[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
25 November 2012 3203 comments
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After a damp and limp Saturday serving, Fantasy managers are desperately looking to today’s agenda to provide thrills, goals and returns. The four matches certainly have potential, beginning with Liverpool’s trip to Wales to face Swansea at the Liberty. Luis Suarez will carry the hopes of many going into this match, with a stream of talent continuing throughout the day with the likes of Juan Mata, Eden Hazard, Gareth Bale, Carlos Tevez, Sergio Aguero and Demba Ba all in action.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch all your reactions in real-time.

The team news is in and is as follows:

Chico returns to the heart of the hosts’ back-four, with Garry Monk dropping out. Michael Laudrup’s second alteration sees Wayne Routledge replace Nathan Dyer on the flank and with Ki Sung-Yeung fit enough only for the bench, Michu keeps his role in “the hole”, with Itay Shechter leading the line again.

Swansea Starting XI: Tremmel, Rangel, Williams (c), Chico, Davies, Britton, de Guzman, Routledge, Hernandez, Michu, Shechter

Brendan Rodgers makes two changes from the side that saw off Wigan last weekend. The Liverpool boss hands Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson starts, with Andre Wisdom and Suso missing out. Henderson’s installation is likely to see Steven Gerrard moved into the more advanced central midfield role once again, while Rodgers has confirmed that Downing will come in at left-back, with Jose Enrique keeping the role on the left of the front three. Wisdom had previously started the last seven for the Reds but picked up a knock in midweek on Europa League duties.

Liverpool Starting XI: Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Downing, Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, Sterling, Suarez, Enrique

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. SirStevieG
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    31 with Mata and Jaask currently playing 🙁

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    1. berbatron
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      27 with Mata and Bale

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      1. SirStevieG
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        Puncheon my highest with 6.
        2 cleansheets in Cameron and Sterling

        Rest all 2's!!!

        Lame!

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  2. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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    United Fan but got to say, think Kompany is one of the best captains I have ever seen.

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    1. LeBron - King of Argentina
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      He's very good when fully fit.

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    2. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
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      Captain? What position is that?

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      1. Says
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        It's not a position. It does not stop him being one of the best at it.

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  3. Flying Assassins
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    3 clean sheets are the only positives this week 🙁 Thank you Clyne, Cameron & Begovic

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    1. Gobigorgohome
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      LOL I have same three. Here hoping Baines bps too. 😀 Captained Rooney 10 pts. 😆

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  4. mutatedllama
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    1) Pienaar -> Silva
    or
    2) Ba -> Fletcher?

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    1. naruto4kamil
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      1) Pienaar -> Silva

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  5. Drip Doctor
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    Ba has got to go, question is for who? Fletcher? Or do you raise funds and get Suarez/Tevez/Aguero?

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    1. Evs
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Fletcher for next 3 that includes a dgw,and QPR & nor.

      Then boot him out.

      MoN must be targeting 6 points from next 2 games.

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    2. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
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      I'm checking out Giroud and even Crouch.

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  6. IamIronMike
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    Of all things that's likely going to cost me my place in the next round of the PP cup it's a bloody Southampton cleanie 🙁

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  7. Back to Back Ballacks
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    What did the Bap Fairy predict for the Stoke game?

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    1. Owd Big 'Ed
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Adam 3
      N'Zonzi 2
      Huth 1

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    2. Viper
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      Huth 3, Shawcross 2, Begovic 2. Both Crouch & Adam are close

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        That's what I need to hear, have Huth and Shawx 😉
        Down by 1 in my cup game if spurs concede.

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        1. Viper
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          Good luck!

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  8. The Finnisher
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    Damn all of you who told me to captain RVP over Clyne and Davies.

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    1. Sleep Talk
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      I'm terribly sorry. 🙁

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Are you Captain Hindsight? 😀

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  9. Captain Shirokov
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    I swear to God, if Tevez comes on, I will have a mental breakdown.

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      What if he comes on and scores?

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    2. The Finnisher
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      Of course he will.

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    3. Yossi
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      Looks tough at the top, lucky I'm nowhere near there :)... Gws coming thick and fast though, head up CS!

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    4. Back to Back Ballacks
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Course he will! Sorry dude but you know he will.

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    5. Sleep Talk
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      Didn't think about that! I might actually get Clyne in from my bench if Tevez doesn't come on! 😀

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  10. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    right had enough

    ba to fletcher and simpson to enrique for free?

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
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      If you've had enough why are you asking

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    2. Screaming Midget
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      I'd probs do Enrique GW15

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  11. Screaming Midget
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    32 with whatever Mata and Tevez score.... EPIC!

    I remember the days when a Tevez Ba RVP front 3 was pretty good.... 😛 🙁

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yep me too... though there wasn't much better on offer this week

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    2. berbatron
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      For ages I've been telling everyone Lukaku Naismith and Defoe is the perfect strikeforce. Perhaps NOW they will listen

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  12. COMH
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Right lads

    Do I bench Mignolet and Cuellar after that horror show yesterday? Arry = goals

    Got Clyne (h) to Norwich and Ridgewell @ Swansea instead of Cuellar.

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Play one Sun defender i reckon

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    2. Nomar
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      We have no strikers. Not sure what Harry can do for us. I think we should already have a big phat R next to our name in the table.

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  13. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
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    Worst ever Premiership away strip?

    This is quite good http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Arsenal/images/arsenal-1991-1993-change.gif

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    1. Back to Back Ballacks
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      link blocked

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        1. Back to Back Ballacks
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          That was pretty popular back in the day, not my cuppa tea but was v.popular

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  14. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    From watching the Soton game. Ramirez gets in better positions than Lallana naturally for chances. Lallana has the extra bonus of set pieces and being pretty creative overall himself. It's still hard to choose between the two. I think Lallana could be a future England international...maybe I'm hyping him up too much but he looks great.

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      And Puncheon?

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        Very attacking. Definitely looks to shoot first.

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    2. Owd Big 'Ed
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      He's up there with Silva and Mata in terms of attacking potential and is more nailed on than the others.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      They're both equals imo. Lallana more nailed on for 90mins and is very lively.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        The 90 mins is a good point too

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  15. Smakies
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Clyne last week : gets an assist but my 3rd sub !
    Me midweek: Surely Clyne won't do much agaisnt Ba so let's put him 3rd sub
    Clyne today : My highest scoring player but 3rd sub
    Me today : FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECK!!!!!!!!!

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      typical charlton fan

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    2. Captain Shirokov
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      Exact same for me.

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    3. Lateriser 12
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      Yep same here. Learning a few lessons.

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    4. bennydebull
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      I had davies and clyne cleanies today - What were the chances?

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  16. rohan
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on getting in Gera for the next GW??

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      high bench risk

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    2. berbatron
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Whem mulumbu comes back Morrison moves back into hole and Gera dorpped. At least I hope so being a Morrison owner

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    3. rohan
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers

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  17. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    Im not selling neither Ba or baines

    Need to keep faith because if i sell 1 or both will score big in the next GW

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    1. Kostja
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      +1 im keeping faith will the same guys and jelly too. Hopefully it will pay off

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    2. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      typo scrap neither

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    3. Mindless Freak
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      If you keep they'll do a Timmy Cahill

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  18. Blando
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    I think Suarez is very much aware of his current card situation, seems to have totally changed how he reacts to situations over the last few games.

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  19. 88mph
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    This board has too many posters on it - at least 3/4 need culling.

    Maybe we can hold some sort of competition?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      yeah.. especially dont like those unknown, gravatarless, linkless types.. oh wait 🙂

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      1. 88mph
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        Actually this was the competition and you won with your smiley.

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  20. Jinswick
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Options this week - which gets your pick?

    a) Ba -> Tevez
    b) Fellaini -> Sess
    c) Save and then do either of the below next week (in 2 days):
    ----- i) Hughes & Taarabt -> Enrique & Sterling
    ----- ii) Taarabt & Ba -> Puncheon & Suarez
    ------iii) Fellaini -> Walcott (saving the other transfer)

    Federici, (Jaask)
    Baines, Cuellar, Clyne, (Hughes), (McCartney)
    Bale, Silva, Michu, Fellaini, (Taarabt)
    RVP, Ba, Fletcher
    Bank 1.4m, 1 freebie

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    1. Blando
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'd favour Fel to Sess, just did Peanut to Sess myself and fairly confident in it. Tsking Fel is more risky perhaps but the upcoming DGW + Everton's fixtures can justify it imo.

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  21. Demí
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Wondering whether Ramirez not playing 90 minutes, getting booked, and having shots off target will mean Lallana whom had 3 out of 3 on target and played 90 sneaks ahead of him for the 3bps..

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      According to the Bap fairy it does.

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      1. Demí
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        Cheers, could do with the extra bap given how poor my teams done this week.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          13 years, 5 months ago

          Damn, you have Lallana as well? I was hoping he would be a differential in our La Liga match 🙁

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      2. bennydebull
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        what page was bap fairy projections on? saves me a little time 😉

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          1. bennydebull
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            13 years, 5 months ago

            ty - only for the soton game so far?

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            1. Billy Gilmore
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              13 years, 5 months ago

              The others are earlier, just do a search for bap fairy in this article and you'll find it.

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    2. rohan
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      I certainly hope not

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    3. LeBron - King of Argentina
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      ANy BAPS for Puncheon Demi in your opinion?

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
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        1

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        1. LeBron - King of Argentina
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          That would be awesome

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  22. bennydebull
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    Cheeky Clyne bap today?

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  23. Owd Big 'Ed
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    To all Ba owners.

    He got a hat trick at Stoke last season.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      thanks but he won't do anything this season, newcastle are shocking

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    2. Evs
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, but Newcastle were playing a lot better then with key creative player fit.

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    3. Drip Doctor
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      The two are completely different teams from last season.

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      1. Kostja
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1 Stoke had Upson and even Woodgate playing 😀 or at least one of them in that game.

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      2. SPorting
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        they're two completely different teams every season.

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    4. The Finnisher
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      When Newcastle were pushing for 4th and Stoke were suffering from the classic Europa League hangover?

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    5. OPTA FPL
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      he's fine, just the team has so many injuries atm

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  24. denial
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Huge CS from Clyne given how low scoring this week is.

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    1. kroky
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      +100000

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      1. bennydebull
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        I love it when you're cheapo players do well 😉

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  25. Jafooli
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    I actually don't know my score, can't bare to visit the FPL website.......

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    1. rohan
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      You know it in your head don't you?? 😉

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      1. Jafooli
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        I don't think it's even reached 20pts yet......

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        1. rohan
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          Good thing you can redeem it early

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          1. Jafooli
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            Indeed......but then again I look at the squad and think where?

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  26. SPorting
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    my highest scorer this week is currently sitting on my bench as first sub.

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    1. Sleep Talk
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      My two highest are 1st and 3rd sub here. I guess it's just one of those weeks. Again... 😉

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    2. Captain Shirokov
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      Same.

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  27. Sleep Talk
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    Do we expect Puncheon to be rested for Jay on Tuesday since h eplayed the full 90 minutes? Contemplating doing Kightly and Pienaar to Silva and Puncheon (and then have to decide whether or not to play Puncheon over Caz, AJ or Michu). Thealternative is to just do Pienaar out for Ramirez this week, and Kightly out for Morrison next week. By moving around a bit with my money, I could do AJ to Silva for GW 17.

    What do people think? Planning too far ahead? 😛

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
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      Hes played full 90 for last 3 games i think

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  28. COMH
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    My whole back 5 is good enough to play this week.

    Rafael (h) to West Ham

    Ridgewell @ Swansea

    Cameron (h) to Newcastle

    Cuellar (h) to QPR

    Clyne (h) to Norwich

    Do I bench Berbatov @ Chelsea and play a back 4?

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    1. Captain Shirokov
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      The way this season has gone, it's been so hard to predict CS's. Play Berba.

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      1. COMH
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        Can you pick a back 3 from my 5?

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        1. Captain Shirokov
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          Cameron, Cuellar, Rafa (if it looks like he'll start)

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          1. COMH
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            You not think WBA will keep Swansea quiet pretty comfortably. They barely have a striker playing or at least scoring and WBA are pretty solid.

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        2. COMH
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          Playing Begovic and benching Mignolet.

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        3. LeBron - King of Argentina
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          Rafael, Cameron/Clyne and Ridgewell.

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    2. LeBron - King of Argentina
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      I am tempted to bench Berba too personally.

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    3. OPTA FPL
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      bench Berb

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  29. Pratik
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    So the big games are high-scoring, aren't they? 😉

    This year has been an exception so far. Usually they often go like today's City-Chelsea

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      Typically cagey affairs.

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  30. Jafooli
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    Anyone want to sell me an assist or CS? 20 quid.....

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    1. Captain Shirokov
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      I'll offer 30.

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      1. Jafooli
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        40

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      I'll give you a Tremmel off the bench.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        ....for 20 quid a point...

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      2. Jafooli
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        Deal.....

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          *shakes hand*

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