[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
25 November 2012 3203 comments
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After a damp and limp Saturday serving, Fantasy managers are desperately looking to today’s agenda to provide thrills, goals and returns. The four matches certainly have potential, beginning with Liverpool’s trip to Wales to face Swansea at the Liberty. Luis Suarez will carry the hopes of many going into this match, with a stream of talent continuing throughout the day with the likes of Juan Mata, Eden Hazard, Gareth Bale, Carlos Tevez, Sergio Aguero and Demba Ba all in action.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch all your reactions in real-time.

The team news is in and is as follows:

Chico returns to the heart of the hosts’ back-four, with Garry Monk dropping out. Michael Laudrup’s second alteration sees Wayne Routledge replace Nathan Dyer on the flank and with Ki Sung-Yeung fit enough only for the bench, Michu keeps his role in “the hole”, with Itay Shechter leading the line again.

Swansea Starting XI: Tremmel, Rangel, Williams (c), Chico, Davies, Britton, de Guzman, Routledge, Hernandez, Michu, Shechter

Brendan Rodgers makes two changes from the side that saw off Wigan last weekend. The Liverpool boss hands Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson starts, with Andre Wisdom and Suso missing out. Henderson’s installation is likely to see Steven Gerrard moved into the more advanced central midfield role once again, while Rodgers has confirmed that Downing will come in at left-back, with Jose Enrique keeping the role on the left of the front three. Wisdom had previously started the last seven for the Reds but picked up a knock in midweek on Europa League duties.

Liverpool Starting XI: Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Downing, Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, Sterling, Suarez, Enrique

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Corrigan
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    Allen Ki face-off!

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      1. Jafooli
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        🙂

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      2. Corrigan
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        I need to get down to Ikea...

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      Sounds like a nasty collision.

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  2. JT's Dog
      13 years, 5 months ago

      did anyone hear anything about valencia injury in terms of likely time out.
      Willing to admit mistake and dump him straight back out

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      1. Demí
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        1 week

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        1. JT's Dog
            13 years, 5 months ago

            so likely to only miss mid week , or next weekend also

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            1. Demí
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              He's in such poor form that i'd just cut your losses with him anyway even if he does only miss the midweek game.

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              1. JT's Dog
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  thinking that now, was hoping his form would turn over easier fixtures but gamble fail

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            2. Portuguese&Proud
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              Demi no line-up from Spurs yet?

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              1. Jax
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                it's only 2.40

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          • Portuguese&Proud
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            could be back maybe next week..

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            1. Portuguese&Proud
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              ^^
              SAF words

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        2. 4-4-who?
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          Ba to rip it up this afternoon...bookmark this. Fancy a hat-trick.

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          1. Jax
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            with their patched up team. hardly.

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          2. bdwhite91
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            Totally, bro. He'll get so much service today lol

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            1. Jax
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              from ben arfa...oh wait.

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        3. Jafooli
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          Reckon the MON offering to resign is a little bit of MON mind games? Trying to kick start his players?

          'Look guys! I might havE to go, if this carries on. And then you'll be left with Hughes or Dowie. up to you now'

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          1. fusen
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            It was a made up bullshit rumour

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            1. Jafooli
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              Yeah true, but maybe by MON himself?

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          2. Champy
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            Heard something about family issues, don't know more but he quit the game before when his wife was ill

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          3. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
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            He said he's resign in 2 years time if things haven't picked up by then. I still think he can make it work.

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        4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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          Without googling, guess where Itay Shechter is from.

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          1. Declan
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            Latvia

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          2. DLL18
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            Israel

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          3. Ross Geller
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            Switzerland

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          4. Billy Gilmore
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            Romania?

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          5. Pinoche
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            Germany?

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          6. BOOM XHAKALACA
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            Israel, heard it somewhere before

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          7. Andy1
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            Is it Israel?

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          8. Jax
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            israel obviously with a name like 'itay'

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              Not Italy? 😀

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          9. Jafooli
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            Wales

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          10. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            Dagenham

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          11. 4-4-who?
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            Or in the West Midlands..

            Is thot yower name? No, it 'ay.

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          12. Champy
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            Golders Green

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        5. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          No goals 🙁
          Not liking this.

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          1. Jax
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            and there's so little time left...hang on.

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        6. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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          so gutted sagna didnt play yesterday.....

          any chance hell play next match??

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            Yeah but sell him soon because he will get rotated long term

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            1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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              anyone more nailed on? good fixtures........

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              1. Portuguese&Proud
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                Gibbs since Santos is injured...

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              2. Andy1
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                Gibbs I think

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          2. Portuguese&Proud
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            most likely he was on the bench, so Wenger just gave him a day off

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          3. Jax
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            he will start v everton.

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          4. isacki: full casual
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            Rotated.

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        7. Team Hayemaker
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          This sis dire

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        8. COMH
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          Danny Graham needs brought back into the fold. Michu made an impact making late runs into the box not leading the line. C'mon Michael let's get back to basics.

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          1. Andy1
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            Is that Danny graham who is mourned today?

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            1. Andy1
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              Injured even

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              1. Corrigan
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                you were right first time

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          2. Corrigan
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            See bottom of last page.

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        9. Jafooli
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          Go Michu...bang it home......

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        10. Le Bluff
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          Got a spare fiver in my Paddy Power account that I wanna throw at the Chelsea v City game... any bets worth going for?

          Both teams to score looks fairly certain..

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          1. 4-4-who?
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            Torres fist GS & Chelsea win 9/1

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            1. Jax
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              chelsea win 1-0. torres scorer.

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            2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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              Torres fists the first GS?...

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            3. Billy Gilmore
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              I wouldn't even take Torres FGS @ 9/1 never mind a Chelsea win as well.

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          2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            erm both teams to score then

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            1. Le Bluff
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              Any other ideas ya plonker?

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              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                got loads of them but as u say this is fairly certain that sounds like the best idea Rodders

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        11. The EJJ
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          This would be such a great win for Liverpool, just don't see it happening.

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        12. 4-4-who?
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          Come on swans

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        13. isacki: full casual
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          Stats work, but this game is a good example of where watching does wonders for identifying options. Both Enrique and Sterling look very dangerous, Glen Johnson is often dribbling in the hole! (In fairness the stats have picked him up for ages).

          Credit to Rodgers, after a very difficult start and injury madness his plan is coming together. Dangerous team.

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          1. Hazmat
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            Credit to Benitez for buying Sterling, Suso and Wisdom!

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        14. Scroobius Mac
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          Rumours Dembele misses out for Spurs.

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          1. Jafooli
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            Oh bollocks.....not again......need him to make Bale work proper

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          2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            bollox... we need him back badly

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            1. Scroobius Mac
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              I know. Hope Carroll plays over Hud if so.

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          3. Jax
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            like he has done the past 6 or so games.

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            1. Scroobius Mac
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              But he came off the bench in the week so was hopeful he'd be back today.

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              1. Jax
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                wouldn't rush him back

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              2. isacki: full casual
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                He played Europa as well, didn't he, FFS!

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                1. Scroobius Mac
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                  😆 You're a bloody Arsenal fan. I'd be delighted if Arteta was out.

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                  1. isacki: full casual
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                    I'm a Bale owner 😆

                    We got the win out if the way against you so I'm not holding much against you right now 😆

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          4. isacki: full casual
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            Terrible news. Getting twitchy on bale now.

            Not worth guessing if he can make pool game is it?

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            1. Scroobius Mac
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              Guessing on an unconfirmed rumour? No probably not.

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              1. isacki: full casual
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                Yeah just working with what we have, and it would be no surprise. If GW missed out today it would presumably be injury - nailed on I assume.

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        15. Jafooli
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          What you reckon the Spanish waiter will bring to the table at Chelsea today?

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          1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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            The desert trolley for frank.

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            1. super zlatan
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              Loooooooool

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        16. the Penman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Well, at least if it ends up 0-0 Michu will score my first real point of the week...

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        17. Piggs Boson
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          Enrique and Downing. The most creative left-sided pair in the Premiership. Baines & Pienaar have competition 😆

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          1. df34
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            Just Enrique on his own i think vs Baines and Pienaar:-)

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          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            Pienaar didn't even play left wing I heard yesterday...Oviedo took his place! 🙄

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        18. 4-4-who?
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          Which position is Enrique playing?

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          1. Soccaholic
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            LM

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          2. Piggs Boson
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            LF

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        19. bhargi
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          Just started watching - where is Wisdom ?

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          1. Andy1
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            Liverpool

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            1. JELLYFISH
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              your so funny man

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          2. Declan
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            injured

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            1. bhargi
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              tks Declan

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          3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            Wisdom cannot simply be discovered, it needs to be learned...through years of trials and tribulations. Only then can you call yourself wise.

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          1. Declan
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            Should go for Sterling instead 😉

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        20. mutatedllama
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          Fairly sure Tremmel should have 6 saves now.

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          1. tm245
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            That would be nice. Benched Jussi for him.

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        21. Brutus619
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          Please let me know if my plan is OK! I need to catch ML rivals who are both 60+ points ahead of me :/

          Team (+£3.7m):

          Begovic

          Davies Baines Rafael Gorkss Cuellar

          Valencia Sterling Bale Fellaini Puncheon

          Berbatov Ba VP

          Three step plan (over 3 GW):

          1. Valencia + Berba out, Silva + Tevez in for 4 points.

          2. Baines out, Enrique in.

          3. Ba out, Suarez in.

          Will be left with £0.4m to do smaller upgrades such as Gorkss to Shorey etc

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        22. stooshermadness
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Brought in Pablo Hernandez for Fellaini this week off his performance last week. Looks Swansea's best player so far.

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        23. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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          Enrique more reserved 2nd half

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        24. TokyoRed 東京赤
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Why was Shane Long taken off on 68 yesterday?

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          1. Declan
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            He comes off early in every game.

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            1. TokyoRed 東京赤
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Thanks, needs more thought then - Crouch to X...

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              1. Soccaholic
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                Fletcher maybe?

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        25. Andy1
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          My current team is

          Foster begovic
          Baines cole garrido cuellar clyne
          Mata bale michu pienaar noble
          Rvp ba pogrebnyak

          I have two free transfers. Should I do:

          A. Cole & ba –> shorey & tevez
          B. foster & ba –> tremmel & tevez
          C. Cole & pog –> shorey & fletcher
          D. Cole & pog –> shorey & long
          E. Cole & pog –> shorey & lambert

          Or something else?

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          1. The Bandit
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            Sod off, that's about 6 times now. Watch the game

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            1. Declan
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              Crap score.

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          2. Portuguese&Proud
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            cole and pog out

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            1. Andy1
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              Lambert, long or fletcher?

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        26. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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          How's Enrique looking up top?

          *giggles*

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          1. Piggs Boson
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            😀 He's looking good for 6pts at the moment!

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              2 for playing and 4 for scoring as a striker! 😉

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        27. isacki: full casual
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          This is the least boring 0-0 I have seen for a long time

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          1. Mid-Table Obscurity
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            +1 decent game so far

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            1. Mid-Table Obscurity
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              did you get to see the villa arse game though? 🙂

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              1. isacki: full casual
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                Yes 🙁

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        28. The Chosen One...
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          I can see a Dyer substitute goal.....

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          1. SirStevieG
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            I cant

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