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Sunday Dugout Discussion – Gameweek 9

28 October 2012 3670 comments
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It’s a blockbuster Sunday in the Premier League, as two city rivals and two championship rivals face each other in back-to-back games. The Dugout Discussion opens for our first game, the small matter of the Merseyside Derby…

Everton XI: Howard, Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Naismith, Osman, Neville, Mirallas, Fellaini, Jelavic.

Liverpool XI: Jones, Wisdom, Skrtel, Agger, Jose Enrique, Fernandez Saez, Sahin, Gerrard, Allen, Sterling, Suarez.

David Moyes gets a huge boost in the form of Marouane Fellaini, who has passed fit and starts up front for the Toffee’s. As for Liverpool, they welcome back Pepe Reina but opt to leave him on the bench, meaning Brad Jones keeps his spot. Elsewhere, Jose Enrique gets a rare start courtesy of a Glen Johnson injury picked up midweek.

Before proceedings at Goodison Park conclude, Newcastle United host West Brom, and Southampton welcome the visit of Tottenham Hotspur (both games kick-off at 3p.m). Arguably the biggest game of the day kicks off at 4p.m however, as Manchester United travel to table-toppers Chelsea.

Follow all the action as it unfolds in our Dugout Discussion chatroom, which is open and can be accessed right here.

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  1. Hughes Your Daddy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Hate Manure, but Chelsea even more so - going to lol at their tears on bbc 606 now 🙂

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  2. Jebiga
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Ba out ?
    Is he injured ?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      pardew said possible nerve damage

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      1. Rafabio
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Crap

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  3. Jimbo123
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    So Jevans admits there was contact....

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Dive Yes, Free-Kick Yes.

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      1. Krionos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Agreed. could have gone both ways.

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  4. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Right... far too busy. See you all later!

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      See ya old man 😉

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  5. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    saylor +Kac>Rfael +Sterling for a 4 pt hit

    YAY or Nay???

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    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Say.

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      1. gdog2244
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        🙂 yes or no?

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  6. DVassell
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Which of these will get baps?

    a)Begovic
    b)Baines
    c)Mata
    d)Bale
    e)Michu
    f)RVP
    g)Tevez
    h)Berba

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    1. The Finnisher
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      Maybe sneak 1
      -
      0
      1/2
      3
      0
      2/3
      3
      0/1

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      1. gdog2244
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        0 for Bale??? fool

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Take away that -

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Even without the - you are still the fool here.

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            1. gdog2244
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 4 months ago

              so baps or no baps ?

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              1. The Finnisher
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 4 months ago

                Bale? 3.

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                1. gdog2244
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 4 months ago

                  thank you... u are no longer a fool

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    2. Owd Big 'Ed
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      No
      Maybe
      Yes
      Yes
      Maybe
      Yes
      Yes
      Yes

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  7. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Mata still managed 5 chances created and 4 shots today in 72 minutes, nice..

    RVP 3/6 shots on target, Mata 3/4..

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  8. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    I think even the most hardcore United fans would admit that Torres Red-Card was really unfair, but that Ivan one was blatant.

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    1. THE SQUARE ONE
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, about the Ivan one, can't be helped. Once it is a foul, he's gone.

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Really did take one for the team there...

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    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Torres was a yellow card. Of course it was harsh.

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      1. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        and he got a yellow...his 2nd so off

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      2. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        I think there was minimal contact, if any.

        I'll leave Gary Neville to give us a lecture on what's a dive and what isn't...

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      3. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Any chance Facer's article's can be prepond?

        We all badly need it

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    3. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Now where is Giggs Boson? 😉

      There were quite a few others who wrote +100, +200, on that red card decision....

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        gb is wumming

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          13 years, 4 months ago

          so is granville it seems

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        2. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Sorry it was a new post and i lost connection. I'm sure it was a yellow. There was minimal contact.

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            gb.. seriously I support spurs.. it was a blatant foul on Torres

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      2. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Still unconvinced.

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          just watch the replay it's pretty clear he was clipped and Evans should have got a yellow....

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    4. Dago
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      DeGea agreed, wonder what he said.

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    5. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      How many PL will Ivanovic miss? Pity the Utd League Cup game couldn't go to replay, the next day!

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  9. Kanus hat trick
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Will be different players but there will be fireworks midweek in the cup

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  10. griff
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Carzola out for Bale next week?

    Also, is Baines vital for the next few GWs? Got Pienaar but dropping Baines frees up so much money..

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    1. Mr Smith
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Certainly the one i'm looking at, fed up with all flair and zero result from Caz.

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    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Thought he would be more of a threat with Wilshere starting especially v Queens Park Strangers. Hoping it'll be cometh the hour cometh the man time and he'll be legend v United. Unlikely though 🙁

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  11. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    verm to riise
    caz to mata

    worth a hit

    ?

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  12. passthebiscuits
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Ok so who to bring in for Torres and Ivan,from Ba/Tevez and Huth/caulker?

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    1. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      They only miss one match(league cup)

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      1. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Ivan was a straight red, no?

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        1. Jimmers
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Doesn't matter - only get 3 for violent conduct

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          1. GreennRed
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Deadly 🙂 No pun intended.

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        2. Tommy J
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Professional foul= 1 game ban

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          1. passthebiscuits
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Cool didnt realise thanks! Still gonna ship out Torres did Ba go off injured or was it tactical?

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  13. Geriatric Unathletic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Whats the crack with SAYLOR? Brought him in on my wildcard 2 weeks ago now not sure if to stick or twist???

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  14. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    RVP: 1 goal 1 assist, 3 shots on, 3 shots off, 2 successful dribbles, 2 interception
    Mata: 1 goal 3 shots on, 1 shot off, 0 successful dribbles, 1 interception

    it seems RVP will get 3 baps, Mata 2

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      RVP, 90 minutes

      Mata, 71 minutes

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        I'm not sure does it count? 90 vs 71

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    2. Canadian Football
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      +1....RVP winning team and full 90 mins

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        nice, forgot winning team edges it 🙂

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Mata was subbed and on the losing team also, no chance he gets baps over RVP I think.

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  15. Granville
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    That game was poised perfectly at 2-2, then Young runs through on goal and probably would have made it 3-2. Ivanovic is rightly sent off and the game is out of reach for Chelsea.

    Then Torres should have been sent off for the foul on Cleverly.

    Absolutely no one is talking about this.

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    1. An Púca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Neville and Souness are...they agree he should have gone for that Cleverly foul

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      1. bloody yanks
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        And if anyone knows, it's Souness.

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      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        And really the 'offside' was millimeters.

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Oh yup they are......I don't mind Torres being sent of for that foul. Just don't like factoring in karma when I want to criticize the decision. The ref made his decision solely on the dive......

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    3. Gr3g
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      And the winner comes from offside...

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  16. DLL18
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    All hail Gary Neville the voice of reason. (Never though I'd be saying that) 😀

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    1. Red-United
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      13 years, 4 months ago

      A good pundit IMO.

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      1. DLL18
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah he is a good pundit, said that from the start.

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  17. bloody yanks
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    36 + baps. Should have gone Tevez C instead of VC. :-/

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  18. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    mata and haz has to be the play

    both delivering in hard matches

    have to do it

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  19. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Hang on a second that 1st Torres tackle was a definite red card and people are on here bitching about his second yellow. Yes, the second yellow was harsh but the first yellow was extremely lenient.

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    1. DLL18
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      2 wrongs don't make a right though. 😉

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Yes they do.

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      2. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Ah but karma is a bitch 😀

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    2. I taught Ashley Young how t…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      +1

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    3. Nice1Cyrille
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      +1

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    4. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Harsh + Lenient = Red Card

      I get this now!

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    5. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      But Fergie always gets the good calls 🙄

      Even as an Arsenal fan, it gets sooo boring and repetitive, the amount of shite some people talk about United is ridiculous.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Agreed, very very boring to have to deal with this every big match.

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  20. Nice1Cyrille
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Gary Neville scathing of Clattenburg

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  21. I taught Ashley Young how t…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Just seen slow-mo of Torres kick to Cleverley. Torres should have been sent off earlier

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  22. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    "As of now there are zero teams with a positive head-to-head record v Manchester United in the Premier League era. (Chelsea level with W13-D15-L13)."

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  23. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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    13 years, 4 months ago

    Loving Gary Neville. passionate... Tell it like it is.

    Best pundit hands down.

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    1. Nice1Cyrille
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      agree

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    2. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Absolutely agree.

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  24. Spencer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    52 pre-baps.

    First green arrow of the season?

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  25. Red-United
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Lots of talk on here about people removing Cazorla which just feels like a mistake waiting to happen IMO.

    I am sticking.

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    1. Spencer
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I'm sticking too for the moment

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    2. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      yeh i have this feeling he will deliver soon so cant make the move to mata yet.

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    3. griff
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Nothing at home to QPR- posibly the last straw for me. Thinking of a straight swap for Bale

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  26. Canadian Football
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    RVP is much more dangerous with Young/Valencia on the wings

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      No doubt.

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      1. Canadian Football
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        from a fantasy perspective very fustrating to watch as an RVP owner with welbeck on the pitch

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  27. Red Viper
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba.....is it the first time they scored in the same match?

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    1. emperikal
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I sense there's a changing of the guard upon us.

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  28. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Thank heavens for the League Cup

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  29. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    NEW POST
    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2012/10/28/the-stock-check-gameweek-9-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-4195328

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  30. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Balanced team vs RVP with his tough fixtures.......At least, that debate ends in my mind.

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