[sbu_large_image] Opinion
3 April 2013 1481 comments
Mark Mark
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Plenty have argued that the goalkeeper position is the most important on the football field, the custodian a vital cog in any squad. In Fantasy terms, however, the goalkeeper has gradually slipped into oblivion.

He’s become an afterthought, a position that needs to be filled rather than one that is considered a key contributor to our squads or starting XI. It’s time for the Fantasy games to address this – goalkeepers should be one of our priority positions, with significant rewards for good selection.

You only have to scan the latest Fantasy Premier League (FPL) rankings to realise the issue. Joe Hart, the City keeper, is currently the top rated stopper in the game, with a miserly 121 points – that’s some 81 points behind Robin Van Persie, the leading striker and 80 points behind the top midfielder, Gareth Bale. Perhaps more significantly, with 121 points, Hart is roughly the equivalent of Lukas Podolski up front (117 points) or Aaron Lennon in midfield (118) – both bit part Fantasy assets who many would hardly consider mainstays.

At this point, we have to give credit where it’s due and remember that the FPL is a game that attempts to reward goalkeepers – there are save points on offer, available exclusively to keepers and yet, it’s clear, that these are not enough to allow this position to bridge the gap and take on a significant level of importance. This situation is compounded by the bonus points system that leans towards attacking players and very rarely recognises goalkeepers – Asmir Begovic is the current top earner with just seven bonus points.

In the Sky Sports game, the goalkeeper situation is exacerbated by the fact that there are no save points on offer. Hart can only gain from clean sheets in this game and his total of 107 points, whilst top ranked for goalkeepers, is some 116 points behind Santi Cazorla, the leading midfielder, and a huge 135 behind Luis Suarez, the top ranked forward. Indeed, by comparison, Joe Hart has fetched the same number of points as Fernando Torres in this game and less than James McCarthy of Wigan – again, then, Hart’s importance as an asset seems severely underplayed.

Quite simply, clean sheets are not enough. They’ve been in decline in recent seasons and this term we could be heading for the worst ever season for five years. Back in 2008/09, there were 247 shutouts on show in the Premier League, an average of one clean sheet every 3.08 matches. By 2010/11 this had dropped to 191 in total, an average every 3.91 matches. While we saw a slight recovery last season, currently this term is tracking an average of a shut-out every 3.92 matches. In simple terms then, in the last five seasons, the clean sheet has declined as a Fantasy football scoring method. Have the games adjusted their rules accordingly? Empathically, I’d say they’ve stood still.

Adjusting the balance with the price list is not enough and, in fact, when you look at a stalwart keeper like Pepe Reina, back in 2008/09 when, statistically, there were more clean sheets about, you could acquire his FPL services for 6.0. He started this season at the same price, despite the fact that clean sheets are seemingly far harder to come by. Low and behold, this season Reina has 86 points to his name, in 2008/09 he scored a mammoth 169 points. The decline in points output is pretty obvious and yet, presumably to balance increases in attacking positions, Reina’s initial price has been frozen.

As mentioned, the FPL have at least attempted to compensate for keepers with save points and while this successfully narrows the gap between the heavy-hitter clean sheet getters and the budget and mid-price keepers, it still falls short in terms of bringing goalkeepers in line with the other positions.

Fantasy games now have to find the confidence to take matters further. Goalkeeper points scoring needs examining in detail with save points established as the norm, with points for clean sheets hiked for goalkeepers and perhaps even used as a multiplier or an unlock. In effect, goalkeepers should be rewarded further for clean sheets when they are seen to be an effective last line of defence. Let’s double the save points awarded when a clean sheet is won or, presuming the data gathered is correct, award a point for each save if a shut-out is achieved.

Looking at Joe Hart as an example, given that he has fewer saves to make playing in front of the City back four, he would not benefit greatly from double save points when a clean sheet is won. However, if saves were awarded as points in a clean sheet scenario, he’d be 16 points better off – taking him to 137 points in total (Hart earned just one save point in a match with a clean sheet this season). Jussi Jaaskelainen, the keeper with the most saves in the FPL game, would be 29 points better off, having kept eight clean sheets. Minus the nine save points he already gained from these matches, this would take him to 141 points. Jaaskelainen’s biggest points haul would have come against Fulham in Gameweek 3 when he made eight saves – he would therefore have amassed 14 points – two appearance points, four for the clean sheet and eight save points.

Are these totals that wrong? Shouldn’t a keeper have the opportunity to rival strikers and earn double figures without having to pull off a penalty save? Wouldn’t it be more exciting to watch your keeper fling himself to make save after save knowing that, if he can just keep his sheet clean, these would convert into points at the end of the match? In my view, this mechanic would rejuvenate keepers and make them a position that excites when watching games, rather than a player that can only lose you points as the match goes on.

These are radical changes and some serious modelling would be required to ensure balance is achieved but, looking at the obvious decline in clean sheets and the gradual decay of the goalkeeper as a position of importance, it seems obvious that such a step has to be considered. When we see squads with non-playing goalkeepers and top ranked managers settling on budget and mid-price stoppers in order to spend in attacking areas, it screams out that there is a balance issue.

Fantasy football should attempt to mirror reality in order to create a compelling experience. It’s up to the games to react and address this or go on letting the goalkeeper become a meaningless commodity when, in reality, he’s possibly the most important player on the pitch.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. heco87
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    13 years, 17 days ago

    Love it when we are getting towards Thursday and the deadline draws near(clutching at straws a bit) and hopefully a scoutcast to look forward to... oh how will I fill my summer?

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
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      Confederations Cup fantasy football?

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      1. heco87
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        Too much for me I reckon! Maybe a break is for the best..

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        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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          Dont worry there will be plenty to occupy your mind with by August eg When is the game opening and determining if someone saying it will be open at 5 o clock in the morning is lying. The fixture list,. player prices etc

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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            ^^^^This

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  2. villian-ty
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    Can anyone explain why Sturridge -> Berbatov is a good idea?

    1. Sturridge is a home v the Hammers
    2. Berbatov is away v Newcastle

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    1. Sebastian Rooks
      • 13 Years
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      dgw for berbatov

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        Not this gw though.

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        1. Sebastian Rooks
          • 13 Years
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          nope but some want to beat price rises and catch more of his form.

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          1. roscola
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            there's also timing of multiple transfers. Some people have multiple DGW targets and don't want to get them all in GW33

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    2. /
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      1. Sturridge might not play.
      2. Newcastle play Fulham on the back of an away Europa League game 3 earlier.

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    3. The Bandit
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      1. If he plays
      2. People are buying him for the dgw and he is the form player

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    4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      it's not necessarily a good idea if Sturridge starts, but it's maybe a safe move knowing that Berba will start and has a DGW, whereas Sturridge doesn't AND may be affected by rotation.

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    5. roscola
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      DGW for Fulham, Berb in form and Sturridge is not getting regular gametime

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      1. boc610
        • 14 Years
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        city have fulham at home..i dont see it as that much of an apealling DGW for Berb

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        1. roscola
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          • 14 Years
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          I think you've misread. Fulham's DGW is (avl, CHE) which isn't all that bad

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        2. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
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          *Chelsea

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    6. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
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      Saves money next week.

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    7. iain_90
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      Sturridge has caused hurt and anger to many who put faith in him.

      Berbatov is cheaper and better.

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    8. Lord Flashheart
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      • 14 Years
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      form over fixtures.

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  3. Sebastian Rooks
    • 13 Years
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    who would you rather have for the dgw
    riether and fellaini plus

    Rooney and R.Kanu or Berbatov and Walcott

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    1. odannyboys
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      Fellaini, Rooney and berba.

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      1. Sebastian Rooks
        • 13 Years
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        thats a 12 point hit for me id pick fellaini and rooney as must haves out if those to but having both berb and walcott could make up for rooney.

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    2. odannyboys
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      If not, then Berba and Walcott.

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      1. Sebastian Rooks
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        ah.. great minds

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  4. odannyboys
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    Lukaku to berba now or wait until DGW ?

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    1. Sebastian Rooks
      • 13 Years
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      always wait if you can spare the 0.2 or so.. knowledge over cash.

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  5. Jeremiah
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    Was thinking of doing Sturridge to Berba this week and Bego to DDG the next. Can you see any other changes you would make to this ?

    Bego - Rudd

    Zab - Wilson - Enrique - Harte - Demel

    Bale - Cazorla - Fellani - Sissoko - Mata

    Lambrt - Suarez - Sturridge

    Sturridge to Berba this week and Bego to DDG the next look okay ?

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  6. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 14 Years
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    It's not the most pressing concern right now but with 4 starts in a row and 2 goals, do you think Hal Robson Kanu is a good option for a 5th mid at 4.2m?

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    1. heco87
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      I'd imagine Kebe must be back before long... prefer Townsend

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      1. heco87
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        Although I suppose you'd probably be looking for a 5th mid with a DGW at some point ideally .. hard to see past Maloney if the budget allows.

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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          yeah, fair point. I just think this chap seems to be always a threat when he plays. I don't really understand why he hasn't been in the first team when they need goals.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      Only if you keep Bale.

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  7. Mr Sarcastic
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    couple of questions for you guys

    1.
    my dgw players atm are rvp, berba, santi and very frustrating j.evans
    two trannies next week, so can get fellaini + one other in without a hit.
    Is this enough to save my wc or should I use it know and worry about che, city, spurs etc players later`?

    2.
    if I wc gw33 would you prefer
    a) demel + 4 points or
    b) riether
    Gotta be a) right?

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    1. odannyboys
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      1 - depend if you are chasing in your league.

      2-demel.

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
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        thanks, chasing but not sure which gw is better to out all in
        gw33 is sooner
        gw36 I could have lot of players that other won't get because there's only 3 free transfers after gw33 so difficult to get big cover

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  8. Lawrø
    • 14 Years
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    RMT (GW33) 😎

    DDG*
    Demel*, Mertesacker*, O'Brien*
    Cazorla*, Fellaini*, Walcott*, Maloney
    Berbatov*, RVP*, Suarez

    Federici, Shaw, Cameron, Bale

    Cost is (-4) 😎

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
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      I mean 9 is a lot so it's got to be good .. I'm just not convinced that doubling the West Ham defence really counts based on their last DGW!

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    2. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
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      Demel and O'Brien will get u 2 pts between them 😀

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    3. duffnasty
      • 13 Years
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      looks okay right now, but what if suarez picks up the yellow this weekend, united win thus finishing off the league cup so lindy gets some starts, walcott not ready for both dgw games, or any other injuries? double hammers d aint pretty either.

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  9. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
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    those who want a lesson in perceived non appealing dgws .....southampton gw22 villa and chelsea away ..... looked so shocking i didnt even play the one southampton player i owned ...puncheon (played wally instead) let alone get clyne or lambo in...... end result big red arrow and a lesson learned, it is always better to be in the dgw and it not pan out that not in it at all because it doest look attractive..

    sunderlands dgw was crap but if you got sess and johnson you were laughing

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    1. JK - Cønt â­
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Yeah, looking at Lamps and Hazard/Silva in GW36

      I concur with the sentiment. I lost out heavily by not investing in the Saints or Sunderland DGWs, Learnt my lesson by the time the Arsenal and Liverpool ones came around

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    2. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Think there's a distinction to be made between attacking and defensive players here for "weaker" teams.

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
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        Suppose my point is undermined a bit by Clyne in the aforementioned DGW.. I'm hoping he is the exception 🙂

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      2. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
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        yes, southampton have been stand out attacking for a newly promoted club, been really refreshing rather than the usual 'try to weather the storm' tactic and its paid off ......in hindsight clyne, lambo would be great choices......this is where west ham become less attractive, big sam is good at grinding results out, but theyre not very attackin...

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
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      yeah I remember there was some who benched Puncheon because they couldn't bench Michu/Fellaini/Walcott etc, and it wasn't as if the fixtures were even great for them. It was all a bit too precious, having a differential can be great...and the DGWer is guaranteed 4 points either way, it was people seeing it as 4 points that might not be enough to match a heavy hitter. But Puncheon's stats were close to a heavy hitter at the time.

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      1. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
        • 14 Years
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        it was probably me, a classic case of trying to over think the problem ..... i wasnt going to bench michu as id been burnt before and wallys fixture at home to city looked somehow better than puncheons 2 away lol...... crazy in hindsight but id convinced myself at the time....

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    4. Hibbo
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      I nearly forgot all about that I went to play indoor Sessgnon my captain had done bart all came back he had scored and as a bonus the press association recredited an assist to my Cuellar. Oh what an amusing few days they were.

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  10. Deano
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    What do I do with this team given i still have my WC?

    Mignolet, Henderson
    Zabaleta, Dawson, Davies, Bertrand, Pearce
    Cazorla, Mata, Bale, Kagawa, Puncheon
    RVP, Giroud, Sturridge

    C’mon one and all, give it your best shot!

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
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      Judging by the responses youve beaten ENR in the grand final of who gives a f**k

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
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        😆

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  11. JD
    • 13 Years
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    any chance fellaini or rooney will fall by 0.1 before gw 33?

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
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      Fellaini will fall

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  12. Elniñorules
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    • 14 Years
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    So....what happens when you have a ticket for game and that game gets rescheduled?

    Refunded?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
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      Money lost. 😛

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    2. JK - Cønt â­
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      or you can get a ticket for the rescheduled game for free on the basis that you've already paid

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    3. Deano
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      Sorry mate but this question is in the grand final for who gives a fuc&!

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      1. heco87
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        Lol not exactly a great way to encourage people to look at your query above.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          This. Well said.

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        2. Deano
          • 13 Years
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          Gave it ten minutes with no response before giving up.

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      2. Elniñorules
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        Cheers for your valuable insight on the question. It's always good to have some quality and deep thoughts on here 😉

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        1. Deano
          • 13 Years
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          Pleasure, in future try to provide some input before requesting some from others.

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            Need input...need input...need input...

            http://www.entertainmentfuse.com/images/shortcircuit6.jpeg

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            1. Elniñorules
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              🙂

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          2. Elniñorules
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            Good advice cheers, in future consider spreading some of your wisdom to the person in your mirror.

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  13. roscola
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    • 14 Years
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    A bit late now (for me) but will Sidwell's suspension affect Berb's output? Will he have to drop deeper, for example?

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    1. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 13 Years
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      Don't think so.. Don't think Martin Jol is interested in losing games again 😉

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      1. roscola
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        🙂

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  14. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
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    think i may get reither for the dgw for giggles, stats look handy and if im going to have a dgw defender i want an attackin onw

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
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      Get Baines. 😉

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      1. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
        • 14 Years
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        i will

        baines, zab reither as it stands

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        1. heco87
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 17 days ago

          Strong

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  15. Eboue
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    RMGW33 team!
    *denotes dgw
    Ddg*
    mertesacker* Enrique zabaleta
    Cazorla* walcott* fellaini* sissoko
    Berbatov* rooney* benteke

    For(-4) thoughts?

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Yes it looks fine but the best laid plans can unravel over the course of GW32 🙂

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      1. Eboue
        • 13 Years
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        Fine- was hoping for excellent 😉 8)

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        1. heco87
          • 15 Years
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          Ha, I would find it hard to get excited about somebody else's team!

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          1. Eboue
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            Ah, good point though about plans unravelling!

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      2. A Defender's Nightmare
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        ^This

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        1. Eboue
          • 13 Years
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          To which point? Heco's?

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          1. A Defender's Nightmare
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 17 days ago

            Yes it looks fine but the best laid plans can unravel over the course of GW32 🙂

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            1. Eboue
              • 13 Years
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              Agreed , thanks just wasn't sure to whom this was directed!

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  16. A Defender's Nightmare
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Gotze & Reus

    1) Better player in reality
    2) Better player in fantasy games

    Discuss 🙂

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    1. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 13 Years
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      Gotze & Reus

      1) Better player in reality?
      2) Better player in fantasy games?

      Discuss 🙂

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    2. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
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      Gotze & Reus

      1) Better player in reality?
      2) Better player in fantasy games?

      Discuss 😀

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      1. A Defender's Nightmare
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        Here we go.. Again madness started.. Reply ping pong.. Please 🙂

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    3. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 13 Years
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      No one's replying 🙠Was it silly question? I really don't think so..

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
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        Care factor may be the issue. Btw I don't even know these players.

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        1. A Defender's Nightmare
          • 13 Years
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          Seriously? Fair enough TM.. Thanks for the response 🙂

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    4. CABAYE4
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      1. Reus
      2. Closer but still Reus for me.

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      1. A Defender's Nightmare
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        Thanks mate 🙂

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  17. JK - Cønt â­
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    Theo 83% to fall

    Fellaini 75%

    Come on lads, not much more needed.

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    1. Waldaz
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      Was expecting more falls for Fellaini, bit disappointing.

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      1. wagwan
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        don't reckon another fall might happen before the double?

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        1. heco87
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          Should fall on Friday, yeah

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      But I don't have them ... 😉

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  18. Crouch Potato!
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    Steve Sidwell has claim for wrongful dismissal rejected, ssn.

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    1. heco87
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      Harsh red

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        Will have to disagree with you on this, Sidwell certainly meant it as an honest challenge, however by the laws of the game, and the potential danger of the challenge, I reckon the ref made a correct decision.

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        1. heco87
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          Not two footed high or dangerous, it's a foul and yellow in my book. Late yes, dangerous, no.

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          1. Crouch Potato!
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            Very late, from what I remember he went in with both feet and studs showing.

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            1. heco87
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              Never a 2-footed challenge that

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    2. King Nil Miss ✩
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      Does this mean a more weak side from fulham?

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        I reckon so big time, a pretty important player for them in that position.

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        1. King Nil Miss ✩
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          My thoughts too, Berba doesn't look so good now...

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  19. pit creature
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Has there been anymore injury news about Rafael?

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    1. duffnasty
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      he had this same injury gw17 and he was out 4 weeks, i expect the same this time so i'm dropping him for this weekend, just haven't decided who i want for a 1 week punt before my gw33 wildcard is played.

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  20. Damo.
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    What an absolutely fantastic article Mark. Love these.

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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      you love me more?

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      1. Damo.
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        No.

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
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      +1 Very interesting read. Say what you want but these articles but they definitely encourage a lot of decent FPL discussion.

      People seemed to take exception to the idea that goalkeepers should be able to score similar or more points to "big hitters" being as cheap as they are. It's a valid point but a simple tweak to the pricing sorts that out IMO.

      Personally I agree with Mark. The game is unbalanced and therefore predictable now. I want a game where the best players in each position can score similar points and are therefore similarly priced. The game would be vastly improved if there was the added dilemma of what positions we should invest most funds and having GKs and Defenders as viable captaincy options.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        AGREE!!! 😀

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        1. JK - Cønt â­
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 17 days ago

          +42 😀

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      2. Damo.
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        Totally agree man. The game is very predictable now and kinda boring. I know people will say that's because I'm doing shit but even at the top there doesn't seem to be much going on and I can't remember one time this season where I felt that I was really enjoying the game rather than just going through the motions.

        The target audience has evolved into a large group who play it seriously. This wasn't as obvious before this season so it didn't need much tweeking but with so many players well up on the game and the amount off advice available out there now it has to change to reflect this otherwise it's just gonna be the same next season.

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  21. accountforstuff
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    What are people's thoughts on Di Canio? Worth getting in some Sunderland attacking players?

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Maybes in a few weeks time but even then I think I'll only be looking at teams with DGWs...

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      No.

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    3. King Nil Miss ✩
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Nobody has transfers for that!

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    4. Evans
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      He's mad as in the Roy Keane type way

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    5. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Wickham or McClean could be worth having the in the back your head but I think with their fixtures being grim and DGWs ahoy there may not be time.

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    6. Frazek
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Only after GW 38. 🙂

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  22. theotherguy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    What to do with Sturridge?

    Forward line of Sturridge/Lambert/Berba. 7m in bank, 1 FT. I'm thinking:
    (a) hold and take the risk he does not play (this bothers me as Walcott may also not play)
    (b) Sturridge > Suarez and captain him.
    (c) Sturridge > Rooney ready for the DGW.

    I'm put off by SAF's comments on forward rotation, and his form, so reluctant to bring in RVP.

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Tricky.. really hard decision that one. Any of those options could easily pay off or massively backfire.

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    2. Zimppa
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      As Heco87 said, this is a really tricky decision. Suarez is probably the most likely to get gametime, so I would go for him.

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    3. Adnan Shah
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      I am keeping him atleast for this week. Will transfer out for maybe Rooney after that.

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    4. LOCO ABREU
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      sturridge>suarez and next week lambo to rooney if you can?

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    5. Evans
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      B

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  23. Zimppa
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    What should I do after GW 32?

    A) Mata, Sissoko --> Cazorla, Fellaini (-4p)
    B) Mata, Enrique --> Cazorla, Baines (-4p)
    C) Mata --> Cazorla

    My current team for GW 32 http://imgur.com/y2rfRhv

    Any input welcome, cheers!

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      I don't like the Mata out transfer one bit. If forced, i'd go B

      Captain Hindsight asking for some insight? Surely a first 😉

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      1. Zimppa
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        I'm so tempted by the Arsenal DGW 🙂

        Perhaps I should only do the Enrique to Baines transfer then?

        Cheers for the input!

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  24. A Defender's Nightmare
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Is it madness to keep Messi on bench after his 5 point haul & replace him by Reus for tonight in FCL?

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  25. Andrew
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Do we think Wenger will go with Sagna or Jenkinson or rotate between the two?

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    1. Adnan Shah
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      It seems that Sagna is his favorite.

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    2. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Looks like Sagna but he is by no means nailed on.

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  26. Andrew
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Gervinho worth a punt over the DGW?

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Not if he is a 4 point hit to get in and a 4 point hit to get out! Too much risk with Theo presumably back by then, for me.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Depends if Walcott is back.

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      1. Andrew
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        True, if so I think I'll go Theo Caz and Giroud

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  27. Evans
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Going off Mark's comments about mirroring a real game.

    when I first started i did so by picking what I thought was a well balanced team. However, I quickly realised that the best way to achieve a good rank is to have a top heavy team. By this i mean having one goalkeeper and 10 RVP ( or more recently 10 Bale's)

    Until this game rewards goalkeepers and players that don't get fully recognised for their contributions : Carrick, Dembele etc..... then it wont be fully rewarding

    Ulimately,the biggest Strength of FPL is also its biggest Weakness. It is such an easy game to play in terms of strategy / understanding and helps explains why it can attract 2million plus users. How much skill is there in picking RVP ? Ok , you can argue his higher cost makes it fairer , but all you do is offset this via compensating through your defence and goalkeeper

    My side could be considered template and where's the fun in that ? However it's caused by how the game is setup.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Player values increasing would be better & stop the template teams. You couldn't have all the stars & a budget defence until later in the season perhaps.

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      1. Evans
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        Not a bad idea TM you should be rewarded for spotting talent I.e. Michu etc early on

        In other news I see I'm through to round 3 of the fpl open !

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    2. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      I think we often overlook the fact that we make up less than 1% of the teams on FPL. Yeah, your team might be template FFS but that doesn't mean it's template FPL.

      Agree with the point though that a wider range of options to realistically consider would be welcomed and lead to a more varied game, particularly on here.

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      1. The3rdTurd
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        But I bet the FFS teams are generally clustered towards the top of the FPL overall rankings. So in order to succeed you need to follow the template.

        It's also interesting that the definition of 'casual' seems to be someone who selects players from outside the pool of regulars. A more varied game would see a wider pool of players from which it would be worth selecting from, so you might see more casuals at top of the rankings. Imagine the anguish from the regulars on here were that to happen!

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        1. Evans
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 17 days ago

          For those teams at the top of FPL it becomes template and differentials as how do you get ahead. The problem with these players is that they're are generally two steps ahead of everyone else ( except this week when I also transferred in berbatov)

          Anything that livens up FFS and the regulars is welcomed by me !

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    3. Captain Robert Hatch
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      I've only played it for 5 weeks, but I like the MLS scoring system that rewards attacking and defensive play.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        Players doing nothing and getting double figures like Zusi will make FPL stats based big time. Agree with the defenders section though.

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  28. /
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Is there gonna be anyone who actively plays FPL that won't have Cazorla, Fellaini and Walcott in GW33?

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    1. faux_C
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      I'm wavering on Fellaini, and Walcott totally depends on fitness.

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      no and some dead teams will have them also.

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    3. Evans
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Are you mad ? ..... Hang on your a towel

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    4. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Pienaar ftw.

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    5. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Might not bother with Fellaini.

      Would have to get rid of Bale, I'll have to plan and see if I can afford to get him straight back in.

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      1. Adnan Shah
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        Getting Bale back won't be too much of a problem, atleast not for me as i will be removing Santi after Arsenal double. I think Fellaini is a great option for double.

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        1. CABAYE4
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 17 days ago

          That's true actually, would probs get rid of Caz/Walcott rather than Fellaini, making Bale affordable despite the value loss.

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    6. Captain Robert Hatch
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      may be without Caz, don't want to be

      RVP/Suarez to Berba is my only way to squeak him in

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  29. Andrew
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    Giroud or Berbatov for DGW33

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Berbatov I reckon

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    2. /
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      I have Berba. But if I had neither and I could only have 1, I'd go for Giroud.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 17 days ago

        +1

        Two great games in a team that scores way more goals

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        1. Adnan Shah
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 17 days ago

          Berba is better option in my opinion. Villa do concede a few and Chelsea are always dodgy in defense plus Berba is the main man for Fulham. Giroud is very inconsistent, often misses easy chances and Arsenal have strong midfielders to score goals.

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  30. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 17 days ago

    WC being played in GW33

    Is Bale > Silva worth doing for one or two weeks before getting Bale back in?

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    1. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 17 days ago

      Do you mean in the WC? Or now?

      Defs wouldn't do it now, I'd consider getting him out in your WC but not for Silva, but a DGWer.

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