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18 July 2012 1114 comments
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QPR open their pre-season schedule with a 5-0 thrashing of a local XI in Asia, with Djibril Cisse the main protagonist. Man City scrape a goalless draw in Germany and have yet to find the net over their first couple of matches, while West Ham’s less than impressive form continues, as the Hammers slip to defeat at Oxford United:

Sabah Select XI 0 QPR 5
Mark Hughes’ side began their pre-season tour of Asia in emphatic style yesterday afternoon. The QPR boss handed three of his summer signings their debut, with Ji-Sung Park, Andrew Johnson and Fabio all featuring in the 5-0 win. The London outfit fielded a different XI in each half and went in 1-0 ahead at the break, thanks to a Bobby Zamora goal, though Johnson was highly praised in the match reports for an industrious performance up front alongside his former Fulham team mate. The second half saw QPR run rampant, with Fabio – 4.5 in FPL and 4.3 in the Sky Sports game – offering plenty threat from the right-back area throughout and resultantly picking up an assist towards the end. Hughes will be more than happy to see his frontmen all in strong form; Jay Bothroyd and Heidar Helguson both found the net, though Djibril Cisse was the stand-out performer. The Frenchman produced two goals and an assist, in a continuation of the form that brought six goals in seven starts in the second half of last season; at 6.5 in FPL and 7.5 in the Sky Sports game respectively, he could well be one to watch as a mid-price option next term.

QPR (first half): Murphy, Harriman, Ferdinand, Hill, Ehmer, Wright-Phillips, Diakite, Park, Doughty, Zamora, Johnson.

QPR (second half): Cerny, Fabio, Onuoha, Connolly, Traore, Mackie, Taarabt, Ephraim, Bothroyd, Cisse, Helguson.

Dynamo Dresden 0 Man City 0
Two games down and the champions have yet to score in pre-season following a goalless draw in Germany yesterday evening. Despite missing their Euro 2012 contingent, City still fielded a strong team, with Argentine duo Sergio Aguero and Carlos Tevez named up front in a 4-4-2. The latter looked the livelier of the two and came close to making the difference a couple of times, while Aguero – in his first appearance of the summer – made way at the break. Roberto Mancini made several changes as the match progressed but City, despite the promptings of Yaya Toure, were simply unable to produce the breakthrough and had to settle for a drab stalemate in the end. According to the City website, Mancini fielded all fit and available senior players for the match – Edin Dzeko, Adam Johnson and Nigel De Jong all sat in the stands, suggesting the trio were carrying knocks. Vincent Kompany also limped off with what appeared to be a hamstring issue, though bearing in mind the City site failed to mention it, the problem is likely to be minimal.

City Starting XI: Pantilimon (Johansen 74mins), Zabaleta (Elabdellaoui 74), Kolo Toure (Boyata 86), Savic (Mancini 86), Kompany (Rekik 68) Biton (Evans 86), Yaya Toure (Razak 70), Lopes (Weiss 62), Kolarov (Helan 74), Tevez (Scapuzzi 74) and Aguero (Jelavic 46, Bunn 86)

Oxford United 1 West Ham 0
Sam Allardyce fielded a strong team for last night’s trip to Oxford but watched on as his side spurned several opportunities in the 1-0 defeat. The likes of Mark Noble, Kevin Nolan and Ravel Morrison started in midfield, while Carlton Cole and Ricardo Vaz Te led the line in a 4-4-2 for the visitors. The Hammers ensured Morrison saw plenty of the ball and the former United man sparkled without producing any end product, while Vaz Te was the most culpable and missed plenty of chances to find the net. Allardyce watched his side go behind on 38 minutes and, after making a couple of substitutions at half-time, then proceeded to hand many of his Development Squad youngsters a run out just after the hour mark but the alterations failed to make any difference. The Hammers are being pencilled in for investment by Fantasy managers due to their strong opening schedule but their form so far has been anything but impressive; they have now tasted victory in just one of their four friendlies thus far.

West Ham Starting XI: Henderson, Demel (Nasha 61), Spence, Reid (Wearen 61), McCartney (Taylor 46), Noble (Moncur 61), Nolan (Ruddock 61), O’Neil (Porritt 61), Morrison (Turgott 61), Cole (Maynard 46), Vaz Te (Hall 61)

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  1. Round and Round
    14 years, 3 months ago

    U cant get vidic, u already have 3 united players. Use the .5 to get taarabt/nzog/pienaar for dembele

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    1. Round and Round
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Woohoo! Another one bites the dust.

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    2. Mak_Gold
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Oops LOL, can't believe I missed that. Yeah, you're right. Better to upgrade Dembele.

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  2. Squerly4568
    14 years, 3 months ago

    how many of you are gonna start with gerrard and lamps this seasno they are both well cheap!

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    1. QPR Lad 92
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I wanted Lampard but I'm not sure how much game time he will get.

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      1. Squerly4568
        14 years, 3 months ago

        he played quite a bit towards the end of the season didnt he?

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      14 years, 3 months ago

      considering lampard 'as a differential' but looks like he'll play deep....

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      1. Riddler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Agreed...the more 'dynamic' players i.e. Hazard/Mata/Marin(/Malouda/Ramires/Meriles) will push on with Lamps sitting deep

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    3. Saksoy
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Am going for gerrard for liverpool coverage

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  3. LÖrKingMuch
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Oh, the addiction to tinkering, can't believe I have a draft team before FPL has gone live. Here it is - ready to be torn up by the time the season starts 😉

    Krul - Federici (10)
    Vidic - Ivanovic - Tomkins - Rangel - Alcaraz (27.5)
    Kagawa - Hazard/Mata - McCleary - Noble - Pienaar (34)
    Aguero - Rooney - Pog (28.5)

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Why get Vidic and Krul when you can get De Gea & Clichy for .5 less?

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      1. Christina.
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Gametime

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      2. Jebiga
        14 years, 3 months ago

        vidic can score easy

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      3. Saksoy
        14 years, 3 months ago

        No one knows how vidic is going to be after that long term injury

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    2. Setting the Toney
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Stay away from Krul - Newcastle have hard fixtures, maybe go Friedel instead.

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    3. LÖrKingMuch
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks for the feedback!

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  4. Valar(Keith)
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Feel like they're caterin to the masses.. 10 mill for the highest mid.. 6.5 for A.Cole.. just 12 and 11.5 for RVP, Rooney.. I'm still gonna screw up though

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      14 years, 3 months ago

      oops.. forget the rvp and rooney part

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    2. DLL18
      14 years, 3 months ago

      13 and 12 for RVP and Rooney.

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  5. Squerly4568
    14 years, 3 months ago

    well up for dempsey in a LFC shirt!

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  6. Balotellitubbies
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Just checking, it's not possible to log into the new fpl yet, right?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Have you tried?

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  7. Valar(Keith)
    14 years, 3 months ago

    And 9 for Lampard is very temptin.. he always does well and will still have penos.. though he'll be playin deep this year

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 3 months ago

      No necessarily. It could be either:

      Lampard - Mikel
      Ramires Hazard Mata

      Or

      Ramires - Mikel
      Hazard Lampard Mata

      If RDM goes for the second option then Lampard would be a great pick.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        14 years, 3 months ago

        When you have Oscar-Hazard-Mata- maybe Moses, and still being linked to others I think Fatty will be going personally!!

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 3 months ago

          This is for the first few GWs. I imagine Oscar will be given time to settle.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 3 months ago

      VERY deep....or not at all

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Lampard doesn't know how to play deep. He will always get forward

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        14 years, 3 months ago

        .....for the LA Galaxy

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  8. Bøwstring The Carp
    14 years, 3 months ago

    3 things I'll be looking forward to in the new season:

    - First Chelsea V Tottenham game (AVB v RDM)
    - United V Everton (kinda lost the league for them last year)
    - Liverpool V the promoted teams 😉

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  9. HuttonDressedasLahm
    14 years, 3 months ago

    So its looking tricky which attacking mids/strikers to get from the big teams again this season....

    ManU
    Young-Valencia-Nani-Kagawa
    City
    Aguero-Tevez-Balotelli-(RVP?)-Dzeko
    Liverpool
    Suarez-Carroll-Downing-Borini-Dempsey
    Chelsea!!
    Hazard-Mata-Ramires-Marin-Fatty-Oscar-(Moses!)

    Throw in AVB'c change to Spurs and we are going to see a lot of randomness early on imo

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    1. Riddler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Dzeko will leave I think. Nani more likely to come off the bench, especially if Kagawa impresses early on. Downing doesn't belong on that list. Lamps likely to sit deep if he plays.

      That help?! 😉

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    2. Saksoy
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Downing on that list lol. Aint that the guy who finished 30+ games with no assists or goals

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  10. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Thinking on Forwards combo

    1. Aug, Torres, Adebyor
    2. Tev, Torr, Adebyor
    3. Aug, Roon, Torr
    4. Aug, Tevez, Torr

    Rest of Team is
    Vorm, Federicci
    Clichy, Ivanovic, Cuellar, Hangelad, A. Fdnanad
    Yaya, Larson, Noble, Maloney, Pienar

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Ideally, from GW2, for the next 3 or so GWs, you'll want Rooney & Adebayor so you need to start with one of them.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Rooney Torres Tevez

      wk2 Torres to Adebayor. Done. 🙂

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Oh, and please dont get A.Ferdinand!!

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      2. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I am leaning towards these 3 aswell.

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    3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      14 years, 3 months ago

      3.

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  11. TJ
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Did fabregas play in the rooney playing in the fabregas role at the euros?

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    1. Christina.
      14 years, 3 months ago

      LOL

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Huh!!!

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    3. Licky
      14 years, 3 months ago

      No he played in the Messi playing in the Fabregas in the Rooney role.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        14 years, 3 months ago

        ^This 🙂

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    4. OPTA FPL
      14 years, 3 months ago

      ????

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  12. Snevitz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Here we go, another RMT............

    De Gea, Ruddy
    Cole, Clichy, Kaboul (Figuero, Tomkins)
    Bale, Lampard, Toure, Ben Arfa, Noble
    Torres, Jelovic, (Progrebnyak)

    No attacking Man U cover but you can't have everything!

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Lampard to Kagawa simplessss

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    2. Turbodog
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Front line a little too weak for me. Would want an Aguero or a Roonpig in there instead of Jelly/Pog.

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  13. FORCA INTER
    14 years, 3 months ago

    what do you think about this draft?

    DDG / Begovic

    Kaboul / Rafael / A.Cole / Fabio / Clark

    Bale / Taarabt / Lampard / Noble / N'Zogbia

    Pog / Torres / Aguero

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    1. Christina.
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Pog-->Jelly

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    2. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 3 months ago

      rafael and lamps face stiff competition for places, otherwise fine.

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    3. Turbodog
      14 years, 3 months ago

      any money left to upgrade Torres to Rooney after week1?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        14 years, 3 months ago

        0.5M

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        1. Christina.
          14 years, 3 months ago

          😯

          That won't do then. Pick one of Lamps or Torres. Simples.

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          1. FORCA INTER
            14 years, 3 months ago

            then Adebayour in for Torres and downgrade bale and upgrade pog 🙂

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            1. Christina.
              14 years, 3 months ago

              No Rooney gw 2-->?

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              1. FORCA INTER
                14 years, 3 months ago

                aguero-rooney

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                1. Christina.
                  14 years, 3 months ago

                  😀

                  Just pulling your leg. No seriously I would want both Rooney/Aguero for gw 3. Tevez is tempting hey?

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  14. aflickering
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 3 months ago

    i'm not picking DDG or mata for the entire rest of this season because i think they'll need at least 38 games rest after the olympics.

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      14 years, 3 months ago

      🙂

      In seriousness though, I can understand people being wary of Mata, but I'm still very confident that DDG will make GW1. How much rest do GKs need?

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  15. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 3 months ago

    BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport

    Fulham: "We have not received any bids for Clint Dempsey. We would also discourage any bids." Dempsey has 1 yr left on #ffc contract #lfc

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Hmmmmmm!

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    2. OPTA FPL
      14 years, 3 months ago

      good news

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  16. SG8
    14 years, 3 months ago

    anyone guess what price boroni will come in at?

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    1. DLL18
      14 years, 3 months ago

      8.5m

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    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      14 years, 3 months ago

      8 or 8.5

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    3. Licky
      14 years, 3 months ago

      7 to 8 i's imagine.

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  17. Turbodog
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Just had a look at FPL's new cookie policy and this caught my eye:

    "3) Mobile device cookie

    If we detect that you are browsing the site using a mobile device, this cookie (named "TBC") is used so that we can present you with the best version of the site for use on mobile devices."

    Perhaps browsing the site from an iPhone or equivalent will prove less painful this year?

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    1. Squerly4568
      14 years, 3 months ago

      that would be quality

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    2. Pratik
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Are you sure they won't just redirect you to m.fantasy.premierleague.com ?

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    3. Shanty Toon
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Surprised they haven't released an app.

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  18. The Finnisher
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on Danny Guthrie?
    4.5M, at Reading now so should be nailed on, last full season at Newcastle (3 years ago, in the Championship mind you) he managed 4 goals, 12 assists.

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      14 years, 3 months ago

      He's in my team

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    2. Turbodog
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Good player. On my WL!

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    3. CABAYE4
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Good signing for Reading. Would have thought he'll play reasonably deep though, can't see a lot of fantasy returns tbh.

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      1. The Finnisher
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Maloney/Noble probably worth the extra 0.5 given they have penalties/FK's

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    4. Specialist
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Not necessarily a guaranteed starter, but pre-season should shape that. Otherwise could be a real bargain at 4.5, potentially having set-piece duties too.

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  19. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    14 years, 3 months ago

    My first attempt:

    de Gea,Begovic
    Fonte,Ivanovic,Clichy,Cuellar,Turner
    Kagawa,De Guzman,Maloney,Noble,Lampard
    Bent,Torres,Aguero

    Thoughts?

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    1. Christina.
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Geen Rooney gw2?

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Aguero/Torres-> Rooney if I have to...

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        1. Christina.
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Dink jy lamps gaan ok doen in gw 1? Torres het my big time gedrop laas jaar.Makes me nervous getting him again.

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          1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
            14 years, 3 months ago

            yeah, but he's starting to come back... did well for spain... need 3 chelsea to start anyway... maybe 2 mids...

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    2. Christina.
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Welkom!

      So wat dink jy is FPL se storie vandag met die nuwe "announcement"?

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        14 years, 3 months ago

        ek dink nie daaroor nie...

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    3. kimjobil
      14 years, 3 months ago

      why two sunderland defenders??and that midfield is too weak esp if you will play 343.

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  20. Mr Sarcastic
    14 years, 3 months ago

    This could be it...

    De Gea / 4,5
    Cole / Clichy / Kaboul / Cuellar / Tomkins
    Hazard / Bale / Kuzman (or Michu) / Noble / Maloney
    Rooney (Torres gw1) / Aguero / Graham

    ...but it's 2 million over budget. Where would you start the downgrading....?

    Some toughts of my own
    - hazard => ramires
    - tomkins, hazard, graham => 4.0 defender, lampard, pogrebniak

    Any chance for caulker, gallas or dawson to start?

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      14 years, 3 months ago

      get rid of kaboul for a cheapie

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    2. Efan Ekoku Pops
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Kaboul > Hangeland?

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  21. Christina.
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Is he not very injury prone? Britton(swans) at 4.5m a better bet?

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    1. Christina.
      14 years, 3 months ago

      reply fail to JOA

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      1. The Finnisher
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Britton just seems a 2-3 point specialist though, don't think he managed any attacking stats last season.
        Guthrie could be a decent filler when needed, hmm.

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    2. stilicho
      • Has Moderation Rights
      14 years, 3 months ago

      He looks the best bet of the 4.5ers to me, but that's not saying much 🙂

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      1. The Finnisher
        14 years, 3 months ago

        True, dunno if I will bother.

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          14 years, 3 months ago

          In Sky, he is a good pick due to Baps for pass completion, but not in FPL

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  22. HuttonDressedasLahm
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Seem to be getting settled.....for now!!

    DDG-Federici
    Cuellar-Ivanovic-Clichy-Hangelland-Fonte
    McClean-Yaya-Pienaar-Noble-NZogbia
    Rooney-Tevez-Torres

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Hmm, lacking Swansea, now I look again!

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Your midfields a bit lacking. Downgrade a striker to Graham - solves your Swansea issue and gives funds for at least one big hitter in midfield.

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  23. Jimrod™
    14 years, 3 months ago

    If there's one thing I've learned in years of Fantasy Football it's ignore everything about pre-season as it always bites you in the arse.

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  24. BONZ
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Well what an hour for an LFC fan - great news with the addition of much discussed Clint Dempsey.

    Oh - NO he's Not chirps up Fulham who are oblivious.

    FSG pulls the pants down for the Cane - how can they get it so wrong!!!

    PS has Borini defo signed?

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  25. Derailed Bandwagon
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Which strike force is better??

    A) Rooney, Aguero, D.Cisse

    B) Aguero, Adebayor, Bent

    Thanks!

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    1. Setting the Toney
      14 years, 3 months ago

      B

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    2. THE Wild Rover
      14 years, 3 months ago

      A) Easily imo

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  26. Setting the Toney
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Brunt, Dembele or Holman?

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  27. Fratboy
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Very pleased to see De Gea in everyone's teams, he really is a bargain. Definitely in my team, I may include Vidic as well.

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    1. Round and Round
      14 years, 3 months ago

      But is he? Hart was only 6.0 last season, I remember thinking 6 was too much for a keeper, so if anything this season its even higher relative to other prices

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      1. Fratboy
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, yes he is.

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        1. aflickering
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 3 months ago

          all the highest scoring keepers last season were from clubs outside the top 6. even 5.0 is pushing it for a keeper this season IMO

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          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            14 years, 3 months ago

            That's simply not true.

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      2. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Hart was 7m last season. There isn't much difference with keeper prices this season so worth getting De Gea. No 4m options and the likes of Vorm/Krul are only .5 less than De Gea.

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  28. Efan Ekoku Pops
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Has anybody mentioned Green as a sub keeper? Am I missing something?

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    1. Round and Round
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Doesnt rotate well with many other keepers, except Cech as far as I know

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      1. Efan Ekoku Pops
        14 years, 3 months ago

        He rotates okay with De Gea when United have a couple of tricky fixtures GW6 and GW10. Reading/Stoke look better, though.

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    2. Fratboy
      14 years, 3 months ago

      They'll concede and/or probably get relegated?

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    3. Setting the Toney
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Theres better options ie. begovic

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  29. In Tommy We Trust
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Does no one else feel like there be a lot of rotation at Chelsea to start the season with the congested fixture list and the options available to RDM?

    International 15th, Wigan 19th, Reading 22nd, Newcastle 25th, super cup 31st

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    1. Fratboy
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Still not sure on which players to go for as far as they're concerned. It's almost pointless making a team until everyone's pre-season is over so we can at least have some indication of starting XI's.

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  30. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Do we think Rooney is essential from GW2? Having a cheaper striker would help with the midfield.

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    1. Fratboy
      14 years, 3 months ago

      don't think I'll have him, too expensive imo.

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    2. Hate that rotation
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Don't think so.

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    3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I think he is. With Kagawa, Wayne's actually going to be a striker again. On set pieces, second best team in the league. He's in my team from GW1

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Compelling argument from someone with very impressive ranks. Not to mention the captain rotation with Aguero. Think I'll save 2m to ditch Torres after DGW.

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