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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Schade	BRE	6.9m	96.5%	Maybe
Stach	LEE	4.7m	95.9%	Maybe
Truffert	BOU	4.6m	93.8%	Unlikely
Petrović	BOU	4.5m	85.9%	Unlikely
Lammens	MUN	5.0m	85.6%	Unlikely
Mainoo	MUN	4.6m	82.8%	Unlikely
Henderson	CRY	5.0m	80.2%	Unlikely
B.Fernandes	MUN	10.2m	69.6%	Unlikely
Kayode	BRE	4.5m	77.4%	Unlikely
Welbeck	BHA	6.1m	63.8%	Unlikely
A.Becker	LIV	5.4m	77.6%	Unlikely
Gakpo	LIV	7.3m	75.2%	Unlikely
Thiaw	NEW	5.1m	73.8%	Unlikely
Bowen	WHU	7.5m	69.3%	Unlikely
Garner	EVE	5.2m	70.6%	Unlikely
Alderete	SUN	4.1m	73.1%	Unlikely
Rodon	LEE	3.9m	70.0%	Unlikely
Leno	FUL	4.9m	69.2%	Unlikely
Szoboszlai	LIV	7.0m	62.8%	Unlikely
Wan-Bissaka	WHU	4.1m	64.9%	Unlikely
Anderson	NFO	5.5m	64.7%	Unlikely
Mitchell	CRY	5.0m	61.9%	Unlikely
Aït-Nouri	MCI	5.7m	59.3%	Unlikely
Igor Jesus	NFO	5.8m	55.1%	Unlikely
Justin	LEE	3.9m	54.5%	Unlikely
Frimpong	LIV	5.7m	52.9%	Unlikely
Damsgaard	BRE	5.6m	51.4%	Unlikely
Thiago	BRE	7.3m	46.7%	Unlikely
Aaronson	LEE	5.4m	47.8%	Unlikely
Bassey	FUL	4.4m	47.1%	Unlikely
Cucurella	CHE	6.0m	46.7%	Unlikely
Sarr	CRY	6.3m	45.7%	Unlikely
Kelleher	BRE	4.8m	43.0%	Unlikely
Gravenberch	LIV	5.5m	44.2%	Unlikely
Richards	CRY	4.4m	41.1%	Unlikely
Shaw	MUN	4.5m	40.9%	Unlikely
Barry	EVE	5.7m	40.7%	Unlikely
Iwobi	FUL	6.4m	42.0%	Unlikely
Amad	MUN	6.2m	38.3%	Unlikely
Robinson	FUL	4.9m	38.1%	Unlikely

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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Lamadrid	WHU	5.0m	91.9%	Likely
E.Le Fée	SUN	5.0m	100.6%	Very Likely
Tchaouna	BUR	4.9m	101.9%	Very Likely
Carvalho	BRE	4.7m	100.0%	Very Likely
Isidor	SUN	5.1m	99.4%	Maybe
Scott	BOU	5.1m	96.5%	Maybe
Soler	BOU	4.0m	99.5%	Maybe
D.Leon	MUN	4.2m	98.5%	Maybe
Trossard	ARS	6.6m	93.3%	Unlikely
Lucca	NFO	5.5m	93.4%	Unlikely
Lewis-Skelly	ARS	5.1m	92.9%	Unlikely
Clarke	ARS	3.8m	92.6%	Unlikely
Marc Guiu	CHE	4.1m	90.8%	Unlikely
Benitez	CRY	4.0m	90.5%	Unlikely
Haaland	MCI	14.5m	91.3%	Unlikely
Abraham	AVL	6.0m	85.5%	Unlikely
Diakité	BOU	4.2m	88.9%	Unlikely
Pope	NEW	5.1m	86.1%	Unlikely
Rogers	AVL	7.5m	82.6%	Unlikely
Saliba	ARS	6.1m	85.5%	Unlikely
Bruun Larsen	BUR	5.3m	87.1%	Unlikely
Gvardiol	MCI	5.9m	83.0%	Unlikely
Summerville	WHU	5.6m	76.8%	Unlikely
Gyökeres	ARS	8.8m	82.7%	Unlikely
Ramsay	LIV	3.8m	81.5%	Unlikely
Malacia	MUN	3.8m	81.4%	Unlikely
Valdimarsson	BRE	3.9m	81.4%	Unlikely
Weiss	BUR	4.3m	80.2%	Unlikely
Burrowes	AVL	4.4m	79.7%	Unlikely
McAidoo	MCI	4.5m	79.0%	Unlikely
Spence	TOT	4.2m	78.3%	Unlikely
Keane	EVE	4.6m	79.4%	Unlikely
Areola	WHU	4.3m	77.0%	Unlikely
Tarkowski	EVE	5.7m	83.5%	Unlikely
Kevin	FUL	5.8m	76.5%	Unlikely
Travers	EVE	4.3m	72.4%	Unlikely
Strand Larsen	CRY	6.1m	70.6%	Unlikely
Merino	ARS	5.4m	71.7%	Unlikely
Longstaff	LEE	4.8m	70.3%	Unlikely
Piroe	LEE	4.9m	69.7%	Unlikely

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	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Kelleher	BRE	C
No Change	Raya Martin	ARS	B
No Change	Martinez	AVL	C, Vs
No Change	Darlow	LEE	C, Vs, £

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	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	van Dijk	LIV	B
No Change	Gabriel Magalhães	ARS	A
No Change	Hill	BOU	A, £
Up	Thiaw	NEW	B
No Change	O’Reilly	MCI	A, OoP
No Change	Andersen	FUL	B
No Change	Muñoz	CRY	C
No Change	Kayode	BRE	B
No Change	Cash	AVL	C, Vs
No Change	Rodon	LEE	B, Vs, £

Last updated: 20 Mar, 2026 5:57pm

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Bruno Fernandes	MUN	A
Up	Palmer	CHE	C
Up	Gordon	NEW	B
No Change	Wilson	FUL	A
Down	Semenyo	MCI	B
No Change	Dango Ouattara	BRE	B
No Change	Rogers	AVL	C, Vs
No Change	Ismaila Sarr	CRY	B
No Change	Rice	ARS	C
No Change	Tavernier	BOU	B, £
No Change	Anderson	NFO	B, £
No Change	Stach	LEE	B, Vs, £

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	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Haaland	MCI	B
No Change	Thiago	BRE	B
No Change	Ekitiké	LIV	B
No Change	João Pedro	CHE	A
No Change	Bowen	WHU	B
No Change	Calvert-Lewin	LEE	C, Vs

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[sbu_large_image] FFS Cup

The FFS Cup IV – The Semi-Finals

12 May 2011 454 comments

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The penultimate Gameweek of the season sees four Fantasy Managers go head to head in the Fantasy Football Scout Cup IV Semi-Finals. A win here not only earns them a place in the Grand Final next week, but guarantees them one of the two big prizes.

With a recap of how the Quarter-Finals played out, here is how the Semis line-up…

Semi-Final #1 – Ninja_Fit_Saints Vs. redsareback

Ranked 1,576th in the world, Ninja_Fit_Saints is the second highest ranked competitor left. Last time out he beat elana_s 49 – 37, with Ben Foster’s nine saves, Chris Samba’s Bonus Points and David Silva’s double Gameweek being the key differences. That winning margin could have been wider had Ninja Fit Saints played his top-scorer Charles N’Zogbia.

His opponent, redsareback, must’ve been extremely confident of victory last Saturday lunchtime when the Fantasy Premier League squads updated, revealing a 36 point lead over Joel Farthing before a ball had been kicked. But watching that enormous lead erode away must’ve been equally unsettling. With goals from Nemanja Vidic, Thomas Hitzlsperger, Javier Hernandez, Luis Suarez and Peter Odemwingie, the tie finished surprisingly close. A David Silva goal on Tuesday night would have been enough to complete the shock victory, but as it was it ended 39 – 30.

Semi-Final #2 – Biscanators Vs. Mr Hat

Making his way into the Semi-Final, Biscanators beat competition favourite daniel.mf 65 – 60, in easily the rounds highest-scoring tie. Matching each other almost blow-for-blow, it was again those Foster saves and that Vidic goal that proved the difference.

With daniel.mf out-of-the-picture, it falls to Mr Hat to be the highest-ranked Fantasy Manager in the Semis, despite a red arrow this week. Falling to a still very impressive position of 819th in the world, he overcame hamyai_hamyai 49 – 48 by the narrowest of margins.

I’m sure you’ll all join me in wishing our Semi-Finalists the best of luck for this coming Gameweek. I’ll bring you the results, along with a preview of the Grand Final, next week.

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King Nil Miss ✩
14 years, 10 months ago
Hi all!

I need some information that I haven´t cracked yet.
How does the players form rate work?
Average for past 5 weeks or so?
Choosing form captain emergency will pick the player with best average in the past 5 weeks, current GW included?

(sorry if I didn´t make myself clear, bit of hangover, please correct me if you feel the need)

Thank you!
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1. jamsiep
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Average from all games in the past month, I think.
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  1. King Nil Miss ✩
    14 years, 10 months ago
    So is the last month that counts?
    But current GW included right?
    (or else it would be too easy to choose vice captain)
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    1. jamsiep
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Ermmmm....
      
      The next matches are on the 14th of May, so the form showing at the moment will be the average score across all matches since the 14th of April.
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      1. King Nil Miss ✩
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Ok! NotoriousDre just made it clear..current GW doesn´t count. TY
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  2. NotoriousDRE
    14 years, 10 months ago
    RE: emergency Capt - look at ya "data view" when u on ya "my team" page. Ya capt will be the person with the highest form before the round starts...
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    1. King Nil Miss ✩
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Many thanks!
      I wasn´t sure it worked like that but you just made it clear..
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    2. tessa271
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Thanks for that been trying to work that out all season
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Leeds-Utd
14 years, 10 months ago
Modric-vdv-nzog-yaya.(ferg)
Good enough?or do i need a change?thinking maybe hitz-or-maxi.
Who to take out??or leave it?wat ur advice lads...plz&thanks.
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1. Marknlard
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Modric out. No need for him AND VDV now.
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Kings of Lyon ★
14 years, 10 months ago
Right transfers sorted -

Bent - Tevez
Yaya - Nzogbia

Any objections?
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1. Leeds-Utd
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Looks good to me...
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2. Fratboy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Where's Perch?
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  1. Kings of Lyon ★
    14 years, 10 months ago
    😉
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    1. Gold Monster
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Tevez? No way Jose!
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3. jamsiep
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Yes!
  
  Tevez may not play, and there's no sense in getting rid of Yaya before a home game with Stoke.
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  1. Kings of Lyon ★
    14 years, 10 months ago
    The only sense of getting rid of yaya was to get tevez. I thought Tevez being back fit should be a guarenteed starter. hmmm
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    1. seanie3
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Are these 2 free transfers or are you taking a 4 point hit..
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TommyK
14 years, 10 months ago
Ha- found that article that "the man, the myth, the legend....." was talking about:

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2337513,00.html

Hilariously bad! 😆
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1. Blyth Spartans
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Wow what a moron.
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2. Science Boy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  "For Manchester United, of course, it's entirely different. A trip to London for Mancunians, whether for a footballing occasion or at any other time, is hugely exciting - all those grand buildings and bright lights and shops with their own electricity. They love all that."
  
  😆
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  1. herman murman
    14 years, 10 months ago
    there are no utd fans in manchester
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    1. Science Boy
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Oh yeah Salford is it...
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  2. King Eric, in America
    14 years, 10 months ago
    "The more you think about it, the more you realise that we were wise to make our excuses and duck out early."
    
    😀
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Egg noodle
14 years, 10 months ago
Who are the best 3 defenders for the next 2 GWs? no team has 2 home games 🙁
Terry is probably one of them, but other two?
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1. IceMan DB
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Lescott, Smalling and some Chelsea defender.
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2. TO
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Any ManUnited Defender
  Lescott
  Skrtel
  Elokobi
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IceMan DB
14 years, 10 months ago
Nzogbia
Malouda
Lampard (-4)

Who do you think is the best choice for the week? (Will captain Lamps if i get him)
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1. Blyth Spartans
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Nzogbia is the most important player to get in if you dont have him i believe. Lampard will be my captain however, as i already have him.
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  1. IceMan DB
    14 years, 10 months ago
    Yeah but i only have Drogba for Chelsea coverage and i'm not even sure if he's gonna start, really don't wanna miss out on a Newcastle rout. Closest rival who's seven points behind also has Malouda.
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    1. Blyth Spartans
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Hmm in your position get malouda.
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      1. IceMan DB
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Cheers Mick
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TO
14 years, 10 months ago
Arsenal Fans:
Ryo Miyaichi to make 1st team next season?
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1. herman murman
  14 years, 10 months ago
  is that an after shave. Is it nice?
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2. Science Boy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  *YouTubes' Ryo Miyaichi*
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3. pompeyfan
  14 years, 10 months ago
  No chance. He is doing very well for Feyenoord here, but he won't be allowed a work permit. Probably have to be loaned out for 2 or 3 years.
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  1. TO
    14 years, 10 months ago
    Ohh thanks, last i heard was he was on loan and doing well. Assumed he would be with arsenal summer because we need all the help we can get
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    1. pompeyfan
      14 years, 10 months ago
      He is doing very well, but mainly as he is shining in a really poor Feyenoord team. He is absolutely miles away from being good enough to play in the premiership. For instance he is a lot more lightweight even than Rosicky.
      
      He will need to play 75% of games for Japan or somehow pick up a Dutch passport in the next 2 years (not going to happen)
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4. moss
  14 years, 10 months ago
  As far as I know from what I've read is that he won't get a work permit for next season so will stay at Fey one more season.
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herman murman
14 years, 10 months ago
aftershave
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1. Kings of Lyon ★
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Celtic fan:
  
  Islam Faruz to make the first team next season. He will be the new Larsson. I think he will be the only celtic player I actually like.
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  1. herman murman
    14 years, 10 months ago
    just call me Herman or hermy if you buy me a pint.
    I have to check him out. don't know anything about him
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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Hahaha, I wasnt meaning that cheekyily was just TBOGGIE wrote 'arsenal fan' Hermy is good enough and i owe you a pint.
      
      Yeahhi seen him at the vicory shield last season and the boy is something else. wee somilian/scottish kid
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      1. herman murman
        14 years, 10 months ago
        good man. read a wee bit about him there. hope he's as good as they say. Old firm have to bring players through now. Can't go out and buy the best.
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        Kings of Lyon ★
        14 years, 10 months ago
        I agree, I think because of what tommy burns done for him and his family he wont be happy turning his back on celtic. Its a shame that the tv money dictates so much these days in the early 2000's when sky was paying us a fortune we could compete
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        herman murman
        14 years, 10 months ago
        hopefully he will. i have a feeling that the bubble is goin to burst in the premiership in the next few years. things can't go on the way they have been. Players gettin paid funny money and teams living in debt.
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        Kings of Lyon ★
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Its going to be a sad day for football, but I agree, some point in the future the money will dry up and the bank will want their loans repayed and then I reckon Arsenal will dominate ennglish football... maybe a bit too far there. but I think that will happen.
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Mulder
14 years, 10 months ago
Do i keep Silva or go for Nzogbia. Wouldn't mind having Silva, can see him getting returns both at home vs Stoke and Bolton away. Just worried that he might be rested and get a 10 min runout against Stoke. Thoughts?
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1. Enrique
  14 years, 10 months ago
  keep, Nzog might do alright this week but cant see much next week
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Enrique
14 years, 10 months ago
Leaders got Lamps i havent do i have to break my back to get him in or just gamble and go malouda?
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1. IceMan DB
  14 years, 10 months ago
  You need to be different to catch him so go for Malouda!
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  1. Enrique
    14 years, 10 months ago
    Thats what im thinking, cheers
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  2. Fratboy
    14 years, 10 months ago
    This^
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alfast1c
14 years, 10 months ago
Hello people. As many here iam in lead 6 points from my rival and its really important to stay where iam cause steaks are big! So really could use an advice.

My team:
Foster(Harper)
Luiz-Djourou-Kolarov(Smalling-Kelly)

VDV-A.Young-Lampard-Silva-Adam

RVP-Odemwingie(Caroll)

My rival:
Cech(Stockdale)
Zabaleta-Huth-Vidic-Clichy-Assou Ekotto

Dempsey-Kuyt-Yaya Toure-Walcott-VDV

Pavlyuchenko-Bent-DJ Campbell

Soooo... Was thinking A.Young>N'Zogbia and/or Caroll>Suarez for -4? Captain Lamps or RVP(whats safer option)?

Yay or nay for both transfers? Or just 1st? Or any other better idea? Again, i have 6 pts lead.
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1. Dragan Stojkovic
  14 years, 10 months ago
  How big are the steaks? 24 oz?!
  
  I would not take a hit if you're only 6 points ahead. Maybe just do Young to Kuyt to cover him. His forward line looks fairly shocking so you should be fine.
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jimmythegent
14 years, 10 months ago
Heres my defence

coleman, luiz, walker, carr, kelly

ive smashed my league to pieces, 100 points ahead, worth taking a 4 point hit for a defender this week or just ride it out?

I can afford coleman > any defender, thinking baines

cheers guys
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1. alfast1c
  14 years, 10 months ago
  If ure 100 lead... u can chill now and do whatever u want 🙂
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2. Fratboy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  I made that exact transfer 🙂
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3. Freshy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  G Johnson
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  1. jimmythegent
    14 years, 10 months ago
    thanks for the advice guys, guess i just want to go higher in the overall rankings too, currently in top 3000
    
    probably going to go Baines, Johnson or maybe Vidic for a one weeker
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MADE IN CHARLTON
14 years, 10 months ago
JOKES

Anyone have any funny, but concise ones?
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1. Funkyav
  14 years, 10 months ago
  check out sickipedia, dark but funny
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2. Henry Hill
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Girlfriend left me yesterday. Said I was totally obsessed with football.
  
  Pity. I'd been with her 5 seasons.
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  1. Granville
    14 years, 10 months ago
    ..... or if you like, 190 gameweeks.
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    1. Marknlard
      14 years, 10 months ago
      I'm going to be saying that about Kolarov one day.
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3. Freshy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Little Johnny goes to his health education class.
  The teacher shows a line drawing of a man and woman nude
  and points to the female breasts. She asks if anyone knows
  what these are? After much giggling about Little Suzie
  raises her hand and the teacher calls on her. Suzie says
  "Those are breasts and my mommy has 2 of them." "Thats
  good Suzie" says the teacher. Next the teacher points to
  the mans penis and asks what this is. Little Johnny waves
  his hands wildly and being the only one responding the
  teacher calls on him. "Thats a penis and my daddy has 2 of them"
  says Little Johnnie. The children laugh and the teacher tells
  Little Johnnie he must be mistaken. Little Johnnie says
  "No Your wrong." "He has a little one he goes wee with and a
  big one that he brushes mommies teeth with.
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seanie3
14 years, 10 months ago
Need some help, any advice on my team, looking at 2 transfers (one -4 hit) to chase a lead..

Who should I captain?
Was thinking Yaya for adam/Nzogbia & Rooney for Suarez or silva for nzogbia/adam & Carroll for Suarez

Foster

Luiz, Baines, Cahill
Silva, Yaya, VDV, Kuyt
Van Persie (C), Rooney, Carroll

Subs
Begovic, Djourou, Barton, Foley
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Science Boy
14 years, 10 months ago
Just watched video on YouTube of Bergkamp....genius
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SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
14 years, 10 months ago
Anyone backed the tip? Kicks off in a few minutes.
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1. seanie3
  14 years, 10 months ago
  what was the tip!!
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  1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    14 years, 10 months ago
    JJK Jyvaskyla to win. Hurry if you're doing it, kicks off at 4.30.
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    1. Science Boy
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Lucky I didn't see your post 30 seconds earlier!!
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Jonah Takalua
14 years, 10 months ago
Foster
RJ Luiz(wont play) Lescott(may not play)
VDV(suspect may get benched) Yaya(may not play) lamps (c) Adam
RVP Odemwingie Rooney (imo unlikely to play 90 if at all)

subs Bego Djourou (may be dropped for verm) Dawson Modric

any ideas for a transfer?

Thankee
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1. herman murman
  14 years, 10 months ago
  wild card
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2. J0E
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Glass half full time...
  
  VDV won't be benched...no reason to. Lescott is still one of only two passable central defenders at Man City. Rooney will play....champ league final isn't for a while.
  also ...Schillachi/Kosielny are more likely to make way for Verm. Why drop Djourou?
  
  If I was you I'd want some Liverpool love. Is Modric for Kuyt doable? Failing that how about a nice reliable Luiz (who will be dropped) move to Baines.
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  1. Jonah Takalua
    14 years, 10 months ago
    ta
    
    i have a mil in bank, i am thinkin roon to betty suarez
    
    or modric to hiltz or zogbia
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    1. J0E
      14 years, 10 months ago
      modric to zogbia sounds like a good one. I'm not sure about dumping Roon before Blackburn.
      
      Basically whoever you get in should be a sound proposition over two weeks...as the final week will see some serious rotation.
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alfast1c
14 years, 10 months ago
Hello people. As many here iam in lead 6 points from my rival and its really important to stay where iam cause steaks are big! So really could use an advice.

My team:
Foster(Harper)
Luiz-Djourou-Kolarov(Smalling-Kelly)

VDV-A.Young-Lampard-Silva-Adam

RVP-Odemwingie(Caroll)

My rival:
Cech(Stockdale)
Zabaleta-Huth-Vidic-Clichy-Assou Ekotto

Dempsey-Kuyt-Yaya Toure-Walcott-VDV

Pavlyuchenko-Bent-DJ Campbell

Soooo… Was thinking A.Young>N’Zogbia and/or Caroll>Suarez for -4? Captain Lamps or RVP(whats safer option)?

Yay or nay for both transfers? Or just 1st? Or any other better idea? Again, i have 6 pts lead.>
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1. Freshy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  VDV>N’Zogbia and/or Caroll>Suarez
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  1. seanie3
    14 years, 10 months ago
    Hi Freshy, can you take a look at my team just above this posting and give me some advice, cheers
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Freshy
14 years, 10 months ago
Wonder why VDV is #4 on the midfielders watchlist.
Looks like a horse thats run a few too many races.
Im dumping him today before his price drops.
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1. 1966 was a great year for E…
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Unless you really need that 0.1, I'd wait in case we get any useful team / injury news on Friday - might influence who you get in for him.
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herman murman
14 years, 10 months ago
what do u think about rooney should i get rid for suarez
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1. 1966 was a great year for E…
  14 years, 10 months ago
  I'm looking at either Drogs or Suarez in for Rooney, leaning towards Drogs atm.
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Attila the Bum
14 years, 10 months ago
Afternoon all.
Just came on to have a little gripe: Having the FA Cup Final before the league season has finished is shite. Whoever thought of that should be forced to lick a dogs bum.
The end.
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1. jamsiep
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Moreover, having the FA Cup immediately after the United game, where they'll have wrapped up the title, is absolutely ludicrous.
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2. Freshy
  14 years, 10 months ago
  my dogs seem to like to lick their bum
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3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Oh well. It's only 2 small clubs involved 😉
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jamsiep
14 years, 10 months ago
Random question: Obviously it was before my time, but were United considered the biggest club in the country prior to the advent of the Premier League?
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1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
  14 years, 10 months ago
  No and they're still not because Liverpool have won 5 European cups...
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2. Marknlard
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Pretty much, yes.
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  1. Attila the Bum
    14 years, 10 months ago
    Really? Liverpool were more successful and arguably had a larger fan base
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    1. Marknlard
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Taking into account the fact that Utd hadn't won the league for 25 odd years, and Liverpool were caning it, Man U were still challenging them for biggest club. I guessed fanbase is what this was based on, but they also did pretty well for glamour big-name players for a club that only won the FA Cup.
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      1. Marknlard
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Basically, I reckon Liverpool were the biggest and Man U second. I'd have put them above Everton and Arsenal, despite their comparative success (Arsenal's only coming very late 80s).
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        Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Yeah I'd agree with that.
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    2. Granville
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Nope since the 50's United have had a bigger fan base.
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3. Attila the Bum
  14 years, 10 months ago
  No not at all. Liverpool were. Arsenal were big too and Leeds were doing alright. Mid 80's Everton were the best side.
  United were still well supported (though more locally) and relatively successful though.
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  1. jamsiep
    14 years, 10 months ago
    So, is there an argument to be had that United were just lucky that the beginning of their dominance coincided with the advent of Premier League, as well as Sky television?
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    1. Attila the Bum
      14 years, 10 months ago
      Well I wouldn't quite go that far. As MnL said above United were still a powerful club. The thing they were most 'lucky' in was Mark Robins scoring in the FA Cup to save Ferguson's career.
      Ferguson has been the key reason why they have achieved what they have.
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      1. J0E
        14 years, 10 months ago
        they were also lucky that alot of their home grown talent...and by that I mean proper talent that ended up dominating their side even to this day emerged at that time.
        
        How many teams could boast a crop of Giggs, scholes, beckham, neville brothers...even nicky butt was a regular for a while.
        
        According to the Jamie Carragher theory if Graham Souness hadn't become Liverpool manager their dominance may have continued. ...maybe, good players help though.
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        Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        It's how those young players are used and brought on that counts. Ferguson has no rivals in his ability to nurture young players and change them into superstars. Look at Michael Owen, overused and overdepended on as a youngster the prime of his career has been ruined by injuries.
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    2. Marknlard
      14 years, 10 months ago
      They were fortunate that it coincided, but they would have won the league anyway. Changing the name from Divison 1 to Premier League made no difference, and the Sky money didn't have an effect for a good few years.
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      1. jamsiep
        14 years, 10 months ago
        But did the initial couple of title wins, with football now being televised much more often and throughout the world, not partially create the subsequent dominance?
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        Marknlard
        14 years, 10 months ago
        I still don't think so, because for the first few years of the Premier League it was nothing like now. English clubs were nowhere near CL finals, it happened later on when the TV money started getting bigger.
        
        Utd capitalised on it like no other club. Even things like making sure they had the biggest stadium when rule changes came in for clubs to keep all of the attendance money instead of splitting with the away team.
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        1966 was a great year for E…
        14 years, 10 months ago
        The lack of success in the CL was partly due to the ban following Heysel, and partly (at least for Utd) because of the 3 foreigner rule, with Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish counted as foreign. We dropped Schmeichel for some of our early CL games!
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        Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        I remember an early incarnation of Championship Manager having the three foreigner rule. I think Gazza was at Lazio in it too.
        
        Jeezas I'm getting old.
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        1966 was a great year for E…
        14 years, 10 months ago
        I had Championship Manager Italia, that was great!
        
        Also getting old 🙁
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        jamsiep
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Fair enough, cheers.
        
        United fans always talk about how their wealth has been created by their success, unlike Chelsea and City, just wondering how much of an influence the Premier League era has had on that. Prior to the PL, was English football televised much abroad?
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        Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        As Granville says below the main focus was on the FA Cup. (Incidentally 1988 was possibly my favourite cup final) 🙂
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        Granville
        14 years, 10 months ago
        It's starts off as England being the spiritual home of football, and in the fifties had a great national side, then followed the Busby Babes, then the Munich disaster. Loads of media coverage.
        Bobby Charlton and George Best were 2 of the most famous footballers in the world and they started to market themselves from this point. Going on tours etc.
        The clear indication of how well supported they were was evident when they went down to the 2nd division and broke all the crowd records which still exist to this day.
        Even though they weren't as successful as Liverpool they were breaking transfer records in the 80's and early 90's.
        TV broadcasting and then the premier league have just accelerated their popularity.
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        Marknlard
        14 years, 10 months ago
        It was barely televised in the UK. Think it was the mid80s when the first league game was broadcast (bit before my time that).
        
        You really can't look at the game today and compare it with pre-Sky. Utd didn't have the big cash injection of City and Chelsea, but with the headstart they had on everyone else it's the only way there could be competition. It's a bit of a monster, but you could easily argue that it's Utd's ruthlessness that led to it.
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        Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        I think it's safe to say Manchester United have deserved their success......whether their fans deserve it is another matter...... 😛
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        Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Obviously the interest in the English league was accelerated by Sky to a degree. But it was always the most followed league in the world, albeit of a lower standard than the Italian league.
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        Granville
        14 years, 10 months ago
        The initial interest in English football was generated by the FA cup final. It was beamed around the world since the early 70's and became the most watched football game after the world cup final.
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        Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Ahhh back when the FA Cup mattered and before United ruined it by playing their reserves 😛
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        jamsiep
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Or not even playing at all... 😉
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        1966 was a great year for E…
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Yeah, but at least we'll always have the memories of the Club World Cup. Or the World Club Championship. Whatever it was called, and whoever we played, it was well worth it 😕
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        Granville
        14 years, 10 months ago
        I believe Chelsea won that FA Cup when United pulled out. So we should put an asterisk next to that win.
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        Gargamel
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Didn't know that. Shame then that the FA cup seems to be losing in status. To me it doesn't look like players care too much about it before the semi finals anymore. Bit like the Europa League.
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        Granville
        14 years, 10 months ago
        The invent of the Champions League is the biggest reason for the dwindling popularity of the FA Cup.
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4. J0E
  14 years, 10 months ago
  no, Liverpool were. I'm of an age and everyone at my school who was sheep during the 80s was a Liverpool fan....shame for them as they missed out on Brighton's 1983 cup run (which admittedly ended at the feet of the soon to be biggest club in England)
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  1. jamsiep
    14 years, 10 months ago
    And Smith must score? 😛
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    1. J0E
      14 years, 10 months ago
      indeed...if he had perhaps Brighton would have become the biggest side in England. 😉
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  14 years, 10 months ago
  No. Hadn't won the title for 26 years before the 1993 win. We were still the most supported club, though.
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  1. jamsiep
    14 years, 10 months ago
    Most supported in England? Or throughout the entire world?
    
    And what about the richest club?
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    1. Marknlard
      14 years, 10 months ago
      There was no such thing as a richest club. Seriously, it was never mentioned apart from when referring to the Italians or a club going bankrupt.
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      1. Attila the Bum
        14 years, 10 months ago
        True. The only times I heard of a club being 'rich' was just referring to Juventus
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        1966 was a great year for E…
        14 years, 10 months ago
        'Lure of the Lira' 🙂
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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
      14 years, 10 months ago
      I think in England is was pretty close between Liverpool and Utd, but Utd probably had more global fans. I'm not basing this on any figures btw, just how it seemed at the time.
      
      Your point about Utd being lucky that our peroid of dominance coincided with the PL and Sky money is pretty much spot on.
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      1. Marknlard
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Yes, and lucky to get amazing youth talent at the right time, as Jonty says. But also whoever you support, no one can deny that Utd made the most of their luck. You aren't lucky for 20 years.
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        jamsiep
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Not arguing that it's 'luck' so to speak, just that United's dominance came at a time where the benefit (in terms of revenue and creating a global appeal) of being the top side in England was the greatest, because of the advent of the Premier League.
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        Marknlard
        14 years, 10 months ago
        Yeah, I know what you mean. The Premier League were certainly more interested in overseas markets than the Football League.
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6. jamsiep
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Alright lads, cheers for the responses!
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J0E
14 years, 10 months ago
fake lucas is on fire

"Luis is buzzing, but wanted to be sure he played well. He asked Kenny how he did. Kenny just started necking Sammy Lee right there and then."

"Thats how you played, wee man, thats how you played".
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Button Phobic
14 years, 10 months ago
One transfer left this season. Rival is 10 points behind.
My team
Hart
Luis Huth Baines
VDV Nani silva Young Arshavin
RVP Bent

nearest rival's team
Gomez
Kompany ivanovic Cole Coleman
VDV Nasri Mereles
RVP Sturridge Hernandez

Whats my bet move lads
1) Bent > Sturridge (to break even with Sturridge points)
2) Arsh > Kuyt
3) Bent > Suarez
4) do something else!
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1. Team Hayemaker
  14 years, 10 months ago
  his team is humptious...Young->'The Hitz'/N'Zogbia
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Mak_Gold
14 years, 10 months ago
Should I buy Maxi or N'Zog for Silva?And should I take a hit to do Luiz->Baines as well?(My other DFs are Djourou,Coleman,Simpson and Jiranek.)Will Luiz definitely be benched?Because if he starts,maybe I can leave him in and do Silva->Maxi/Kuyt,VdV->N'Zog for -4.Thoughts?
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Demí
14 years, 10 months ago
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1386369/Sergio-Buquets-charged-racist-comments-Marcelo.html

Sergio Busquets has been charged by UEFA over allegations that he directed racist comments at Marcelo.

if found guilty, Busquets could be suspended from the Champions League final against Manchester United at Wembley on May 28.
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1. Granville
  14 years, 10 months ago
  They took their time didn't they.
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2. Attila the Bum
  14 years, 10 months ago
  One less diving cheating twonk. Now if we can just get rid of Alves, Pedro, Nani and Rooney we might be able to enjoy the game.
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3. jamsiep
  14 years, 10 months ago
  If there's any justice then he should be banned.
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4. Ini
  14 years, 10 months ago
  How convenient. Waited so long after the second leg.
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  1. jamsiep
    14 years, 10 months ago
    Can't for the life of me understand why they took so long. All they needed to do was look at the footage and it's immediately obvious!
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  2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    14 years, 10 months ago
    They were to busy fighting corruption.
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    1. chinmusic
      14 years, 10 months ago
      That's Fifa
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  3. Ini
    14 years, 10 months ago
    I just wish that if had to be banned, it should have been for the second leg. It's not like more evidence is pouring in. Massive loss if he get's banned..
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    1. chinmusic
      14 years, 10 months ago
      He'a a racist pig. It would be good for football for him to be banned.
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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        14 years, 10 months ago
        And how can he say things like that when, on his own team, he has Eric Abidal, Seydou Keita, Dani Alves? Prick.
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SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
14 years, 10 months ago
Good news everyone. The tip's losing. Ughhhh
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The Gambler.
14 years, 10 months ago
Which Man U defenders will play last 2 league games?
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1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Fabio and VDS imo.
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2. Demí
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Smalling IMO.
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3. The Rock
  14 years, 10 months ago
  Hard to know if any 1 defender will play both games.
  
  Best shouts are Smalling and Fabio.
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Mak_Gold
14 years, 10 months ago
Silva->Maxi/N'Zog(??),Luiz->Baines for -4?Yay or nay?Or just do the first one,avoid the hit and hope Luiz starts?Other option is to do Silva->Maxi/Kuyt,VdV->N'Zog.
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Bob.
14 years, 10 months ago
Team for this gw.
Hart (Foster)
Luiz Kolarov Djourou (Kaboul Huth)
Adam OHara Lampard Silva (VdV)
Odem Suarez RvP(c)

Thinking of either doing A or B. What do ye think?
A) Kolarov/Luiz to Baines/G.Cahill and Silva to Nzogbia - 4 pts.
B) Save transfer
With the news Gallas may miss rest of season perhaps Kaboul will make first team again for final game of season? Not sure anout Huth though! Defence looks like the only weak spot I dont really need to change my midfield though, but id like the Zog!
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