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Sunday Dugout Discussion

27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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    From Hayley Bellamy, via Twitter:

    "Craig has pulled out of today's game he's devastated at the news..."

    http://twitter.com/#!/h_bellamy1/status/140789537541603328

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    1. PFOR
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      Tell me a bit about this Marco Reus chap PB, is he the main reason for Gladbach's success and just how good is he?

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      1. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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        Yes, Reus is very good indeed. Fast, strong dribbler, very calm on the ball, two-footed but likes to cut inside. He can finish too - here's his hat-trick in the 5-0 victory against Werder Bremen last week.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL0WrEFePk8

        He broke his toe on Friday in the 3-0 victory over local rivals 1.FC Cologne, mind you, so no-one's sure if he'll play in Gladbach's next match and there have been fitness issues in the past. He's been watched by Arsenal, Man City, Juventus and Inter, but Bayern are the favourites to sign him for a fixed €17 million transfer.

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        1. PFOR
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          Thanks. Bayern snapping up the German talent as usual 🙂

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      who's she?

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      just saying before about how more shocking it seems after you posted that stuff about collymore yesterday

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        ps. you'll be missed today craig

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  2. CFCTom
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    Villa's corners are very low, you'd think they'd want to make the most of their height advantage with high crosses, Mcleish's tactics confuse me quite often.

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    1. Crouch Potato!
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      Surprised Warnock not on corners.

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  3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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    Best description I've heard of Heskey, "traps it further than most players kick it, and his 2nd touch is a tackle". Fair...

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  4. Cruicky
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    RIP Gary Speed.

    Why is McLeish still playing Heskey though?

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    1. Ich bin Klopp
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      Same reason he used to play Cameron Jerome...

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  5. div
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    ShawX & Ferguson out for

    A. Wilkinson & Allen
    B. Wilkinson & Dyer
    C. Brown & Johnson
    D. Other

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    1. CFCTom
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      Brown and Allen

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      1. div
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        Cannot afford Brown & Allen.

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        1. CFCTom
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          Vidic and Lampard then.

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    2. Manani
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      brown & someone.
      would not get wilkinson. cannot trust stoke's defence nowadays

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    3. McDog
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      Turner and Allen

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  6. Holy See
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    Agbon's pace is scary. Blink, he's gone!

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  7. kaz 96
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    a terrific person he was. sad to see him pass away especially at such a young age.

    as for bpl, swansea made a good start but its been all villa since the 15 min mark. so desperately need them to score as my cup opp has vorminator in his goal

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  8. Freshy
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    Cant remember a team with such massive possession that has so little hope of scoring

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    1. Crouch Potato!
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      Which team, seems even to me.

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  9. Tommytour
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    Are these crazy moves?

    Mata > Bale - Mata has tougher fixtures
    Aguero > Rooney - After Norwich game, Rooney then has amazing fixtures and will surely be involved, rotation proof over xmas period, main rival has just sold and will struggle to get him back in. Only downside is he may play centre mid with lack of options currently available!

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    1. A2U
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      I personally like your thinking, I'm keeping rooney myself, but there's a lot of luck involved with these strikers, and at the moment man city look a far better unit than man u, it's tough to call

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      1. Tommytour
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        Best captaincy option GW15 + 16 WOL qpr vs

        MCY - chel ARS
        Ars - EVE mcy
        Spurs - sto SUN
        Chel - new MCY

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    2. Royal5
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      I dumped Rooney yesterday. He is playing waaay to deep, gets no chances and was lucky to get the assist. Man utd have scored 1 goal every game in the last 6 (!) games.

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      1. Lloyd Xmas
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        That will change when Rooney goes up front next week.

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        1. Dago
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          hasnt he been playing up front for the last two games?

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          1. Royal5
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            He has. And he still plays behind Hernandez and is never in the box..

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            1. Tommytour
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              But surely against the likes of Wol Qpr Wig and Bla there will be no need to drop as deep? Cleverly get back soon please!

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            2. Dago
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              i know just confused by Teletubbys comment, who did you drop him for ROYAL5?

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              1. Royal5
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                I had 2 free transfers, so did Rooney->Adebayor & Bendtner->Ba

                I reckon those two will score more than Rooney and Bendtner.

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      2. Dago
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        Tommy Im dumping Rooney for Aguero this week. Then Aguero to Hernande if United hit some form over their favourable fixtures.

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        1. Tommytour
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          I do think Hernandez is the better option but he will we rested over xmas in a game like WIG whereas Rooney will start in all!

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      3. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        dumped Rooney + Sturridge----> Ade + Hernandez for a hit. Could pick between them so I thought I would take both.

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  10. Arselona
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    Dude in my mini league chasing top spot...

    Javis > Lampard
    Cole A > Rangel
    4pt hit...

    😆

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      its not a one GW game

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        still, i understand a certain glee here 🙂

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  11. CFCTom
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    Richard Dunne yellow.

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  12. Demí
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    3 Villa players in the book now. Dunne the latest

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    1. Mílanista
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      Can see Villa ending this with 10 men.

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      1. The Light Knight
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        surely with emile they start with 10 men *cue goal from ivanhoe

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        1. Mílanista
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          He best not score, I've got 9 CS points on the line.

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  13. The Light Knight
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    i want to be able to play 2-5-3 🙁
    RIP Gary Speed

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  14. CFCTom
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    I always thought Agbonlahor would do well at L'Pool.

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  15. Mílanista
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    Dyer almost creating a great chance for Naylor, could have been a nice points haul there.

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  16. kaz 96
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    another yellow...

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  17. CFCTom
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    Ashley Richards yellow card.

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  18. Sheep Flavour
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    RIP TO GARY "WELSH HERO" SPEED.

    THERES ONLY ONE GARY SPEED ONE GARY SPEED ONEEEE GGGARRRRY SSSPPPPEEED

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  19. Kostja
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    I hope Adbonglahor gets sold as on, such a wast on Villa.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      what has happened to villa? not many seasons ago they were challenging for Champions League

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      1. kaz 96
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        whats happened is the likes of spurs and man city have raised their standards. manc have basically robbed aston villa pushing them back intothe mid table section

        the departure of martin o neil has not helped them either

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          yeah. but still, we Spurs fans have certainly felt robbed on a couple of occasions as well - e.g. Carrick and Berbatov

          Somehow feel its down to lack of resolve from the owner.

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          1. kaz 96
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            redknapp's done a tremendous job at the lane.the money received from the sales has been invested brilliantly. as for villa, they suddenly just turned into a club in need of some serious money after that 08-09 season

            as an arsenal fan, i have some sympathy for the villans. we have been like the "warehouse" for manc too.

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          2. Gargamel
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            You got paid more money than either of those players were worth Gaz, cheer up 🙂

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      2. Kostja
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        Well Friedel, Young, Milner, Downing moving on and of course the coach whos name I cant remember who did brilliant work with them.

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        1. Cruicky
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          Barry as well.

          Martin O'Neil - the manager.

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      3. epj448
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        Sold best players, can't spend money like bigger clubs, loads of reasons. Top ten would be their goal this season

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      4. Cruicky
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        McLeish happened.

        Why they aren't playing Bannan, Albrighton etc - great, exciting young players but still playing the likes of Heskey...
        Should be solid defensively with Given, Collins, Dunne, Hutton, Warnock but a couple are growing old and do they have back up in those areas?

        I'd say they'd finish 8th, but now probably 10th.

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  20. Holy See
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    Richards yellow. Can't see him lasting the rest of the game without picking up another one.

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  21. Egg noodle
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    We all ready for No Silva then?

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    1. Kostja
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      Why should we be?

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      1. kaz 96
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        its been the story of this week. the week of subs as i would call it

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        1. Kostja
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          Yes but surely against Liverpool he wont be rested.

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          1. kaz 96
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            jon bovi's joking

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            1. Kostja
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              I know, I just own Vaart, Drenthe, Evans- cant afford any more jokes like this 😀

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          2. Tommytour
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            Rested against Newcastle, CL game was on Tuesday, CC in week I would say 99.9% chance of starting!

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    2. Lloyd Xmas
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      Why do you know something?

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      That would be nice. SuperVictor waiting on my bench with 5 😛

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  22. Kostja
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    Uuh handball by Williams, should have been a penalty??? NO?

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  23. CFCTom
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    Good case for a pen against Swansea. Williams' hand was up pretty high.

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  24. OPTA FPL
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    Ashley Richard is a brother of Micah Richard??

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    1. Alan The Llama
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      nope, it's a common surname

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    2. CFCTom
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      They dont have the same surname. 🙄 Ashley 'Richard'. Micah 'Richards'.

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  25. Team Hayemaker
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    Best cheap defender out there? Going to bin De Laet this week...

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    1. Elniñorules
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      How nailed on is he, anyways?

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    2. Cyril Figgis
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      Wilkinsons still a good shout. Nailed on starter, only 4.0m, and Stoke nearly went got a clean sheet against Blackburn, which doesn't sound great but Blackburn have a good record of scoreing away from home. I don't see any other 4.0 defenders with the same chance of clean sheets.

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    3. Lloyd Xmas
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      How cheap?

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      1. Team Hayemaker
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        4.0ish? Wilkinson, Monk, Turner seem the best bets

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        1. Barnsley FC
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          Gabbidon, McAuley are also good bets. There are enough decent 4.0 defenders out there to have atleast 3-4 of them in your team.

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  26. arcticjunkie1
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    18 points pre-bonus (if any) awful GW.

    RIP Gary Speed

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  27. Casper
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    Anyone else have Sinclair. only they don't have him getting points for playing at moment

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    1. Yossi
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      He's booked...

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      1. Casper
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        Cheers bud, missed that! Bloody kids!

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      i've had him for a long time

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    3. CFCTom
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      Played less than 60= 1
      Yellow card= -1
      Total= 0

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  28. OPTA FPL
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    i can see a 0-0 draw final and it's a bad GW too

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  29. reez80
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    look like bad injury to angel rangel...

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  30. Davido989
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    Liverpool Liverpool Liverpool !!!!
    Andy Carroll Will Score .....

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      from the bench?

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      1. Cruicky
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        He'll play now Bellamy has pulled out of the squad.

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