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5 August 2011 1940 comments
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As we highlighted around the launch of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game, this season’s Bonus Points are being gathered from a very different source.

The days of Fantasy managers calling foul when a player sporting an extravagant haircut (see: Chris Eagles, David Luiz, etc for perfect examples) appeared to win favour simply by catching the eye of the “man in the stand” – the ever elusive Press Association representative – are now dead.

This season the FPL are dealing in cold hard statistics; numbers will be crunched and repurposed via the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index – a figure dealt to each player after every game based on six key factors (winning, performance, appearance time, goals, assists and clean sheets). That new Gameweek stat will now decide the destination of the much-maligned supplementary scoring; we’re no longer at the mercy of a shadowy figure with the dubious outlook – a good thing surely?

The truth is – the jury is still out on that. While we’re likely to have a decent insight on how things will work once the season is underway, right now we can only speculate on how this change will evolve matters.

There are some clues available; a few paths we can tentatively tread right now to help anticipate how the Bonus Points will be steered from next weekend onwards. We’ve done some digging through the data already publicly available to explore how matters may pan out and, in doing so, can present you with more than a few theories to ponder prior to Saturday’s deadline.

Looking at last season’s top 25 EA SPORTS PPI scorers, the first impression is extremely encouraging. Names like Vincent Kompany (7th), Joe Hart (11th), Petr Cech (12th) and Sylvain Distin (24th), are high in the rankings, suggesting that such players will benefit from a belated extra boost in their Gameweek earnings.

Dig a little deeper however and these early hopes seem a little forlorn.

Kompany and Hart, for example, started 75 out of 76 games between them, with an average EA SPORTS PPI of 14 and 13.2 respectively. Right now those scores mean very little. We know that, over the season, both players fared well – that they were obviously very consistent in their Index scoring. However, when push comes to shove, picking up Bonus Points is about being one of the top three scorers on the index in any given fixture – consistent scoring week to week will mean nothing – “explosive” performances in a single Gameweek is what we’re looking for. This is where attacking players appear to hold a firm advantage with their decisive interventions at the business end of the field.

Before we switch our attention to those particular players, let’s dwell on Kompany as an example a little longer.

Much is expected of the City centre-back this season; here is a player who rarely threatens goal and assists but is often the mainstay of a rock solid City backline. With an initial price of 6.0 in the FPL, Kompany looks good value but, in saying that, we’re still anticipating Bonus points will help him justify that valuation.

As already mentioned, Kompany earned a very respectable average score on the EA SPORTS PPI of 14 points per game last season- however, it’s his range of scoring that is key to his chances of earning a top three Index spot in any given match. If this range of scoring over the season is between 7 and 28 points in the Index, can we be sure that this will be enough to finish above the likes of David Silva, Carlos Tevez and Sergio Aguero on a regular basis?

To assess this further we analysed the first ten EA SPORTS PPI “Team of the Week’s” in an attempt to decipher some trends within the scoring. We start with the top scoring goalkeepers of weeks one through ten…

GoalkeeperPPI ScoreGoalsAssistsClean SheetsWin
Hahnemann26000No
Carson21001Yes
Al-Habsi22001Yes
Gilks23001Yes
Hart21001Yes
Green22001Yes
Cech19001Yes
Howard20001Yes
Cech23001Yes
Reina22001Yes

Looking at the table above you can see the best goalkeeper in each of the first ten weeks of action scored between 19 and 26 on the EA SPORTS PPI. Averaged out across the ten weeks this gives us a score of 22.1 points as an average return for a top rated stopper.

These numbers appear to show there is a definite ceiling to a keeper’s Index score. However, on initial inspection, given that we know that Kompany averaged a score of 14 points a week, this still look promising – the early impression is that keepers may well be in line for more Bonus next season. Once we start analysing the outfield positions however, the complexion changes.

DefenderPPI ScoreGoalsAssistsClean SheetsWin
Baptiste32101Yes
A. Cole25011Yes
Hangeland25100No
Williamson29011Yes
L. Young37101Yes
Agger24001Yes
Koscielny35100Yes
Samba30000Yes
Hutton30110Yes
Samba28100No
Jara31100Yes
Upson24001Yes
Alex33100Yes
Distin24001Yes
Coloccini25100No
Bridge19000Yes
Ridgewell37101Yes
Bosingwa28001Yes
Vidic45101Yes
Terry30000Yes

When we examine twenty of the top forty defenders from the first ten weeks of the season you can immediately see an increase in the range of scoring. Nemanja Vidic earned 45 EA SPORTS PPI points in a single week, while the lowest in our sample is 19 from Wayne Bridge – the same as our tenth rated keeper Petr Cech.

The “top performing” defenders look like they pick up between 24 and 37 Index points in a given Gameweek. The average score the top of the level defenders (using the sample of all 40 from the first ten weeks, not just the 20 listed above) returns an EA SPORTS Index score of 28.1. Indication that defenders are at least more likely to get Bonus Points than a goalkeeper on your average Gameweek. Little change there then.

Significantly, from the Defenders table above, we can already see that goalscoring is a key factor behind a strong Index haul. The top scoring defenders over the first 10 Gameweeks all claimed goals and Alex and Jara were ranked amongst them even without earning a clean sheet.

There are, of course, and always will be, exceptions to the rule. Chris Samba earned 30 Index points in Gameweek 3, despite failing to register any of the key factors. From the data available, however, such occurrences appear to be a rarity.

Already we’re beginning to suspect that goals and assists, plus of course a winning team performance, will be the key contributors. When we switch our focus to the attacking players, this hypothesis appears to be cemented further.

Mid/ForwardPPI ScoreGoalsAssistsClean SheetsWin
Drogba68301Yes
S. Petrov34101Yes
Carroll65301Yes
Barry35100Yes
Walcott39100Yes
Etuhu25100No
Essien52200Yes
Etherington32020Yes
Berbatov60301No
Van Der Vaart24100Yes
Thomas38100Yes
Emerton32100Yes
Varney40100Yes
Gomez31101Yes
N’Zogbia42200No
Silva31100Yes
Hernandez44200Yes
Song33101Yes
Ameobi57220Yes
Yakubu35100Yes

Perhaps the most surprising factor of all, hidden amongst the minutiae of the EA SPORTS PPI definition, is the fact that clean sheets contribute towards a midfielder’s – and even a striker’s Index tally. The definition states that these are weighted according to position, but the fact that a striker has any benefit from a clean sheet whatsoever immediately diminishes the value of a defender in comparison to their attacking comrades.

To think Mario Balotelli could be more likely to pick up FPL bonus points now because of work predominantly done by the likes of Kompany, only strengthens the case for attacking players within winning teams.

As you can see on the table above – the range of returns here is the biggest we’ve seen. Midfielders and forwards are of course much more likely to score and assist and it appears to be those factors that see their Index scores rocket.

The bottom scorer in our table – Rafael Van der Vaart still picked up 24 points (this is 10 more than your average Kompany score) while the top earner over the first ten Gameweeks – Didier Drogba – romped home with an index mark of 68 points – a truly explosive return.

Finding the average EA SPORTS PPI score from the top midfielders and forwards (using the sample of all 60 from the first ten weeks) we can see evidence of a clear runaway winner – the Index figure comes in at a strong 39.6.

Looking back then, while the defenders made the goalkeepers look somewhat irrelevant, by and large the midfielders and strikers leave them both behind. The average score of 39.6 is higher than all but one of the very best defenders in the first 10 Gameweeks.

Given that there is an average of 2.8 goals scored in every Premier League game, that leaves the potential for a fair number of assists and goals to boost the attacking players’ Index scores each week. A clean sheet proved much harder to come by last season and, on the evidence of the data available, seems far less likely to earn a player the boost required to push them into the top three EA SPORTS PPI position in a given match ahead of a goalscorer. Winning, scoring and assisting all look like being the key indices.

All roads, perhaps unsurprisingly, lead to goals then. If a player scores a goal (or even just contributes to it) then their Index score seems likely to beat off other “top performers” across the less significant performance statistics.

We have to hold our hands up and be honest here – our data is limited – we’re working with a large number of blind spots and these theories are ultimately assumptions based on what’s available. The evidence found however, seems to defy some of the assumptions made since the rule change was announced. Defenders and industrious midfielders could earn extra recognition but ultimately, it looks as the attacking players, particularly those in sides that regularly earn three points, will dominate the Bonus awards.

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  1. TommyK
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    How did United do in the testimonial? Rooney still looking in excellent form?

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    1. jayzico
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      rooney or rvp is my last piece of the puzzle. i cant afford to say i'll swap one for the other after gw1...there'll be more pressing matters and ideally one would want to go in to gw3 with a possible 2 transfers.

      what's everyone else doing rvp or roonpig???

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        The Roon.

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      2. Lewis - Sky Pod
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        both

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        1. jayzico
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          id usually rely on your words mmw but im going persival

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    2. Ole.
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      6-0

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  2. Demí
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    Just put Obertan in my team. Looks like he's joining Newcastle. 5m is a snip and i think he'll do well there

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2022942/Manchester-United-winger-Gabriel-Obertan-join-Newcastle.html

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    1. applebonkers
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      pardew and parsnip, dream team http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/oberparsnip.jpg

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      1. jayzico
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        crazy. i know it's a wind up demi. the lesser mortals may succumb to that bait without checking the link. nice. bet i can can guess your front 3 this year

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      2. Demí
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        lool

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  3. applebonkers
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    5 seconds in, kolarov doesn't talk he just makes noises http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Features/Walk-this-way

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Nice grav. 🙂

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    2. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      FullOF noises :O

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  4. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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    Given Ruddy

    A.cole Kompany Bramble Simpson Orr

    Malouda Silva Sinclair Moses Sessagon

    Rvp Suarez Holt

    Should i change Bramble to Hughes ?

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    1. jayzico
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      personally. i'd change you

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      1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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        Hehehe What's Wrong man ?
        I am just Asking for suggestion.

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        1. jayzico
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          nothing is wrong... yet every time I see your team it's been swayed by hype.

          and depending on the poster you tweak your team for their approval. sorry dude. aint into that buzz at all

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          1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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            (It's been Swayed - What does that means ?
            So should i change my way of asking ?
            Is that right ?

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  5. alwayslookonalbrightonsideo…
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    ok, 5th draft:

    Given (Ruddy)

    Kompany Enrique Hangeland Vidic (Caulker)

    Downing Toure Moses N'Zog (Eagles)

    Rooney Suarez (Holt)

    If Suarez not starting then switch for Odemwingie/Zamora

    Zero left in bank. 🙁

    Thoughts?

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      Downgrade Hughes Upgrade Eagle.

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      1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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        Sorry Not Hughes Hangeland.

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        1. alwayslookonalbrightonsideo…
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          thanks for the suggestion, am new here, what's the benefit of downgrading a starting 11 player and upgrading a bench player?

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  6. Loveclarkeforever
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    Bent or Malouda?

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      Malouda
      😀

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  7. Twisted Saltergater
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    Great article, and one I'd like to discuss with others here and see what people's thoughts are, but short of reading the 6 previous pages I don't know what's been said. It's a shame there isn't an article for general comments and RMT's and then this article would have the majority of comments focussed on the subject matter. Anyways...

    I'm not sure I'm seeing anything unexpected. We all thought goals would be rewarded the most, followed by assists, followed by clean sheets and being on the winning side. I think it's safe to say defenders scores are capped as they just don't go and score a brace very often, but if they did, they'd score similar to any other player scoring 2 goals.

    I still think Kompany is a good prospect if Man City go out and win games 1-0. It'll be the likes of Vidic and Vermaelen that may suffer when United and Arsenal are winning by more than a single goal margin.

    I've got loads more thoughts on the EA Active Sport Index, but I'm aware this post is already pretty long!

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    1. Sasquatch
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      I'm up for a bit more discussion on it!

      B&B had a great post on the previous page;

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/08/05/analysing-the-ea-sports-index/comment-page-6/#comment-1793512

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
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        hehe, that's great! Nice one B&B.

        I figured dominant defenders would score additional points from interceptions and clearances, just as midfielders more involved in the build up play score higher (more passes). I'll have to go through B&B's formula and do some checks!

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      2. Twisted Saltergater
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        Another thought. We have to remember than many defenders (and wingers to a degree) are not involved in the build up play of teams. I don't expect them to score many points even with the benefit of scoring the odd goal.

        For instance, Hutton scored 30 one week while scoring, assisting and Spurs winning. Vidic managed to score 45 without the assist but kept a clean sheet. So either clean sheets are way more valuable than assists or other aspects of Vidic's performance boosted his score.

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      3. Twisted Saltergater
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        Is it sad that I find this pretty exciting? For once we can look at the performance stats, reverse engineer the scores to a fairly accurate degree, then work out which type of players will get the bonus points. 🙂

        I don't buy the conclusion that you should buy expensive forwards. Yes, if they're going to score any week, but when they draw a blank, it will be the defender keeping a CS or a midfielder that ran the show without any of the chances converted that will score points.

        I hope they haven't weighted the points too heavily to being on the winning team though.

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        1. Sasquatch
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          I don't know if "exciting" is the word I'd use 😛 But it is pretty interesting and makes a nice change of pace from the usual pre-season fare.

          I'd agree with you about GKs and defenders as well. I would like to think they'll still be recognised in terms of BPs when their contributions make a genuine difference to the outcome of the match. However, if we have another season like last, where cleanies were relatively thin on the ground, that may not happen too often.

          One thing it might do though, is create an even bigger gap between the likes of Baines, Vidic etc, and the best of the rest, over the course of the season of course.

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
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            Perhaps I'm going a little OTT 😀

            Goalkeepers get a bit of a raw deal. If they keep a CS then defenders tend to outscore them because of tackles, clearances, etc. so they need to keep a CS and make lots of saves in doing so to receive bonus.

            I think it's another strong argument for budget keepers that are generally the busier to their more expensive counterparts.

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
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      http://www.premierleague.com/page/EAIndex/0,,12306,00.html

      This goes someway to explaining why influential players like Vidic, and maybe Yaya over Silva will do well bonus points wise:

      2. Player's Performance per match - Players receive points for positive influences on a winning performance (shots, tackles, clearances, saves etc). Players have points taken away from their score for negative actions such as shots off target and yellow/red cards.

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  8. Real Socially Distant
    • 14 Years
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    Given Al-Habsi
    Baines Ivanovic Kompany Jose Enrique(if goes to pool) Simpson
    Sinclair Moses Taarabt Dempsey Nasri( or adam)
    Bent Carroll Graham

    What do you think? any improvements?

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      Instead of graham take holt.
      Ivanovic is a risky punt but may off.

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      1. Real Socially Distant
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        I think Ivanovic will be 1st team.
        I know holt is a pen taker but i think graham was top scorer in championship last yr.

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        1. CFCTom
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          Ivanovic is a very safe buy, he'll be a regular as long as he is fit and not suspended. Not much of a chance of anyone taking his place.

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  9. Random_Guy
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    Which players would most benefit as a result of this change in bonus points allocation?

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    1. CFCTom
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      Players who get the FFL points but dont play well, goal poachers like Bent, Berbatov and Hernandez.

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
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        I'm sorry, do you mean "joint top-scorer with half the games Berbatov"?

        Yeah. He played like crap last year. Deserves nothing.

        Gonna be a long year for us, CFC. 🙁

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    2. Sasquatch
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      I think it'll be easier to point out the guys who'll do worse - the likes of Modric and Silva spring to mind. If we were using the new system last season, I don't think Adam would have received as many BPs either, but that's just speculation on my part without knowing the inticasies of the EA formula.

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      1. CFCTom
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        The thing is, while players' performances will now contribute to whether they get bonuses as opposed to solely their stats, things like assists, clean sheets and goals will contribute so much that it will end up being same as it was before. The highest scoring players (points wise) will get bonus points on top of that. IMO it's an awful lot of effort just to award 1,2 or 3 points to a player, so you should pick your team the same way you would have if the new system hadn't come into effect. Get the players who will get the most points, there will be exceptions to this rule of course but the loss of bonus points will be made up for by the actual points they get for clean sheets, assists, goals etc.

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        1. Sasquatch
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          Yeah, I'd totally agree that the new BP system shouldn't infuence your decision as regards squad selection in the slightest, but it's an interesting talking point.

          The only thing the new system will bring to the table (imo) is that anomalous BPs should be a thing of the past, ie points awarded for no apparent reason whatsoever.

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  10. Marco Del Wattsio
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    another day another draft.

    Given/Al Habsi

    Kompany/ivanovic/Orr/S Taylor/Turner

    Silva/Malouda/Moses/sessegnon/Taarabt

    Suarez/bent/Zamora

    Waiting on news on suarez. line up 3-4-3 come kick off.

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    1. jayzico
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      in the meantime the best move you could make would be suarez>carroll and taylor>simpson

      ps. you may want to keep carroll after this advice...

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      1. Marco Del Wattsio
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        despite picking carroll last season i still cant help thinking he's a bit of a donkey.

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    2. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      Great team not much changes Required.

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    3. 4vets
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      Marco, sorry it's late and I should be going to bed (and will do soon!).

      What do you want to know? There have been multiple comments on all members of your team in previous posts and I can't see what else there is to say... what are you after?

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      1. Marco Del Wattsio
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        im after six numbers on the lottery. any advice??

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        1. 4vets
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          1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 7 😉

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          1. Marco Del Wattsio
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            i'll stick a pound on tomorrow!

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  11. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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    Really speaking, we can't predict... have to wait and watch.

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  12. Get up ya bum
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    Merry doosra, thoughts on the article? How's it compare with your own analysis?

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    1. 4vets
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      This is awesome. Doos has become "Statto" 🙂

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  13. Heytch
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    • 15 Years
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    Must say, I'm surprised to see the vast majority of teams lining up with RVP start of season. Surely he's a R4 proposition...

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    1. Lewis - Sky Pod
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      arguably the best striker in the league and the most fixture-proof player money can buy. would be a huge error to go without him, especially when knowing he's fit and ready.

      imo

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      1. King Eric, in America
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        'most fixture proof player money can buy'

        Have to disagree, there.

        Good: he is. 'Most' is a definite subjective call. I'd say Rooney. But I might be wrong, too. We'll see.

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    2. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      The first fixture is against newcastle that's why rvp is must... And he is fixture proof.

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      1. 4vets
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        I can go with this. Toon seem to be in meltdown at the mo.

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        1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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          Jose enrique left their is not much left in defence.

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          1. 4vets
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            Exactly, Noble & Barton (probably) gone and Jose set to leave... Newcastle in tatters unless they sign new blood very soon, and if they do they have to get new players reacting as a team. They've crippled themselves for the first few games.

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      2. Heytch
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        take your fixture proof on board. Just looking at a road trip to Newcastle followed by Liverpool and ManU and thinking bout grabbing him in a few rounds. If he doesn't score at Newcastle I can then be very happy with that decision to get off to a strong season start. Here's hoping!

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        1. Get up ya bum
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          I'm with you. Gw4, hoping he doesn't burn me beforehand. Roon looks better for the start imo

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          1. GREENDREAMS11
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            6 and half a dozen if you ask me. i dont think west brom will be as much of a push over for united as newcastle will be for arsenal. erring towards rvp gameweek 1

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  14. KYFA23
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    RMT:

    Kompany,Enrique,Baines,(Gabbidon,Simpson)

    VDV,Downing,Wilshire,N'zog,(Moses)

    Bent,Rodallega,Carroll

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    1. berba is class
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      good bare wilshere as hes not going to get you more than 2 points a game

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  15. berba is class
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    Given

    Hughes Cole A Kompany

    Moses Silva Taarabt N'Zogbia

    Aguero Zamora Rooney

    Subs Ruddy O'Hara Simpson Taylor

    RMT PLEASE LADS

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      You decide.

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    2. divvy
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      great team maybe aguero to suarez and use that money to improve taylor
      pls rmt belowe as well

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  16. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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    Besides nzogbia which players in aston villa are confirmed starter ?

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    1. Demí
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      Bent, Given & Collins to name a few...

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      1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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        So in mids no confirm starter ?

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        1. Demí
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          Ireland

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          1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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            Ok thanks.

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          2. 4vets
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            I woukd love to see him shine again.

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        2. DropPointsNotBombs
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          Albrighton

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    2. berba is class
      • 15 Years
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      Bent given collins

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    3. mvtaylor
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      • 15 Years
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      Given
      Young Collins Dunne Warnock
      Nzogbia Petrov (A Player) Albrighton
      Bent (A Player)

      Pretty much how I'd see it.

      You've got Ireland, Bannan, Makoun, Delph, Agbonlahor, Delfouneso fighting it out for those two spots I'd say. I wouldn't guarantee Albrighton starting EVERY game though... also if I was Villa boss I'd drop Petrov as I think he's garbage but somehow he's the captain...

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      1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
        • 15 Years
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        That was awesum..was keen to know the position.
        Thank you.

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  17. jayzico
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    guys who do i speak to on this forum if i want to put my own thoughts/pieces up? im a life long chelsea fan (from early shed days ) and a papa that managed scotland... i'd love to write some verses (I'm a writer as a profession but not football) ?

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      jay, who's yer auld man ?

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      1. jayzico
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        bobby brown. his team was 'the uncrowned victors of the world cup 66' only because we beat england the year after they won it.

        Believe it or not i was helping him in the garden last weekend. he always hated the fact i was chelsea and not a hun... that's only because being a hun/tim was hammered in at such a young age. And (as if you want to know this but so what... i moved to london as a kid and chelse became my team... especially when john spencer came along. lol. bond between me and paps.)

        eh. sorry for that rant. anyway...

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          nah, thats cool dude, havin a rant is as scottish as porridge. in the blood so to speak

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          1. jayzico
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            (pussy is good tho 😉 )

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          2. jayzico
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            you scottish green man? i gave up my happy hackney life and moved back to sunny anniesland. utter crap as a place lol

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            1. GREENDREAMS11
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              yeah , but i live in sunny wales. originally from edinburgh,

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              1. jayzico
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 7 months ago

                cool. i was born in gorgy... in the shadow of (ahem tynecastle... lets keep that quiet eh lol)... glasgow's kinda cool green. glad to be back... million miles away from shedsville tho

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    2. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      You have my support, I don't know who you'd contact though, haven't been using the site for that long. It would be nice to have a Chelsea fan's view on things.

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Don't see why you can't do it in the way you put that message up though.

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    3. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Correctly predict the starting XI for Chelseas first match and you can write whatever you want in my opinion!

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Can you predict the spurs line up, i want to know if hutton will get the nod before corluka MV ?

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        1. mvtaylor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Hutton is more likely to be sold to Aston Villa than start over Walker / Corluka this season.

          Wanted me to pick the starting XI?

          Gomes
          Corluka Dawson King BAE
          Lennon Modric Huddlestone Bale
          Defoe Pavluchenko

          Gallas a bit injured and thankfully King fit so he'll start until he gets broken imo. Corluka will start season at RB but Walker should get plenty of chances in Europa League or against "easier" prem opponents.

          Sandro currently injured but should start over Hudds once back.

          As for front three, god knows. Redknapp seems to immensely dislike Kranjcar but with VDV injured we could either play a 4-4-1-1 with him in the second striker role or a 4-4-2 with him not included.

          I get the feeling that 'Arry really wants to persist with Defoe and get him back in to form so he'll get a start, as will Pavluchenko since VDV isn't playing to combo with Crouch.

          Could be wrong, let's wait and see...

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          1. Prisoner FC
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Spurs fan?

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            1. mvtaylor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              yes...

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          2. GREENDREAMS11
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            cheers mate. its been dragging on a bit, villa were supposed to have been signing him weeks ago. i assumed that harry had decided against it or something

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            1. mvtaylor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              latest ITK on our forum regarding it reads:

              "!Hutton and Keane personal terms done.
              I’m told it’s all done Villa’s end if Daniel Levy accepts.
              NO negotiating anymore; take it or leave it. Decent price of just under £10m."

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              1. GREENDREAMS11
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 7 months ago

                nice one , cheers. i think it should happen as mcleish likes hutton and has had him as a player at rangers and also scotland,, he seems to appreciate him and could be a good choice if playing for villa regularly. i thought he was ok for spurs last year until him and harry fell out.

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                1. mvtaylor
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 7 months ago

                  Yeah, we've got too many options at RB to be fair so selling him and somehow offloading Keane would be rather useful.

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      2. jayzico
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        mvtaylor. i honestly reckon i could. i honestly don't think it would make any difference here though. the only thing i would say is create your team around frank.

        but then, as if you would'nt 😉

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        1. mvtaylor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Well, I currently have the Drogmeister general in my team and would rather have Malouda than fat frank but then again... what do I know...

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    4. JJC
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Your best bet would be sending an email to support@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk and equire there, it's most likely to get a response than on here, and i imagine they'll answer you there, or point you to the right place.

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      1. jayzico
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        wicked jjc. gona do that now man. cheers

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  18. Random_Guy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Given, (Ruddy)
    A Cole, Kompany, Hughes, (Simpson, Orr)
    Silva, Malouda, Moses, Taarabt,Sessegnon
    RVP, Zamora, (Holt)

    In light of this article, which players should I change? Silva? A Cole to Baines?

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    1. divvy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      decent team, leave as is
      hows mine below?

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I wouldn't change anyone in light of this article. Forget about Bp's until we see them in action imo. Base your picks on goals, assists & cs's. Which coincidentally should factor strongly in bp allocation

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    3. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      RVP for Ronney imo

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  19. divvy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    hows this team?

    given kenny
    cole kompany hughes enrique simpson
    silva nzogbia taarabt jarvis moses
    rvp suarez zamora

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Instead of Jarvis Get Dyer.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        N Dyer? Why not Ephraim? I honestly know nothing about either and am trying to choose between the 2.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Isnt ephraim prime for rotation?

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    2. kitier katba
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      looks great!

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  20. arsenalrock
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    VDV and Foster, or Malouda and Al-Habsi?

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    1. arsenalrock
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Thoughts?

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      1. Jake9
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        tough one both have positives and negatives but like second one a vbit more then in GW4 change malouda to VDV

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  21. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    You can put your own thought that's why this forum are built.
    Very much appreciated.

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  22. Jake9
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Who is a better pick A Johnson or G Holt

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      i've got holt and considering johnson. probably holt first game then maybe a change a wee bit later Jake

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      1. FearTheTurtle
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        If you think Holt won't score against Wigan then he probably shouldn't be in your team ever.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          thats the thing turtle. i think he will and think he might have a decent season but johnson plays for the better team. decisions , decisions

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          1. FearTheTurtle
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Yup, I know exactly what you mean. I have Johnson in my team. Here's my reasoning:

            1) He has premiership experience.
            2) He plays for the better team.
            3) Jol is an attack minded manager.

            I wish I could just do Holt for GW1 and then Johnson for GW2 but I'm sure something else will come up.

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        2. Jake9
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          thanks for the advice ive heard holt has had a bad pre season and norwich in general might get Holt to start then change to AJ a bit later

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          1. GREENDREAMS11
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            pre season doesn't count for too much really. look at liverpool and the goals they are conceeding, cant see that happening come start of the season. managers just playing around with options, seeing what works and what doesn't. when the business starts it will be very different

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          2. Get up ya bum
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            July 16 vs Gorleston 7-0 – Holt (2), Whitbread, Smith, Jackson,Johnson,Wilbraham

            July 21 vs Sparta Gottingen/RSV Gottingen 8-0 – Vaughan (2), Jackson,Francomb, Morison, Bennett, Ward (2)

            July 23 vs Nordhausen/Regional Select XI 11-0 – Morison,Hoolahan,Crofts,Wilbraham, Surman, Martin, Jackson (2), Holt (2), Johnson

            July 26 vs Crystal Palace 0-1

            July 28 vs Southend United 0-0

            July 30 vs Coventry City 3-0 Wilbraham, Morison,Bennett

            August 3 vs Real Zaragoza 1-1 De Laet

            Wouldn't call it a bad pre season & holt has been among the goals & assists as expected.
            Is AJ s sure starter over dembele?

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        3. Marco Del Wattsio
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          bit nervous that the promoted teams will target wigan for 3 points so not going wigan heavy. there could be a few teams come gw4 with 3 wigan players on the bench lol!

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  23. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Andy, or fellow scouts. Is the EA Performance Index score on a week-by-week basis going to be made available in the Player Stats of the Members' Area?

    Even if you only have the data for some of the players, it may allow some of us to use the Opta stats and work out the weightings of some of the scores.

    Actually, that would only be possible if we had the option to see the Opta stats for a given week. I thought that was there? I recall you could increase it to the past 2,3,5 gameweeks but that option has gone now the season's ended. Something for the new site maybe.

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  24. InRafaWeTrust
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    I know it's off topic and a pain in the arse but I would really appreciate it someone give me a suggestions or tips..

    Given Ruddy

    Kompany Baines Agger Simspon Gabiddon

    Downing Moses VDV Y.Toure Walters

    Carroll Bent Holt

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    1. arsenalrock
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Not bad. Don't like Downing, Yaya or Walters though.

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    2. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Downing, Carroll and Agger is some pretty balls to the wall backing of Liverpool given the piss awful fixtures they have at the start.

      VDV may not start, Baines is a massive risk.

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      1. FearTheTurtle
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Is VdV still 50-50? I thought he was returning to training this week.

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        1. mvtaylor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Tweeted by FFS news...

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/8685032/Tottenham-Hotspurs-Rafael-van-der-Vaart-aims-to-recover-from-injury-in-time-to-face-Hearts.html

          We're on ITV4 tomorrow playing Bilbao so you can catch our latest line up there.

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          1. FearTheTurtle
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Much appreciated.

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      2. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        mv. do you think hutton will start before corluka dude ?

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        1. mvtaylor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          See above.

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    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I'm quite liking this team. Tweaks I would make are downgrade VDV and upgrade Bent to RVP. Yes, Villa do have great fixtures but I don't think Bent is great value at 10m.

      It's tricky as Spurs and United have awful fixtures. I'm backing Benayoun to start if you want a riskier punt.

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      1. InRafaWeTrust
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        cheers for the feedback lads much appreciated

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      2. FearTheTurtle
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Disagree. I think you have to have one big hitter in midfield at all time in case one of the big hitters start firing and you need to make a transfer. I would recommend:

        1) upgrading VdV( or keeping him if he's fit) to Malouda.
        2) Downgrading Downing to a 6m mid like O'Hara or whoever you want.
        3) Upgrading Carroll to RVP/Rooney.

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  25. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Hi guys long time lurker first time poster i was wondering what you make of this team been fiddling about and came up with the following
    Given,(Ruddy)
    Ivanovic,Kompany,Senderos,Gabbidon(Simpson)
    Nzog,Malouda,Silva,Moses(Ferguson)
    RVP,Rooney(Graham)
    Im torn the 1st 11 look really srong but there is nothing to fall back on should the first 11 be rotated also kind of limits formation thoughts please and thanks

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I prefer to spread the money a bit and play the fixtures rather than have permanent bench sitters like ferguson. But that's just me. Keep an eye on ivanovic & senderos, they may not be starters and the last thing you want is to be wasting your early free trades replacing non starters

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    2. arsenalrock
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I like it, weak bench though. I would downgrade one of Malouda and Silva.

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    3. JJC
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      With Senderos not in fullhams starting 4, Gabbidon in a recently promoted side and Simpson in a club in turmiol (though i have him as my cheapie also) your defence looks quite week. Maybe swap senderos for woodgate or Brown?

      Midfield i like, no problems there.

      Upfront, RVP and rooney: cant go wrong, not sure about graham, havent read much about him o cant comment.

      All in all, fairly solid first 11 but fragile bench, which isnt reccomended, Only simpson i can see scoring if someone doesnt play.

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      1. FearTheTurtle
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Senderos to Bramble, quick fix.

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I like it (assuming you're happy with yout low priced defs). Where are your rotation worries?

      Ivanovic should be OK although I have Cashley.

      Mid and For look safe... as long as Malouda starts and he can easily be switched with VDV if need be.

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  26. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Given Newcastle's apparent disintegration, is SUN & NEW still a good cheapie rotation combo in defence? What other viable options are there?

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  27. arsenalrock
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry, asking again...
    RVP and N'Zogbia
    Or
    Suarez and VDV?

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  28. GREENDREAMS11
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    jim baxter roolz. did your dad give him a bonus for the keepie uppie , lol

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  29. surelynot-1888
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    given (ruddy)
    hughes baines a.cole kompany (simpson)
    yaya silva lampard moses (routledge)
    carroll hoilett (graham)

    any ways to improve ?

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    1. mr messi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      You don't need Baines and Cole. Too much money in defence and your strikers are weak.

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      1. surelynot-1888
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        if any i think id rather take out baines, and bring in who ?

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        1. mr messi
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          A 4.5m like Bramble or maybe Enrique at 5m if he goes to Pool.

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        2. Heytch
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          I think Baines is a really nice option Rounds 2-5.

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  30. Heytch
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Getting closer to my final iteration pending injuries I think...

    Given (De Vries)

    Baines Luiz Kompany M.Kelly (Briggs)

    Lampard N'Zogbia Taarabt Moses (Sinclair)

    Rooney Holt (K.Jones)

    Will look to trade Kenwyn for DJ Campbell if it comes in at cheap price and get some money in the bank as I will be gearing any/all trades towards bringing in VDV and RVP from GW4

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    1. InRafaWeTrust
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Martin Kelly probably wont start

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      1. Heytch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks for heads-up. Who he favouring at FB to go with GJohnson? Not too worried. I have Rafael and Gibbs up my sleeve. Ultimately I want a big 4/5 defender at 5.5.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Enrique is close to signing. Bargain at 5.0

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          1. Heytch
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            OK. Thanks very much. Will bring in Jose and watch this space...

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