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6 December 2010 1472 comments
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Some of us have been snowed in, some of us have been knocked down by winter viruses for more days than they would wish and others are just waiting for Fernando Torres to shine a light on their season. I confess, all those three are me so enough of the pity party as we’ve got one final fixture to close out gameweek sixteen.

The news that Fernando Torres wife has gone into labour (oh god, not that old chestnut again!) will cause many, myself included, to kick up a storm as Ryan Babel comes in to replace the Spanish maestro this evening. Some end to the gameweek. Teams in full are…

Liverpool XI: Reina; Johnson, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Konchesky; Kuyt, Meireles, Lucas, Maxi; Babel, Ngog

Villa XI: Friedel; L. Young,Dunne, Collins, Warnock; Albrighton, Clark, Hogg, Downing; Ireland; Agbonlahor

As always the Dugout Discussion is open late night today as we see what Houllier can do on his first return to Anfield.

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  1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    fkin hell best liverpool ever done and theres no gerrard or torres

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    1. JoeWasEre
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      My thoughts exactly. They were playing pretty well in pre-season without their world cup players too, huh?

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  2. Marknlard
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    Was surprised the flag stayed down even on the first viewing.

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    1. applebonkers
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      +1

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  3. rez-rez
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    lol.... no need to give away that corner..

    i got all excited thought it was big paul with the assist..

    no luck..

    skirt and paual are look alikes...

    p.s.. lol its now 2-0

    was offside big style

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  4. Mogsy
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    Who needs Torres - Barcelona!

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  5. AP
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    Another dodgy offside goal? Bleurgh.

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    1. chinmusic
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      Torres's wife being heavily pregnant is the kind of detail I rely on someone on here knowing.

      The Monday f4cking night curse. Samba was sent off the last time I had any interest in one of these games.

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      1. Jax
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        15 years, 7 months ago

        stop your whinging

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  6. meridasleftpeg
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    am I mad to do adam > cahill considering the fixtures upcoming??

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  7. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    jesus christ, i layed liverpool. good call me 🙁

    villa are shocking bad, absolutely shocking. Odemwingie in for carroll for me

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    1. Little Lukin
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      You wouldn't have got much value on Liverpool Roy?

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      1. Little Lukin
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        15 years, 7 months ago

        I had Babel first scorer, oh well

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      2. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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        no, i layed them at 1.6, right call, but didnt expect my bet to be fooked this bloody early. Villa look like they havent kicked a ball in a week, close control of a drunk parkie sufferer, all of em!

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  8. MARVELLUS
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    KNEW I should have brought in Babel and Ngog this week, almost did...

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      lol!

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    2. Rasping Drive
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      F**k me pink, Buggu, haven't seen you on here for a while, what's with the name change?

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  9. rez-rez
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    pool are not gonna keep a clean sheet now..

    crap..

    needed the paul cleen sheet to make it to 66 points..

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  10. rez-rez
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    EHHHH TORRES IS BECOMING A FATHER FOR THE SECOND TIME..

    god sake.. why would he wanna go through that again, you would think the first time was more then enough..

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  11. cucumber
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    Class celebration by babel

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  12. 5678
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Was going to take that 4 point hot for Babel but was advised against it! You guy are full of shit!! x

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      😆 If Babel scores a hundred more tonight I would still advise against taking a hit to bring him in.

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  13. Attila the Bum
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    Liverpool are winning 2-0? 😯
    Missus making me watch Kirstie and Phil's Perfect Christmas. Why oh why was this tripe commissioned?!

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    1. AP
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      Because women are taking over tv commissioning.

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        15 years, 7 months ago

        Damned straight! She must have a hand in this, oh its awful. Two estate agents make a christmas party.

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        1. AP
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          15 years, 7 months ago

          #noonelikesyoubecause You support Manchester United, Liverpool, Stoke or Chelsea.

          What do the names Chill Pill and Mfaulkner mean to you?!!?

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            • 15 Years
            15 years, 7 months ago

            Haha apologies I knew I missed one. How did you find that little nugget anyway. 🙂

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            1. AP
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              15 years, 7 months ago

              My army of spys, or, stalking.

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              1. Attila the Bum
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                I just couldn't quite fit Arsenal in there.... honest guv

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                1. AP
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                  And no sunderland? 😯

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                  1. Attila the Bum
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                    I'm not from Newcastle so they dont upset me that much. But they should have been there too

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            2. jamsiep
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              15 years, 7 months ago

              He loves twitter.

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          2. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
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            hehehe

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            1. Attila the Bum
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              Grass!

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    2. jamsiep
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      You seen that Jol has quit Ajax? Could be heading to Newcastle....

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        He can bugger off.

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        1. AP
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          15 years, 7 months ago

          Now that is crazy talk. Jol > Houghton no matter how hard done by you are feeling.

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            15 years, 7 months ago

            Ah he is alright I suppose.

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            1. CRUSHER
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              15 years, 7 months ago

              Just make sure he doesn't get money to spend.

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              1. Attila the Bum
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                He wont. Ashley wont touch his pie fund.

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    3. TheHazard
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      Almost as much of a travesty as Newcastle 🙁

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Oh don't get me started, Mike Ashley is Sunderland Agent 00Fat

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        1. TheHazard
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          • 16 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          haha!

          But yeah, in all seriousness, he is a grade A nob

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    4. 5678
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Hahaha! Did you know how to make jelly prior?

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        • 15 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Haha no, to be fair I would not have made such fancy jelly before watching this. 🙂

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  14. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    the sad thing is if torres was in babels position he prbly wuda taken a touch too many

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    1. chinmusic
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah, he's a rubbish finisher that Torres. Not in Babel's league.

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      1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        haha did u watch the tottenham game???

        about 2 1 on 1s and he forgot to shoot

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        1. jamsiep
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          15 years, 7 months ago

          Have you been watching football for the past 6 or 7 years?

          I wouldn't actually be surprised if the answer is 'no'.

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          1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 7 months ago

            theres a thing called form

            chelsea fans have forgotten what that is by now

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            1. chinmusic
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              15 years, 7 months ago

              And Torres has scored or assisted in every single home game since the opening day against Arsenal when he played 17 minutes.

              Double fail.

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              1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
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                15 years, 7 months ago

                Wow u actually think torres is the best thing on gods green earth at this time

                how many goals has he got this season compared to last season??

                clearly hed have scored 4 in this match by now

                plz go read ur torres prayer book

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                1. chinmusic
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                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  You said he had no form. You were wrong. Live with that fact.

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                  1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
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                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    Baha

                    u think torres is on form

                    r u serious??...like ur not tryin to have a laugh

                    because if you are then you clearly dont know what a on-form torres is

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                  2. chinmusic
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    His home form is decent. Have a look back at the stats if you need some persuading.

                    Liverpool are sh1te away from home, no-one can deny that. This game is at Anfield.

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                  3. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
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                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    nobody rates home/away form

                    form is how a player plays each and every game how hard he works for the team and how he puts away chances

                    and some of his assists have been debatable anyway like the one for kuyt a few weeks ago

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                  4. chinmusic
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    You do know this is a fantasy football site, right? We all measure home form.

                    And if you're going to argue you're talking about "real life" form, why are you talking about debatable assists?

                    Triple fail.

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                2. jamsiep
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                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  'plz go read ur torres prayer book'

                  Your chat is so, so bad.

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        2. chinmusic
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          15 years, 7 months ago

          So he's no good now then, is this your argument?

          Torres is one of the best three finishers in the world.

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          1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
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            15 years, 7 months ago

            im nt sayin hes no good

            but hes not at his best is he

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  15. The Dynamo
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    i hate torres more now he could have a big night

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  16. Kevin
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    Fantastic... Torres not playing has just made this week go from bad to worst ever in fantasy competitions for me. And I had him as captain as well. Jesus

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    1. Kevin
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      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      I really feel like this could have been a big game for Torres too, couple of goals, bring his form back. Villa are terrible at the back. Bollocks!

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      1. JoeWasEre
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I thought the same. Villa have been shipping goals, and been poor away from home. Damn you, procreation!

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    2. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      ouch....thats one bad week

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    3. rez-rez
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      He wanted the to play, it was out of his hands..

      The mrs made sure he would miss the game.

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  17. RJBroughton
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    N'gog on the scoresheet as i expected 🙂

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      kyriagkos fail

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  18. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    how in christ's name is agbonlahor still getting paid to play professional football? absolutely useless piece of shit

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    1. Jafstar - TheRedDevil
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      and hes in the england team

      says it all...

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    2. Attila the Bum
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      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Was it Dbronaldo suggesting him for (c) next week? Apologies if it wasn't.

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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        15 years, 7 months ago

        it wsa, definitely

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      2. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I think he might have been joking....

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        1. Shipstontrev
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          15 years, 7 months ago

          he isn't that funny

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          1. Stat virgin
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 7 months ago

            Oooh, never seen nasty trev before

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            1. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 7 months ago

              Did you see 'nasty Attila' earlier? He went all RBJ on that muppet Jas....

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              1. AP
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 7 months ago

                Official warning too! Even i didn't get one of those during my CP loggerheads 😉

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                1. jamsiep
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  Ha! For real? From who?

                  I want one of them!!

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                  1. AP
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    From the head honcho himself 8)

                    No link i'm afraid chinmusic.

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                  2. jamsiep
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    Has it all been deleted?

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                  3. chinmusic
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    Shame. I love a good FFS set-to.

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                  4. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    Chinmusic - whilst its Christmas
                    Starts here
                    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2010/12/06/newcastle-sack-hughton/comment-page-1/#comment-1152810

                    and continues with me getting told off here.
                    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2010/12/06/newcastle-sack-hughton/comment-page-2/#comment-1152962

                    Shouldn't have let him wind me up, but Mike Ashley wasn't around to punch.

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                  5. applebonkers
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                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    'they are like wigan to me' was hilarious. why have i never used this saying

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                  6. AP
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                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    Yes bonkers, that was a personal highlight too. 😆

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                  7. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    Ha, I have to say that was pretty good. 🙂

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                  8. Gnu
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    I think you were quite restrained Attila, that little runt can drive you to the edge with his inane crap.

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                2. chinmusic
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  Any chance of a link? I was trying to have a life today.

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                3. Attila the Bum
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  Bah that was undeserved. Grossly undeserved. 🙂

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                  1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    it really was, you hardly said anything to him

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                  2. AP
                    • 16 Years
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                    He was only at stage 5 on the RBJ scale of abuse. It goes to 11.

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                4. Gnu
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                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  Was that what the moderating was about earlier?

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              2. Stat virgin
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                Yeah, made me laugh that you declared that he was the nicest guy on here a few days ago. Jas was clearly wumming, doing a good job of it too

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                1. jamsiep
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                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  Commentators curse, innit...

                  I don't actually think he was wumming to be honest. I've never seen him make a comment that wasn't totally bizarre..

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                  1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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                    15 years, 7 months ago

                    exactlym, thats why he's wumming

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    3. tosey
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      he aint that bad...

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  19. tosey
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    this is borin! i might join the mrs n watch them all die on corrie

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  20. Will
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    • 17 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Just came online. Two thoughts hit me straight after the other:

    1. 'Why the f*** isn't my captain playing tonight???'
    2. 'Reserve captain = Nasri!' 😀

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Meireles is a class player.

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  21. applebonkers
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    seriously if liverpool switch to 4-4-2 permanently it's between babel and n'gog for the other striker spot. hodgson said earlier in the season he intended to try and give babel a chance to prove himself up front. 6.7 mid with liverpool's fixtures. if it happens i'm all over that

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    1. Jax
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      BABEL bandwagon? ahahahahaha

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        he's got the horn tonight, the crowd is on his side (for once!) and hodgson can't help but be impressed. despite n'gog's goal i think it's been all about babel up front so far. the only spanner in the works is it's hard for hodgson to drop out meireles or lucas form the centre when gerrard returns in order to carry on playing 4-4-2

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  22. Johnny Unitas
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    I find Monday night games generally always disappoint me anyway, have no one playing tonight, but whenever I have a big Saturday, and have a player playing on Monday, I always think "sweet, and still X to play on Monday night, I could get 6-10 more!" always ends up as 1 or -1 or something for me, I almost see having a big big Saturday as a bad omen the rest of the weekend will be pants. Nearly came through yesterday with Simpson/Piquionne, only for Bardsley to throw me a bone!

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    1. Little Lukin
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Same here about the Monday, I think I've had 2 red cards and now this Torres debacle, keep it all for the weekend I reckon

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  23. Little Lukin
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    I asked my 2 year old son who would win Newcastle or West Brom (he said West Brom). So then I thought he was just repeating the team I was saying last so I asked Sunderland or West Ham (he said Sunderland). £60 richer I asked him Liverpool or Aston Villa, he went with Liverpool. Eager to see how long his streak lasts!

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      ask him when a good team is playing away...

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      1. Little Lukin
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah true he's gone for all the home teams so far??

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      now paul the octopus has passed away there is a vacancy out there

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      1. Little Lukin
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I haven't mentioned draw to him yet

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    3. Marknlard
      • 17 Years
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      Little Lukin, learn from the Simpsons. When he finds out you've been profitting from his gift it will ultimately lead to a showdown- does he want you to win or lose?

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      1. TommyK
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Just what I was thinking.....

        Ah well, you can always buy his love....... 😀

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  24. The Dynamo
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    martin jol left ajax. would he consider newcastle job?

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  25. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Stephen Ireland How Does it Work?

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  26. Attila the Bum
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    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Corry is about to go mental. Forget that Liverpool tosh. 🙂

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    1. 5678
      15 years, 7 months ago

      You've certainly been domesticated! :p

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
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        Well under the thumb 🙂

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    2. Jax
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      obvious you don't have anyone playing tonight...

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    3. tosey
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      +1 liverpools off until 2nd half

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  27. Stat virgin
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    That was a perfect example of "Kuyt's second touch is always a tackle" .. three times in a row

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    1. Zod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      A tackle or a header.

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      1. Stat virgin
        • 16 Years
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        OR both in one

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  28. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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    I think Liverpool should cash-in on Torres, while they still can...

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    1. Mogsy
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      15 years, 7 months ago

      +1 just because his wife is having a baby he can't play football for a couple of hours. Torres should be sold and get in some players that will play through hell and back for a game with Liverpool. Sell Torres in January he obviously has no passion for the game. He is so miserable anyway his wife probably said go play football and it was just too cold for him nothing to do with babies.

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  29. Stat virgin
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    Lucas all over the 3 bps

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
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      Good player.

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      1. Zod
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Looks much better in a 4-4-2, than one of the 2 in a 4-2-3-1.

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      2. Jax
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        never thought i'd hear someone say that. but it's true he is one of the most improved players this season no doubt...

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  30. Locarno
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    15 years, 7 months ago

    Apologies for the long cut and paste...

    No sooner was Chris Hughton shown the door than punters were scrambling to bet on his replacement, with Alan Pardew the man receiving all the attention.

    Victor Chandler are currently offering the best odds for the recently dismissed Southampton manager at 2.75. A flood of money has also seen his odds trimmed with Bet 365 to 2.25 and Ladbrokes to 1.80.

    Martin O'Neill could prove tempting with Victor Chandler the best on offer at 5.00.

    Another out of work manager Alan Curbishley is the bookmakers third choice early on at 11.00 with Victor Chandler, yet only 4.00 with Ladbrokes. Lee Clark and Peter Beardsley are available at 26.00 generally.

    If you fancy Alan Shearer to have another crack at the job you can 26.00 with Bet 365, while Steve Bruce is 41.00 with both Bet 365 and Paddy Power.

    A host of ex-England mangers are quoted with Steve McClaren trading at a best price of 41.00 with Paddy Power, Kevin Keegan 51.00 generally, Terry Venables 41.00 with Paddy Power and Glen Hoddle 51.00 with Bet 365.

    Some other names nibbled at in the market today are Martin Jol, 41.00 into 17.00 with Paddy Power and West Bromwich Albion manager Roberto Di Matteo, 29.00 into 21.00 with Stan James.

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      jol just left ajax. banker.

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Oh dear oh dear.

      It's like a big pond where poor managers swim around in the hope that some deluded club owner will come around to snap them up.

      Just look at that list, there is a bloody reason why most of them have no job.

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