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The Numbers Game – Festive Form – Defenders

5 January 2013 4777 comments
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Continuing our round-up of the Christmas period, it’s time to treat our members to a series of articles which examines each of the positions and analyses the form of the key protagonists over the past four Gameweeks. We start in defence, by casting an eye over the top tens for our ICT Index, plus a more in-depth look at the main performers in terms of goal threat and creativity….

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Yet again, Baines is causing me a bloody headache. Feel like he's a great pick for the WC given his fixtures and the usual stuff. Who's getting him in?

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    1. beric
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      GW24 wc might well see him arrive back in my team.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Had him since GW4, I can't sell now.

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      1. The Quiff
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        I'm in a similar boat. Thought him essential season-keeper back in GW4/5, not so sure now. See my post below (and weigh in with an opinion, if you have one).

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    3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I'd avoid. had him at the start, got some nice points, took him out and he hasn't set the world on fire. Money spent well elsewhere (Fellaini for a little bit more?)

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      1. Jonah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        I'm making of point of having both Fellaini and baines on the wildcard. Jinswick has read it right, those fixtures (and the quality of the two players) should be screaming out to anyone on a wildcard this week.

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      2. Steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        agree with Tommy, I held on to him far too long, sold him just before the newcastle game tho 🙁

        Still money better spent elsewhere

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    4. Jonah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      He's in on my wildcard.

      70 chances created, 2 assists. Everton are probably in the top half of the league in terms of the quality of their defensive players, but they have 2 clean sheets.

      He is going to score a lot more points.

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        That tells you everything about the failure to turn his chances into points though

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  2. Paul
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    okay Chelsea fans

    Hazard or Lampard????....who's the most likely to play both matches in the DGW???....apart from mata i.e.

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    1. 4vets
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I'm sure both will play, but not that much. Haz for me (coz I have him).

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    2. Kostja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Looking at the passports, I think Hazard. Could make a better guess after Wednesdays game

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  3. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    WC 1.0 ACTIVATED 😉

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Good man.

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  4. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Why is everyone so sure Cech will be out for both DGW games?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Just a guess.

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    2. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Benitez said so.

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      1. ViperStripes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Source?

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        1. Just Ruud
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-john-terrys-comeback-date-1517030

          mentioned somewhere in there..

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    3. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      fantasy football scout said in the article a previpous one

      Cech’s injury will see Turnbull start at Stoke in Gameweek 22 and maybe even against Arsenal at the Bridge following that

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      1. ViperStripes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers usually read all the articles, must have missed tht one

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      2. Steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        physioroom says return to training GW23 so likey to be back GW24

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  5. Jonah
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone aggree that Kilgallon of Sunderland is good shout if you;re on a wildcard? Other centre-backs are injured, he's only 4.1 and they have the best defensive fixtures in the league coming up.

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    1. fdotman
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      was thinking this

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      1. Jonah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        I think I'm right in saying he must be a nailed on starter for the forseeable, barring any signings.

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        1. fdotman
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Shaw, Demel, Kigallon, R Martin for me, then Martin->Wilson in time for Stoke vs Wigan (if he's fit)

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    2. Still No Eye Dia
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yep. With Demel & Shaw that's a ready-made cheapo rotation.

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      1. Jonah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Exactly the three I had come up with!

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    3. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      yep

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  6. Indalo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Nastasic ➡ Azpi, yes or no ❓

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    1. b3- bish bash bosh
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Ye

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      waiting for Terry news

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    3. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      nasti didnt start again today,,,,,,,,,

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  7. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Will any of the following players rise in price again this week: Mignolet, Marveaux, Suarez, O'Brien? Cheers.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Migs no, Marv no, Suarez maybe, O'Brien no

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php

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    3. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      mig no marvvuex no suarez YES o'rien depends on injury news

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    4. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Cheers all.

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  8. b3- bish bash bosh
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Any clue when aguero will be fit?

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    1. 4vets
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      None what so ever... nor will there be.

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      8 weeks at least

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    3. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Re. Aguero:
      @Ian_Ladyman_DM: #mcfc fans shouldn’t worry unduly about aguero tweet about “torn” hamstring. prognosis remains the same. Two weeks.
      @Ian_Ladyman_DM: I think translation problem is at heart of aguero tweet. City aren’t concerned, anyway #mcfc

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Torn Hamstring, 2 weeks? Don't be daft. Pulled, yeah, but torn, no chance

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        1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081213125028AA6qjvr

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        2. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          This Ladyman chap is implying that it isn't torn.

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  9. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    GW22

    Bego - Turnbull

    Demel - Davies - Mariappa - Hughes - Sagna

    Mata - Ramirez - Bale - Walcott - Marveuax

    Ba - RVP - Suarez

    GW23

    Bego - Turnbull

    Demel - Davies - Mariappa - Hughes - Sagna

    Mata - NOLAN - Bale - Walcott - Marveuax

    PODOLSKI - RVP - Suarez

    GW24 and GW25

    Downgrade Podolski, upgrade Nolan back to Michu, if he's firing.

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  10. GYM JUNKIE
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Can Ba play against Swansea??

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    1. 4vets
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Why couldn't he?

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    2. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yes.

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      1. Steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        cuptied? i don't know but presume this is why he wouldn't be able to

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  11. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    It has come down to this:

    A. Turnbull, Azpil and Mata (with Suarez)

    or

    B. Turnbull, Mata and Ba (instead of Suarez)

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      A

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    2. Kostja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      A for me, I am not on board with the Ba punt at this point.

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    3. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      A

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    4. Ings on the up
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Close but A

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    5. beric
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      A and hope Terry stays out.

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    6. 4vets
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      A all the way, CS. Sell Suarez at your peril (until Studge does something).

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Haven't had him all season actually but I think it's about time I got him.

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    7. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      B

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  12. Hatter
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Last time ill ask sorry for everyone putting up with my indecisveness
    Defoe ->>
    A). Ba
    B). Dzeko
    C). Berbatov

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    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Ba

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      1. Steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        i'm debating this. 1 game and maybe a few sub minutes for Ba, will he score more then Defoe at QPR?

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        1. Hatter
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Definitely defoe hasnt scored for ages and if Ba did play both games ... He could score big

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    2. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      BA

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      1. Hatter
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Alrite cheers guys im doing it!!! Come on ba bandwagon dont let me down

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  13. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Well, I am now ACTIVELY wildcarding 😯 ?!

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    1. Hatter
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      GOGOGOGO are you having a wild time?

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        No, I am not a fan of Wildcards - and best not mention dgws ?!

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Nooooooooooooooooo

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Yeeeeeeesssssss......!

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    3. beric
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I haven't done it since the Euro's, it's gunna feel weird

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Tonight for you Beric?

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    4. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Welcome aboard Evs 😉

      Mata (c)

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  14. Hazardous
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    azpi riise in the last hour

    22:00 187

    22:30 176

    23:00 186

    IT HIS HIGHLY UNLIKELY HE WILL RISE

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    1. Ikey Warrior
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      +1

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  15. Evans
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    BAnowners keeping or shipping ?

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I'm not an owner, but surely you keep for now?

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    2. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Keeping obviously.

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  16. Trigg ⭐️
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    DDGW fever.

    One WC being used to prepare for it, and then the other one to fix it. Madness.

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    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Hey, that's what I'm doing 😉

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      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Surely there are some CHE and ARS you would keep afterwards though? You might be pining for a WC come a big DGW in GW35 or something.

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      2. Jonah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Really Evs? can you not get together a team that is good both for the DGW and afterwards? i was thinking about using both but something like this looks good to me:

        Turnbull Scesney
        Baines Ivanovic Clyne Demel Kilgallon
        Puncheon Michu Walcott Fellaini Mata
        RVP Lambert Vaz Te

        Then sub in Cazorla for Mata before the double. This gives you good doubles coverage, AND is a decent enough team so you can keep the second wildcard for afterwards.

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        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Maybe Jonah.

          Perhaps I am being a little knee jerkey.

          I was always planning wc gw24, but the Chelsea dgw has thrown a spanner in the works as I don't own any Chelsea or Sot players.

          I may reasses after this week...

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          1. Jonah
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 7 months ago

            I would at least keep it in mind without your picks this week - i.e. don't do things like getting Vermaelen, which is going to be a pain is the arse to undo.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Insane.

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    3. Ings on the up
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      strongly considering it

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    4. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Nuts. Complete waste. Plan it well, then a small hit can tweak it back on track again.

      Bloody casuals!

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  17. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Fa Cup highlights on ITV now

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    1. beric
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Oh yeah! thanks for the heads up

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    2. Still No Eye Dia
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Cheers!

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  18. The Quiff
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Quick question: Baines or Evra (for rest of season)?

    I've had Baines since GW5, recently started to think he wasn't worth the money and had planned to switch him to Evra during a late Jan WC, but am having second thoughts now just as I'm about to activate my Jan WC today or tomorrow (reason: DDGW).

    Depending on which one I go with I'll end up with 2 different WC teams (one with Mata, one without), and if I get rid of Baines now it'll be for the season, barring a significant price fall.

    So.... any opinions, please (just on a Baines/Evra straight comparison).

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    1. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Baines.

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  19. Ikey Warrior
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    With 2 WC's remaining and currently:
    Jaask Federici
    Mertesacker Hughes B.Jones Shorey Zabaleta
    Mata Michu Nolan Noble Fellaini
    RVP Berba Suarez

    Is this my best option????
    GW22: Turnbull, Shaw, Hazard for Federici, Zabaleta, Fellaini (costs -8)
    GW23: Walcott, Cazorla for Hazard, Mata (costs -4)
    GW24: Wildcard!

    Please throw your knowledge at me. 🙂
    It would be greatly appreciated!

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  20. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Just had a beautiful image in my head.

    Imagine if Chelsea sold Torres. :')

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    1. Hatter
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I would cry

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    2. 4vets
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      .... yes, I'd have to buy bloody Ba... the useless idiot! 😉

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        I would like if this happened, from a fan and FF perspective now that we have Ba.

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      imagine Torres to United...

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    4. Trigg ⭐️
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      To Arsenal, in time for their DGW?

      4 Arsenal anyone?

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    5. beric
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe he could have a gap year and come do some voluntary work for us down at St. Andrews 😉

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Seems like it's the best for both clubs.

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    6. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      then buy falcoa as a replacement 😉

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  21. MARVELLUS
    • 17 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone else not have a clue what to do? My head hurts....
    To WC or not.....

    Begovic Foster
    Cuellar OBrien (both doubts) Gibbs Nelsen Hughes
    Sterling Puncheon Mata Walcott Michu
    RVP Suarez Defoe

    a) WC?
    b) Defoe/Cuellar OUT for Berbatov/Luiz (4 pt hit)
    c) Defoe/Sterling OUT for Berbatov/Fell (4 pt hit)
    d) Something else?

    Would appreciate some help, I need it!

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    1. shamerock robin
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yes I'm with you there. I wanted to hold on to WC until the last week, but the DGW has put a spanner in the works.

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    2. The Quiff
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Go for a) WC.

      I see you still have your anytime WC to use later.

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    3. Ikey Warrior
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      IMO, Foster/Walcott OUT for Turnbull/Hazard (4 pt hit)
      GW23, Mata/Hazard OUT for Santi/Walcott (4 pt hit)
      GW24, WILDCARD!

      Think of the 4 pt hits as 2 pt hits with potential!
      I think Hazard and Mata could fire!
      Don't know how happy you'd be to lose Walcott, then buy him back. I guess it depends on how much you paid for him.

      Please help me now 😀 (http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/01/05/the-numbers-game-festive-form-defenders/comment-page-12/#comment-4811549)
      hehe

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  22. shamerock robin
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Is Kyle Naughton guaranteed a start for Spurs next week. Long term I will be getting Assou-ekotto, but can only afford a def of 4.2 as I want to transfer in Matta and Ba for DGW. Am I being slightly arrogant to be happy to take 12 point hit as I'm now 76 ahead in mini league.

    Also, I have the identikit forward line of RVP, Berbs and Suarez, so was thinking of getting rid of Suarez for the short term and rotating for DGWs. Good idea, or will it come back and sting me? Questions, questions.

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  23. Vasty Deep
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Can i get rid of Suarez (just rose to 10.4) for Ba and then hip him back after GW23 by using my WC? Is he likely to rise in price before start of next GW? Dont understand why ppl are shipping him in for the manutd game...

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    1. shamerock robin
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I was going to do the same, but not 100% sold that Ba will out score Suarez, until the DGW appeared.

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  24. Ings on the up
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Re-post

    A) Shawcross & Walcott

    B) Wilson & Mata

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      B all day long.

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      1. Ings on the up
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        thanks CS

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    2. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      wilson injured?

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      1. Ings on the up
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        might make it clyne until he returns

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  25. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Will Ba rise by 0.2 this gw? Asked this before but lost the question.

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yes he will, hes flying up.

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Probably mate. A bit soon tonight, but he will once the DGW news circulates properly

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    3. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Cheers both.

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  26. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 17 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    For those of you who have Ba or Torres this may be of interest:
    http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2013/01/05/3650927/-

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks. I may just get Ba now...

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      1. Steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        really tho? Torres much better up front on his own

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          It means he has a better chance of playing both games.

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    2. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Talking about Ba's partnership with Cisse is possibly the worst example he could have used!

      Has Benitez actually watched Ba play before signing him?!

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      1. Ikey Warrior
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        This^^^^

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  27. Park the bus
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    anyone getting Hazard in for a 1 week punt for the DGW? I have Mata, trying to double up on Chelsea attack and need to get rid of Yaya for someone.

    also still have Tevez... tempted to keep now as not other City cover. what are the thoughts on Tevez > Ba / Defoe for a hit?

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    1. Vasty Deep
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      cant see him playing 180 mins under rafa...lamps on current form is a better punt

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  28. emperikal
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Worth getting Ba in for Benteke or Hernandez? Both have decent fixtures this week but can't help but feel like I'm going to miss out on a Ba explosion.

    If I did it would probably have to be Hernandez right? Considering I have RVP obviously.

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  29. jdogg
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Team is

    Bego bunn
    Baines Gibbs cuellar demel wisdom
    Mata Walcott silva Santi sterling
    Defoe Berba Suarez
    1.2 in the bank 2ft

    Defoe to ba and silva to hazard/bale?

    Silva to hazard and cuellar to azpiliquetta?

    Or another option?x

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  30. Paul
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    okay gn DZ....see u all on the other side... 😉

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