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27 November 2012 2121 comments
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We ease ourselves into Gameweek 14 with two Tuesday night matches that, on the surface, promise little but may yet surprise.

It’s difficult to know what to expect from the clash at the Stadium of Light where Martin O’Neill’s Sunderland face Harry Redknapp’s new QPR “project”. Aston Villa’s meeting with struggling Reading provides the other distraction, a game devoid of established Fantasy assets but affording us the opportunity to assess the Royals’ potential ahead of the double Gameweek 16.

As always on matchday’s, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to capture your views and emotions as the night’s action unfolds.

The team news finds Sunderland make two changes as John O’Shea fails to overcome the calf injury sustained against West Brom as Matt Kilgallon comes in; Craig Gardner starts ahead of Jack Colback in midfield. Redknapp is able to recall Jose Bosingwa to his back four, while Esteban Granero and Samba Diakite come into the midfield at the expense of Ale Faurlin and Shaun Derry.

Villa are forced into a change at the back with Ron Vlaar failing to recover from the injury that forced him off against Arsenal – Nathan Baker comes in to replace him. There’s also a change in midfield with Brett Holman getting the nod ahead of Karim El Ahmadi. Reading make two notable changes with Chris Gunter and Fantasy favourite Kaspars Gorkss making way, as Shaun Cummings and Adrian Mariappa are drafted in.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. MountainBeach
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    which transfer to make hazard to mata/silva
    or rafael to enrique?
    i still think united will sort out their def soon..

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    1. Blue-Ghosts
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      hazard to silva

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    2. Golden Oldies
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      they'll prob sort out their defence when Rafael gets dropped.

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  2. RHCP
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Begovic
    Nelsen Olsson Baines
    Bale(VC) Nolan Michu Fellani
    Van Persie(C) Fletcher Tevez
    SUBS: Green Gorkss McCartney Guthrie

    1 free transfer and .6 in the bank. I know I need Liverpool coverage but I am not sure exactly who I want to bring in, Suarez would be the ideal option but I don't know if I want to remove any of my strikers right now. Any suggestions?

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    1. RHCP
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Possibly Baines to Enrique and Tevez to Suarez? I would wait until the end of tomorrows games, but do those transfers look good?

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  3. Brookins
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Need to get Crouch out, and have enough for Defoe, even if he rises by 0.1. Im thinking of waiting til tomorrow night, see how the game against us pans out and then making a decision. A wise move?

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    1. Captain Remorse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      If money is tight do it now, otherwise hold.

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    2. Brookins
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Or another possible move. Crouch to Berba then in 2 weeks Berba to defoe?

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  4. villian-ty
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Baines to Enrique to beat price rises?

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      No... but do it anyway. You know the risks so why bother asking???

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  5. MountainBeach
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    so is everyone getting enrique then

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    1. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I got him earlier this evening, I am hoping he and Sterling will do well instead of Suarez

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Rodgers...

      Rodgers has introduced a new element to his team in recent weeks, with defender Jose Enrique being pushed forward into an attacking role - a move the manager believes suits all parties.

      He reflected: "I think he's been outstanding and it's a great credit to him. He and I spoke earlier on in the season about trying to develop and improve his game.

      "It's an interesting one because he's a real threat going forward with his pace and his power. You could see in the last three games how determined he is to get a goal.

      "But you also see his defensive qualities because he's tracking back. He's been a real plus for us and it's great to see because he's worked very hard.

      "It hasn't been easy for him but I think you've seen his commitment. How he's been working every day, you're seeing that now on the field.

      "I'm delighted for him because he's good guy and he wants to do well for this club.

      "Jose played in that position early on in his career but since he's come to this country he's played more as a full-back.

      "You can see he's got the qualities to play the role - he is an offensive player who has got great pace and power, can take people on and he's a real threat when he gets into the final third.

      "He's comfortable in the position, which is important, and it gives us that great thrust at the top end of the field."

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      1. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        that piece seals the deal for me

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  6.  ⓖⓐⓩⓩⓐ™
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Thinking of using my ft, Jaaskerlainen out Mignolet in
    Jasks fixtures look dreadful and mugs has Norwich, followed by the double gw, what yas think?

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    1. Absinthe Minded
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Do it

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    2. Don Andres
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      It will be chasing points. No guarantee for a CS against Norwich, and after the DGW i don't fancy Sunderlands fixtures.

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  7. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Should I shoot for Suarez or settle for Giroud and a better defense?

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    1. An Púca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Giroud and Enrique

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers.

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  8. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone have a player that the constantly check they can still find space for despite immediate plans being elsewhere. I'm constantly conscious of finding space for Aguero. My plans all revolve around somehow getting 11m to spend on a striker in an emergency. Am I mad?

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    1. alamodey
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      no, i'm doing the exact same thing. slowly freeing up money here and there, this week i released baines. if newcastle's form doesn't pickup, meaning Ba's goals dry up then i'll be ready to pull the trigger and bring in aguero.

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      No, I keep trying to keep sufficient cash for Walcott...

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    3. Jandal Tan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Lol, have been working towards getting 11m for most of the season, finally did it for this GW...

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    4. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Suarez. Been planning to bring him in for this weekend for a few weeks. Still hope he gets booked though so I don't need to!

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  9. Fishy
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    link test ? i do have 12 points on the bench

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    1. Jimbo123
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Chufties

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    2. Brookins
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yes you do, only decision I would of made was Cuellar over Clyne, but a very tough call.

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      1. Fishy
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        great rank

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      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        He asked the question and the only reply he got was from me... telling him to bench Clyne...

        #nosympathy

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        1. Fishy
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          you said you were going to play clyne

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    3. SAMCRO-Sons Of Fantasy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      link says 2pts + a hit!

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      1. SAMCRO-Sons Of Fantasy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        + 12 on the bench 😉

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        1. ManUFan
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          i count 11 on bench

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          1. SAMCRO-Sons Of Fantasy
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Yep, 11!

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    4. Captain Remorse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      You wold never play your QPR defender though!

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      1. Fishy
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        true

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  10. Jimbo123
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Moving forwards, do we think Enrique, Raheem and Suarez is overkill !?

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    1. MountainBeach
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      got the same problem
      got sterling and suarez
      dosent feel right having 3 liverpool players lol

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      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        I think I'm about to do this, 3 best value players in the game atm I think.. Even though it does feel so wrong to have 3 Pool players!

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    2. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I am sticking with Enrique and Sterling, I think.

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      1. Jimbo123
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Going without Suarez? Not sure I've got the minerals for that.....

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        1. Art Vandelay
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          To be honest, I have a 4 point plan to bring him in tomorrow night, but I don't plan to do it as things stand. I am sorting of hoping for a Yellow tomorrow, to remove the temptation.

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  11. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Larsson and Gorkss --> Sterling and Enrique a no brainer with 2 FT right?

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    1. Jimbo123
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yea

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    2. Joga Bonito®
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yep much better.

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    3. CravenA
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Correct

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    4. RHCP
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Those look like good transfers, I would do that.

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  12. Back to Back Ballacks
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Aguerolicious, get your ass in here

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      yessuh

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Grab hold of yourself and shake vigorously, then sit and listen!
        There's no need for a hit, you have a very decent 11. Sell S.Taylor for a cheapie (Shorey) then reevaluate after the GW.
        You have made the decision to go cheap at the back so you are gonna have times like this, you just gotta suck it up. I have to do it next week with Lambert away to Liverpool, it can't be perfect every week!

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks I have Gorkss already so Taylor to Wisdom?

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          1. Back to Back Ballacks
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Ya sounds ok, is he nailed on? I'm not so sure, I still think Rogers is playing about with things.
            Bring it to the new post.

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    2. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I got him earlier, for a 4 pointer, along with Enrique and Punch. I am disappointed I bottled it, and left the armband on RVP.

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        You're mistaking eggs for chickens

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      2. Back to Back Ballacks
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        😯

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  13. An Púca
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    look on the bright side, all those of you who bought Sess...he's going up in value tonight!

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  14. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    average 1 pt lol

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    1. EatStatic
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Even better, the top scorer with 48 points had all his players play tonight and has a 48 point penalty for making 14 transfers this week!

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  15. Bambi
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    who would you downgrade to get enrique in, baines michu fellaini

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    1. An Púca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Michu...Baines is on the verge of some big scores

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    2. Absinthe Minded
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Michu

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  16. Nabs Kebabs
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Team for gw 15:

    Begovic

    Rafael Jose Enrique Gibbs

    Mata Michu Morrison Bale

    RVP(c) Giroud(vc) Berbatov

    (Foster, Clark, Gorkss, Guthrie)

    2FT's used, 1.1 in the Bank. Guthrie will become McAnuff for the DGW.

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  17. An Púca
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    average after the 2 games is 1pt...and someone managed to get 48!!!

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    1. Bambi
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      well he is on 0 points after his transfers

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      yeah look at his players though. made up of villa, reading, blunderland and qpr

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    3. An Púca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      48pts after taking a 48pt hit!!! glory seeking team looking for their 15mins

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  18. Fantasy-er
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Dear Fergie,

    I'm the only one in the top 10 of my mini league who took the risk of captaining RVP.

    If you don't start RVP tomorrow, I might cry.

    So unless you want to see a grown man cry, please start RVP.

    Yours,

    Fantasy-er.

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    1. Damo.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      He won't give a shit. He made Beckham cry loads of times

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  19. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    just noticed the top scorer this gameweek has 48 points... after a 48 point hit.

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      surprise surprise he has all players from today's teams...

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      1. Pea Soup
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Or she...

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  20. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    So I really should have brought in Benteke over Fletcher. Selling Nelson for Garrido was possibly a bit premature. How did Sunderland look tonight? Fletch worth keeping for now?

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Also, to those who said Fletch over Benteke I hate you all....Even if I did agree with you and made the choice. 😀

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Lol, fletch was unlucky tonight,

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      dgw so yes

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Not worth it if Sunderland aren't doing anything....

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  21. emperikal
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Every other post is about Enrique! 😆

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Including this one.

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      What's his mother's name?

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  22. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    looking to ditch Mata and Jelly, have 2 FTs, which of these options looks best?

    a)Bale and Aguero
    b)Bale and Giroud
    c)Walcott and Aguero
    d)Walcott and Defoe
    e)Silva and Giroud
    f)Silva and Defoe

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      A or C IMO

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    2. emperikal
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      B or E IMO. Not biased because I have tem either hehe

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      A by a million miles, but it's by far the most expensive one too!

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      1. emperikal
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Ya much more expensive. Could you make use of extra cash elsewhere?

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          well Clyne could be upgraded.

          also just realised A is not an option anyway

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    4. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      YOU FREAKING MAD BROO?!?!?!?! WHY DITCH MATA?? WHY?

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        whm, sun, blank and Rafatation

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        1. Chu Young Ping Pong
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Umm maybe, but I'll lose 0.4m on him. That's too much.

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    5. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      A

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    6. bolekjaworski
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I would wait at least another week to see what Benito has up his sleeve...can't see the point selling quite yet....as for jelly i would go with Giroud (if you don't have Caz) or Defoe (if you do have Caz) 🙂

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    7. Absinthe Minded
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      B
      Think Giroud is going to start producing big

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  23. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Baines to Enrique right now to save that 0.1 is pretty risky, and bordering on stupid I have to say. Unless your whole transfer strategy depends on that 0.1 you're better off saving it.

    If Enrique draws a blank today you'll be able to wait until Friday with that transfer, and having the options to not take -4 if you have an injury tomorrow. Or even worse, if Enrique himself is injured tomorrow.

    It's _0.1_ out of a team value of over 100.

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Good advice 😉

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      +42

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I think I've talked myself into being patient on it. Anything could happen tomorrow and it could be calamitous.

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  24. Spike ⚽️
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    How many Spurs players will appear in QPR's team after the Jan transfer window ?

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    1. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Dawson perhaps for starters.

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Did you see Arry talking to Danny Rose at the end of the game? Looked like a tap-up to me.

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      i could see livermore going there on loan, harry played him a lot and he's not in favour with AVB at all.

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    4. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Dawson, Huddlestone & David Bentley( 😉 )

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        i see bentley is at FC Rostov, what a spiralling career!

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    5. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      2. Dawson and Hud.
      (Excluding Nelsen, Taraabt and I'm sure others)

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    6. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Parker and Dawson

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    7. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I think we are all agreed on Dawson. I wonder if that's why AVB has picked him again (to keep him sweet)

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      1. The3rdTurd
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Really? Dawson could be back in favour if AVB has realised how shit Gallas is

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  25. GreennRed
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    GW15

    Surfer Rosa:

    Begovic
    Sagna, Nastasic, Cuellar
    Sterling, Bale, Johnson, Mata
    Rooney, Long, Suarez

    Foster, Fletcher, Clark, Gorkss

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  26. Fantasy-er
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    I reckon just Bale, Walker and Defoe. So 3.

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    1. Fantasy-er
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Reply fail to spike.

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        😉

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    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Bale won't go to QPR. Dawson and ex-Spurs man Bent.

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  27. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Evening chaps, didn't see the games tonight - any players stand out?

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  28. Just One More Thing
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Team currently:

    Begovic;Foster
    Demel; Clyne; Nelsen; Baines; Rafael
    Michu; Bale; Sterling; Fellaini; Mata
    Berbs; Ba; RVP

    (£0.1m in bank) & 2 FTs

    Want to do Baines > Enrique & Ba > Suarez. Which midfielder do I bin for a 4 pointer to make up the £0.6m i need to do the first two transfers?

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    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Michu>lalana ?

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  29. super zlatan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Evening lads. Any idea how I might improve this team?

    Have 2ft. 0.0 in bank

    Bego. Fed
    Baines. Sagna. Cuellar. Clyne. Gorkks
    Mata. Bale. Felliani. Michu. Sterling
    Rvp. Tevez. Berba

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    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I would have said get Fletcher in for the dgw, and nor (a) - but I am not in a good Fletcher place currently.

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  30. Brookins
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Can I get some opinions please.

    I have Crouch and 1.2 in bank which allows me to do Crouch to Defoe right now, with 0.1 left.
    Or, i could do Crouch to Berba, for his two home games, TOT and NEW and then Berba to Defoe in 2 weeks time for SWA STO avl sun.

    I guess the call is, who is more likely to get more points. Berb vs TOT NEW or Defoe vs ful eve

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    1. Fishy
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      for them games berba yes

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    2. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Numpty here! Yeh Berbs I'd say.

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      1. Brookins
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Haha, no hard feelings. Yeah definitely feeling the Berb, defoe not likely to go up. and in those 2 games, hopefully wont go up either, so I could get defoe in after the next 2 games!

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