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27 August 2011 3390 comments
Mark Mark
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When it comes to Fantasy talent, more often or not, you get what you pay for.

When the pre-season price lists emerged, we spent the weeks before kick-off lamenting the price of established heavy-hitters and harbouring hopes that a string of mid-price midfield talent could fill gaps in our squads. The savvy Fantasy manager could see the potential. There were secret meetings about the promise of Victor Moses, whispered pub conversations about the prospects of Jamie O’Hara.

Consistency comes as a price, however. When we take a punt on mid-price talent, we’re not in a position to rage when the points aren’t delivered. We will rage regardless but, when the mists clear, the reality is that we have to have patience to get the most from these players.

Or do we? With an international break denying us Fantasy action next weekend, there’s now an alarming gap between Gameweeks – a yawning void that can easily prompt the sturdiest of knees to twitch into a full blown jerk; particularly if the Gameweeks have so far failed to deliver.

There will be glares of frustration aimed at an array of players, many of which came into the season with weighty expectations on their shoulders. You can take the aforementioned Moses and O’Hara and add Scott Sinclair, Adel Taarabt, Stephane Sessegnon and, in particular Charles N’Zogbia – currently the third most owned midfielder in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game. Should Chris Brunt and Stewart Downing draw further blanks in their matches this weekend, you can then throw their names into the hat.

A hit-list? A compilation of failing Fantasy talent that’s ripe for the chop? While the international break will tempt wholesale changes from the suffering Fantasy manager, short-term squad surgery has to be controlled. Our mid-price talent should surely be given time to demonstrate their worth.

The signs have been positive enough – Taarabt struck the woodwork twice at Wigan today, Moses had further opportunities and struck the bar at Swansea, Sinclair was also denied by the bar against Sunderland. Should we expect more? Did we really expect such players to deliver on their promise immediately?

The answer to that depends greatly on whether your heavy-hitters have been performing. If you’re without Wayne Rooney, Luis Suarez and David Silva, then their pulling power over the break will be substantial and is likely to prompt change. Come the revolution, the ailing mid-price midfielder could be first to go – downgraded to bench-warming fodder, sacrificed to bring in a big name elsewhere.

Such a decision has to be taken with care. That’s the thing about the consistency of a mid-price midfielder – just as we’re on dodgy ground when we’re berating its failure after three Gameweeks, we’ll only have ourselves to blame when it delivers on its promise out of the blue.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Mak_Gold
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Torres->RVP,Alex->Enrique both for free?Have exact cash so will have to do it tonight before Torres drops?If I wait,I'll have to settle for Torres->RVP,Toure->Ramsey.Already have Suarez and Rooney.

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    1. Dr Accrington Stanley
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Do it

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      1. Mak_Gold
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Cheers. 🙂

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  2. Forest4Life
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    18 is average this week. 70 is top

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  3. IceMan DB
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Have 2 freebies this week and need to transfer Torres our to get RVP. Will have to make another transfer to get that extra 1.0 so should I sell Baines, NZogbia or Sessegnon and for whom? Here's my team:

    Given Vorm
    Brown Baines Bos Simpson Delaet
    Sess Nzog Silva Dyer Surman
    Rooney Torres Suarez

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  4. ozone
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Torres out RVP in and does it feel sooooooooooooo good.

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  5. Scratch
    • 17 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Asked this already but nobody answered so here goes again.

    Is Vorm's score with 0 save points correct?
    BBC stats say Sunderland had 8 attempts on target so i'm half hoping Vorm's score is another FPL mistake..

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Nope it's correct.

      BBC counts crosses that the keeper catches as saves, and shots on target that are tame and caught by the keeper easily don't count as saves in FPL

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    2. Mighty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      BBC stats include blocks by defenders that were on going on target.

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      1. Mighty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        were going on*

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  6. HASHTAG
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Anyone know when the price drop for Torres will happen this weekend??wanna see united and city games and decide on whether to pick Rooney or Aguerro but worried that if I wait til then torres the pr*ck will have dropped?

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      tonight apparently

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  7. Forest4Life
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Why are so many getting Rvp. Aguero is the bargain to be had. Look at his fixtures

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      aguero rotated

      RVP starter and on pens and set pieces

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      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 17 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Agreed but even if he plays from the bench he is likely to still get a good haul of points...My two week Frankenstein I mean torres experiment is over. Manuel from fawlty towers would of been a better choice. Better still Manuel's Grandaughter would of been a better choice apparently....

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    2. Twinkle toes
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Tevez is the main problem here compared to chamakh

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  8. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Not feeling this Torres > RVP transfer wagon. RVP hasn't done enough to justify the significant outlay. He's going down in price right now, and even if they have nice fixtures, have you seen Arsenal's midfield? He's not going to get as many chances as people think he'll get.

    I think a City striker would be a better buy. Their fixtures are just as good, and their attacking play has been really impressive this season. Dzeko or Aguero.

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      With all due respect, i disagree.

      Can't go wrong with RVP against Swansea IMO, regardless of the turmoil Arsenal are in.

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      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 17 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Van Persie is 11.9 wait till he has fallen further...Arsenel might not get the ball off Swansea...:)

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      we'll have to see who wenger goes shopping for

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    3. Mighty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Agreed. I have RVP and am swapping him out for Rooney, and keeping Bent and Holt.

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        You're swapping RVP out before a home game against Swansea?

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      2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        The ramblings of a moron

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      3. Smarty Pants
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        it doesn't sound smart to me at all. not getting RvP might be justified, but losing a transfer to sell him before Swansea (home) is just madness

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    4. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Torres is playing shite, RVP hasn't scored granted, but he's on pens and free kicks. It's definitely a good transfer. City forward might be good but who do you get?

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        It's a toughie, but you stand to gain a lot. Aguero is safer, Dzeko could be amazing.

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        1. IceMan DB
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 12 months ago

          Would you still go for Aguero if you have Silva already and no Arsenal coverage?

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      2. Waldaz
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Well he scored against Udinese.

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    5. Tuchap - Lurker
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Was talking about this before, gotta agree with you here Camzy.

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    6. ...---...
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Personally, I jizzed in my underpants when I saw that the discerning persons Captain of choice for gameweek 4 had dropped in price overnight!

      Astonishing.

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  9. Smarty Pants
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Oh no, massive wildcarding means another flood of RMTs, grrr

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    1. Twinkle toes
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Also means massive price rises 🙂

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  10. Sarri-ball
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    my 2 free swaps done. Cant believe have took in RVP before a international game but gota avoid torres price drop.

    Torres-RVP
    Cole-Enrique

    Leaves me enough 2 do n,Zogbia-Walcott

    Good swaps?

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      hasn't rvp already been 'ruled out' of the international due to 'injury' 😉

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      1. Leysh
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Not if he plans to play tomorrow? 😛

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    2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      madness this early, anything could happen in international break

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    3. The Hitch Hikers Guide to t…
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      I wouold have picked up Rooney.

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  11. Forest4Life
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Tevez could be gold

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  12. Dr Accrington Stanley
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Is 7 a good score this week? I still have Almunia and Palacios to play. What do you think? And how did you all do?

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    1. The Hitch Hikers Guide to t…
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      well i got 30... i still got Augero silva nani.
      🙂

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  13. Jake9
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Which option is better
    1)Mata,Odemwingie,Jarvis,Brunt,R Taylor,Richards +0.3

    Or

    2)Dempsey,Bent,O'Hara,Moses Simpson and Kompany

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  14. Twinkle toes
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    By the way anyone know of Moses assist. On bbc it credits Rodallega as first assist in live text but then in the match report it says Di Santo latched onto a Moses through ball. Guess MOTD will answer me but any ideas before the inevitable last game on

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      It was Rodallega

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      1. Twinkle toes
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Thanks was kinda hoping, Moses out for me but looking to get back in as soon as fixtures clear up he has a lot of potential at a great price

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  15. Mighty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Anybody know how Kolo Toure's return will alter the current City backline?

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  16. Geezer
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    will torres go down tonight? I want to wait with my transfers until after the international matches and deadline day. but don`t want to loose money. Why is everybody doing their transfers anyway? why don`t wait and see if the players you want is getting injured in the international break?

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    1. Twinkle toes
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Market forces unfortunately fear of a player decreasing and another increasing means people are forced into transfers. Rather annoying but thats the way it goes. Take your chance or lose out basically

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      1. Geezer
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Yeah I know. But if everybody had waited, then the prices wouldn`t go up and down.

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  17. David
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Hi All,
    Does anyone know if prices rise/fall at the exact moment they reach the target figure?
    Or do they change at a set time eg. midnight, 10pm 11pm etc?

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    1. Twinkle toes
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Change at 1am or 2 am I think

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    2. Mull
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Usually 1am or 2am BST.

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    3. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      1am

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  18. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    RVP to get Injured in international week. It's happening.
    Not breaking up this Roo, Suarez, Bent forward line.
    Making changes so early is absolute madness IMO

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  19. clauxy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Is it really worth it too wildcard right now, even if my team is 100.3? or save the wildcard?

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    1. Dre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      save the wildcard!

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  20. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    In quite a few years this feels like, and prob is, the strangest start to FPL ever. I love it. No one knows where to look or what to do.

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    1. Mull
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      I only started a few weeks into last season so this is my first start. When I look back at some of the players history it looks so much easier because you had players like Drogba, Torres, Rooney all on top form.

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      1. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Correct. Good luck. And that my friend is the 12th player

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        sorry? when was torres on top form?

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  21. bwhite1291
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Should I drop Torres for Aguero and also Baines for 5 mil defender to make room to replace Sess for Mata? Or downgrade Torres to immediately put Mata in and keep Baines?

    My other Strikers are Roondog and Suarez

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    1. bwhite1291
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      I have 2 transfers so I wouldnt take a hit

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      1. Tracksuit Manager
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        i count three transfers in your proposal.

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        1. bwhite1291
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 12 months ago

          Sorry I didn't make it clear...I would have to wait until the next week to pick up Mata without a penalty. I understand that. But is it worth dropping Baines or downgrading Torres instead of taking Aguero and having a midfield with Silva as the only heavy hitter?

          This is my squad

          Given (Vorm)
          Baines, Bosingwa Kompany (Simpson, Tate)
          Silva, Moses, Sess, Sinclair (Ferguson)
          Torres, Rooney, Suarez

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  22. User
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    http://uk.premiership.fantasysports.yahoo.com/football/1531

    Not doing too badly. 😛 Shame there's no prizes AFAIK.

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  23. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Who's wildcarding?

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    1. Leysh
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      I am

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    2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      no way, I love my team....

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  24. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    my 3 strikers

    RVP Suarez and Bent

    my only concern is not bent but his manager and lack of attacking

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  25. David
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Cheers TT

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  26. Twinkle toes
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Off subject did anyone watch the World Atletics thingy today. Otis from gadget show (potential olympic presenter) presented today and had a mare. Bit gutted for him but he couldnt string a sentence together

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  27. Leysh
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    To anyone who is unaware and planning to get RVP. Do bare in mind that he has TWO international matches between his match tomorrow and his match against Swansea.

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      i already have him since day 1

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      I know one is Sam Marino, who is the other against?

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      1. Leysh
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 12 months ago

        Finland. Both Qualifers

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    3. Pasqualinho
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      He might not - he might get injured in the first one.

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  28. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    ooooo World Champs are on C4 from 1am tonight for anyone interested

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    1. Marknlard
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      12.45 tomorrow afternoon for Bolt in the 100m final.

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  29. HASHTAG
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    Who should I transfer in for Torres??Have 1.4mil in the bank and other 2 strikers bent and long??Thinking Roondawg or RVP,but holland internationals usually kill RVP..maybe city striker??any thoughts

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  30. Pabster
    • 17 Years
    14 years, 12 months ago

    If you click on the my handle above, you will see a mess. A disgusting, hideous mess. Look away if you can. If you can't let me know if you think I can get away with two transfers rather than a wildcard. The problems I'm facing have names, and they are listed below, in no particular order, though a brief description of what they have foisted upon me ...

    Saha (vomit)
    Torres (diarrhea)
    Sessegnon (constipation)
    Sinclair (acid reflux)
    Moses (cold sores)
    Baines (bloody nose)
    Hilario (hemmorhoids)
    Ruddy (an erection lasting longer than four hours)

    So, the way I see it, at the absolute minumim, I have to make three transfers. I need a goalkeeper and I need to get rid of Saha and Torres. Should I settle for a four-point hit, or do I need to wildcard these ailments away?

    Or should I just put myself out of my misery?

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    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Repost

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 12 months ago

      Just become a fantasy foot scout instead 🙂

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