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Cucurella	CHE	6.0m	47.9%	Unlikely
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Amad	MUN	6.2m	38.2%	Unlikely
Aina	NFO	4.7m	38.0%	Unlikely
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Spence	TOT	4.2m	79.8%	Unlikely
Areola	WHU	4.3m	78.7%	Unlikely
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Travers	EVE	4.3m	72.9%	Unlikely
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Johnson	CRY	6.5m	66.0%	Unlikely
Slonina	CHE	3.9m	65.3%	Unlikely
Rayan	BOU	5.6m	62.6%	Unlikely
Potts	WHU	4.4m	63.0%	Unlikely
Trossard	ARS	6.6m	63.0%	Unlikely
Steele	BHA	4.2m	62.1%	Unlikely
Moore	SUN	3.9m	60.2%	Unlikely
Mbeumo	MUN	8.6m	59.5%	Unlikely
Fabianski	WHU	4.5m	60.2%	Unlikely
Milenković	NFO	5.1m	60.2%	Unlikely
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9 May 2011 1307 comments

Andy

A solitary game tonight for the Dugout Discussion as the last fixture of the [regular] gameweek keeps our cockles occupied this evening. “King” Kenny Dalglish has brought his Liverpool side on a jaunt down to London and seems to have left Andy Carroll in Toddington services – the gargantuan Geordie is nowhere to be seen. Fulham also leave a rather large striker out. For them it’s Bobby Zamora; he at least gets a place on the bench though. Full line-ups are…

Fulham XI: Schwarzer; Baird, Hughes, Hangeland, Salcido; Davies, Murphy, Sidwell, Dempsey; Gudjohnsen, Dembele.
Liverpool Xi: Reina; Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Flanagan; Spearing, Lucas; Maxi, Meireles, Kuyt; Suarez.

The Dugout Discussion will be open through all the action as Liverpool look to assert their late charge into a place fit enough to earn them some European football – even if it’s not quite they would have hoped for.

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njfsdkffslkf
14 years, 11 months ago
Some Liverpool supporters are creaming themselves on twitter and bbc.

2011/12 title already wrapped up.
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1. Demí
  14 years, 11 months ago
  *facepalm*
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2. sy
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Long way away from that, some good signings in the summer and being in the top 4 is what should be the aim.
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3. Gargamel
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Being a Liverpool supporter must suck immensely so I'm glad they have something to be glad about
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  1. King Eric, in America
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Give 'em a few days of 'winning the PL next year' ... it'll make events at Blackburn next week easier to bear.
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4. TheHazard
  14 years, 11 months ago
  http://shrani.si/f/2u/cm/13hcv7Fg/2uom26o.jpg
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  1. Damo.
    14 years, 11 months ago
    😆 That's class
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  2. Voronin
    14 years, 11 months ago
    The Arsenal one is funnier and more accurate.
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Kings of Lyon ★
14 years, 11 months ago
Ok Kuyt is in bang hot form but this primarily because Carroll isn't playing. If they play 2 up top Kuyt wond be as effective willl he? or am i just being bitter?
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1. tosey
  14 years, 11 months ago
  he scored against man city when carroll played, unsure if any other games
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2. Spaghetti Hoes
  14 years, 11 months ago
  We wont play 2 up front. Carroll will be the head of a triangle with Suarez on one side and Kuyt/ New Player on the other...but yeah Kuyt's output will be reduced.
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3. Fratboy
  14 years, 11 months ago
  as a Kuyt owner I'd be inclined to disagree 😛
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  1. Kings of Lyon ★
    14 years, 11 months ago
    you would 😉
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4. Gargamel
  14 years, 11 months ago
  It's just an insane hot streak, Carroll or not doesn't matter much imo. He'll never continue like this for much longer and the penalties will be there even with Carroll on the pitch.
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5. Jack Frost
  14 years, 11 months ago
  plus Gerrard (pen taker)absence
  - that's the real reason imo.
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mr messi
14 years, 11 months ago
Glad I bet on Kuyt anytime scorer! And that hit to get rid of Zamora for Odem so far looks good.
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1. Fratboy
  14 years, 11 months ago
  nice man!
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  1. Demí
    14 years, 11 months ago
    She's a girl.
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    1. mr messi
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Well remembered!
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      1. Retro
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Ah, that would explain how you got my Mr Men reference earlier...
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2. Park the bus
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Will prob only benefit you 1 point though....
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SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
14 years, 11 months ago
See Hughes this is what happens when you drop Zamora
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Dave Bauer
14 years, 11 months ago
Not able to watch the game...are those assists correct?

2 for Johnson and the other goal no assist?
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1. Demí
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Yep, that's correct.
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Voronin
14 years, 11 months ago
Anyone know where I can get a list of emoticons and how to do them?

Test :pepper:
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1. Voronin
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Fail. Should have been a dancing pepper.
  
  Test 🙂
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  1. Voronin
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Win. List?
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  2. Gold Monster
    14 years, 11 months ago
    
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    1. Voronin
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Nice.
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2. Demí
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I think this has most of them:
  
  http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
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  1. Voronin
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Cheers. 😳 :smilie: 😛
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    1. Voronin
      14 years, 11 months ago
      I'm giving up on these already!
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    2. Johnny Unitas
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Hmmm, and where is the one for bold and strikethrough and all those, cant find them in that
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      1. Damo.
        14 years, 11 months ago
        http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/character.html
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      2. Demí
        14 years, 11 months ago
        This should help:
        
        http://www.tizag.com/htmlT/htmlstrikethrough.php
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        Johnny Unitas
        14 years, 11 months ago
        cheers boys
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tosey
14 years, 11 months ago
dempsey yellow
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1. Syd.
  14 years, 11 months ago
  would love if he got a 2nd yellow..
  
  i tell you i would love it, i would love it..
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Burly - swear i wont ever (…
14 years, 11 months ago
never got on board the Kuyt and Odemwingie Bandwagons...FAIL of the season. F.O.T.S.

'surely they'l stop scoring' was my reasoning

😥
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King Eric, in America
14 years, 11 months ago
Wasn't the Jamsie/RBJ ban only for 24 hours ... where are they?

Sure hope they're not sitting at some bus stop, discussing the lunacy of Kalou being subbed out for Torres ...
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1. The Bandit
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Nobody was banned.
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  1. King Eric, in America
    14 years, 11 months ago
    'blocked'? Am I using an inaccurate term?
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    1. King Eric, in America
      14 years, 11 months ago
      nvm, I see Jamsie posting below.
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    2. jamsiep
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Temporarily auto-moderated.
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    3. The Bandit
      14 years, 11 months ago
      See below! 🙂
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The Bandit
14 years, 11 months ago
GJ looks likely to bag the main baps if he keeps a cleanie. Already two assists, a goal line clearance and all roung good display. 😉
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1. Demí
  14 years, 11 months ago
  And everyone said he was shit 😉
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  1. Syd.
    14 years, 11 months ago
    He is shit
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    1. Demí
      14 years, 11 months ago
      I know.
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  2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
    14 years, 11 months ago
    even shit players can get big scores lol
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Gargamel
14 years, 11 months ago
Only about 75 players have now scored more Premier League goals than Dirk Kuyt, he's closing in on 50! Not bad for a player we often laugh at
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1. The Bandit
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I only laugh at his face, not his footy! 😀
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2. Get up ya bum
  14 years, 11 months ago
  kuyt's always been the target for much unfair criticism imo. Good to see him getting the plaudits he deserves.
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Back on the horse
14 years, 11 months ago
Well done Maxi-pad, you're on a real streak for the Reds
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Pork Pie Sausage Roll
14 years, 11 months ago
Dirk you're killing me!
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jamsiep
14 years, 11 months ago
The only good thing about this is that Liverpool may be duped into thinking that Maxi is actually good enough, and will continue to play him next season.
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1. Stat virgin
  14 years, 11 months ago
  He's clearly better than Torres
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  1. Damo.
    14 years, 11 months ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_33dbv50f20
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    1. Stat virgin
      14 years, 11 months ago
      That incident was blown out of proportion almost as much as Irish-mug-gate
      
      http://www.gettysburgflag.com/images/irish_mug.jpg
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      1. Damo.
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Are calling me an Irish Mug
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        Damo.
        14 years, 11 months ago
        😆
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      2. Damo.
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Yes it was. And his f*kin Dominatrix Fergie couldn't wait to jump on board
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  2. jamsiep
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Clearly.
    
    I'm just jealous anyway, I wish Chelsea would play football like this. One/two touches, movement all over the pitch, moving the ball at pace. Basically the polar opposite to what Chelsea do. Bah!
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    1. Demí
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Well your line-up does have an average age of 30 to be fair.
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      1. jamsiep
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Not to mention a central midfield trio, who each require about 6 touches to get the ball under control.
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2. Get up ya bum
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Bah you underestimate KK.
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3. The Bandit
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Welcome back! I take it your emails are working now? 😉
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  1. jamsiep
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Yup!
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IceMan DB
14 years, 11 months ago
Suarez should definitely be on for 3 bonus even if he doesn;t get a goal.
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1. Get up ya bum
  14 years, 11 months ago
  +1
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  1. IceMan DB
    14 years, 11 months ago
    But i bet they'll give 3 to maxi, comeon Suarez get on the score sheet!!
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2. The Bandit
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Johnson. 😉
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Syd.
14 years, 11 months ago
OptaJoe.."0 - Fulham have won none of the 63 PL games they've conceded 3+ goals in before today, drawing just 6 of them. Over."

Not too many teams win matches in which they concede 3 goals...
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1. Gargamel
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Not OptaJoe's finest moment
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  1. Syd.
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Agreed..
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  2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    14 years, 11 months ago
    haha
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2. andy85wsm
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Of course they don't, but perhaps they do it sooner than 63 games. They're just going on the situation as it is
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  1. Syd.
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Strangely I can't remember the last 4-3 match I watched 🙁
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Pork Pie Sausage Roll
14 years, 11 months ago
Seeing rivals with Kuyt and Rodriguez in their teams would strike many with angst just now. Crazy times
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1. PFOR
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I wonder if many jumped on the Maxi-wagon after his hat-trick.
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  1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    14 years, 11 months ago
    > 10,000 cretins are currently having their thickness handsomely rewarded!
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    1. SuperDorrans
      14 years, 11 months ago
      How is it thickness? He is playing well and in good form.
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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Tongue-in-cheek dude, chill.
        
        Besides, one hattrick after 33 GWs of doing approximately nothing didn't really make a compelling reason to get him in.
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PFOR
14 years, 11 months ago
So it's looking like Liverpool will get 5th. I doubt Redknapp will lose sleep over that.

From an FPL point of view, it makes Liverpool players slightly less attractive for next season.
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1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I'm a spurs fan n i'm over the moon. Don't fancy the mickey mouse cup next year thanks
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2. Damo.
  14 years, 11 months ago
  To be honest I don't think many Liverpool fans want it either
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3. Voronin
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Does being in Europe at all matter to him? Genuine question. I'm not sure on views. I reckon it would matter to his bosses.
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4. sy
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I don't think it will as this season in the Europa league players like gerrard when fit hardly played in Europe.
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5. Gargamel
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Nobody really wants the Europa League, so finishing sixth should be much better unless you get lots more cash for finishing fifth?
  
  Up until the semi finals it's a waste of a tournament, and even then the players don't care THAT much.
  
  A bit like the FA cup.
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The ghost of a Pug's g…
14 years, 11 months ago
Suarez has been once again liverpools most dangerous player but not scoring. Dirk owners must love this.
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1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
  14 years, 11 months ago
  If Kuyt keeps this up it's not out of the question for him to finish top FPL scorer this season. What a depressing situation that'd be 🙂
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  1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
    14 years, 11 months ago
    HES a player i never put in my team...in this form it would be rude not to!
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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Just can't justify to it myself with his remaining fixtures. I should maybe just bite the bullet as every week for the past 2 months now has been painful!
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  2. TheHazard
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Nah, not if he's playing on the wing like he is tonight.
    
    I'm delighted he's scored, but I wouldn't back him to get many from out on the wing - his form comes from playing up front and taking pens.
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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Cool, not watching the match myself but that provides me with some strength to help stave off any rash knee-jerking to bring him in!
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      1. TheHazard
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Yeah, if I didn't have him I wouldn't be aching to get him in.
        
        It'll be interesting to see the stats after the game, but he was lucky to get his goal.
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Nomar
14 years, 11 months ago
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Gerrard looks a bit miffed by all this?
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1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
  14 years, 11 months ago
  he's a miserable chuff coming out with "as a liverpool player..." soundbites.
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2. big oak
  14 years, 11 months ago
  yeah cnt see how he can fit in this system next year
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  1. Get up ya bum
    14 years, 11 months ago
    he'll be playing a deep box 2 box role like he used to pre benitez. People seem to have forgotten he can defend and play a damn good passing game from deep. I'm wondering where meireles will fit in when we get a good winger or 2.
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3. TheHazard
  14 years, 11 months ago
  he could have had a shave ffs. Redknapp would never look so disheveled.
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Johnny Unitas
14 years, 11 months ago
Christ, please let Fulham score, my rival keeps getting points from Skrtel in the most unlikeliest of fixtures!
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Voronin
14 years, 11 months ago
Colemans jacket and trousers don't match. Nob.
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1. Syd.
  14 years, 11 months ago
  The Beau Brummel of FFS 😉
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Portsmouth Bubblejet
14 years, 11 months ago
I've got Zamora, Hangeland and Suárez. Having looked forward to points from this game, I currently feel like this bloke:

http://nickclegglookingsad.tumblr.com/
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Drip Doctor
14 years, 11 months ago
Kuyt isn't actually OOP at all is he. He's pretty much been stuck on the right for the whole half. Meireles and Maxi have got in the box a lot more.
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1. jamsiep
  14 years, 11 months ago
  +1
  
  He's probably been Liverpool's worst player as well.
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  1. Stat virgin
    14 years, 11 months ago
    James Milner streak of FPL luck recently
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  2. Drip Doctor
    14 years, 11 months ago
    This is the worst i've seen Fulham play aswell. Havn't seen many teams play as bad as this all season.
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SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
14 years, 11 months ago
I want a Fulham goal, so I'm going to back Liverpool -3.
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HST
14 years, 11 months ago
Schwarzer loves Liverpool!
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1. jamsiep
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I know. Kev Phillips - who is a truly awful commentator btw - was saying he was at fault for just the third goal, when he's actually been at fault for all of them.
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  1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
    14 years, 11 months ago
    You got onto the asian handicaps yet mate? Got on Liverpool for the third week running, at -1.0 and -2.0
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    1. jamsiep
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Yeah, I did one on some random Czech team a couple of days ago (recommended on the tips website). It didn't work!
      
      What odds did you get on them this week then?
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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Crazy odds (well at least they look it now). -1.0 was almost 4/1 and -2.0 was about 6/1
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        SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        14 years, 11 months ago
        Maybe i spoke too soon. No more attacking Fulham!!
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    2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      14 years, 11 months ago
      *insert racist joke here*
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2. Nomar
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Wish you'd have told me that before 11:30 on Saturday morning!!!
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3. sy
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Well looking at that second goal I have no idea what he was doing, looks like he was moving out of the way.
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Attila the Bum
14 years, 11 months ago
Erm, just looked and seen Liverpool 3 up and only one point for Suarez. What the frick? I DEMAND POINTS!
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1. Nomar
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I benched him this week so I'll be quite happy if he stays on 1 point.
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  1. Jax
    14 years, 11 months ago
    he'll be on 2 points in 15 mins...
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    1. Nomar
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Not if he gets booked for diving!!! 😀
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2. sy
  14 years, 11 months ago
  He may not have any points but ge has run the 2 centre backs ragged
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3. Johnny Unitas
  14 years, 11 months ago
  Suarez has Rooney-itus, it's generally when every one else is playing really well, and he is playing even better, but just doesn't want to score or just can't get a rub of the green to score
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  1. Jack Frost
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Man is that true, feel like my team is bathed in Rooney cement.
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mir
14 years, 11 months ago
surely liverpool winning will force man city to play a full strength team tomorrow.
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1. Blue Teets
  14 years, 11 months ago
  God if they beat city to 4th that would be amazing and pathetic at the same time.
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2. big oak
  14 years, 11 months ago
  maybe they give richards a run
  
  other than that cnt see any big rotation exept flipping a coin on balotelli/dzeko
  
  i can see johson starting tomorrow and milner the FA cup final because of his physical presence
  
  vieira started everton so wnt start a game again until next year
  
  silva will probably get a 60 min run and be subbed by milner/wright-philips if the draw is secured
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  1. Jax
    14 years, 11 months ago
    Balotelli will start tomorrow Dzeko was awful v everton
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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      14 years, 11 months ago
      Hope so, with my captain Modric likely out i'm gonna be supporting Citeh
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    2. mir
      14 years, 11 months ago
      need 7 points from yaya / silva / dawson so i hope they play and one of them at least get some points other than apperance points
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Jax
14 years, 11 months ago
here comes Zamora...
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1. Ini
  14 years, 11 months ago
  🙁
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Blue Teets
14 years, 11 months ago
This win puts Pool 2nd in the league if the table started when Dalglish took over.
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1. Get up ya bum
  14 years, 11 months ago
  chelsea 1st?
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2. Big Dunc
  14 years, 11 months ago
  I wish the season started in January. We'd be in Champions League every year
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