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12 August 2012 2794 comments
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. thetinkerman
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    A Cole over Ivanovic?

    Thinking that although Cole has less attacking threat, his place isn't under threat from new signings. If Chelsea sign a RB, that's a wasted transfer/nervy Saturday morning.

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    1. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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      Yeh I have Cole for that reason as well

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      1. thetinkerman
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        Would love to have a nailed on Ivanovic though.

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  2. Hooper is a Bull.
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    Allo lads, who's looked good?

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    1. super zlatan
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      Vincent. Cool as ever

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    2. Bendy Busdriver
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      kolarov

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    3. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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      Not Torres or Hazard

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    4. Sarnab
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      Pantilimon 😉

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    5. LMNO
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      DeJong

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  3. The Stock
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    Aguero gave the ball away. I'm transferring him out.

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    1. super zlatan
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      For tevez? 🙂

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      Tevez properly put on his warm-up bib before the game.

      (C)

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    3. Declan-
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      wise move 😉

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  4. rohan
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    The question is what did Hazard do.. Cant see it on tele

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    1. super zlatan
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      He attempted a ridiculous back heel pass and fell on his arse.

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    2. The Bandit
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      Tried a back heel and fell over his own feet... cringeworthy 😀

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    3. DLL18
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      Tripped over the ball.

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    4. blue cheese
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      Trued to do something fancy. Stepped on the ball, fell on his arse.

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    5. Declan-
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      just fell over

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      1. FC Tinker
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        Important to note that he did it when there was no one really around him...

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        1. Declan-
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          very true

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    6. Bendy Busdriver
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      tried backheel and fell on his face

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    7. rohan
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      Lol cheers

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  5. The Bandit
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    Anyway... about how Torres can't fail due to the incredible service he will be getting... 😀

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    1. Mílanista
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      They won't be playing Man City next week.

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      1. Somalion
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        And hopefully will be playing more of their new midfield.

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      2. Midtable
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        Agreed

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    2. ignoblefish
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      ok

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  6. Ginkapo FPL
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    Savic isnt THAT bad, although supposedly Wolves want him on loan anyway

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  7. baulchy
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    ITV live steam link pleasssse???

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    1. mufc802
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      itv.com

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  8. MajesticWok
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    A) Y. Toure/Ramires
    B) Mata/Dyer

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    1. Declan-
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      A

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        B

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        1. Declan-
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          C

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  9. Optimus.
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    jeze pantilimon/savic not getting tested by this chelsea side

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  10. Baby Face Nelson
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    Hazard has been shocking so far

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    1. Cymro
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      Been pretty crappy in pre-season as well I believe

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    2. LMNO
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      a waste of FF money right now

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    3. Sess!
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      The casuals will still keep him. I haven't had him in my team once and don't plan to any time soon.

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  11. denial
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    Fairly embarrassing stuff from Chelsea so far - how much have they spunked on midfield flair players?

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    1. Midtable
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      Cech hasnt had to make a save yet

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      1. SupaTune
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        tevez free-kick forced him into one in the first 3 mins..

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  12. Bielsa's Bucket
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    Why De Long Dong hasn't been in the City first team I don't know why. He is a wasted talent, and seems to be one of the best players on the pitch right now.

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  13. Trigg ⭐️
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    Serious question, and pardon my ignorance, but I really know nothing about Kacaniklic and Petric.

    How have they looked in pre-season? Definite starters?

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    1. MajesticWok
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      Petric is your best 6.0m striker, looked good. Unless you fancy Graham

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
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      They have played almost every preseason and looked good. But it is worth noting the lack of Rodaellga and Dempsey in preseason games.

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      1. Trigg ⭐️
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        Thanks, I really wasn't sure if they were likely to make any impact, or were just educated VFM punts!

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    3. thetinkerman
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      Petric has looked awesome in pre-season. Whether that's actually an indication of whether he'll do good is another thing.

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      1. Trigg ⭐️
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        Cheers.

        If experience is anything to go by, on fire in pre-season means avoid at all costs when the league kicks off. I might just get myself ready to board the bandwagon in GW3/4.

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  14. blue cheese
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    Ramires is getting well forward, isn't he?

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  15. stufail
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    14 points so far.

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  16. FPL_J05H
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    RMT

    DeGea, Federici

    McCartney, Clyne, Hangelaand, Clichy, Harte

    Bale, Michu, Noble, Yaya, Ramires

    Petric, Aguero, Torres

    £2M in the bank for Torres to Rooney GW2

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    1. super zlatan
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      Pointless posting this now whilst a game is in progress. Call back in a few hours.

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        1. super zlatan
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          🙂

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  17. Strawberry Jelavic
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    Ok things are still as clear as mud watching this match, no real help especially from a City POV!!

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  18. @ImpressiveTackl
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    If this is post-Drogba Chelsea... Uh oh.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      Arsenal v ManU for the title

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      1. @ImpressiveTackl
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        😆 I wouldn't go that far. City still look a real force even in this 'friendly'.

        Just think Chelsea look inept.

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    2. Optimus.
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      i loved all the 5-1 4-1 predictions to chelsea on last post 😉

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    3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      LOVE your grav!!!!!

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      1. @ImpressiveTackl
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        Ta.

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  19. blue cheese
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    Mikel 🙄

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    1. VougieDipond
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      amazing isn't he

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  20. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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    Why does it annoy me so much when comentators say twenty twelve instead of two thousand and 12. Call me old school ( see what i did there Evs) but i dont know why this yanky expression has caught on. Its only ever people on tv that seem to say it and twa!s

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    1. thetinkerman
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      Don't know how this could possible annoy anyone and I don't know why I'm even bothering answering, but do you say 19 thousand and 99 for 1999? How about 19 thousand and 12 for 1912?

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      1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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        Ha, were you born in twenty?

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        1. thetinkerman
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          Perhaps you're right and most people are actually twa!ts

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      2. Demel
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        The accounant in me needs to point out that 1992 is in fact one-thousand, nine-hundred and ninety-nine. But the point you make is correct.

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        1. thetinkerman
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          Ha ha yeah realised that after posting

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      3. thetinkerman
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        Sorry, 1 thousand 900 and 12 😉

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    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      Does it annoy you when people called 1989 nineteen eight nine? Or do you call it one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine? Same thing

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    3. potatoace
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      but thats correct,
      did you used to say nineteen thousand and ninety nine ?

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    4. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      this

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    5. Nighthawk
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      You're an idiot.

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      1. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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        Do you say one hundred and six for the year 106?

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  21. Fernando Torres
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    Torres gets no service.

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      You would say that though wouldn't you?

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    2. Midtable
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      Something called a defence keeps getting in the way

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    3. thetinkerman
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      Does Torres really suit playing up front on his own though?

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      1. LMNO
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        I dont think so

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
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        I'm not sure he suits anything anymore really. Still probably have him for GW1 though.

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      3. Cymro
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        That's where he played for Liverpool when he was on form. Chelsea don't have Stevie with him though...

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      4. Fernando Torres
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        He did for liverpool didn't he?

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  22. baulchy
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    *comment moderated - no streams please*

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    1. blue cheese
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      *comment moderated -no streams please*

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        Tut tut 😉

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    2. Mílanista
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      How many times have you posted this? The game is on ITV, go to their website, the link to the game is on the main page.

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      1. Strawberry Jelavic
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        What channel is the game on??? 🙂 🙂

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    3. King Eric, in America
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      FFS, have you no internet search engines?

      Jam the spam.

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  23. Somalion
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    Finding it very funny reading the "Chelsea are doomed" comments after 30 minutes of football against Man City. Never mind the other signings they have who aren't on such as Oscar and Marin, they're definitely doomed 🙄

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      Drogba > Hazard+Oscar+Marin

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      1. Somalion
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        Definitely...

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      2. Manani
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        drogba tripped over air just as much as hazard, if not more 😀

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    2. Mulder
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      It's fine. They will probably convince themselves to go into the DGWK without any Chelsea players.

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      1. Somalion
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        Very true!

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Not doomed but they are playing shite. As a proud previous owner of Zigic I am more than happy to invest in teams I think are mediocre when there is a DGW on.

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  24. afcblegend
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    Haha Mikel skies it from 40yds.

    'Mikel has gone 218 games without scoring' 😀

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    1. blue cheese
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      *puts in Mikel

      He's "due"!

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      Mikel scores, we riot.

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  25. Strawberry Jelavic
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    Easy to scoff @ Chelsea in these opening few mins, but bear in mind now that they ARE playing City!!! There'll be about 10 other teams in the league that they may do serious damage to once they gel....that said I think I'm gonna go for Lamps and Ramires for the DGW haha

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    1. n-doggg
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      Risk of at least one not starting though?

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      1. Strawberry Jelavic
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        Possibly. Mata/Hazard are the dangers, very similar players. Lamps and Ramires nailed on, only ? there is Lamps midweek....

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      🙄 Playing against the much-vaunted City defense ...

      Oh, waitaminnit ...

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      1. Mílanista
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        The, ahem, defensive talents of Kolarov make up for Savic and Panti.

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  26. super zlatan
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    Out of the Chelsea midfield I think I am swaying towards mata.
    Doubts over hazard for me..

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    1. Strawberry Jelavic
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      +1

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  27. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
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    Feel like im going to have to fork out for Kompany GW1 and see which of the cheaper man city defenders are the most nailed on after a few weeks

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  28. Manani
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    to be fair, hazard did a ronaldo chop before tripping over, that chop was quite good.
    the back-heel was just arrogant

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    1. Davido989
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      He tries to overdo everything.

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      1. Manani
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        because he is overpaid 😆

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  29. Billy Ketsu
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    Mata's playing 😯 Did he start the game or did they sneak him on when I was in the toilet just now?

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    1. blue cheese
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      Started.

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  30. LMNO
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    The game needs a goal!

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