[sbu_large_image] Euro 2012
16 June 2012 1136 comments
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Twist. One day down in Matchday Three and, in armband terms, it’s been a bitter disappointment for Fantasy managers. We placed our faith in the likes of Alan Dzagoev, Robert Lewandowski and Jakub Blaszczykowski but the trio not only let us down, they now wave farewell to the tournament after this evening’s pair of unexpected results.

With the Czech Republic winning Group A and Greece finishing second, there’s plenty of tinkering required with our knockout wildcards now as we rid our teams of Russians and Poles. On to tomorrow, then, as we eye up the likely captaincy contenders:

With Germany needing only a draw against Denmark to confirm their position as Group B winners, many are unsure over a starting role for Mario Gomez. The Bayern man has already grabbed three goals and is expected to be heavily backed for the armband, though some may take a sneaky punt on Miroslav Klose in the hope that Joachim Low tinkers with his front line. Mesut Ozil will be hoping to get amongst the points after a slow start to the tournament, while owners of Thomas Muller and Lukas Podolski will be hoping the pair aren’t subject to rotation, with the likes of Andreas Schurrle and Marco Reus ready-made replacements.

For the Danes, Michael Krohn-Deli has been their most consistent Fantasy asset – he has picked up attacking returns in each of his first two games and currently sits on 13 points in the McDonald’s game. Nicklas Bendtner’s brace against Portugal brings the Arsenal man under consideration, while Christian Eriksen’s creative spark should be crucial to Denmark’s cause.

Cristiano Ronaldo missed chance after chance in the Denmark game but will relish the prospect of taking centre stage against Holland – the 11.0 priced forward still looks a strong prospect and is a guaranteed starter for the encounter with Bert Van Marwijk’s men. Nani and Helder Postiga have both outscored the Real Madrid maestro thus far and, up against a shaky Dutch backline, look decent differentials, with 3.8% and 0.3% ownership respectively.

While a win against Portugal may still not be enough to secure their progress, Holland’s final group game looks at the very least a face-saving exercise after a dismal start to their campaign. A shift in formation for the second half against Germany may hint at what’s to come – Robin Van Persie, Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben look the stand-out candidates here, while a starting role for Klaas-Jan Huntelaar could be on the cards if Van Marwijk chooses to operate with a front two this time round.

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  1. Pratik
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    You know, I took a 5 hour sleep and we are still on the same page. Crazy Deadzone!

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    1. Pratik
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      Blimey, this should have been on the last page. The omens certainly are not good for me today.

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      1. tw
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        your only player today is anderson and everyone else in our tie has him so you don't need good omens... hate to say it but wouldn't mind seeing him get a negative score (as long as ronaldo isn't involved!) so i can get us an advantage by playing given.

        just hope I have good omens today and gomez scores us a hattrick 😉

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    2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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      You sleeping again? 😛

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  2. Football is Life
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    Any1 know the time of players change value?

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    1. Willis.
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      Yeah.

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  3. tw
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    didn't get to see the games as I had a tournament. what happened to Russia? I though for sure they'd progress! and Poland too? thought they'd at least manage a draw

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      twilight zone esque

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      1. tw
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        huh?

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          surreal to have those two teams out (youtube twilight zone)

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          1. tw
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            okay, i gotcha

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    2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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      I wanted to see them(Russia) in the Finals against Spain. 🙁
      I will miss Shirokov & Dzagoev. 😥

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      1. tw
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        nahh i was hoping they'd go out in a great and tight game against holland.... then a spain germany final with Spain winning of course!

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  4. Gaz Downright
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    Good morning!

    First time I didn't catch the games live.

    Is this a parallel universe?

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    1. ManofKent
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      So it's your fault for not keeping an eye on things 😉

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        Terribly sorry. Both Russia and Poland were (seemed) infinitely more interesting than the two motley crews making it through to the quarters.

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        1. tw
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          greece to get wrecked by the germans and the czechs to get knocked out by the Portuguese or dutch?

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        2. ManofKent
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          I can just about cope with Czech over Poland, but the loss of Russia 🙁

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          1. tw
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            agreed! howd they lose anyways?

            and dang i did a bracket challenge thing and had russia 1, poland 2, greece 3, czech 4.... yikes! 🙁

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          2. Crouch Potato!
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            Poland were dreadful, and Russia are always the dark horses who find a fence to fall at!

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  5. Gaz Downright
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    will player values drop for eliminated players?

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    1. Billy Ketsu
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      Gaz

      Are you still about?

      Are we still in with a chance of making the next round? I'm hoping The Gaz Ketsus can Do A Greece and squeeze through, against all the odds. Especially after I fell asleep on the couch on Monday and missed the WC deadline.

      Gomez (c) for the win today! Hat trick por favore, mannschaft the Danish bacon Mario!

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        1. Billy Ketsu
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          Thanks TW - we're still in with a shout!

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          1. tw
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            no problem mate! France (ENR + Mark) is the only team already out of the comp. good luck to you guys! maybe you can sneak into the next round

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        Arvo Billy!

        We must beat the Dutch while Denmark beat Germany. The combined margin of victory of those two ties has to be 34 points or more.

        We and the Danish are currently winning by a combined margin of +21. Looking good.

        Falling asleep on coahces and in bath tubs is how we roll. Preferably drink in hand.

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        1. J0E
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          Germany in the driving seat at the mo thanks to a surprise maniatis cleanie...Long way to go tho.

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  6. Billy Ketsu
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    Stick with Triton or twist with Andersen? I think I might stick, methinks the Danes are going to get pasted.

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    1. tw
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      how many pts did he get? cuz ireland got beat 4-0 and i still got 3 nice pts from given

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      1. Billy Ketsu
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        He got 3.
        Hmmm, maybe it's better to twist in that case. No idea how Given got 3 points on the back of a 4-0 hammering. I guess he made about 27 saves, or something. Or were they sympathy points?

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        1. tw
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          2pts for playing the 90, -2 for 4 goals conceeded and then he had about 11 saves and its 1pt for every 3 saves. if they conceeded 1 less or if he had 1 more save he wouldda gotten me 4pts

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          1. Billy Ketsu
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            OK, cheers TW. So it's not a zero-sum game - Gomez can score us a hat trick and Hans Christian can still bag a load of saves.

            Thanks and goodbye Triton!

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            1. tw
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              yeah if say germany have 15 or so shots on target and gomez scores a hattrick then you'd still get 3-4 save points

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            2. J0E
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              We have gomez too... So his success could be a poisoned chalice for you.

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      Much higher chance of Andersen getting 1pt than 5pts, so it's safest to stick.

      Conclusion: twist

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  7. tw
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    so can someone explain to me how russia lost? like what happened?

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    1. Willis.
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      They didn't score.

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      1. tw
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        was it a chelsea style victory? did they have a stupid error on the goal? did they get dominated? what?

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        1. Willis.
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          Yes, the goal was a stupid one to concede.

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        2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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          Yuri Zhirkov's fault lead to goal.

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    2. Billy Ketsu
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      Weel, it seems that head-to-head results now take preference over goal difference. The Russkies should have gone through on goal difference but are out because they lost to the Greeks. I have no idea when the rules changed.

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        around 1996 I believe

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      2. tw
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        i thought it was always h2h. makes more sense. i was asking how they lost the game though. i had a game of my own so didn't get to see any of it

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    3. Evs
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      They lacked the right attitude, emphasis and desire to win.

      Greece didn't. Russia didn't wake up until it was too late....

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      1. tw
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        so you're saying they didn't really try?

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        1. Evs
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          I am saying I think they took it for granted and Greece seem to want it more until the Russians realised they were on the next bus home 🙂

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          1. tw
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            I gotcha. thats unfortunate... on the plus side this should hopefully serve as a lesson for the Germans and the Spanish

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            1. Evs
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              Indeed tw, indeed....

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          2. Nomar
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            I agree with Evs.

            Greece also actually looked the more likely to score a second goal in the 2nd half too rather than Russia looked like equalizing.

            I had Arshavin as captain but imo Greece thoroughly deserved the win last night.

            That said, I still think the first tie breaker should always be goal difference. Otherwise, what's the incentive for teams to go out and entertain by scoring goals? More UEFA bulls**t going on there.

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            1. tw
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              ok thanks for clarifying.

              no i think the first tiebreaker should be h2h. if two teams are tied surely their h2h result shows which team is the better of the two

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              1. Nomar
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                Why have goal difference then?

                Objective of the game is surely to score goals so the incentive should be on teams going out and playing attacking football rather than setting up shop and hoping to sneak a 1-0 win?

                Also, as Group B is showing, what if you have a 3 way tie? Team A is better than team B but couldn't beat team C whereas teams B could. Goal difference takes the cumulative of all those teams matches and determines the better side based on the margin of victory over common opponents.

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    4. blue cheese
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      62% possession. 25 shots. Just one of those days!

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      1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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        31 shots, 2 on target

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        1. tw
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          wow! so they just couldn't shoot!!??

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          1. Willis.
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            They could shoot. 31 shots...

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            1. tw
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              *they couldn't shoot well

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        2. blue cheese
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          Really? Thought the UEFA site said 25. Sad though 🙁

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          1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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            Soccernet say so.

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            1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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              *says

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  8. Gaz Downright
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    Does player values drop for eliminated players though?

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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      Yep.

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  9. China Mag
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    Aaaaarrrggghhhhh!!! Looks like Flynn didn't get the chance to do his WC!! Holland are facing an uphill battle to stay in the euros.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      Mr Ketsu over here also overslept his WC deadline, so it should be about even.

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      1. China Mag
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        Really? I just checked his team and it looks like a decent WC team to me! Well played to mr ketsu! Suprised Torres is in a non WC team!

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    2. Billy Ketsu
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      Looks like someone else fell asleep on the couch and missed it. I did the same thing on Monday night - had intended to put Gomez in as well. Meh.

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  10. Billy Ketsu
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    Right, so what do we think about tonight's games?

    Portugal 0 Netherlands 1
    Germans 4 Denmark 1

    If there are 22 players on the field at the end of Portugal vs Netherlands I'll eat my hat.

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    1. Willis.
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      Assuming that Germany beats Denmark, the winner of the Portugal-Netherlands will go through, am I right?

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      1. Djerbil
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        The above mentioned results will actually put Portugal through on Goals Scored

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        1. Manilaman
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          Gaols scored? Isn't it h2h?

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          1. tw
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            copied from the official rules

            7 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the
            following criteria are applied, in the order given; to determine the rankings:
            a) higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;
            b) superior goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (if more
            than two teams finish equal on points);
            c) higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (if
            more than two teams finish equal on points);
            d) superior goal difference in all the group matches;
            e) higher number of goals scored in all the group matches;
            f) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see Annex I,
            paragraph 1.2.2);
            g) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
            h) drawing of lots.
            8.08 If two teams which have the same number of points, the same number of goals
            scored and conceded play their last group match against each other and are still
            equal at the end of that match, the ranking of the two teams in question is
            determined by kicks from the penalty mark (Article 16), provided no other teams
            within the group have the same number of points on completion of all group
            matches. Should more than two teams have the same number of points, the criteria
            listed under paragraph 8.07 apply.

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          2. Evs
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            I think so, but in this instance...

            Holland would have beaten Portugal.

            Portugal beaten denmark.

            Denmark beaten holland and all will be on 3pts so then I think goes to goals to split them as h2h can't work in 3 way tie.

            Dont quote me though fella.

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            1. Gaz Downright
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              thats correct

              think of a three-way rock scissors paper stalemate

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            2. QPR expects... glory!
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              Got this off the BBC wesbite and its pretty simplistic

              Germany (v Denmark)
              Win - Secures qualification and top spot.
              Draw - Secures qualification and top spot.
              Lose - Through with a 3-2 defeat, or a higher-scoring one-goal loss. Otherwise, out if Portugal beat Netherlands, but through if the Portuguese do not claim three points.

              Portugal (v Netherlands)
              Win - Secures qualification unless Denmark beat Germany 3-2, or by a higher-scoring one-goal margin.
              Draw - Secures qualification if Denmark do not beat Germany.
              Lose - A one-goal defeat would still see them through if Germany beat Denmark, but any more and they are out.
              Denmark (v Germany)
              Win - Secures qualification.
              Draw - Will only be enough if Netherlands beat Portugal.
              Lose - Out.

              Netherlands (v Portugal)
              Draw special
              Win - Secures qualification if by more than one goal and Germany beat Denmark.
              Draw - Out.
              Lose - Out.

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              1. Evs
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                Basically holland need to score 2 goals or more, and Germany win to got thought.

                Thats nice and easy to remember. Thanks.

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                1. Evs
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                  And win obviously.

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      2. blue cheese
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        The Dutch have to win by a 2 goal margin, I think.

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  11. China Mag
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    This is the first time that I have played this style format. What is the best way to play in the knockout stages?

    1) Go big on teams you think will go far OR
    2) Spread your bets and get players from all the good teams?

    Would I be right in thinking the winner will probably gamble on 1), but doing this you could quite easily do very badly and have no players in the final!

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    1. China Mag
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      Is the quarter final WC already available? Should I start getting rid of my pesky russkies now?

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      1. China Mag
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        I take it that it is. Got 5 mill in the bank!!

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        1. China Mag
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          Do we jnow who will play in goal for the greeks in the quarters?

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          1. Djerbil
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            Greeks will play the Germans.. I am staying out of there

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            1. tw
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              +1. i'm thinkin cech is a possiblility though

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          2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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            Sifakis

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      2. QPR expects... glory!
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        Some of us did that last night as we couldn't wait any longer 😉

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    2. tw
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      you do get 8 transfers before the quarters and 4 transfers before the semis to fix up your team. and honestly i think it's gotta be a mix between the two strategies. heavier emphasis on teams you think will win, as they should score well too and you can keep them but have maybe one key player from each team

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
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        Actually its unlimited transfers before the QTR finals, 8 before the semi's, 4 before the final.

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        1. tw
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          yeah i'm pretty sure he knew the unlimited before the quarters. i just mentioned the others as thats 12 transfers total to fix up your squad and get rid of anyone who is knocked out

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    3. Evs
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      Mee too, but my tactic is shit or bust aka.... Your option 1.

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  12. Djerbil
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    I don't know why but I think I should have VDV in the team :: Have a feeling He is in for a bonaza tonight

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    1. QPR expects... glory!
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      I have the same feeling but left Cesc in. Even worse I took advice form on here on my free transfer bringing in Berezutski for Pereira instead of Clichy.

      Who would have thought I'd be celebrating my only cleanies of the tourney a few hours later from Maniatis & Limbersky?!

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  13. Wakka Wakka
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    any idea why no price rises last night....

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    1. Djerbil
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      think there won't be Price rises before Quarters as everyone is on a Wildcard

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
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        Bah, I was hoping by getting in early last night I'd steal an advantage 😉

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    2. NATSTER
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      I guess the NT have been cleared to zero. There might or might not have price change until the QF deadline.

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  14. China Mag
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    I've just picked a 1st draft quanrter final team. Its a bit easy if you ask me!

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  15. DonDamiano
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    whom to captain tonight its between ozil and schwinstiger, thinking there may be some rotation for Germany, with them only needing a draw...

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    1. Mok
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      Low said yesterday he won't rest players. So I guess it's Ozil.

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    2. tw
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      don't think so. especially after they've seen russia knocked out. if they lose they could get knocked out as well!

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  16. NATSTER
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    Anyone experience unstable connection with the web Uefa.com?

    Btw, no price change last night. It seems the NT have probably been cleared and the accumulation needed for price change started from zero again.. It's my pure guess.

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  17. Nomar
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    Morning all.

    Glad I didn't take a 3 point hit before deadline yesterday evening to get Dzagoev in now. I had no Poles in my team after gameday 1 anyway as wasn't convinced by them at all and thought they were all incredibly overpriced.

    Russia were clearly an illusion. Their defence did not come as advertised and the Czechs having a bad start to the tournament made them look a lot better than they really were.

    Gomez captain tonight for me. Think he'll start at least before inevitably being rested after about an hour. Hopefully enough time for him to do his damage.

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    1. Evs
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      Hey nomar.

      I had lewandoski as captain as my trade in ( fail ) but had an unexpected cleanie from mathias 🙂

      Armband now tossed to Sneijder.... The boys due a windfall. Tonight's the night 😉

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      1. Nomar
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        I think Portugal are going to turn us over actually. They look like they are going to want it more.

        See Greece game last night and your comments above.

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        1. Evs
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          Sorry, who are 'us' holland?

          Oh right.

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          1. Nomar
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            Yes, I'm a Holland fan.

            Not much faith in my team either.

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    2. QPR expects... glory!
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      Morning Nomar. I woke up this morning with a serious nose bleed. 836th overall !

      Also going for Gomez as Captain tonight. I expect another 10 pter before he leaves the field after an hour!

      Have you seen the latest QPR news? So much for acquiring young talent... The Fabio loan aside we're fast turning into Dad's frigging army!

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      1. Nomar
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        I think Hughes has made some solid free agent signings there.

        Green is a vast improvement on Kenny. Fabio should be pretty good going forward, looks like it will be between him and Traore at the moment for starting left back berth.

        Nelson is a decent CB and Johnson is certainly better off the bench than Bothroyd, Smith or Hulse. DJ and Helgs seem to be perenially injured (mind you AJ is too).

        I think, Green aside, these are the squad filler type signings you need to make in the Prem so I wouldn't worry too much. I think there are a couple of good young guns to come.

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        1. QPR expects... glory!
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          I'd agree that the squad is better with the new signings, but the first 11 right now hasn't changed and that needs to improve greatly for us to avoid battling relegation again...

          Then again, to paraphrase Arsene Wenger, the return of a healthy Faurlin 'is like a new signing!' 😉

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          1. Nomar
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            I think Nelson could end up starting at CB. Hughes may prefer him over Hill to be honest with you.

            The starting XI will be different already as Taiwo isn't returning so Fabio may well start at LB.

            Nothing much is going to happen until after Euro 2012 and until 1 July when the window officially opens. Its just entertaining looking at all the varied names we seem to be linked with.

            GK and CB were my 2 top spots for upgrading and if we've got Green then that's one spot sorted. I think Hughes may well get another young CB.

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            1. QPR expects... glory!
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              13 years, 8 months ago

              My top 2 were GK and LW.

              Not been linked to many LW's though... The combo of Faurlin returning from injury, Barton's 1/3rd of a season suspension, Derry's age and Diakite not yet having been signed seemingly makes a defensive central midfielder the priority.

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              1. Nomar
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 8 months ago

                Diakite's signed, just not official yet.

                Most fans I know actually want a new LW not RW. I'm not sure Barton will return to be honest with you, I think Hughes will offload him after his suspension ends.

                You still have Taarabt and Mackie neither of whom are particularly shabby. Latest rumour I'm hearing is Martin Harnick from Stuttgart. Not sure if any substance to it yet.

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                1. QPR expects... glory!
                  • 14 Years
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                  Never heard of Harnick but his goal scoring record is awesome! He's listed as either a forward or RW though

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          2. Crouch Potato!
            • 14 Years
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            A few important differences though, I' believe Qpr will begin the season a much fitter and organised outfit, much is also being improved behind the scenes, Hughes seems to have picked up habits from Fergie. Difficult to dismantle and rebuild the team in short time span, all ready has got rid of a lot of deadwood. I have a strong feeling this season a below midtable berth will be achieved on home form alone, which is as is that requires, as we continue to evolve.

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            1. QPR expects... glory!
              • 14 Years
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              Agree with you entirely Crouchie. Addition by subtraction in many cases...

              Home form I think will continue to be strong but it would be nice if we can learn Hughes' old habits of getting frequent draws away and nicking the odd win. We didn't turn up at many away games last season. Didn't Warnock have more wins away than Hughes did?

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              1. Crouch Potato!
                • 14 Years
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                As suppose our away form can only improve, really hopepe we get some fresh signings, Hughes has a decent eye for quality, a really pity to have lost Taiwo, liked him a lot.

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    3. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      PB said Gomez would start.

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
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        Only take line up. Device off Demi, no one else 😉

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
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          *advice.

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        2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
          • 13 Years
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          PB is one of the most reliable one.

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          1. Evs
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            • 16 Years
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            I donteven know who pb is?

            Do you mean Childish Gambino (cg) aka Demi?

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            1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 8 months ago

              Portsmout Bubblejet.

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              1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 8 months ago

                Portmouth*

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                1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 8 months ago

                  Another Fail.
                  Portsmouth Bubblejet

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              2. Evs
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                • 16 Years
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                Ahh, yes.

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    4. Lordjim
      • 15 Years
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      Perhaps that's just an Allusion!

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  18. QPR expects... glory!
    • 14 Years
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    Is there anyone who DOESN'T have 4 Germans in their first draft of their QTR finals team?

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Me

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      1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Just 2 now.
        Gomez & Hummels/Badstuber/Lahm

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    2. tw
      • 14 Years
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      i'm probably going with 3: gomez, ozil/schweinsteiger and a defender. then im thinking 3 spaniards: torres/silva, iniesta and a defender. and then 3 french if i can afford it: benzema, nasri and a defender. and the rest will depend on who i can squeeze in and who advances

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
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        Similar to me tw.

        Benz, nasri, debuchy
        Alba, Iniesta, Torres
        Neuer, Gomez..... Will look at a 3rd when I see who else does qualify. Could be ozil replacing Sneijder.

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        1. tw
          • 14 Years
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          i prefer arbeloa if you can find the .5 extra

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    3. Evs
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      • 16 Years
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      Me

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    4. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Me!!! I am at moment going with 4 Spaniards, 3 Germans, 3 French and 5 assorted players... Although that might change if there is major upset in the next 3 days...

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        who are your 4 spaniards?

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        1. Messiah Hazard
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
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          Casillas, Fabregas, Torres and Alba

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  19. Coldplay
    • 14 Years
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    Morning all.
    I was just wondering if I should bring in Andersen for Tyton who got 3. What do you think?

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    1. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
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      I was just going to post the same question, Andersen will surely conceed but could get a few save points. Or Denmark could get hammered and end up zero

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      1. Coldplay
        • 14 Years
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        Andersen will concede big I think. I don't see him getting more than 3 tbh. I think I will stick with Tyton, unless anyone persuades me to twist.

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        1. tw
          • 14 Years
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          they'd have to concede 4 and he'd have to ahve no save points for him getting 0pts. its a point for every 3 saves. even given got me 3pts last round and he conceded 4. if cesc hadn't scored and he'd saved one more shot he wouldda gotten me 5pts

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          1. Coldplay
            • 14 Years
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            These are two BIG ifs, but I get your point. The worse that could happen is him getting 1 point. Is it worth risking those 2 points?

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            1. FORCA INTER
              • 14 Years
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              yes it does

              did we expected greece win yesterday??no

              football is a crazy game and you never know what is gonna happen

              you should take a gamble and give anderson a chanse

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            2. tw
              • 14 Years
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              depends what you're playing for really. i could see him getting anywhere between 1 and 8 points

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            3. Coldplay
              • 14 Years
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              Cheers guys, I think I will twist. You have persuaded me 🙂

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    2. Mok
      • 14 Years
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      NO.

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
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      oh dude,it0s only 3pts ,you should gamble

      not much to loose

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      1. Coldplay
        • 14 Years
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        Yeah, now I think I should. Cheers

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  20. tw
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    gunna go play me some fifa then i'll either be back or i'll be off to bed. later lads!

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
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      Cya

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  21. 4vets
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    I am tempted to say "I'll never drink again", such is my pain.

    Christenings can be lethal!

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    1. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
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      i wake up every morning and say that and yet i end up drunked every night 😉

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    2. Evs
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      • 16 Years
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      Christening on a Saturday?

      Or you hungover, and you got a christening today aka... More booze 🙂

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
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        It was a Saturday christening. We planned to get in yesterday in time to watch the footy. We reutrned home after midnight, I think. Today I do nothing except lie on the sofa and groan a lot 😉

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
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          Ah, same as what I did yesterday.

          Especially after the Wales v Australia rugby international 😥

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Was with Irish yesterday so some sorrows were drowned along with the celebration.

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  22. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
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    do you guys like my new gravatar?

    i changed it 1st time in 9months

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I do.

      That bloke has kept my cash ml hopes alive single handled.

      Is he fit to pay v Spain?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        yes he is fit but he wont play as atacker

        he will be moved at right MF

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Jelavic single forward, and they will try to flood midfield to try and get ball off Spanish I guess?

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          1. FORCA INTER
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            seems like we will play 4-2-3-1

            Jelavic Single forward
            Perisic dropped out for Pranjic

            Rakitic moved in Def MF and Manzdukic to take his spot

            Modric moved close to goal

            Pletikosa
            Srna Schifo Corluka Strinic
            Rakitic Vukojevic
            Mandzukic Modric Pranjic
            Jelavic

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            1. Evs
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              • 16 Years
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              Mandzukic may well get something from this game, Spain are to the tallest team.

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              1. Evs
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                • 16 Years
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                *not the tallest.

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              2. FORCA INTER
                • 14 Years
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                yes cause Bilic said that he will be striker but he must work hard at Right side and and run in atack as much as possible

                i fancy high scoring match

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    2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
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      Better than the previous one but still could be better

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    3. Coldplay
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah, its good. Mandz has proved himself as a big asset for Croatia.

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  23. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Who to bet on for a GK till the final?

    Neuer or Casillas?

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Casillas

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
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        let's wait and see will Spain get out from group stages dude....

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        1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
          • 13 Years
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          Let’s wait and see if Croatia get out from group stages dude.. 😉

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          1. FORCA INTER
            • 14 Years
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            can say same for Spain

            they are not so much better than us

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            1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
              • 13 Years
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              😆

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              1. FORCA INTER
                • 14 Years
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                we will see who will laught tomorrow 😀

                having say that not tot tomorrow cause if we will be in quaters i will party and celebrating victory all night

                why you think that CRO team sucks anyways??

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                1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 8 months ago

                  I'd like to see Spain & Croatia in QF.

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        2. Messiah Hazard
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          I will be very surprised if Spain do not qualify for the Quarter Finals...

          My predictions:
          Germany and Portugal from Group B
          Spain and Italy from Group C
          England and Spain from Group D...

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          1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Spain From Group D also?

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            1. Messiah Hazard
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 8 months ago

              Oh sorry, meant to write France...

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          2. FORCA INTER
            • 14 Years
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            well ,your prediction will fail

            everyone predicted Poland+Russia yesterday and see what happen

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    2. Blando
      • 14 Years
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      I'm going Neuer, cheaper ways in Spanish defence and I don't wish to double up until I have to.

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    3. didopich
      • 14 Years
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      neuer of course easier route to the final mate plus germany are the better team with better defence.
      Spanish dont do defending always concede against the better teams

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  24. Ninjaa
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I've got a feeling gomez may be rested tonight for klose, you can't change a captain that doesn't play can you?

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Gomez will start

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    2. Denis Tueart on the wing
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Just look for the teams an hour before and change then, if Gomez does not play

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    3. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      You can if you have any players who haven't yet played...

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  25. North wind
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Any news on Barzagli??

    I kneejerk and transfered him in for Bonucci yesterday, now i'm in the dark not sure who will start. Rivals allready mocking me what a stupid transfer i made 🙂

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
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      It will be a stupid transfer if Barzagli doesn't start.

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  26. Denis Tueart on the wing
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Anybody started their wilcard yet, to get rid of the RED players, before they start to lose euro value ?

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
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      Yeah, but I still have Shirokov & Dzagoev.

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      1. Denis Tueart on the wing
        • 15 Years
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        Why?

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        1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
          • 13 Years
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          I was waiting for their price to rise.

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          1. Denis Tueart on the wing
            • 15 Years
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            If it hasn't risen overnight, it can hardly rise now - can it? They are not available to buy in the transfer market !!!!

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    2. Denis Tueart on the wing
      • 15 Years
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      Anybody started their wildcard yet - with the extra 5M available ???

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  27. Lordjim
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    You must start your wildcard now; you have nothing to lose. No more Ruski or Polska, now have Gomes, Torres, Schweinsteiger, Jiráček and Cabaye. Prices will start to rise. Gomes is up 0.2 in just 2 games.....

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    1. Lordjim
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      *Gomez...its the excitement...

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    2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
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      I won't have Cabaye, tbh.

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      1. Lordjim
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Noted. With the WC, I'm pencilling in French defence...lets see how much I have left after I get my 5m

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    3. Blando
      • 14 Years
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      You'd never catch Gomes having a 0.2 price rise 😉

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    4. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
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      we all wildcarded already

      i have likes of pirlo,Cabaye,gomez,torres,jarichek,tzorvas....in my team just in case that prize would rise

      i'll change my team for quaters ofc

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      1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Tzorvas? 😯

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          greece gk no1 ,dunno his name 😀

          nuer+greece gk in my wildcard team now

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          1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Sifakis.

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  28. Parm
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Mornin' all.

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Welcome To The Deadzone!

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    2. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
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      morning Parm

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        Nice Grav Forca

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          thanks 😉

          Mandzukic-top goals corer at euro FTW 😀

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          1. Parm
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Would love Bendtner top scorer myself!

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    3. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
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      Morning Theodor

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Mornin Vaclav.

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Just about to go down to the breakfast room in the Czech base, care to join me?

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          1. Parm
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
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            Not after that curry last night....

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            1. Heydudes13
              • 14 Years
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              Yeah was a blinding night!

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    4. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      You're 1 point ahead of me yet your rank is 514 compared to my 642. 😕

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        I'm actually 1 behind after I switched captain from Shava to Ozil

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        1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
          • 13 Years
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          I’m actually 1 behind after I switched captain from Dzagoev-->Gomez

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  29. Heydudes13
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    Hmm Yeah mm ok (me thinking)

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  30. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
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    Forca, who do you think Croatia's best player is?

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Modric by a long way.....

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
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        Yeah T'was what I thought, wondering if Forca had any favourites

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    2. Blando
      • 14 Years
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      Ask the Grav

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