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28 August 2011 1470 comments
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We open the Dugout Discussion for the final four fixtures of the gameweek, and the month, before we take our first International Break breather.

Newcastle versus Fulham kicks us off with the home side calling in Peter Lovenkrands for the now departed Joey Barton and Leon Best filling a Shola Ameobi sized void. The visitors meanwhile welcome Chris Baird and Matthew Briggs at the back with a host of changes made to their midfield and attack…

Newcastle XI: Krul, Simpson, Steven Taylor, Coloccini, Ryan Taylor, Lovenkrands, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez, Obertan, Best

Fulham XI: Schwarzer, Briggs, Hughes, Hangeland, Baird, Dempsey, Murphy, Sidwell, Duff, Dembele, Kasami.

Half an hour later Spurs are left to pick themselves up from their defeat to Man United to welcome Man City for their first home game of the season.

Despite talk of an impending departure for Peter Crouch he lines up for ‘Arry with Luka Modric also in the mixer. Roberto Mancini rewards Micah Richards with a new contract and a place on the bench as he, Aleksander Kolarov and James Milner drop out for Pablo Zabaleta, Gael Clichy and new signing Samir Nasri…

Spurs XI: Friedel; Corluka, Dawson, Kaboul, Assou-Ekotto; Lennon, Kranjcar, Modric, Bale; Van der Vaart, Crouch.

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Barry, Yaya, Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko

The Dugout Discussion will be around for all four games as West Brom vs Stoke and, the big one, Man United vs Arsenal round out the day, week and month.

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  1. Demí
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Cheers Andy

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  2. Voronin
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Stay on the bench Richards, pppplllleeeeaaaassseee!!!

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    1. Voronin
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      And Senderos!

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      1. User
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        And A Johnson!

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  3. blauriecon
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Silva N'Zogbia Brunt Sinclair Moses
    Rooney Torres Suarez
    2 Free Transfers
    Torres on way out
    Best high/mid/low priced options?
    Low/Mid/High allows 2/1/0 upgrades to midfield
    Suggestions?

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    1. blauriecon
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      My thoughts Aguero(High)/Szeko(Mid)/Holt or Long (Low)
      With Adams and Mata Upgrades for Sinclair and N'Zogbia

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  4. Top 210 Club
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    For you Sturridge doubters, Yes, he will start. Quote “The Portguese coach also praised England Under-21 striker Daniel Sturridge, who was on loan to Bolton in the second half of last season but looks set to feature in Chelsea’s plans this year.

    “He has been sparking in this pre-season. It is nothing new, it is what he was doing in Bolton and he deserves his chance,” Villas-Boas said after seeing Sturridge score twice on Saturday.

    “He has been showing his qualities and we will count on him this season with a different perspective.”

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  5. Damo.
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    If I kiss enough ass can I become part of the crew

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  6. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Biggest anti-climax in the history of athletics. Oh my god.

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    1. Top 210 Club
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      LOL Garg

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    2. AP
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      Agreed. Disqualifications SUCK.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Oh dear

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  7. Madridista
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    One quick question guys, say YES or NO.

    Will I beat my rival who is on 52 right now with Brunt to play (I am on 39 with Smalling, Rooney and Cleverley to play)?

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    1. Madridista
      • 15 Years
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      and captain Bale too!!!

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
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        definitely

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        1. Gregor
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          Easily.

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      2. divvy
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        maybe

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  8. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Newcastle Fulham 1-1
    Spurs City 1-3
    WBrom 0-0 Stoke
    Arsenal Utd 1-4

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    1. Akers
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I reckon Spurs'll do 'em.

      I got Citeh's scores perfect in GW1 and GW2...

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
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        Spurs have zero tacklers in midfield v Siva, Nasri and YaYa, no way jose

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  9. Baines on Toast...
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Richards and Senderos on the bench, rethinks for a lot of people I think.

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  10. AP
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    "They didn’t have the touch of arrogance that would come in the Henry years when their attitude was ‘you can’t touch us, we’re French and we’re brilliant’".

    Still chuckling about this. GNev for PM.

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    1. Shakey
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      It was the best side to grace English football though.

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      1. AP
        • 16 Years
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        Soft belly.

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        1. Shakey
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          14 years, 8 months ago

          Sides with soft bellies usually don't go 49 games unbeaten.

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          1. AP
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            The best side to 'grace' English football should probably win in europe too. Oh, they didn't? Oh well.

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            1. Shakey
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              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003%E2%80%9304_FA_Premier_League#Final_league_table

              😀

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              1. AP
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                14 years, 8 months ago

                http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nc6Hm0AHHFQ/TeDsxj3GBuI/AAAAAAAACLk/pvbzhZXEAyY/s1600/champions_league_2008.jpg

                😛

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                1. Shakey
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  post-calciopolli.

                  Not quite as big a challenge as it was 2001-2004

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                  1. AP
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    Invincible indeed! Beaten by a team with Scott Parker. Bahaha.

                    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/apr/06/minutebyminute.sport

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                  2. Shakey
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    Teams win the Champions League every year.

                    An unbeaten season? that comes along once in a lifetime.

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                  3. Shakey
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                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    No matter how shit Arsenal will be, the unbeaten season will always get United fans.

                    You could win another 19 league titles, you'll never match what that Arsenal side did. 😀 😀

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                  4. AP
                    • 16 Years
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                    Teams other than arsenal win the champions league every year. True.

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                  5. AP
                    • 16 Years
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                    An unbeaten run over 19 league titles? Bahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... cough splutter... hehehehehehhohoohohohoh.

                    Textbook arsenal fan. Brilliant. 😀

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          2. Dave Bauer
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            We beat you at Highbury.

            That pathetic Pires cheating didn't count, so Arsenal 0 Portsmouth 1 (Sheringham)

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            1. Shakey
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              I'm pretty sure it did count.

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              1. Dave Bauer
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                Well OK, maybe it did.

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            2. AP
              • 16 Years
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              +1

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I thought a lot about it when I went shopping earlier too and I think it's small minded, borderline racist and a glimpse I wish I never had into the mind of a bitter and insecure human.

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      1. AP
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/489825-should-i-buy-rolex-sub-16610-first-watch-notsureifserious_re_oops_he_tripped_and_fell-s469x304-179758.jpg

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      2. Akers
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        But that attitude is why United beat them (cue comments about Rooney's "dive"). He says that other sides were just in awe and gave them too much respect. A lot of top athletes, managers, clubs, etc. are arseholes, but like it or not it's part-and-parcel of having that winning mentality and belief.

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        1. Shakey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          See, didn't even have to say it. You already know.

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          1. Akers
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            All I knew was what you'd pull out that excuse for losing. Stone wall.

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            1. Shakey
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              Out of interest do you just say that to "win" an argument, or are you actually that deluded?

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        2. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I think there is a difference between playing tough against a good side and spreading venom in the media seven years later. Surely Manchester United could have beaten Arsenal without him reverting to racial sterotypes as fuel.

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          1. CFCTom
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Manchester United never win with 'football'.

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        3. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          odd use of ""

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          1. CFCTom
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Being that I used '', it was a very ood use indeed applebonkerz... :/

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            1. CFCTom
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              *odd, Parker's going to Spurs.

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            2. applebonkers
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              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              wasn't for you women beater. was for rooney's "dive." it's greg-esque use. he is gregs dad and rooney clearly did dive

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              1. CFCTom
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                Woman beater? Haha. And oh right, my bad.

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  11. Joggers Nipple
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Guess that stops the interest that was happening around Richards.
    Hart and Kompany, the only ways into MC defence

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    1. Top 210 Club
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      +1

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    2. Madridista
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Yes, Hart & Co. for MCY's defence

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    3. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Champions league rotation too, really annoying.

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  12. A-Team
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Assou-Ekotto vs Aguero for the A-Team. A City goal with no involvement from Aguero would be depressing.

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  13. jayzico
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    amy childs. has very nice breasts. just thought id say that whilst my girlfriend is on a run. when does the vajazzling happen? im semi into this show

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      lol.... i dont think semi would be the right word to be using Jay, 😉

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      1. jayzico
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        haha. totally man. just put river shitty on. great acting lol. hows your team doing green?

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          not bad at the moment. overall 146. on 44 this week with wellbeck , yaya and simpson to play and hopefully baps for Lamps (C).

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          1. jayzico
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            sweet. lamps is a keeper for me at mo. captain too. need charles adam man...

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            1. CFCTom
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              If only somebody had told you that before...

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              1. jayzico
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                sweet retort tom. i knew it already mate. im wayyyyyy more chelsea than youll ever be pal x

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                1. CFCTom
                  • 14 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  Of course, your 'old man' captained Scotland to world cup glory or something didn't he? Well, regardless of that bollox, one us is a real Chelsea fan and supporter and has been all his life, and not just when Chelsea are winning mate, and its not you. 'Wayyyyy more Chelsea than I'll ever be'? I doubt that.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Trouble is there is a mouth connected to that body!!

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        In fact I seem to remember her not knowing where North London was!!
        (not the I watched TOWIE at all!!)

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        1. jayzico
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          her mouth is lovely drogs 😛

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Shuuuuuuuuuuuup!

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            1. jayzico
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              lol. ok sorry

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  14. JWF
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    How shite is the quality of C4's coverage of the Athletics?! Looks like it's an internet stream. HD my arse.

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  15. MCM
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    0-0 New/Ful

    0-2 WB/Stoke

    1-2 TH/City

    3-0 MU/Arsenal

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  16. JWF
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    So Corluka starts for Spurs. Gulp.

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    1. Gregor
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      No defensive midfielders facing a team with Silva and Aguero in it, astonishing.

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      1. Get up ya bum
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        I think all their cm's are injured

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      2. JWF
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Yup. Could be ugly although I'm looking forward to seeing how Kranc and Mods play together in the middle.

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      3. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        It could get messy in there. Niko and Modric doesn't look good to me. I thought Thud was fit?

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        1. JWF
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Clearly not ready for a full 90 although I would've started him and tried to get an hour out of him. Team looks 4 or 5 quality players short... then again, when hasn't it.

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          1. denial
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Yep. Team looks weaker than last season. Badly need Diarra or Parker in there for me.

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  17. Prhymeate
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    richards is a rotation risk now? I thought he’d been playing really well.

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    1. JWF
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He plays for Man City.

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  18. MCM
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone else watching the F1?

    Absolutely love Spa!

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    1. JWF
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Not loving Hamilton getting overtaken left, right and centre though.

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    2. Damo.
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Love it. Been there twice.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        So have I. hey are doing a deal on Ginsters at the moment too

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    3. MCH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Unreal start from Rosberg!

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  19. HellasLEAF
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Richards will outscore Kompany by seasons end, still the better buy. The odd benching not a big deal, your gets a shift and most of the time our subs have been putting up excellent numbers.

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    1. HellasLEAF
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      your *sub

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    2. hellequin
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I agree. I think Mancini will leave richards out when he wants more security in the back four ---> against top 4 opposition or the better teams within the league away from home

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  20. THE BAD
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Barry, Yaya, Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko

    Man city are really strong this year...

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    1. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I agree but you shouldn't have begun that sentence with Barry!

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  21. Arse Craic
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Wildcard time? My team value has dropped to 99.7m.

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    1. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      depends what the team is really. you've already missed out on a number of price rises last night if that is the main reason to WC

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      1. Arse Craic
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I've got Saha. Need I say more?

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        1. Fray Bentos
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          might be a good idea - though you really should've done so yesterday!

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  22. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    richards and senderos shown up as rotation threats. loving it

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    1. applebonkers
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      and andy johnson. hattrick

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  23. CFCTom
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I would gladly try to chew my own lips off if it meant I didn't have to watch Formula 1.

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    1. MCH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Can you not just change to something else?

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I suppose...

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  24. Forest4Life
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Newcastle 3-0 Fulham
    Spurs 0-1 City

    West Brom 2-1 Stoke
    Man United 1-0 Arsenal
    Forest 1-1 West Ham

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  25. JapBen
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Vorm, Given
    Bosingwa, Baines Enrique, Brown, Richards
    N’Zog, Silva, Sinclair, Moses, Hoolahan
    Torres, Bent, Long

    I have 1 free transfer and was thinking of Torres to Bent but I could also do with getting out N’Zog, Hoolahan and Richards and trying to get in Dzeko, Agueroa or RVP. Should I make 1-2 transfers or WC? What do you recommend? Cheers!

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    1. JapBen
      • 15 Years
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      sorry I meant Torres to Suarez (not Bent as I already have him)

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      1. Forest4Life
        • 14 Years
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        Torres to Aguero

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      2. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
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        Any spare cash?

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        1. JapBen
          • 15 Years
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          1.3M

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          1. Fray Bentos
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            torres to RVP

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            1. JapBen
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              that makes sense based on fixtures but Suarez and Rooney seem to be the most in-form strikers, playing really well against anyone and Dzeko or Aguero could be worth buying depending on their performances today?

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            2. HuttonDressedasLahm
              • 16 Years
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              Exactamundo

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              1. JapBen
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                but that gives me 5 strikers to choose from! all with pluses and minuses and I can only get 1 for Torres....?

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Torres out for one of Suarez, Rooney and RVP. I would go with Suarez since he has form and his price is a bargain.

      Rooney seems a safer pick than RVP based on form but fixtures are awful and if RVP avoids injury then fixtures against Swansea and Blackburn have loads of potential, plus the run of games afterwards is decent.

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      1. JapBen
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks! Initially I was thinking Suarez for Torres and maybe getting another striker (Rooney/RVP/Dzeko/Aguero) for Bent or Long at a later date

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  26. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Think City will drop their first points today. Spurs players should be fired up after the rout at Old Trafford last time.

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    1. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      spurs and gooners wins would be nice - LFC still on top of the pile by tonight!

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    2. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      With Kranjar as CM? Like the sentiment but highly doubt it.

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Ehrm yeah it sounded better before you pointed that out.

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          When Scott 'invincible slayer' Parker signs, they'll be sorted.

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          1. Shakey
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            Actually, he's the only one of that Chelsea team who isn't.

            He played in the first half, on the right side of midfield, and we completely overran them, and went in 1-0 up.

            He was subbed at half time for Gronkjaer, who pushed Ashley Cole back, and got them back into the game.

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            1. AP
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/out-fished-dad-jason-bordash.jpg

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              1. Shakey
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                yeah, I know, just thought I'd raise the tone a little with some retro tactics chat.

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                1. AP
                  • 16 Years
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                  +1 for memory skills.

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      2. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        +1
        I'd put money on a sending off for Spurs too toady. They will get overpowered and frustrated

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      3. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Niko is going to get badly bullied by YaYa.

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    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I don't. Spurs midfield is going to get overrun.

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  27. marshy17
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    i honestly dont know how milner sticks man city...time and again he plays quality and has a good run of form only to be replaced imediately by a new signing...i know he is on good money but he is rapidly falling down the international pecking order.

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    1. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He doesn't care.

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  28. Forest4Life
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Spurs should have started Huddlestone

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  29. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    More rotation problems for Fulham defence then..

    http://www.football-italia.net/aug28h.html

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  30. andres
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    does FPL work without problem on iPad2??

    Thx

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