have got all 3! so what does that say? the BP judges dont have a clue

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      1. Armchair Manager
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        Cahill had two attempts cleared off the line and was def worth a bp behind pienaar. Judges clearly have a hard on for arteta

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  13. celtic10000
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    why did harewoods price go down again?? i bought him this week and he scored so why is it goin down ?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiUqfxFttM

      😉

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        Better than a picture of Esther Rantzen...

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 8 months ago

          Well, of course, that's true ... 😀

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          1. Shipstontrev
            • 17 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            🙂 8)

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 8 months ago

              Ta 😉

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  14. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Thank you Steve Bruce for showing us that Fergie was right in saying Welbeck has a great future. Who are we to doubt Sir Alex.

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    1. AP
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Aye but not as a sodding winger Fergie.

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      1. Armchair Manager
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        If gyan was fit welbeck wud of played as winger. clearly 3rd in the pecking order. At utd he wud prob be 6th

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Well ... 😀

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    3. MAD
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      I don't like utd at all, but I'll always remember that Welbeck screamer with the outside of his foot a few seasons back. Pure class.

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        +1

        Absolute quality goal, remember it well, 'twas his first for us, against Stoke.

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  15. defTouch85
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    No BPs for Cahill? So lame

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  16. Boom!!!
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    The three worst performing players in each match will receive additional bonus points. Three points will be awarded to the best player, two to the second best and a single point to the third.

    Player performance is assessed by Press Association analysts, all of whom are ex-professional footballers, who attend each match. This assessment takes into account the quality of a player's overall performance and their contribution to the match result.

    Bonus points are awarded within 1 hour of the last match of the day finishing.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Surely shome mishtake - worsht/besht, hic! 😉

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      1. carlingtat
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        thats the joke that they seem to vote the wors players sometimes

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  17. Big Dunc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Arteta actually played well in the second half, but the truth is he got 2BPs because he always gets them. That is why he is a good FPL player, and is a better pick long term than Cahill (who only ever gets them when he scores a brace)

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    1. Alex Hunter
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      not true, in the merseyside derby he scored the second goal and got zero.

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    2. juliusceizure
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      true, but if this is the case then this game becomes less about football.

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    3. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      The study of bonus points reveals that the biggest contribution to receiving points are

      A) goals,
      B) followed by assists,
      C) followed by touches of the ball.

      Arteta simply wins C) every time as does Fabregas as does Barry Ferguson. Combine C) with A) or B) and it's likely that bonus points will come his way.

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      1. Johnny Unitas
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        well put, let's build a bridge and get over the BP's, they are flawed, often glorious when on the receiving end of possible undeserved BP's, often miserable when your rival is the benefactor of same! BP's are there, we have to live with them!

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        Neat - even I get that! 🙂

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  18. Lanley Staurel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    6 goals
    4 assists
    10 BPs

    Now if Carlsberg did GWs....

    I like the game again. Toys back in pram.

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  19. Houdini
    15 years, 8 months ago

    I didn't see the game I was listening to it, but Arteta didn't sound involved. Should I be emailing them about BP allocation?

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    1. celtic10000
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      why bother?

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      1. Houdini
        15 years, 8 months ago

        They've changed them before, maybe an explanation. There needs to be clear criteria as to why they award someone BP's. If the opta stats show more involvement from Cahill does that mean they were wrong?

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        1. celtic10000
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 8 months ago

          they just give it to whoever they feel deserved them(arteta for some reason in this case) i think cahill or arteta shouldnt of got any and baines should of got 2

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    2. Countryside Ram
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      ask them why jara still has those 2bps while your at it!

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    3. carlingtat
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      how can you email them?

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  20. juliusceizure
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    arteta 2pts for a lucky goal and sh*t all else

    just why...

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  21. ahk786
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    drogba to tevez discuss .......

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      No I won't!

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    2. threeputt
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      are you a manager perchance ? feel like im back at work

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    3. carlingtat
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      discuss it yourself we're not here to play the game for you

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    4. threeputt
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      erm...
      drogba
      drogz
      trogz
      trvgz
      tevgz
      tevez
      is that right ?

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  22. Lewis - Sky Pod
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Are all you Arteta owners actually embarrassed? Arteta was the worst player on the pitch, barring Coleman. He consistently gave the ball away, notably which led to sunderland's second goal. And scored a ridiculous defelcted 'goal.
    Cahill had 5> shots on target, a goal, and two cleared off the line, and he gets 0.
    FPL seriously are beyond belief

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    1. celtic10000
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      yeah im sooooo embaressed.......NOT

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      1. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        nice spelling

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    2. AP
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Embarrassed, no. When purchasing Arteta 3 weeks ago, i expected him to get dodgy bonus points, that was the whole point. 2 in 3 games is actually disappointing frankly.

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        well said AP 8)

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        1. Lewis - Sky Pod
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 8 months ago

          your point makes no sense whatsoever AP, you purchased a player playing in DM all season, who has scored 1(2?) goals, and very few assists, purely based on the fact that he will get bonus points when he is not due them? surely that is something to be embarrassed about?

          the fpl bonus system is embarrassing and has no consistent logic.

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          1. andy85wsm
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            • 16 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            Why would anyone be embarrassed seriously?

            Maybe the FPL judges should be but a player for picking them? Christ get a grip.

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            Have you no grasp of irony, then? 😀

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            1. Shipstontrev
              • 17 Years
              15 years, 8 months ago

              since when has there been logic in the bp system?

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          3. Marknlard
            • 17 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            I've felt a lot of emotions playing FPL. But I don't think I've ever felt embarrassment, or even anything similar.

            I just don't know what you're on about.

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            1. Goose
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 8 months ago

              +1 bizzare!

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            2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 8 months ago

              +42, that's it, there you go.

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          4. AP
            • 17 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            From one comedy institution to another: David Brent, you are a fruit loop.

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          5. PFOR
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            He's not a DM. He just plays very deep. And why the f*ck should we be embarrassed?

            That's like being embarrassed when Kalou scores tap-ins after being on for 5 minutes

            We got the points. End of.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 8 months ago

              Actually, he's just a very naughty boy!

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    3. andy85wsm
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Why would anyone be embarrassed?

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      1. Lewis - Sky Pod
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        i'd just be embarrassed to shout about having arteta when he gets bonus points for scoring a deflected goal and being by some distance the worst player on the pitch

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        1. Goose
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 8 months ago

          But it a way without knowing the criteria for BPs (if there is one) how can you say its not justified?!

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  23. Alex Hunter
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    i believed in arteta since gw1, reaped some bps and a goal sold him when he plummeted to 8.2 from 8.5 to get nasri for two weeks, brought him back, 2 pts. machine, then benched him out of all the time i've had him this one week, and bang. to quote the great SAF, "football, bloody hell."

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  24. shak95
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Can some please please tell me if ALL Bps have been given yet?

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    1. greghammer95
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Lol, yes they have, and Cahill didn't get any.

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    2. Alex Hunter
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      yes, zenden 1, welbeck 3, arteta 2.

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    3. Pigvig
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      Yes they have.

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  25. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Righto, I'm off. Early start tomorrow and going away til Sat night. My transfer was Park > N'Zog, straightforward enough, and my team for next weekend is thus:

    Robinson (Carson)
    Kolarov/Coleman/Konchesky (Jara, Simpson)
    Adam/VDV/Nani/Fabs/N'Zog
    Drogba/Tevez (Odemwingie)

    I don't like playing the combo's of Robinson/Nani and VDV/Konch but I spose it's not going to be great whichever combo I choose.

    Any thoughts on changes?

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    1. threeputt
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      whats the point ? you just said "im off" - bye

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      1. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        nothing constructive, say nothing

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        1. threeputt
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 8 months ago

          you still here ?

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      2. Damo.
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        Jesus man it takes effort to be a w@nker why bother

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  26. Johnny Unitas
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    67 on Saturday with Jagielka/Boateng/Albrighton to go! happy days! I was thinking 75-85 very possible.

    1/0/0 with Piquionne 2 and Simpson 0 coming in. Alot to be said for having a good day on the final day of the gameweek, whenever I do well very early it's always downhill after that!

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  27. PFOR
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Stopped watching the game at about the hour mark. Just in. Arteta goal and bonus.

    Thank you 😀

    Might get less of a red arrow now.

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  28. Alex Hunter
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    another week w/19 pts. on the bench, it's becoming almost a certainty.

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    1. Alex Hunter
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      correction, make that 20 this time.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        Some dodgy decisions, then! 🙂

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      2. Smarty Pants
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        It's 11+9+2=22, isn't it?

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  29. HowManyGoals
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    Right guys and girls, Piggy out tomorrow in Champ League. Already got Nani, Bastos, Pablo & Gonzalez. 9.5m in bank. Thinking of either Nasri, Bale, VDV or someone like Martins of Benfica.

    Any views would be most appreciated.

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 8 months ago

      who is piggy?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        FFS - Schweinsteiger ... 😛

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      2. HowManyGoals
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 8 months ago

        sorry, schweinsteigger (suspended)

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        1. Boom!!!
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 8 months ago

          vdv or bale is a must to have in champs lg this gw...

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          1. HowManyGoals
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            Ah, but which one? VDV is probably more consistent and has a great record at home but despite his fpl score at the weekend i thought be was lacking somewhat. Did someone say he was carrying a knock?
            With Arshavin out, Nasri could be worth a punt too. Too good ties.
            Decisions, decisions.

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            1. HowManyGoals
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 8 months ago

              er... too=two

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        2. Shipstontrev
          • 17 Years
          15 years, 8 months ago

          Not Lampard then?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 8 months ago

            Hmmm 😠😉

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  30. David Davros
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 8 months ago

    I thought it was pretty well established that Arteta didn't have to do much to get BPs, why are people still shocked by this?

    Anyway, pretty frustrated, played him every single gameweek apart from this one so far!

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