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Pre-Season Guide Updated

24 July 2011 1548 comments
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Saturday brought a whole raft of pre-season friendlies with many of the Premier League top guns stretching sinews.

Gervinho’s brace on his Arsenal debut offered an early warning sign to the chaos he can cause defences – enough to have Arsene Wenger purring in post-match anticipation. Fantasy Managers will be stroking chins, pondering the merits of the Ivorian, perturbed no doubt by his classification as a Fantasy forward.

United overcame the heat to earn another stateside victory over Chicago Fire – Wayne Rooney again on the scoresheet. Liverpool meanwhile, slipped to a surprising reversal on Humberside, Nigel Pearson’s Hull City humbling the Liverpool revolution despite debuts for Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson.

Rafael Van der Vaart’s abilities and Fantasy potential is undoubted; his brace in Tottenham’s 3-0 win over Orlando Pirates will surely have him blink brighter on our pre-season radars. Enough to cause an initial squad overhaul? Tottenham’s early fixtures cause concern but the Van der Vaart pre-season form may yet force a rethink.

There were plenty of other sides in action, including Everton, Sunderland, Norwich and Swansea. With an array of friendly matches pouring in today, it pays to keep up to date with the pre-season trends.

Our pre-season form guide is up to date with all yesterday’s action, scorers and team lineups.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Is Sessegnon still going to be an OOP player next season?

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    1. suddenorgan
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      he's going to be just behind the front one/two I think?

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  2. Fpl Old Guard
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    Does anybody feel like ignoring their team until the week before when we all have a much clearer picture?

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    1. Dr. Rog
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      yes

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    2. Lanley Staurel
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      As if. Hello!

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      1. Lanley Staurel
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Blimey I'm 43 but writing like a 12 yr old. That's what FPL does to you.....adles your brain...

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    3. NeedleVor
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      Don't be silly... we may aswell use up the next two weeks doing it aswell.

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    4. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Nope. The best part of fantasy footy is the team selection/transfers. This is the one time you can make unlimited transfers without cost/wildcard use.

      Tinkering and switching tactics/personnel is fun. So, although you're right inasmuch as these teams surely aren't 'productive' teams, they still help fill the empty void in my lonely soul.

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  3. Suarezchomper
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone know what's wring with needlevor?
    Thought he used to be an slright poster last season, is he going for rbjs title this year?

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    1. Suarezchomper
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      *wrong

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  4. NeedleVor
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    Please rate my breakfast. This is the last time I promise, I just can't stop tinkering! Always tinkering.

    Kingsmill Brown
    Olivio Light, marmite(VC), Unsmoked Danish
    Poached egg1, poached egg2, poached egg3
    Douwe Egberts(C), White Milk

    I’m so tempted to bring in a big gun like Heinz baked beans but need to consider the long term effects.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated, brothers.

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    1. tangtastic
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      ^ Attention seeker

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    2. Andy
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      NeedleVor, I suggest you take a look at this and take a minute or two to think about your posts on recently - the last 24 hours especially.

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      1. NeedleVor
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        14 years, 9 months ago

        Ok, Andy. I am a member though, clean slate?

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        1. denial
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          14 years, 9 months ago

          You are a total member, yes.

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          1. King Eric, in America
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            +1

            So being a member gives wider latitude to flaming? Huh.

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        2. Andy
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          It doesn't matter if you're Pope Benedict XVI, your membership pays for the right to a season ticker, read our Members articles, the statistics and so on - not free will of disruption.

          If the nonconstructive actions persist, we'll have to take action. Simple as that really. We welcome your contributions, as long as it's actually contributing towards something.

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          1. njfsdkffslkf
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            Right on

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhD0MxacnIE&playnext=1&list=PLFE3A30374E204A33

            😉

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    3. Lanley Staurel
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      Is there no-one else in your house who will listen to you?

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    4. Fpl Old Guard
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      Did you spend all your calories on that or have you got any left?

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      1. super zlatan
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        It's all about the French toast for me. Haha.

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  5. coriswrasse
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    any opinions from across the Atlantic on this squad?

    Given, Al-Habsi (B)
    VDV (c), Adam, Taarabt (vc), Yaya Toure, Albrighton
    Bent/Carroll?, Holt (B), Zamora (B)

    go with Bent or Carroll as starting striker?

    switching over to Arsenal or Chelsea strikers with a QPR, NOR or SEA cheap midfielder after rotations clear up a bit.

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    1. I hate Craig Gardner
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      • 15 Years
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      Your team has no defence. For which there is no defence.

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      You're confident of Adam's starting?

      I'd go with Carroll, as his service is likely to be much better than Bent's.

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      1. juneysid
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Im not sure about Adam starting either - bit of a gamble?

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  6. Peka90
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    RMT

    Given
    Briggs, Kompany, Rafael
    Downing, VDV, Barton, Yaya
    Rooney, Suarez, Gervihno

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    1. RevsFC
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Gervinho is a big risk: Arsenal have tough opening fixtures, play every three days due to UEFA qualifying matches and although plays wide as a winger, he is a forward on FPL, which means you'll have to choose between him and RVP. Wait and see imo.

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      1. RevsFC
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        and not to be a troll but its almost a sure thing that Barton will get a ban for some misconduct by the end of the season, and frankly i think he's overrated.

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          ... along with about a third/half the Prem.

          I like Barton (footy-wise, not sayin' I want him to date my daughter) and think the new BP allocation could be beneficial to his returns. Can't see how he's overrated, except possibly by me and Attila. 🙂

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          1. RevsFC
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            I just think he's too hot-headed. I don't like Wilshere for the same reasons and I'm an Arsenal fan. But in fairness he did trying burning out someone's eye with a cigar.

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            1. RevsFC
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 9 months ago

              i take that back since you were helping me out earlier.

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              1. King Eric, in America
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 9 months ago

                Take what back? You said nothing rude. It's OK you don't rate Barton - different strokes, different folks.

                Barton was a criminal bully. Yes. He has since given up drink and had a stellar season - bar one epsiode with MGP - free from trouble and as an inspirational leader on 'Castle.

                If he stays, he's likely to be in the middle of it all and therefore in the points and BPs.

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  7. Dr. Rog
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    Just something to bear in mind... transfer prices are the most volatile in the first 6 weeks of the season. A form player can increase 0.5-1mln inside of a month and non-performing players will drop 0.3-0.5 in that period also.

    The top picks in mid/fwd this year are:
    Zog - cant argue with that
    Wilshere - tough fixtures
    Bale - tough fixtures + he is highly inconsistent FF scorer
    Toure - dont expect as much as last year
    VdV - tough fixtures, also a but patchy as a scorer
    Tarabt - the sulk - -Bothroyd is a much better choice
    Tiote - Phil Neville-esque selection
    Adam - even if he plays, no set peices he can rely on

    Suarez - might not play in first game = 0.2 hit straight away
    Odem - crap fixtures
    Hernandez - not guaranteed starter
    Rooney - tough fixtures
    RVP - tough fixtures

    would be happy to be "short" many of these players. go against the crowd

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  8. super zlatan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Baines or cashley?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Definitely Cashley for early on in the season. Chelsea have good fixtures, Everton don't. Everton haven't started well since their CL qualifying season. Also, it's been suggested that Cole may benefit from AVB's style while Arteta may take some penalties or at least set pieces instead of Baines. 0.5m cheaper as well.

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  9. Bunji
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    1. Yaya and Zamora

    or

    2. Barton/Sinclair (or any 6.0 midfielder) and Suarez

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    1. super zlatan
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      No 2 for me

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  10. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    I see a few wise ones are about...

    Asked earlier but didnt get any reply (excluding tangtastics hilarious 'on the pitch' response), where will Malouda fit in in AVB's system, and how will it affect his fantasy returns?

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    1. tangtastic
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      haha! well, tbh, there was an element of truth to it. none of us can know that atm. save lampard, noone in that midfield is a def starter.

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      1. tangtastic
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        having said that, malouda is currently in my squad. i am betting that he play in an advanced position. but thats based purely on guessworkery

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      He plays Left, correct? I don't know who else Chels have to play there ... would like the answer to this myself.

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      1. tangtastic
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        benayouns might be challenging for that spot. he's been lining up next to torres n preseason

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  11. super zlatan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Baines or a cole?

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    1. tangtastic
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      • 15 Years
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      a.cole for me, for the greater clean sheets potential.

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      1. guinness416
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        14 years, 9 months ago

        I agree with tang ... going for Cech as my "pricy defender" myself, I think.

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  12. Pinnochio
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    ok heres my team..rmt if you please

    Al Habsi (Hennessy)

    Dunne Kompany Clichy ( Gorkss, Alcaraz)

    O'Hara Lamps Arteta Taarabt (Sinclair)

    Rooney Ba Zamora

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  13. sconway77
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    RMT - Tweaked it a little since yesterday. . . .

    Given (Ruddy)

    Jose Enrique, Luiz, Figueroa (O'shea, Caulker)

    Albrighton, N'zog, Downing, Walcott, VDV

    Carroll, Gervinho (Holt)

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    1. Pinnochio
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      im liking this this year..not one of the same players from my team ----^ 🙂

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  14. Fpl Old Guard
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    I do not understand the Yaya Toure love - considering he 2/3 million more expensive this season!

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    1. Gregor
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      Relatively cheap Man City coverage capable of goals, assists and bonus.

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  15. Goooooner from Lahore
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Hey rate my team…

    given ruddy
    wilkinson olosson kompany luiz hughes
    VDV toure cahill walters/benarfa/tabaart/albrighton(two of them)
    RVP zamora rodgela

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  16. Evs
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    • 16 Years
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    Is anyone going for a Chelski forward from the off. I have put £11m aside, but I am not sure...

    (currently have cole & lamps in team also)

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    1. AllessandroSwissToni
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Surely Cole and Lamps are enough. If Torres hits a vein of form you could always dump Lamps and spend the cash upfront.

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      1. Evs
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        No, i have £11m put aside for a forward plus already got Cole & Lamps in.

        I got feeling Bosingwa may play. Now, that would be nice 😉

        PS - Anyone picked up on Smalling at right back ?

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    2. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      benayoun will come on for 20mins, score a goal and get an assist. bandwagon started to mess up all the best laid plans

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  17. wagner is king
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    who is best choice in 8m bracket?

    and

    is VDV a must this year?

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    1. Fpl Old Guard
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      I think there are much better choices in the 6.5 mill bracket.

      I think people are put off by vdv price, but as a spurs fan, this year vdv has had a proper pre-season, has scored three goals in three games so far, if spurs score vdv is normally involved - so he has to be at least on your watchlist!

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      1. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        i think vdv is def one of the more reliable source of goals from midfield. but how many games will be play this season? he will get injured at some point. when he is fit he will be in my team (after gw3 anyway)

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  18. AllessandroSwissToni
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    How essential is Cashley bearing in mind AVB's repudiated preference for attacking wing backs and Chelsea's run of fixtures?

    There seems no other Chelsea option though Luiz would seem the natural option at RWB unless new transfers transpire - Anyone remember Bosingwa??? Surely AVB won't nail him on the team sheet?

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    1. Only one Di Matteo
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      AVB has yet to decide in the chelsea back line, cashley and terry seem the only likely starters. It is possible that bosingwa could be employed regularly at rb but only time will tell. With regards to the remaining cb position, it could be held by either Luiz or Ivanovic. It seems likely Alex will move on, and AVB may seek a replacement possibly rolando or subotic.

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  19. Only one Di Matteo
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    With the likely arrival of Javier Pastore at Chelsea, torres will get much better service and if he can hold a starting place then he could be a great fpl prospect.

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  20. Only one Di Matteo
    • 15 Years
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    With the likely arrival of Javier Pastore at Chelsea, torres will get much better service and if, yes I know a big if then he could be a great fpl prospect.

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    1. Pinnochio
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      no

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    2. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      But do we risk waiting for them two to form an understanding on the pitch, by which time Chelsea's easy fixtures will be wasting away

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  21. rup22
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Al Habsi, (Given)
    Kompany, Clichy, Luiz, (Simpson, De Laet)
    Walcot, Malouda, Taarabt, O’Hara (Sessegnon)
    Saurez, Zamora, Balotelli

    What do u think? Balotellis is a bit of a punt 🙂

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    1. Gregor
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      No Mancs? Should fixtures be that much of a worry with them?

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      1. rup22
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Will get some Mancs in after their first few games...and some spurs of course

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  22. alfast1c
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    How about?

    A.Cole, Kelly, Kompany, (Hughes, Simpson)
    Malouda, Silva, Taarabt, N'Zogbia, (Sinclair)
    Bent, Zamora, Holt

    Imho imba team! 🙂

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    1. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      bent is overpriced. so is ashley cole barring an immense improvement on last year.

      apart from that it's pretty good especially if malouda and kelly play.

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      1. chinmusic
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        But wasn't Ashley Cole the second or third highest scoring defender? An immense improvement on last year would make him amazing value.

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  23. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Who is the best 5.5m value player? No newcastle or QPR players please.

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      maybe not the 'best', but i think dorrans could be one to watch. better player than brunt imo

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      1. Gregor
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Gibbs, if Arsenal don't buy a new left back.

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    2. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      erm... tchoyi, davies (fulham) or hoolahan (norwich)

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    3. Only one Di Matteo
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      Hoolahan if you want to play safe. Tchoyi and Moses are risky but potentially more profitable picks.

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    4. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Tchoyi, Moses, Hoolahan, Dorrans.

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    5. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Midfield?

      Rodwell, Holden (if healthy), Dorrans > wild choices 🙂

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    6. njfsdkffslkf
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      Danny Graham maybe worth a shout. On my radar.

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  24. Cheggers
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    Can anyone give me a good goalkeeper rotation for 8.5m?

    I don't want to spend 9m...

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      No sorry chegs!

      Dont be tight dude... 😉

      (De Vires is obvious cheapy @£4m)

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Keepers are so rubbish though and Given is such a bad band wagon.

        Villa were rubbish last year and have lost their best players. Do not understand the love at all.

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          Villas new manager is boring, he will tighten them up and be defensive.

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        2. AllessandroSwissToni
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          I'm starting to look at Cech as a solid season long option and just forget rotation. Hart or Cech for keeper, boring boring me.

          There was a good post a few days ago from someone regarding how the BP's may play out and solid keepers with CS's stand to benefit.

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          1. Cheggers
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            Cheers - need to have a think about it.

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          2. Scoredelario
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            i disagree with that post because the keepers will get consistently ok scores (top 4-5 on the pitch) but rarely mega scores (top 3 on the pitch = bonus pts)

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    2. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      alhabsi/de vries (if first choice)?

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  25. Marbles22
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Just To Say for those that are interested I Know The Score 2011/12 is being hosted on the talksport website

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  26. Scoredelario
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    OK... final team picked... (again)

    When's the first game?

    *eager grin*

    Oh... in about 10,000 million years.... 🙁

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  27. Bunji
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    RVP and Suarez?

    or

    Bent and Carroll?

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    1. Sasquatch
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      RVP and Suarez for the long haul, but having Bent for the first few GWs wouldn't be a bad idea.

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  28. AllessandroSwissToni
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Akos Buszaky? Surely he's not an option now Taraabt is staying - any QPR fans on here that can enlighten us as to this guys form?

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  29. Dr. Rog
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Suarez problem - does anyone have any views from Dalglish about the likelihood of him starting?

    My mate is a liverpool fan, he says the reason why Kenny went out and bought half the prem a month ago was so that they all train and get a pre-season together so they could gel.

    Does it make sense to slot Suarez straight in and risk burn out?

    He has all the players at his disposal to play 4-3-3 to start
    -- Lucas -- Adam --
    ------Gerrard------
    Kuyt -- Caroll -- Downing

    then revert to
    Kuyt -- Lucas -- Gerrard -- Downing
    ------Suarez -- Caroll -----

    after that
    Henderson wont play much unless Gerrard/Lucas get injured. unlikely Adam plays that much away from home...

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    1. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      either way its too much of a risk to start with Suarez unless there is some clarification from Liverpool on whether he will play or be rested.

      Suarez just reminds me of RVP/Fab last year. took about 5 games before they started playing regular

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      1. Gregor
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Be interesting to see if Suarez makes the friendly with Valencia on the 6th.

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    2. Gregor
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Probably more chance of Suarez making the start of the season than Gerrard from what people are saying.

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      1. Dr. Rog
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        ok so... perhaps 4-4-2 after all

        Kuyt - Lucas - Adam - Downing
        Suarez - Caroll

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          Or 4-3-3 with Suarez out wide on the left

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        2. Gregor
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          Liverpool have consistently been playing 4-2-3-1 in pre-season. I personally think Suarez might make it, he hadn't played much football before joining Liverpool and couldn't play in Europe when he did. He has also said previously that he thinks he'll be ready.

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          1. Sasquatch
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            ^THis. People forget he had a 9-10 week break last December/January. After that enforced lay-off, he's only played five months. I think he'll be ready. With no European football, and Kenny likely to give youth a chance in the cups, there'll be plenty of recouperation time between matches.

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  30. Cheggers
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Yo,
    Can someone point me in the direction of the defence rotation spreadsheet?

    ta

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    1. Dr. Rog
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqle1EDEMc5mdDIweFY2N0hVTXV5TVY4V1BsSlVJbUE&hl=en_US#

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    2. Zep
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      https://spreadsheets3.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqle1EDEMc5mdDIweFY2N0hVTXV5TVY4V1BsSlVJbUE&hl=en_US#gid=2

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        cheers both

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