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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Les Bleus
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Everyone who doesn't have a player playing today (ie Giroud) don't forget that there were games in mid week. These are regular human beings who need the rest as well. So just keep the faith and chin up 🙂

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    1. Beamer
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      how come stoke players dont get rest..... they are not regular human being you mean!

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      And they'll come on and score a brace, be refreshed for next week and score a hat-trick 😀

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    3. mufc802
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Reckon Nastasic is still preferred to Lescott?

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      1. Les Bleus
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Personally, that is an interesting one. We'll find out next week and according to today's results

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    4. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      Or be jealous of people like me who so far have everyone starting 😎 things FINALLY are starting to go my way again.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Only 1 benched for me so far. Billy bloody Jones.

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      2. Cheeseoid
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        • 13 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Same here, but it doesn't mean they will perform

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    5. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      this post is too sensible for a sat afternoon!

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    6. thegame
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      i had the theory arsenal were qualified in champs league and it was a save move from jelavic. lets hope he does something off the bench

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      1. thegame
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        safe

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      2. Portuguese&Proud
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        they r qualified but i believe Wenger wants that 1st place that Schalke is holding

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  2. SirStevieG
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    There was absolutely no news of Routledge not playing whatsoever.

    I hate Swansea.

    Oh well. In comes Punch!

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      They had 10 men on the team least. Routledge not injured or benched from what we know so I think he's playing.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Check again, they have 11 players.

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Did they?

          Oh yes, missed "Ki" 🙄 my bad.

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      2. SirStevieG
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Nah there is 11 named

        Tremmel, Rangel, Williams (c), Chico, Davies, Britton, de Guzman, Ki, Dyer, Michu, Shechter

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah my bad..

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      3. JK - Cønt â­
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        nah they have 11

        1 Tremmel

        2 Rangel

        3 Williams

        4 Chicho

        5 Davies

        6 Britton

        7 JDG

        8 Ki

        9 Dyer

        10 Michu

        11 Schechter

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  3. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Jonjo Shelvey right wing? 😀

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    1. Nani R U OK? R U OK ? R U O…
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      left wing

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  4. JT's Dog
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Am I reading it right, no Suarez?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      He's playing.

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    2. Viper
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      He is playing..

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  5. CABAYE4
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Is Giroud on the bench?

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    1. athleticbilbobaggins
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

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      1. CABAYE4
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers

        A late goal off the bench would be nice.

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  6. Rafabio
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Moses off

    Marin on

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  7. â­ Bemba_Da â­
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Ridgewell is on Bench

    He has been rested

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      is morrison

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    2. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Or dropped

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    3. Park the bus
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      balls!!

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  8. Milner4eva
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    well excited about watching marin, amazing talent

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  9. Ryan
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Off to watch the rugby. Stay classy FFS and be nice

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  10. Smakies
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Do you guys think giroud could come on ?

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    1. athleticbilbobaggins
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yes. Around the 80th minute. Classic Wenger substitution. Giroud and/or Arshavin.

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      1. Smakies
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        okay then, i guess michu won't come off my bench

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      2. â­ Bemba_Da â­
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Arshavin not in squad

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        1. athleticbilbobaggins
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Well, the point was his laaate 80th minute substitutions.

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  11. The Finnisher
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    Andre Wisdom on the bench. Hopefully Shelvey has a shit game, Enrique > LW please.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      As a Liverpool fan, I hope Enrique has a shocker and is dropped.

      P.S. I own Enrique.

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        You're a strange fan ðŸ˜

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Why? I don't rate Enrique at all.

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          1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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            13 years, 7 months ago

            Well OK, but surely he's better than Downing... and as a fan, you want your team to do well, which means the players playing well, whether you like them or not!

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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              • 16 Years
              13 years, 7 months ago

              I agree with Billy.

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              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 7 months ago

                Thank you, Doos! 🙂

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                1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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                  13 years, 7 months ago

                  🙠😛

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            2. Billy Gilmore
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              13 years, 7 months ago

              I'd rather Wisdom plays, with GJ at LB.

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              1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 7 months ago

                Fair enough, good shout. But I think Enrique's better than some give him credit for.

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          2. Kuqi Monster
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 7 months ago

            hoping one of your team plays bad? I agree that's strange...

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      I'm afraidof he steals the Suarez show today

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      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Suarez has been quiet since I put him in.....
        Now it's payback time Monsieur Goofy....

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  12. Thatsnotcricket
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Ummmm why the f**k has Morrison been dropped?

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  13. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Arsenal.com ‏@Arsenal

    Substitutes: Mannone, Squillaci, Coquelin, Ramsey, Rosicky, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Giroud.

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  14. Trigg â­ï¸
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    So what's the latest around these parts guys?

    Mata is essential again, and Nasty is now out of favour, just as he was getting transferred in?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I think he might be injured. Not even on the bench.

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Mata out !.

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    3. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      with so many games in a small period of time. We are having a lot of fatigue related rotation. Hard to make out who has been dropped and who is just getting a rest.

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    4. Gobigorgohome
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Keep in mind Mata has a blank after Sun game. I will bring him back after that blank.

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    5. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Essential for SUN away and a blank in GW17? Nope.

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  15. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    so Baines v Kolarov in the battle of the left-back set-piece takers

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    1. Mílanista
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I have both in action.

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  16. For Fuchs Sake
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Looks like Enrique has gone back into defence.....

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Suarez CB

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  17. Davido989
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    Shelvey isn't on the wing you knobs

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    1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      You sound lovely.

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    2. Nani R U OK? R U OK ? R U O…
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      yes he is

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  18. rohan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Why would Wenger bench Giroud in a must wi game?

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    1. rohan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      *win

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    2. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      If you were gonna rest him you would do it in a game you'd think you could win without him....

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    3. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      cause the game midweek is probably much more difficult and equally or even more of a must win and he has played 7 games in a row in a short period of time.

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    4. Bullet Tooth Bony
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      The boy needs his rest. He'll be back better than ever.

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  19. CarelessGenius©
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Nasty injury?
    Or a day off for playing so well recently.....

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  20. Raul
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    reid nearly goal!!

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  21. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Shit, shit. ðŸ™

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  22. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Well that proves how important Demi is. Team sheet fiasco!!!

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    1. Mayhey Kid
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Demi out sick. Giroud on the bench. Rough start for a few this GW!

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  23. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Shit.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Unlucky with Giroud...

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        I have Aguero benched ðŸ™

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        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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          13 years, 7 months ago

          I have Aguero, ridgewell and morrison. I win

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        2. Jax
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          no you don't

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Never mind him - we nearly scored!

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  24. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Collins just nailed Torres

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  25. Brutus619
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    So is Enrique back at LB? :/

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yup

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  26. Rafabio
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    A. Cole clears a header off the line. Brilliant.

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Baps for that??

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  27. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    COYI!!!

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  28. JT's Dog
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Damn just realised I also captained giroud as well as swapping for tevez.

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  29. Gobigorgohome
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Rafa should be out if they draw 1-1 this match 🙂

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    1. Trigg â­ï¸
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I'm so excited ... only 2 more Chelsea managers until Christmas!!!

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  30. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    To conclude:
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    Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Arteta, Wilshere, Cazorla, Walcott, Podolski, Gervinho.
    Subs: Mannone, Squillaci, Coquelin, Ramsey, Rosicky, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Giroud.

    Swansea: Tremmel, Rangel, Williams (c), Chico, Davies, Britton, de Guzman, Ki, Dyer, Michu, Shechter.
    Subs: Cornell, Monk, Tiendalli, Agustien, Richards, Moore, Donnelly.

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    Fulham: Schwarzer, Riether, Senderos, Hughes, Riise, Sidwell, Diarra, Dejagah, Frei, Petric, Berbatov.
    Subs: Etheridge, Kelly, Baird, Karagounis, Richardson, Duff, Rodallega.

    Spurs: Lloris, Naughton, Dawson, Caulker, Vertonghen, Sandro, Dembele, Lennon, Bale, Dempsey, Defoe
    Subs: Friedel, Walker, Gallas, Carroll, Livermore, Sigurdsson & Falque

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    Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Skrtel, Agger, Lucas, Allen, Gerrard, Shelvey, Sterling, Suarez.
    Subs: Jones, Carragher, Sahin, Henderson, Downing, Suso, Wisdom.

    Soton: Gazzaniga, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Lallana, Ramírez, Lambert.
    Subs: K. Davis, Hooiveld, S. Davis, Rodriguez, Ward-Prowse, Mayuka, Reeves

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    Citeh: Hart, Maicon, Kompany, Lescott, Kolarov, Yaya Toure, Barry, Silva, Nasri, Tevez, Dzeko.
    Subs: Pantilimon, Zabaleta, Kolo Toure, Sinclair, Garcia, Aguero, Balotelli

    Everton: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Naismith, Pienaar, Osman, Gibson, Fellaini, Jelavic.
    Subs: Mucha, Oviedo, Heitinga, Hitzlsperger, Barkley, Vellios, Gueye

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    QPR: Green; Traore, Hill, Nelsen, Bosingwa; Taarabt, Diakite, Granero, Mbia, Wright-Phillips; Mackie.
    Subs: Murphy, Derry, Ferdinand, Park, Cisse, Fabio da Silva, Hoilett.

    Villa: Guzan, Clark, Agbonlahor, Holman, Westwood, Benteke, Bannan, Lichaj, Herd, Baker, Lowton
    Subs: Given, Ireland, El Ahmadi, Bent, Delph, Weimann, Williams

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    WBA: Myhill; Reid, McAuley, Olsson, Popov; Yacob, Mulumbu; Rosenberg, Gera, Dorrans; Long.
    Subs: Unsure?

    Stoke: Begovic; Shotton, Shawcross (c), Huth, Cameron; Walters, Whelan, Nzonzi, Adam, Etherington; Jones.
    Subs: Sorensen, Palacios, Whitehead, Upson, Kightly, Wilkinson, Jerome.

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    1. Trigg â­ï¸
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks!

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    2. Granville
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      • 17 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      West Brom subs: Daniels, Ridgewell, Morrison, Brunt, Odemwingie, Lukaku, Tamas.

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers Granny. No B.Jones ðŸ™

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