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With friendlies across the globe, vital World Cup qualifiers and winner-takes-all Euro 2012 play-offs all on the agenda, there’s plenty for us Fantasy managers to fret about over the next few days.

Last night’s game in the Amsterdam Arena was a case in point- the sight of Rafael Van der Vaart clutching his hamstring as he limped off the pitch in Holland’s goalless draw with Switzerland was a nightmare scenario come true. As of yet, though, there has been no official update to confirm he’s out- it may well just be precautionary.

For now, then, us Fantasy managers are stuck in a no man’s land; all we can do is sit back with fingers crossed, hoping our players come through unscathed and ticking off the games one by one as we frantically wait for the post-match reports.

Read on for our comprehensive guide to the action and events so far, with details of those set to be involved in the coming week…

Arsenal

Robin Van Persie, owned by 22.9% of Fantasy managers, came through Holland’s friendly with Switzerland unscathed last night. The good news for Fantasy managers is that Arsene Wenger has struck a deal with the Dutch management which allows Van Persie to fly back to London to rest, rather than participate in next week’s friendly with Germany. Johan Djourou also played the ninety minutes without issue. Elsewhere, Aaron Ramsey, Theo Walcott, Per Mertesacker, Johan Djourou, Laurent Koscielny, Tomas Rosicky and Andrei Arshavin could all feature twice for their nations, whilst Gervinho has a lengthy trip to South Africa with the Ivory Coast for their game today.

Aston Villa

Shay Given, in 22.4% of FPL teams, kept a clean sheet in the Republic of Ireland’s first leg Euro 2012 play-off against Estonia, with the return on 15/11. Gabby Agbonlahor, selected by 16.9% of FPL managers, has been ruled out of England’s games and reported had scans on his hamstring injury yesterday. Team-mate Darren Bent may clock up some more minutes over England’s two friendlies. Richard Dunne also featured for the Republic of Ireland in their triumph last night and will be expected to start again on Tuesday.

Blackburn Rovers

Lying near the foot of the Premier League table, it is unsurprising that investment in Rovers’ players in minimal. David Goodwillie, Morten Gamst Pederson, Martin Olsson, Grant Hanley and Simon Vukcevic –who played in Montenegro’s 2-0 loss to the Czech Republic last night- are all in line to feature for their respective nations. Whilst Radoslav Petrovic may be the most affected as Serbia face two games in Central America.

Bolton

Gary Cahill, in 23.0% of FPL teams, seems to have cemented himself as a favourite under Fabio Capello and will certainly feature at some point for England in their friendlies. Elsewhere, it’s slim pickings for Bolton, with Ivan Klasnic dropped by Croatia and reserve keeper Adam Bogdan in line to represent Hungary.

Chelsea

Jose Bosingwa, a Fantasy favourite with 21.6% ownership, has been left out of the Portugal squad and could therefore be recalled against Liverpool given his freshness when compared with Branislav Ivanovic, who played in Serbia’s 2-0 loss to Mexico and has another friendly on Monday. David Luiz is in store for a long distance haul with Brazil – he played 90 minutes on Thursday against Gabon and will face Egypt on Monday. John Terry faces two games with England, while Raul Meireles may feel the strain by playing twice for Portugal against Bosnia-Herzegovina. Given that Ramires has been left out of Brazil’s squad, he looks to be nailed on to feature at Stamford Bridge. Elsewhere, Petr Cech came through the Czech Republic’s first-leg Euro 2012 play-off win over Montenegro without any problem, whilst Ashley Cole, Daniel Sturridge, Juan Mata, Fernando Torres and Salomon Kalou could all get some action for their respective nations.

Everton

Phil Jagielka sailed through training on Friday for England despite suffering from a toe injury- the centre-half is currently owned by 10.9% of Fantasy managers and could face Spain today and Sweden. Elsewhere, Seamus Coleman, Jack Rodwell, Tim Howard, Marouane Fellaini may also be involved, the latter played ninety minutes in Belgium’s 2-1 win over Romania last night. John Heitinga and Diniyar Bilyaletdinov could also see action.

Fulham

Brede Hangeland, who has 10.1% FPL ownership, and John Arne Riise are likely to play for Norway in their friendly against Wales in Cardiff today, giving them plenty of time to recover for their game with Sunderland next weekend. Clint Dempsey has two friendlies for the USA – he played 90 minutes in France last night – whilst Damien Duff and Stephen Kelly both started for the Republic of Ireland against Estonia, with the second leg to come on Tuesday. Mark Schwarzer, Patjim Kasami, Bobby Zamora and Moussa Dembele are also in line to represent their nations. Bryan Ruiz faces a lengthy trip to Central America for two games with Costa Rica, which could make him unlikely to feature in Martin Jol’s starting lineup at Sunderland next time out.

Liverpool

Luis Suarez, who is the fourth most selected FPL player with 33.7%, grabbed all four goals for Uruguay in the 4-0 rout of Chile in a World Cup qualifier last night. He now jets off to Italy for a friendly on Tuesday. With Andy Carroll left out of the England set-up, he could be nailed on to keep his place in Kenny Dalglish’s starting lineup. Elsewhere, Dirk Kuyt, Glenn Johnson, Stewart Downing, Pepe Reina, Craig Bellamy and Daniel Agger are all in the squads for their countries. There’s no place for Jose Enrique in the Spain squad set-up though, whilst Charlie Adam pulled out for Scotland last week.

Manchester City

David Silva, the highest owned player in the FPL game, will represent Spain in their friendly games with England and Costa Rica. The latter of these fixtures is the more significant, as the midfielder travels to Central America and the lengthy flight home, in addition to two games in five days, may take its toll. Sergio Aguero has aggravated a groin injury whilst with Argentina, ruling him out of the World Cup qualifier with Bolivia and making him a doubt for the clash with Colombia on Tuesday. Long flights, competitive matches and an ankle injury are sure to worry his 34.4% FPL ownership.

Edin Dzeko played ninety minutes last night for Bosnia-Herzegovina against Portugal and has a return match on Tuesday night. Mario Balotelli scored one and assisted the other in Italy’s 2-0 win over Poland last night and now faces Uruguay on Tuesday. Vincent Kompany turned out for Belgium, Stefan Savic played for Montenegro and Nigel De Jong for Holland, while Joe Hart, Joleon Lescott, Gareth Barry, Adam Johnson, James Milner, Yaya and Kolo Toure should all get some action for their nations. Aleksandar Kolarov was sent off in Serbia’s 2-0 defeat to Mexico, picking up a second yellow card for a foul on Javier Hernandez.

Manchester United

Nani, currently owned by 26.0% of teams, turned out for Portugal last night for their Euro 2012 first leg play-off with Bosnia-Herzegovina. He faces a return leg on Tuesday, which, barring injury, should see him okay for consideration for United’s clash with Swansea. Sir Alex Ferguson clearly has options in this are but one such option, Antonio Valencia, played 90-minutes for Ecuador yesterday as they lost 2-1 to Paraguay in their World Cup qualifier. He faces another tie with Peru on Tuesday, meaning that both Nani and Valencia will go into the Swansea clash having played two competitive matches over the break.

Javier Hernandez grabbed a goal in Mexico’s 2-0 home win over Serbia but should be fit and recovered from the long flight in time for next weekend. Wayne Rooney, selected by 37.3% of Fantasy managers, is out of the England frame for the time being, but Danny Welbeck and Phil Jones should both feature. Fabio Da Silva has been chosen for Brazil and played 45 minutes in the 2-0 win over Gabon on Thursday. He faces another friendly with Egypt on Monday; that could yet be a factor in his chances of figuring at Swansea.

Newcastle

Cheik Tiote, owned by 12.6% of FPL teams, has been drafted into the Ivory Coast squad for their game with South Africa today, although he seems unlikely to feature, given he’s missed the last two league games with a knee problem. Yohan Cabaye has been included in the France squad for their friendlies and was an unused sub against the USA last night, with Tuesday’s clash against Belgium to follow. Tim Krul sat on the bench for Holland against Switzerland and faces Germany on Tuesday. Elsewhere, Leon Best was in the Republic of Ireland squad and could yet feature in their second leg on Tuesday.

Norwich

The international break shouldn’t influence things at Carrow Road too much. Steve Morison and Andrew Crofts have both been selected in the Wales squad for their game with Norway today.

QPR

Jamie Mackie scored for Scotland last night against Cyprus, but team-mate Danny Gabbidon has been ignored by Wales. Adel Taarabt and Armand Traore are the main concerns for Neil Warnock – both are included in the Morocco and Senegal squads respectively and face two friendlies over the break, with Taarabt facing Gabon on Wednesday.

Stoke

Asmir Begovic, who is selected by 14.3% of FPL Managers, played for Bosnia-Herzegovina last night in the Euro 2012 play-off against Portugal. The second leg is on Tuesday. His understudy, Thomas Sorensen, is also away for two friendlies with Denmark. Jon Walters currently holds a 9.9% FPL ownership and scored for the Republic of Ireland in their crucial play-off games with Estonia last night. He could feature again on Tuesday, along with Glenn Whelan who also figured last night. Tony Pulis will be hoping that both earn some form of rest given the aggregate score in the tie.

Sunderland

Seb Larsson is the most prized Fantasy asset to feature over the international break with an ownership of 13.8%. The midfielder played the full ninety minutes in Sweden’s 2-0 loss to Denmark last night, with Nicklas Bendtner opening the scoring for the hosts. Larsson is set to feature against England in midweek but is then suspended for his club’s next league encounter with Fulham. Elsewhere, Kieren Westwood, David Vaughan, John O’Shea could all play roles for their nations, though with the Republic of Ireland 4-0 up from their first leg, it seems unlikely O’Shea’s hamstring problem will be risked on Tuesday if doubts remain. South Korean striker Dong-Won Ji started in World Cup qualifier with United Arab Emirates yesterday – he was subbed at half-time. He faces another trip to face Lebanon on Tuesday – a concern for Steve Bruce given that he is set to feature against Fulham with Connor Wickham surely set to be sidelined.

Swansea

Flavour of the month goalkeeper Michel Vorm, who is currently selected by 24.0% of Fantasy Managers, was called up to the Netherlands squad for their friendlies with Switzerland and Germany. He was an unused sub last night, though may feature in the second game on 15/11. Swans trio Neil Taylor, Ashley Williams and Joe Allen have all been called up to the Welsh squad and could feature in today’s game.

Tottenham

As already mentioned, Rafael Van der Vaart, currently in 19.2% of teams, limped out of Holland’s game with Switzerland last night and may miss the midweek friendly with Germany. Whilst Gareth Bale, owned by 17.9% of FPL teams, is likely to play for Wales against Norway today. Luka Modric and Vedran Corluka both played in Croatia’s 3-0 win in Turkey last night, with the latter scoring. The second leg of their crunch Euro 2012 play-off is on Tuesday. Elsewhere, Roman Pavlyuchenko, Kyle Walker and Scott Parker could feature for their respective countries and Steven Pienaar is making the long trip to South Africa to face the Ivory Coast today. Sandro returned to action following injury and played 90 minutes for Brazil on Thursday – he could figure again in a friendly with Egypt on Monday.

West Brom

It’s fair to say that West Brom players are hardly standing out as FPL staples this season and the international break shouldn’t do too much damage Fantasy-wise, as far as Roy Hodgson is concerned it will come as a welcome break. Simon Cox, Jonas Olsson and James Morrison have all been included in their respective national team’s squads. Cox was given seven minutes as a sub for the Republic of Ireland last night and could figure in Tuesday’s second-leg.

Wigan

Ali Al-Habsi is by far the most selected player for Roberto Martinez’s side with 14.1% FPL ownership. The goalkeeper features twice in two crucial World Cup 2014 qualifiers for Oman over the break. He played in last night’s 1-0 win over Australia and will face Saudi Arabia on Tuesday. James McArthur, Gary Caldwell and James McCarthy make up the other international inclusions.

Wolves

Wolves’ most-owned inclusion over the international break is Stephen Ward, currently in 12.4% of teams. He played the full ninety minutes in the Republic of Ireland’s first-leg Euro 2012 play-off game against Estonia last night. Stephen Hunt had a brief sub cameo, while Kevin Doyle wasn’t included amongst the subs. The second leg, on Tuesday, should be far less strenuous than first imagined, given the 4-0 lead they take into the game. Wayne Hennessey, David Edwards, Sam Vokes and Christophe Berra are all representing Home Nation sides.

johnfinlay John swears he'll deliver unbiased Fantasy Premier League tips and news...until Leeds get promoted.

  1. andy85wsm
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    Scott Parker gets sooooooooooooooooooooo much stick on here but tonight he was brilliant. Lescott and Jagielka great too. Welbeck did a nice job when he came on, not that he had much to do. Very disciplined performance. Not pretty, but we won!

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    1. AP
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      +100. Parker was class, as were the CBs. I thought Rodwell looked comfortable too.

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      1. Kuqi Monster
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        I thought all the young players played well, think they are definately putting some pressure on the more established players...

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      2. andy85wsm
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        Yeah he looked good. I'd love to see Capello take some risks with younger players but we need a bit less tinkering between now and 2012 Euros. We ain't winning, no-one is that optimistic but lets give it a go!

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    2. applebonkers
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      you say that but other than jamsiep who rips into parker?

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      1. Granville
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        STB

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      2. andy85wsm
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        Always feels like there's a "Scott Parker: world's greatest footballer" or some post knocking about when he's playing. Maybe it's just JamsieP posting multiple times 🙂

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        1. andy85wsm
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          And I think I take the "he gets stick on here a lot" from the fact he gets stick on Twitter by people I follow because they post here 🙂

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          1. applebonkers
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            i can sort of see the stick, getting the award despite his side finishing bottom. my opinion was always they would have been relegated long before without him

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            1. andy85wsm
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              My opinion was pretty much the same as yours. I agree with them that he wasn't worthy of the award but that doesn't automatically make him a bad player. The way JamsieP goes on makes it sound like he should have kept West Ham up single handedly.

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            2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              He gives the ball away far too much ... so, no.

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  2. RÏɠBY
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    just watched the highlights of the 2010 worldcup final
    THAT is how you play spain.. kungfu style

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      😆

      Funny but the Dutch still lost.

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  3. Granville
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    Trust England to throw in a huge performance when I bet against them. That'll learn me.

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    1. Le Bluff
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      Snap!

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      It soitainly will ... 😉

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  4. CFCTom
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    Anyone say before the game that England would win? Me. Anyone say Spain would win? Oh yeah, everyone else. Hahaha. 😀

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    1. Kuqi Monster
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      I think you were claiming 3-0 though!

      I was reading earlier on how people were putting £100+ on spain, and hoping that England could pull it off!

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      1. CFCTom
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        I only found out mid-game a Lampard goal and a 1-0 win for us was 75/1, I would have put £5 on that. I may have even put it on a headed goal as thats all he is scoring at the minute. That would have around 100/1. So I would have been £500 up... 🙁

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
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          Stop being silly Tom.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Errr ... me?

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    3. cechmate
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      Lots of people...? Spain have a terrible recent record in friendlies. Lost 2-1 v Italy, 4-1 v Argentina, 4-0 v Portugal. Don't think this result should be a surprise to anyone...

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  5. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Jagielka and Milner had better games for England than parker imo.

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Don't agree on Milner and wouldn't say Jagielka was better (just as good imo). Lescott was motm for me.

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        lol just as good and better... thin line. Milner had a good game, tracked and actually contributed to the attacking side. Parker had Jones to help him out.

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        1. andy85wsm
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          Not that thin - better means better just as good is the same 🙂

          Milner did have a good game but don't think he was better than Parker tonight. Just happy with the weekends football to be honest. Ireland and England winning was good. Was pleased for the irish!

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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            hon ireland

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Lescott was MOTM for me too ...

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      I completely agree. Parker is a GREAT tackler, but his distribution is Conference standard.

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Lescott and Jagileka the way forward. Forget the crock and the racist.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Another +42!!! 😀

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      2. RÏɠBY
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        definetly

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  6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Well, £2.00 @ 4/1 ... better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick!!! 😀 Oh - and minus £1.00 on the draw at 23/10 ... 😉

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  7. Kuqi Monster
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    Players that people want to start against sweden?

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Micah Richards instead of Johnson (yeah I know he's not in the squad)

      Adam Johnson instead of Milner

      Rodwell instead of Phil Jones

      Welbeck instead of Bent (Not that Bent did anything wrong just give Pele a chance!)

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      1. Kuqi Monster
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        I'd like to see kyle walker start at rb

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        1. andy85wsm
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          Me too as he's in the squad. To be fair I'd take anyone at RB over Glen Johnson, even though he did ok today

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      adam johnson

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  8. Davido989
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    Against Sweden I wanna see a team like this :

    Hart Walker Lescott Cahill A.Cole Parker Rodwell Lamps AdamJohnson Downing Welbeck

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Not Downing ... imo.

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    2. andy85wsm
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      NO GARY BLOODY CAHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Otherwise I kind of like it minus Downing.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Or, as applebonkers has dubbed him ..."Gary Baresi" ...! 😉

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        1. AP
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          AB gives him too much stick. If he wasn't a good player, all those clubs wouldn't be after him. Smalling looked dodgy at fulham remember.

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          1. andy85wsm
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            Ab may give him too much stick but he's not very good, or at least shouldn't be partnering Terry.

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          2. applebonkers
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            also smalling wasn't 25/26 with lots of premier league experience already

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          3. applebonkers
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            the joke is none of those teams are after him. arsenal went for him for 6mil and 'arry went for him because he's 'arry

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            1. AP
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              Where there's smoke there's fire. You don't know that they aren't after him, just like i don't know that they certainly are.

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              1. applebonkers
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                when owen coyle says at the end of july there have been no offers for cahill despite every paper going saying liverpool/arsenal/chelsea/tottenham want him that's good enough for me

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        2. Waldaz
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          lol, that's almost as good as Diego W.

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        Downing since he joined LFC 0 goals 0 assists, tonight he showed why, United got the better Villa winger

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          They really did - don't know what I was thinking, last season!!! 😮

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      Milner instead of Downing, Jags instead of Cahill.

      I agree that with the one lone striker we dont want Walcott on the wing, Wish Gabby was fit, him Milner and Welbeck would make quite a trio!

      Welbeck is a much better substitute than Bent in my opinion, albeit a better target man too

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  9. Neddy55
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    Lost £40. No bitterness. No bitterness except for Fabio's smug face -- why couldn't he produce 40% of that effort against Germany.

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    1. andy85wsm
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      The game where we scored to make it 2-2 and the result could have been so much different?

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      1. @ImpressiveTackl
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        Silly. Class would have shone through in the end and England were completely outclassed in that match.

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        1. andy85wsm
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          Not that silly really. We were outclassed but when you come from 2 goals behind to go 2-2 it changes things completely. No-one can say that might have happened.

          We were outclassed after having a goal disallowed and being 2-1 down at half time. Second half of course Germany were brilliant but we had lost all hope by then.

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          1. @ImpressiveTackl
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            Great teams don't lose hope at 2-1 down.

            I will admit it was a harsh decision but in football it happens and you have to win despite the decisions that go against you.

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    2. RÏɠBY
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      fabio when asked who played well couldn't remember the name of the players
      he had to be prompted.. can't get rid soon enough

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  10. @ImpressiveTackl
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    Great weekend for British and Irish football.

    Really looking forward to the Euros now and will be fully behind the teams. 😉

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      +42!!! 🙂

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    2. andy85wsm
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      I'll be fully behind the teams England.

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      1. @ImpressiveTackl
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        😆 fair enough.

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        1. andy85wsm
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          I'd like to see Ireland do well, just not better than England 😀

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          1. @ImpressiveTackl
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            We'll respectfully disagree.

            I want to do see both teams do well, even if it means one does better than the other.
            That said I doubt Ireland will do better than England.

            Of course should they meet in the groups or knockout stages the gloves would be off. 👿

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            1. Holy See
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              You can't have gloves without love. Lets all support each other guys. Or some similar hippy crap.

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    3. applebonkers
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      good win for wales too. they've got a decent young side bubbling away now

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      1. applebonkers
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        ignore that, just saw you said british, not english

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
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          Yeah I was including the Welsh in my original comment.

          Hopefully Speed and Co. can take this form into their WC qualifying campaign. If Bale and Bellamy can repeat their performances today they would stand their best chance in years.

          I was gutted for them when they lost that playoff against Russia a few years back.

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  11. andy85wsm
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    I'd like to dedicate this great England win to our best ever player. Great servant for club and country.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdBrOZ1YOM

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Best ever player?

      I hope you're kidding. A good few of the '66 winners would disagree.

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      1. Forest4Life
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        And Shilton and Pearce

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      2. andy85wsm
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        Kidding fo sho.

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        1. tangtastic
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          I would hope that you are joking.

          The idea that he is one of our 'best ever players' is a complete fabrication made up by the Team Beckham PR machine and the many tabloids that feed off it.

          George Best had it nailed. “He can't kick with his left foot, he can't tackle, he can't head the ball and he doesn't score many goals. Apart from that, he's all right.”

          I do not agree that he is a 'great servant to club and country'. Everything that man does is driven only by the furthering of his own brand. The fact that he's constantly promoting himself for the GB Olympic team is evidence of this. We can have 3 over age players.. how does a 36 year old David Beckham qualify for this? Is he in the top 3 overage British players available? Rhetorical question. I could list about a billion other instances which demonstrate similar narcissistic tendencies, but I really shouldn't have to.

          Sad fact is, if he wasn't for his looks and his lifestyle, he would've have won the amount of caps he has had. A massive overachiever, dependent on superficial qualities that feed the depressing muck distributing tabloids in this country.

          I cannot wait for his career to end. Although I do not doubt his management team will find as many ways as possible to keep him in the public spotlight. A sad reflection of modern football and celebrity culture. Style over substance. Vacuous and self serving.

          Rant over.

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          1. heco87
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            I think that's a bit over the top to be honest.

            David Beckham is a pretty inspirational guy .. he's one of a limited number of english players in recent years who has incredible technique. I've never seen anyone control a dead ball as well as he is capable of. You don't play for 2 of the best teams in the world and captain your country loads of times without being a top class player.

            In England, it's in our culture to put down our top talents and contributes to our own downfall on the world stage.

            I think he would be handy in the GB squad - good tournament experience, not playing in euro 2012 and someone for the younger ones to look up to - a real leader.

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            1. tangtastic
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              I'm not saying he never deserved to play for England at all, but I'd suggest his Captaining of the team has a lot to do with the reasons I mentioned in my original post rather than any real leadership qualities. He never Captained Man Utd or Real Madrid. But I suppose Sven wasn't managing those teams at the time.

              Having incredible technique, does not qualify you as one of 'Englands greatest ever players'. He could strike a dead ball very well of course, and if this technical ability stretched to dribbling and shooting skills I wouldn't be posting this comment.

              My point is, that he is vastly overrated and ultimately, massively self serving. I don't understand how he's 'inspirational'. All of his problems that he has 'overcome' have been entirely of his own making. This is exactly not the type of role model I'd want inspiring the younger generations. I accept that I would be in the minority in thinking this, but this just demonstrates the complete brainwashing of the masses via tabloid rags that Beckham is some sort of heroic figure. He is absolutely not.

              I completely disagree with you about team GB. I hope someone with sense is in charge and he isn't let anywhere within 100m of the team.

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              1. tangtastic
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                Someone with Sense

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                1. tangtastic
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                  .. being Stuart Pearce... hmm. Will be interesting to see what he does.

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  12. Ginkapo FPL
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    Scott Parker is 31 according to Wikipedia, gutted I was hoping he would be around for quite a few years, his involvement makes England so much better

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    1. Menly
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      Has the same effect with spurs

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        I just dont see any other similiar players out there, sure he has deficencies, but playing with a proper defense mid helps us play the proper England way. Stoic and Defient to the bitter end

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
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      The chance were Fabregas got in behind England's defence and tried to square the ball, I think Parker's tackle to intercept the ball there was World Class.

      Poor decision from Fabregas who could have easily scored himself but great determination and reading of the game from Parker.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        Fabregas had the only two clear cut chances for spain. Should have done better.

        Villa had a hard job to hit the target instead of the side netting from that tight angle at such speed, and the woodwork almost hit Glen Johnson first anyway, good defending in my opinion.

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  13. Menly
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    A great win lads. Finally a team that sort of works (in the broadest sense of the word!)

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  14. applebonkers
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    anyone got their paddypower bets refunded yet?

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  15. applebonkers
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    just read spain now have a 5000 mile round trip to costa rica. maybe the manager will agree to release silva

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  16. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Watch England lose to Sweden now.

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  17. Menly
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    Aaah bollocks i forgot my Gravatar password. Well i guess im stuck with this nonsense

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    1. Holy See
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      Was it 'gay' perchance? 😉

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      1. Menly
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        Not a bad idea actualy i'll try it

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    2. Menly
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      Watch your face ..... *insert insult of your choice*..... 🙂

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      1. Menly
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        Oops reply fail i meant to say that to Som Walters above!

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  18. Screaming Midget
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    Daniel Radcliffe has revealed that he was "dependent on alcohol" to make it through the final Harry Potter films.... That makes two of us.

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    1. Menly
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      lol

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  19. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    In the small amount of excitement tonight, no-one has commented on how exceptionally well young Phil Jones did ... 🙂

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    1. Granville
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      http://twitter.com/#!/OptaManc

      Typical.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        😆 I am not totally sure I needed that, G-G-Granville!!! 😉

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    2. Menly
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      So true and i was laughing at his midfield position!

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    3. applebonkers
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      england's swiss army knife

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  20. J0E
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    Scott Parker > Iniesta shocker.

    Re that ad just before saying 14-1 for Lampard to score...was tempted but didn't...looks preposterous odds with hindsight.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      "Nuttin' in loif id better dan six to oin" ...Damon Runyon

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  21. Granville
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    From Twitter:

    Switzerland's World Cup performance against Spain is suing England for breach of copyright.

    Bit unfair, funny all the same.

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    1. J0E
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      I'm sharing that....great quote.

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      1. Granville
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        I was at the Amex with 'In Like Flynn' the other night. Nice ground.

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        1. J0E
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          I popped back to my hometown the other week for the West Ham game to see it for the first time. Really impressive...room for another tier on the east and loads more seats in the corners....this is a quality premier league ground waiting to happen.

          ....even better than the old Goldstone with its redefussion sign and grass growing on the east stand.

          Hope you had a good time.

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    2. RÏɠBY
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      haha 🙂

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  22. Forest4Life
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Was Messi Injured for Barcas game against England?

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  23. Screaming Midget
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    How many of Spain's side tonight were from Barca?

    Barca without Messi are still very good, but nowhere near as good.

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      If this is some kind of attempted Sleight on Spain, I still think they are easily the best team in the world (without Messi 😉 )

      It was Xavi coming off that really showed who their hub is.

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      1. Forest4Life
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Barca better than Spain imo

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
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          Not hard. It's taking the Spain team and adding Messi to it.

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  24. Holy See
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    Munster 23 Northampton 21 Unbelievable really.

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    1. sotothemightygreek
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Phenomenal finish. Makes up for losing money on Spain. O'Gara is a legend.

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  25. Crouch Potato!
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    What a team Munster are!

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  26. halnone
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    England were shite and were lucky to win. But that's football.
    good win

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    1. Screaming Midget
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      They defended well.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        They attacked moderately well too - even scored a goal ...

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        1. RÏɠBY
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          14 years, 6 months ago

          did reina get the assist yet?

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    2. alsybach
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      what are you on???

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  27. Forest4Life
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Hope us Irish are drawn in a group with with Greece, Portugal and Italy, what would it be called Group A, Group B or will it be the Group of Debt?

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Now now, beggars can't be choosers 😉

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      1. Forest4Life
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        No English player has scored as many goals as Robbie Keane

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
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          Your point is?

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
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            England have a greater range of talent?

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            1. Forest4Life
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              14 years, 6 months ago

              We have better striker according 2 stats

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              1. Ginkapo FPL
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                However we can use english. Good day

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                1. Forest4Life
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                  We dont need english got them out ages ago 🙂

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                2. Holy See
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                  Proper noun, capitalise English 😉

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                  1. Forest4Life
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                    No we have Dublin as our Capital Dont need anything british thanks though

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              2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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                Ali Daei - best footballer in the world ever.

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                1. Forest4Life
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                  He scored against all terrible teams

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          2. Holy See
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            Robbie Keane is a better forward than any English forward ever. Stands to reason really.

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    2. RÏɠBY
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      playing without their shirts and team numbers written in bankers blood 😉

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        bit harsh, Greece and Italys debt have absolutely nothing to do with the banks. (Dont know about Portugal)

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        1. RÏɠBY
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          of course it does.. if the bankers hadn't bet against their own loans given out to people/countries that couldn't pay them back
          the over spending wouldn't have been revealed

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
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            Had to come out at some point that both countries are slightly retarded, although in Italys defence they are a bit unlucky to have such a good mafia

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          2. @ImpressiveTackl
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            ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

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          3. alsybach
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            you are on the wrong forum........

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        2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          all debt is to do with banks!

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
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            You confusing accountants with banks. Banks dont deal with debt, they pretend it doesnt exist

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            1. RÏɠBY
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              indeed
              30 to 1

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            2. Nice1Cyrille
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              Banks make their money through putting people into debt and the interest they charge on their loans.

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  28. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    Haven't made a trf since oct 28 th and Im having withdrawal symptoms

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      P.s. Although it's entirely possible this has nothing to do with banks 🙂

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  29. Super Drenthe
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    Nice to see a England win without Rooney,Terry,Gerrard and Ferdinand, good job from the CB's today and a great performance from Scotty Parker as allways. 🙂

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    1. Forest4Life
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Dont 4get A. Young

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    2. Holy See
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      Rio'll never play another competitive game for England. I reckon.

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  30. CRAZY TRAIN
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Off topic, but what a great win for our Rugby League boys. Comprehensively New Zealand to set up a final against the Aussies next Saturday. More of a Union man myself, but credit where credits due.....caps a great night for team England 🙂

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    1. Eoin
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      No.

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    2. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      yes

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