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22 November 2010 1702 comments
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Hats and scarves on folks, we’ve one last roll of the dice in gameweek fourteen as Sunderland play host to Everton this evening.

This morning’s paper reports proved to be correct as Asamoah Gyan sits out with leg injury allowing Darren Bent to return to the team. Anton Ferdinand comes in for Sunderland’s rock – no joke – Titus Bramble, presumably having picked up a knock too. Everton are unchanged. Full teams follow…

Sunderland XI: Gordon; Onuoha, Turner, Ferdinand, Bardsley; Richardson, Henderson, Cattermole, Zenden; Bent, Welbeck

Everton XI: Howard; Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines; Coleman, Arteta, Heitinga, Pienaar; Cahill; Saha

The Dugout Discussion is open awaiting all of your yelps if your heart so desires.

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  1. IAmTheWalrus
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    dont like my team!!!

    i have to play both konchesky and odemwengie next week it appears?!

    0.3 in the bank, anything to save it?

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  2. Boom!!!
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    wow did i see arteta in the pen box for the first time in 5 weeks...

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  3. Major Doubts
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    15 years, 4 months ago

    Heaven knows what Arteta has done, to be banished to the naughty step for so long.

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  4. Boom!!!
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    15 years, 4 months ago

    baines n cahill looks good for bp...

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  5. greghammer95
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    15 years, 4 months ago

    Lol @ me jeering for a penalty to Everton any time a sunderland player blocks a shot in the box or touches an everton player in the box

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    1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      haha

      arteta is a pointless buy this season

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  6. mr messi
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    15 years, 4 months ago

    Does Zabaleta miss the next City game? And if so is Boateng likely to start?

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      same question i would like to ask

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  7. Granville
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    I'm still watching much to wife's chagrin. It's important to me that Everton don't concede another, Coleman 2 points is all I need to win my h2h.

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    1. greghammer95
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Turn it off and find out later. I'm going to do that now. Ok I don't have a wife nagging me but my Mum wants to watch Eastenders. Also Arteta is just agonising to watch.

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Eastenders over football. Oh deary, deary me.

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        1. greghammer95
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Thats what my Dad would say. Meh. Its better than watching Arteta do nothing and frustrate the hell out of me.

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      15 years, 4 months ago

      chagrin - a word not used enough..

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      1. Retro
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Nearly as hard to pronounce as Gyan.

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  8. jamsiep
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    15 years, 4 months ago

    Could Phil Bardsley possibly let Coleman out of his back pocket? It would be much appreciated by my fantasy team.

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  9. Nibbsy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Right, Elmo has to go.

    Is Elmo > Bardsley/Salcido worth a hit to avoid having to play one of:

    Konchesky (tot)
    Samba (MUN)?

    Or leave it til its free?

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      never take a hit for a def mate...

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      1. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, thought that might be the response.

        Really want to get rid of him tho.

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    2. Farva
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Not worth the hit. But my advice would be to get a City defender and one from either Birmingham, Fulham or Bolton in eventually. Ship out Alex and Elmo.

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      1. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks for the advice. I have 0.4 in the bank. Would do Kolarov if I could afford.

        Pretty sure I'll be doing Alex - Kolarov in GW17 anyway tho.

        Birmingham I already have Foster so don't want to double up, Fulham I am looking at hence Salcido.

        Bolton I want to get Jaask in for Carson.

        All that make sense?

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        1. Farva
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Didn't notice you had Foster. Everything else makes sense. Wouldn't get Jussi in myself, don't really trust Bolton to keep a clean sheet. Cahill and to a lesser extent Knight, at least offer some attacking potential.
          Should keep an eye on Rafael, tho even if he plays he's prone to rotation. Luke Young of Villa is also a decent option on the cheaper side, but they have crap fixtures and aren't that solid at the back as they used to be.

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  10. Boom!!!
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    c'mon RAFA!!!

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    1. mr messi
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Nadal?

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      1. Boom!!!
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        yes rafa nadal!!!

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        1. Bojaninho
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          hes rusty as hell...hmm roddick could pull it if he keeps his level up...

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        2. mr messi
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Who's he playing?

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          1. mr messi
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            Oh I see Roddick

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  11. JCrosbie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    elmo to kolarov
    worth 4pts?

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      no

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    2. Anti-Ipswich
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      15 years, 4 months ago

      It's never worth taking a hit for a defender

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Nonsense!

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      2. David Davros
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Not really true is it?

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        1. JCrosbie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          i hav to play 1 of these this week

          elmo
          williamson (chelsea and might be suspended)
          alacaraz (suspended)

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          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            Take the hit and get Kolarov, it will save you a transfer bringing him in later.

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      3. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        I'd do that transfer. Fancy City to keep a CS at Stoke and Elmo likely to get 0. Thats +2 pts. Plus Kolarov is attacking and on corners.

        I would do it if I had the cash.

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  12. Anti-Ipswich
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    God I hate that the iPhone doesnt have flash so I can enter the dugout discussion

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Easily solved by getting an Android phone.

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      1. Retro
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Lots of rich people on here 😉

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  13. Johnny Unitas
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Another Everton clean sheet then, oh , erm, nice one. Phil Jagielka 4 weeks, 5 points if I am lucky at it stays at 1 conceded. 5.8 is too much now, I am shopping with my 2 freebies this week.

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  14. Andy1
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Who to keep
    A) Drogba
    B) Malouda

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      drog

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    2. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      malouda

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    3. AS
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      drog for sure

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    4. JWF
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Neither

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  15. Pinnochio
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    15 years, 4 months ago

    have gyan as my captain..hes not playing so who will the captaincy go to this week. iTS ON FORM
    elmander
    carrol
    van der vaart
    foster?

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    1. H Dog
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Click on data view and it will appear. I suspect it will be elmander or carroll.

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Go to 'transfers' and select form from the drop-down list. Sorry, have to get back to footy so can't do it for you.

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    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Just checked, it's Carroll alphabetically ahead of Elmander! Unlucky.

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  16. Back on the horse
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    danny dyer you tool. a dvd of own goals isn't funny

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Ha, is it him doing the 'funny own goal DVD for Christmas' this year then?

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      1. Back on the horse
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        yeah, it was a right budget ad.

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    2. H Dog
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      well said

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    3. Damo.
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Nice one I'm definitely gonna by Carragher's biopic

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      1. Damo.
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        *buy. Damn it anyway

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          buy what?!

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          1. Damo.
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            Just stretch your eyes up a wee bit further 😉

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            1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 4 months ago

              yes yes but what is this carrgher biopic?!

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              1. Damo.
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 4 months ago

                A dvd of own goals

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                1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 4 months ago

                  oh right

                  f*ck me i'm slow HAHA

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  17. Retro
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    It's too bad FPL don't let you borrow money to buy someone good instead of Elmohamady if you promised to sell someone expensive the week after.

    Bridging loan required!

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      +1.

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      1. JCrosbie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        the should do an overdraft system with 2pt per week interest

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        1. fuloptothebrum
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          2pt per week interest on how much extra money? Would make the game so interesting you could take out a massive overdraft and get all the big names or just play budget players and earn some interest points

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    2. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Brilliant shout.

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  18. Boom!!!
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    interesting stat:sunderland has now faced all the top 10 teams from last season n they hasn't lost any of them....

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  19. Soul Glo - Just let your so…
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Wow that was a non-existant performance from Arteta. He hardly gets the ball. Terrible terrible choice. I don't care he's playing WBA nxt week. He's outta here.

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    1. Retro
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Where's your 'Wagner-speak' gone??

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    2. CravenA
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      +1 (see below)

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      1. Soul Glo - Just let your so…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        You said it perfectly! I do not understand it. They just do not pass the ball to him. What does he do apart from distracting players. Seriously bad!!!!

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    3. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      So Wagner, do you think you can win?

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      1. Soul Glo - Just let your so…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Like I said. I just want to be famous!

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  20. JCrosbie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    elmo to kolarov 4pt hit?
    i hav to play 1 of these this week

    elmo
    williamson (chelsea and might be suspended)
    alacaraz (suspended)

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  21. CravenA
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Can someone tell me, what is the point of Arteta (for FPL team or Everton)? He just runs around the centre circle pointing at where others should go.

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      He is bossing the game

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      1. CravenA
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Oh, right, I see.

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      2. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Did they play a game of subbueteo at half time

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      3. Soul Glo - Just let your so…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        AAAAAHHHHHHH!!! That is all I have to say to you Mr Cracker.

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  22. Pigvig
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Quick question: How many goals have Everton's strikers scored this season? Can't be many.

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    1. Damo.
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      hmmm The yak got 1, beckford got 1...that's me

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    2. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      2 or 3 ..

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    3. H Dog
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      2, yak and beckford

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    4. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      beckford has 1, yakubu might have 2, not sure saha has scored yet

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        nope not a sausage.

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  23. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    The positive thing is that Arteta seems to be staying healthy in his new role far, far away from the penalty area

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    1. CravenA
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Far far away from everything!

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    2. Soul Glo - Just let your so…
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      dumb spaniard!

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  24. mr messi
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Should I take a 4pt hit to get rid of Faye (already getting rid of Elmo) or just play Jones even though it's against MU? I also have Williamson who could be suspended.

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  25. Johnny Unitas
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Losing patience with Jagielka, better alternatives? I have:

    Boateng/Simpson/Elmo/Vidic and 3.0m in the bank, have 2 freebies this week but can't see good defenders this week, maybe Piquonne OUT is more of a priority, sick of 3 points in 4 games from Jags

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    1. PFOR
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Home game against Albion this weekend.

      Elmo out is more important.

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      1. Boom!!!
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        +1..i also have jags i will not transfer him out this gw for sure...

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    2. H Dog
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Out of those i would get vidic because boateng is rotation risky, simpson just cannot get clean sheets, elmo does not play. Get vidic then upgrade piq

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  26. PFOR
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone else find it strange that the little dream team icon is no longer beside Drogba's name?

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      I find it even stranger that Elmander has the star. It's got to all come crashing to a halt soon. Hasn't it?

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      1. fuloptothebrum
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        probably as soon as i get him in...

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      2. PFOR
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Very strange season. Hopefully things can become normal again coming up to Christmas and I can get my top 10,000 spot 🙂

        This game used to be easy.

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        1. fuloptothebrum
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          im nearly at 300k, considering suicide

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          1. Damo.
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            Don't worry I'll catch ya on the way down bud

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  27. JWF
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    I want my Mummy! Alcaraz waiting on my bench otherwise 🙁

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Ouch, you're probably the only one out there that wants mummy for 1 minute.

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Mummy will come on.

        and thats the bottom line because keith chegwin said so.

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Sunderland are playing well, if they don't score another he might stay on the bench.

          If you smeeeelalalalaaa what Chamackh That is cookin'!

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          1. PFOR
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            Here's a can of beer.

            *STONE COLD STUNNER*

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            1. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 4 months ago

              WHAT WHAT WHAT... YOUR FIRED!

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      2. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        nope

        i want him to come out too

        all my mates brought him in when they saw me gettin points off him now they all have him and i dont

        fkers deserve 1 point

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      3. Soul Glo - Just let your so…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        That mummy coming on will be awful!

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      4. JWF
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        That 1 point is worth 4 to me so yeah a 1 minute cameo from the Mummy would do me fine.

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  28. josepe
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    a.cole -> Kolorov/evra
    adam -> cahill

    4point hit. worth it?

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Vidic is better, more of a goal threat and Evra never gets bonus. Amazing to think that a few weeks ago when I bought Vidic at 7.2m, he was 0.2m less than Evra.

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      1. josepe
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        yea already got the serbian meat head in my team, it's really a decision of whos the best def for under 7.5 mil excluding Vidic, Konchesky, Coleman, Jones

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        1. Granville
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          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          For me it's Ivanovic, but I only say that because I got him. 4 shots at goal at the weekend and so very nearly scored.

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  29. kommissar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Feedback wanted on this Wildcard team. Trying to optimize fixtures from GW 15-22, when the second wildcard can be activated.

    Robinson Jaaskelainen
    Vidic Kolarov Konchesky Coleman Foley
    Fabregas Nani VDV Nani NZogz
    Tevez K.Davies Carroll

    Improvement potential?

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    1. kommissar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Second Nani is Cahill

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      1. Boom!!!
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        jaas out for gordon n elmander ahead of k.davies...

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        1. kommissar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Jaas for Gordon Yes.
          Elmander for K.Davies not so sure. Not convinced Elmander will continue outscoring Davies (on pens).

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          1. Boom!!!
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            k.davies has scored most off his goals from pens so u might be praying for a pen in b'pool game..elmander is on form n scoring goals for fun atm..

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        2. kommissar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Hmm on second thoughts. You see, Robinson and Gordon doesn't rotate, whereas Robinson Jaask will give me
          BLP WOL BLA WHM WBA wba sun WIG
          over the next 7 GWs.

          Thats quite nice!

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    2. DeathAngel
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      If you're optimising for fixtures, then what the hell is Carroll doing in there? His fixtures are a nightmare!

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      1. kommissar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Guess you have a point there, had him since the start so would be too painful to get rid.

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  30. pieces
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    How do I get elmo out my team? I have zilch in the bank and 2 transfers. Want to get kolarov in, but to do so will have to either get rid of drogba for torres/elmander/davies/rvp(too early methinks)or acole for vidic/evra

    Foster/carson
    Dann Elmo Acole simpson jara
    fabs nani VdV jarvis ferguson
    Drogs tevez carroll

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    1. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Cashley. But would consider City def cover as replacement.

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      1. pieces
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Ok so cashley but for vidic/evra? Need at least 1 decent defender with better chance of cleanies

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        1. Nibbsy
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          As I said, I would trust City for cleanies more than United.

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