[sbu_large_image] Pre-Season
25 July 2013 2061 comments
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We’ve another batch of friendlies to dissect for you today, with eight Premier League sides in action over the past 24 hours. Jan Vertonghen anxiously awaits an ankle scan after an awkward fall in Tottenham’s loss to Sunderland, Steven Gerrard helps Liverpool to a third straight win, Edin Dzeko gives Manuel Pellegrini his first win as City boss, Andreas Cornelius is off the mark for Cardiff, while Stoke and Norwich fall to defeat in the early hours of this morning.

Sunderland 3 Tottenham 1
A pre-match downpour not only delayed yesterday’s game but resulted in a slightly shortened match consisting of two 40-minute halves. Paolo Di Canio fielded Vito Mannone in goal and partnered John O’Shea with Wes Brown at centre-half, while new boys Cabral and Emanuel Giaccherini were named in midfield, with Stephane Sessegnon tucked in behind lone forward Jozy Altidore. Altidore and Cabral combined for the Black Cats’ first, with the US international teeing up the latter to fire home before another new boy, David Moberg Karlsson, climbed off the bench to play a pivotal part in the victory. The Swede’s corner was headed home by Brown just after the hour mark and he followed that up with a goal of his own moments prior to the final whistle. New boy Mannone’s heroics between the sticks were hailed by the club’s official website – perhaps a sign he’s edged ahead of Kieran Westwood in the role for the number one jersey.

After the match, Di Canio reserved special praise for Brown and, after revealing the player had rejected the chance to end his contract at the club, went on to suggest he could now be a key asset to the club over the season ahead:

“Wes was a very good player already but he didn’t have a very good season last year. This year he decided to push harder because he is a very good professional. Thanks to him and thanks to my staff he has the chance to come back. He is an important footballer for me and I am very glad to have him back in the squad. He still has to improve because it is only the first friendly game but with his experience he can handle the situation and he can have a big part in my squad, I hope.”

Andre Villas-Boas rolled out a 4-3-3 formation, with Clint Dempsey and Aaron Lennon flanking Emanuel Adebayor up top. The likes of Heurelho Gomes, Tom Huddlestone, Danny Rose, Scott Parker and Gylfi Sigurdsson were also named in the first XI as the Tottenham boss handed plenty of his fringe players game time. Spurs took the lead after Sigurdsson slotted home courtesy of a Kyle Walker assist but failed to hold their advantage in the rain-soaked conditions. Gareth Bale missed out once again, while more worryingly for the north London club, Jan Vertonghen was forced off after falling awkwardly on his ankle. After the game, the Spurs boss gave an update on the pair’s conditions:

“We’re trying to get Gareth involved in training tomorrow . Not with the team, unfortunately, but on his own. It depends. If we see some evolution on his injury we might give it a try but if not then he will probably be on the bench (against South China)….It seems like he (Vertonghen) twisted his ankle, it could be sprained ankle ligaments. Hopefully there is not too much damage as he has a good range of movement still, but it is swollen a bit. We hope it is nothing very serious, the MRI scan is positive and he’ll be back for the start of the season.”

Melbourne Victory 0 Liverpool 2
Brendan Rodgers gave some of his squad players a chance to impress as the Reds made it three wins and three clean sheets from three pre-season matches so far. With Kolo Toure and Philippe Coutinho missing out with a tight calf and knock respectively, the likes of Martin Skrtel and Fabio Borini were named in the starting XI alongside Brad Jones, Andre Wisdom, Raheem Sterling and Jordan Ibe. A familiar face gave the visitors the lead, though, as Steven Gerrard opened the scoring courtesy of a Joe Allen assist, before Luis Suarez teed up fellow substitute Iago Aspas to net his second goal in three appearances just before the final whistle.

After the game, most of the talk centred around Arsenal’s £40m bid for the Uruguayan, though Rodgers remained adamant his star forward will remain on Merseyside:

“There’s nothing new to report. He’s very much a Liverpool player and over the course of the next couple of weeks we’ve got to get him up to speed. The support he has received from the supporters and the people of the city of Liverpool has been unrivalled. In this period of time he’s missed a lot of games for the club through various reasons. The people have stood by him, like a son and really looked after him. Whatever happens in the coming weeks that will be in his mind because it’s something you can never forget.”

Schalke 2 Southampton 0
Mauricio Pochettino’s side fell to their first pre-season loss yesterday afternoon. According to the club’s official website, Rickie Lambert and Jay Rodriguez were partnered together in a front two, with Jason Puncheon and Lloyd Isgrove on the flanks. Kelvin Davis got the nod in goal, while elsewhere in defence, Calum Chambers started at right-back for the second match in a row. Pochettino made nine changes in the second-half but despite the alterations, the Saints failed to find a way back into the match. Guly de Prado – scorer of a hat-trick in the previous game – missed out with a thigh complaint, while Gaston Ramirez and Maya Yoshida were omitted; both players continue to build up their fitness after an extended break due to their involvement in the recent Confederations Cup.

South China 0 Man City 1
Manuel Pellegrini registered his first victory as City boss yesterday afternoon. Edin Dzeko headed the winner, with James Milner providing the assist in a match that saw the visitors start in a 4-2-3-1 formation, with Yaya Toure handed the role in “the hole” behind Dzeko due to a number of absences. While the likes of Sergio Aguero, David Silva, Jesus Navas and Stevan Jovetic were unavailable (though “two or three” could return at the weekend, according to Pellegrini), it was perhaps telling that the Chilean didn’t start with Dzeko and Alvaro Negredo together, instead introducing the latter from the bench just before the hour mark.

After the match, though, Pellegrini’s thoughts on his quartet of forwards were probably the last thing Fantasy managers wanted to hear. The Chilean was asked if he felt his side had the strongest forward line in the Premier League and his response suggested rotation could be very much on the cards:

“I think so, yes, very strong. That’s correct. I think we have very good strikers with Dzeko as well. They can play together or we can play one of them with Jovetic or Agüero. We have four very good strikers and that’s very necessary if we want to play in the Premier League and Champions League as a competitive team.”

Forest Green Rovers 3 Cardiff 4
The Bluebirds picked up a narrow win in their first pre-season match of the summer. Malky Mackay started with two up front, with Andreas Cornelius partnered by Nicky Maynard, and both forwards were amongst the goals early on. Cornelius marked his debut by heading home a Kevin McNaughton cross before Kim Bo-Kyung teed up Maynard to steer in the second. Mackay then replaced his entire starting XI at the break and watched on as Peter Whittingham slotted home a spot-kick after Joe Mason was brought down in the box, before fellow sub Craig Noone added the fourth from long distance.

Portland Timbers 1 Norwich 0
The Canaries registered their second consecutive 1-0 loss as their US tour came to an end earlier this morning. Chris Hughton made seven changes from the side that lost to San Jose Earthquakes at the weekend, though retained his usual 4-4-1-1 formation, with Wes Hoolahan selected in “the hole” behind Ricky Van Wolfswinkel. Intriguingly, new boy Nathan Redmond was again named in the first XI and has now started all three of Norwich’s pre-season games. At the back, Hughton’s rolled out a somewhat experimental side; Russell Martin was the only regular name involved from the first whistle, with Elliot Bennett, Ryan Bennett and Steven Whittaker making up the rest of the defence.

Houston Dinamo 2 Stoke 0
Mark Hughes tasted defeat in his first match in charge of the Potters. The new Stoke boss fielded a 4-4-1-1 formation, with Geoff Cameron and Erik Pieters at full-back, while Charlie Adam was installed in the centre of midfield alongside Steven Nzonzi. Cameron Jerome tucked in behind Peter Crouch up front, with Jon Walters shifted to the flank. As expected, Hughes made several changes as the match progressed and took plenty positives from the run-out as he looks to implement a more attacking brand of football at the Britannia:

“It would have been nice to have picked up a win but the fundamentals are building up the levels of fitness and working on the things that we have been doing in training on a daily basis. I think the lads did well in many areas tonight, despite the result. They started to play the ball out from the back and I think we controlled the play for long periods….It was important to get all of the lads out there and see what they are capable of. We used a few of them in different positions to try and gauge an idea of where we feel they will be best utilised this season.”

In Other News
Ahead of Chelsea’s friendly against Indonesia All Stars later today, Jose Mourinho has handed Fantasy managers a heads-up over Frank Lampard’s game time in the season ahead. Previously one of Mourinho’s “Untouchables”, Lampard missed just six of 120 Premier League games during the Portuguese manager’s first stint in charge and arrives on the back of netting 15 times in 2012/13 but, in light of yesterday’s comments, it seems Mourinho is keen to protect his midfielder and be a little more selective when it comes to handing him starts:

“Before, we didn’t analyse. Before, it was, ‘Every match, he plays’. Sometimes I wanted to give him a rest in a Carling Cup match and he said, ‘If you give me a rest the next match I will not be the same, because I have to play every three days’. At this moment, though, we have to analyse the fixtures, to analyse the matches, to analyse the week we have and make some choices. While I believe he is the same player, the difference is at 35 he needs time to recover from match to match. It is not the same for a man of 25 as a man of 35. We have to be gentle with him. He can’t play 60 matches like he did before, but the quality of the player and what he represents for the way I like to play football is exactly the same. The role doesn’t have to change. What has to change is the way we analyse competition.”

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  1. slicks1980
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    hi all

    please rmt
    still a work in progress

    noruc , vorm
    par, turner (nor) , garrido(nor) , clyne , turner(car)
    bale , hazard , coutniho , carrick , michu
    negreda , anelka , giroud

    i know my def is weak ... goin for a more attackin side ......

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    1. jmol
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      8 out 10

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      1. CostaCoffee
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        7/10

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      2. jambo17
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Get rid of Carrick, Swansea have got difficult fixtures at first and look at the hot topic on WBA before making your mind up about Anelka. Negredo and Garrido both have question marks about game time as well.

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    2. Rail Madrid 1-0 Busalona
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Downgrade vorm as fixtures are awful atm, use 0.5 to upgrade garrido, take michu out for silva and negredo down to sturridge, then use that 0.5 to do carrick> snodgrass

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Will you ever play Carrick?

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    4. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Carrick is an awful pick, I don't think anelka is nailed on.

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      1. slicks1980
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        thanks guys ... will look into it .... response was great 🙂

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    5. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe Mirallas / Thomas / Bony / 0.5 spare instead of Carrick / Michu / Anelka?

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  2. CostaCoffee
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mignolet (Boruc)
    Mertesacker, Luiz, Collins (Coleman, Shaw)
    Navas, Hazard (C), Cazorla, Coutinho (Yacob)
    Berbatov, Giroud, Anelka

    Cheers

    Sorry for posting again but got stuck at the bottom of the last page

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    1. jmol
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      no bale 7.5 out of 10

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      1. CostaCoffee
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        He may be off to Madrid

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  3. Left Peg
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Which of your leagues are you most competitive over? Is it your work colleagues, your best mates or perhaps even your family? Who's your fiercest rival?

    Don't pretend you don't get competitive over FF either 😉

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Last season it was my work league because it was money. I won that and now they won't let me back in.

      Granted I don't work there anymore but that's besides the point.

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      1. Left Peg
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I really enjoyed my work league. So much office banter going on! Unfortunately, I took my eye off the ball and ended up finishing poorly. Still, it was a nice feeling beating some of my more irritating colleagues.

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      2. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        "You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin him only once..."

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    2. Ronny Hotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      My mates league. This will be our fourth season, I've finished second twice and fourth or third (can't remember) once, need to get a win under my belt, perpetual runner up isn't a label I'm enjoying!

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    3. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Family by miles, I pick my team with one eye on the Sky games with my sons...Can't beat watching Villa vs Fulham with Benteke vs Berbs on show for our respective FPL teams (why else would anybody watch that)....

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  4. ★٩(-̮̮̃-̃)۶
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    what u think about cornelicious from cardiff?

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Cornelius*

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      1. ★٩(-̮̮̃-̃)۶
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        yea

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  5. Just A Hat
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I hope Nani hits form again, remember when he was essential a few seasons back?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Either him or Young. Either of them could make a mockery of their prices tags.

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      1. Just A Hat
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah I was looking back at Youngs stats when he first joined United, he had an unbelievable run of assists/goals then got injured and came back and scored another 5 goals from February onwards.

        Last season was a write off for him but he if he comes back to full fitness he would be a well good bargain

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    2. FantaCity
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I hope he doesn't, as I'd prefer to see Zaha get some proper game time

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  6. MiguelAngel
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Hello everyone, first post of the new season and as always, I'm very grateful of any opinions. Been working hard on these squads but which one do you like best, any changes, etc?

    A)
    Cech, (+ bench fodder)
    Zaba, Nastasic, Collins Shaw, Baker
    Bale, Silva, Snodgrass, Hazard, Thomas
    Sturridge, Giroud, Rodriguez

    B)
    Boruc (+bench fodder)
    Zaba, Mertesacker, Collins, Shaw, Baker
    Bale, Silva, Snodgrass, Hazard, Thomas
    Aguero, Giroud, Rodriguez

    C)
    Boruc, +1 bench fodder
    Shaw, Turner, Collins, Parr, Baker
    Bale, Silva, Snoddy, Haz, Coutinho
    Aguero, Giroud, (+5mill forward)

    D)
    Boruc, +1 bench fodder
    Shaw, Turner, Collins, Parr, Baker
    Bale, Silva, Snodgrass, Hazard, Thomas
    Van Persie, Giroud, Rodriguez

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    1. Frank Spankhard
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      D

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      1. MiguelAngel
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks man. Shaw or Clyne?

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        1. Frank Spankhard
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          clyne for me, but it's completely 50/50

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    2. Tim2012
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Probably go with Option E

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    3. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      How about A/B

      Cech, (+ bench fodder)
      Zaba, Mertesacker, Collins, Shaw, Baker
      Bale, Silva, Snodgrass, Hazard, Thomas
      Sturridge, Giroud, Rodriguez

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      1. MiguelAngel
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Like it a lot.
        Throw me a RMT please....

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    4. jmol
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A. more all round

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      1. MiguelAngel
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah, that was my first attempt, gut instincts before thinking maybe too much!

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    5. manehi
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      D for me, mostly because of RVP

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      1. MiguelAngel
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Yes, D is cheeky but mainly due to the RVP, Bale combo. Defence is pretty weak though

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        1. manehi
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          My take on RVP + Bale is below, with slightly more in defence.

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  7. MiguelAngel
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Ha, E! Pray tell, whom is in E?

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    1. Tim2012
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      E is a mystery

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      1. MiguelAngel
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Get your balls out then and tell me your squad E

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        1. Tim2012
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Then it wouldn't be a mystery would it

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  8. manehi
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Would you rate Lukaku at 85%+ to start GW1?

    If so, I'm liking this:

    Mignolet - 4.0

    Coleman - Collins - Turner - Clyne - 4.0

    Bale - Silva - Snodgrass - Jarvis - 4.5

    RVP - Giroud - Lukaku

    Thoughts appreciated.

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    1. Tim2012
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No Liverpool attackers - Sturridge or Coutinho could cost you

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      1. Just A Hat
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I think it will be fine, can you really trust Liverpool to get goals when Suarez isn't about?

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        1. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          They scored 9 goals in their last 4 PL games without him

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          1. Just A Hat
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            That is a very small sample of games, I know they can still get goals but they would be far better with Suarez there

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            1. roscola
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              • 14 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              You can cling to your assertion if you like but I'd say they've adequately proved that they can score without him.

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              1. Just A Hat
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 7 months ago

                I'm going with 3 Liverpool defenders so if they do start scoring the goals I'm hoping that Johnson and Enrique get involved 😉

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                1. roscola
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                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 7 months ago

                  I think that'll serve you well on clean sheets alone. Assists and goals would be pure gravy 🙂

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        2. Tim2012
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          They seem to get enough when he was banned for the last 4 games.....

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      2. manehi
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers, but how to fit them in? OK, Lukaku would probably be my first cut out of my high priced attackers, leaving me 1m short of Sturridge. Just not sure where to find that.

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        1. Tim2012
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          As a Liverpool fan Aspas is a great shout, he will play and is a real bargain

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          1. manehi
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            If I was more sure he'd get playing time I'd definitely have him. Cheers.

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            1. Frank Spankhard
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              aspas nailed on whilst suarez suspended.

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              1. Tim2012
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 7 months ago

                I really think he could impress this year

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  9. hazza44
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on my team, pretty happy.

    Mignolet (Davis)
    Mertesacker, Turner, Collins (Clyne, Baker)
    Bale, Silva, Snodgrass, Nolan (Colback)
    RVP, Sturridge, Anelka

    thanks guys

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    1. Tim2012
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Similar mine so ...... 10/10

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      1. hazza44
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        haha yehhhhh

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    2. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      9.5/10 very good team i might even steal it off you 😉

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      1. hazza44
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        haha go for it!

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    3. Wheato182
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Nice team, only concern is lack of Chelsea......

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      1. Wheato182
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        and Arsenal attack....

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    4. MiguelAngel
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Like it a lot, lack of Arsenal in front 8 though

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  10. Wheato182
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Anybody else going without RVP and Bale? reading Triggerlips advice earlier about holding back and looking after the transfer funds it actually seems to make sense (for now)

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    1. jmol
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      im goin wit both of dem

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    2. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Me

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    3. Just A Hat
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think you need The Bale at least, where is Triggerlips post?

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      1. Just A Hat
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Imagine how angry you are gonna be every gameweek when Bale does one of his silly runs and blasts a screamer into the top corner and 50% of the people playing have him captain? And you are stuck with a random captain who only got an assist

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        1. Wheato182
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I have bad memories from last season when Bale didn't do a lot until December time....perhaps you're right though might opt for him over RVP.

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    4. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Chelsea Blank GW and Man city uncertainty and suarez ban has led to have a lot of cash. Cant see where else to spend it if not bale and rvp atm

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        *has led me

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        1. Wheato182
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          True, didn't consider the lack of alternatives. City aren't exactly firing on all cylinders at the moment.

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    5. theBoose
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      i might be a biased spurs fan but im just going with bale, rvp is too much to warrant getting him in.

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    6. Big Fudge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Just Bale, RVP is just too much and you need someone of his price to basically goal or assist EVERY week or else he isn't worth it. I reckon Bale will score more than RVP this season. Calling it.

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      1. Red5
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        RVP did that last year though. I don't have his game scores to hand, but iirc it was incredibly rare for him to come out of a match with less than 5 points last season.

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    7. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Nah it ain't gonna work. The only reason you wouldn't have them is to free up finds for elsewhere and you'll only ever be scrambling to get them in when they inevitably start raking in points.

      What I think the majority forget is that your not just buying two expensive players your buying to essential captain picks. When RVP plays a lower league team who will you captain? The same prs for bale. Those with will for the vast majority of the season captain them also.

      Without them you have to be an absolute genius to pick the right captain week in week out. Of cause what will happen is that they slip into mid table mediocrity because of bad captain choices.

      IMHO you can't do without them both. It's like having two rvps or two bales and in that contexts they are value.

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      1. Wheato182
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        To be honest, if there's anybody out of them 2 i'm more leaning towards its RVP who will be on all set pieces and be furthest up the field - prob why he's 2 million more. Not convinced Bale will outscore him this season like some people are saying.

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        1. Red5
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I'm not either. I think RVP had the kind of season you would expect him to have playing there for Utd. I think Bale had an exceptional -almost Hollywood script- season, which I'm not sure will be so easy to replicate.

          The only question mark over RVP for me is whether Utd as a whole start out a bit cagey under Moyes. They have a tricky first few games.

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    8. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yes, as things stand. My current team is:

      Mignolet (Lewis)

      Koscielny M.Turner Collins (Clyne) (Parr)

      Nolan Walcott Coutinho Silva (Thomas)

      Giroud Aguero Rodriguez

      3m in bank.

      All have decent fixtures over the first ~6 games (the team isn't designed for the whole season, because we learn way too much in the first few weeks to bother with that) and should be pretty nailed on. 3m in the bank so if one has a great first week and everybody kneejerks on to them, I can pick up either before the price spirals, without having to take my team apart to fund it.

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      1. Wheato182
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        thats exactly what im thinking! may opt for this myself

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  11. CostaCoffee
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mignolet (Boruc)
    Mertesacker, Luiz, Collins (Coleman, Shaw)
    Navas, Hazard (C), Cazorla, Coutinho (Yacob)
    Berbatov, Giroud, Anelka

    Judging by my team what age do you think i am ???

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      *grabs popcorn

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    2. Left Peg
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Considering you're asking us to guess your age, one would assume you're quite young. Secondly, the use of three question marks is clearly excessive.

      Let's go for 16.

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      1. CostaCoffee
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Haha wrong im 11

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        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          You show more maturity than several on here - good luck this year!

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    3. The Bearded One
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'll go for 11.

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    4. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'd say 11.

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  12. Magic Hamster
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I've Budgeted 10.0m for keepers and i've currently got Mignolet and Boruc, but having read topics and comments about putting in a non playing keeper and just using Mignolet has got me rethinking this, or at least considering my options...

    These are the options i'm thinking about:

    Mignolet+Boruc
    Mignolet+4.0m (0.5 to spend elsewhere, won't really improve my team significantly I don't think)
    or as i'm beginning to lean towards:
    Dea Gea+4.0m, Dea Gea should start every game, and keep more clean sheets than Mignolet (I would think). But is the non playing goalkeeper too much of a risk?

    Any goalkeeper advice would be appreciated 🙂

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    1. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I have Miggy and Boruc

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    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Do not get De Gea. First 5 fixtures:
      Swansea
      CHELSEA
      Liverpool
      CRYSTAL P
      Man City

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      1. Magic Hamster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        yeh, maybe the rookie mistake of not looking at his fixtures and just saw DDG for 6.0m and though shiny shiny...might consider him GW6 and beyond...depending on how things are looking.

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    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Migs and Boruc for me.. though i dint realise they dont rotate past GW 6 till today 🙁

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    4. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I don't think it's a risk. It's unusual for a keeper to drop out last min, so if there's a Ming scare, you'll simply have to transfer. But you can give yourself best chance of playing £4m GK, my punt is CAR Joe Lewis, a Eng U21 been hotly tipped in past (rumours 'Arry wanted him at Spurs a while back). Probably won't out Marshall early door, but a few goals go in and who knows.

      As for DDG, a very decent option but not from start. Ming's fixs far moer likely to give you CS, so go with that early and mull DDG transfer 5-6 GWs in, that's my tip.

      By the way, my first choice GK at mo is Chesney, v.tempted to double Arse with Merte, they tend to start seasons pretty solidly.

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      1. Reck0
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks for the Lewis tip, will give him a go with Ming.

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      2. Magic Hamster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers, think i'll just stick with Ming and Boruc...I foolishly didn't look at fixtures before i thought about DDG....will consider him later down the line, he could be good value.

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    5. Rui
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Gone for Migs + 4.0m myself. Cheap rotation never really worked for me last season so I'm willing take the risk with a non-playing keeper this time round. Mignolet is terrific value for money given his opening fixtures. A switch to de Gea is also doable down the line once the fixtures ease off for Utd.

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    6. CoolBeans
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Ive gone for Jaaskelainen and Boruc. I'll probably play Jaask every week unless he plays against one of the big teams or against a team whos on a run of form.

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  13. jmol
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    ricky van wolfswinkel nd lambert
    or
    sturridge nd anelka

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    1. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      B

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  14. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Have we randomly gotten bored of mirallas already? Not on a single(of the many) RMT's on this page. Funny thing is nothing has changed since the prices came out :confused:

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Good for those of us that have him.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        just saying it's funny how things change on here for no apparent reason 🙂 .. guess we just got bored of typin the same name in our RMT's over and over again(me included). Made a couple of drafts without him and now i've gone back to him for fear of missing out on a bandwagon

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        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah too much tinkering never helps imo 🙂 . Been settled on my team for a couple days now though.

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      2. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        ^ This.

        Shhh

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    2. manehi
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I've had him in a couple of drafts but for me he's at an awkward price where I'm always tempted to get in Nolan or Snodgrass instead and move the cash difference elsewhere .

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    3. Spencer
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Still in my team.

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    4. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      There is definitely a phenomenon of 'template drift' at work during the long breaks. Players come in and out of favour en masse with nary a reason to be found.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        worryingly true

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      2. SW6
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        So true, probably in a week only a few people with have JRod. There'll be a new ~6.0m forward to own.

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        1. Pinatta
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Anelka! 😉

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  15. Rui
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    RMT.

    Mignolet (Lewis)
    Merte Zabaleta Collins (Chester, Parr)
    Bale Hazard Coutinho Snoddy (Thomas)
    Aguero Giroud Anelka

    Coutinho & Aguero --> Silva & Sturridge will free up 1.5m, but I quite fancy Aguero as (c) material. Thoughts?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Strong team.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think it's 'andsome Rui. My pref is for Turner (CAR), like their home CS chances over season due to feisty crowds. I'm also tempted by Kun, but we'll have to wait 'n' see on his start chances and (c) material.

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    3. Andrew
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Nice team

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    4. Rui
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks for the Turner tip Frazek. I will see about Kun nearer the season kick off.

      Ta lads!

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        De nada.

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      2. Ghost Ship
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Cardiff just conceded 3 goals to "Forest Green Rovers". I know its pre season but that doesn't give me much confidence.

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Wonderful.... 😯

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  16. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any thoughts on Graham / Thomas rotation? Is there better for 10m?

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    1. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Hazard

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      1. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I don't think you understood the question...

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          🙂

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Anelka perhaps.

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    3. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A 10m rotation in midfield and attack rarely works out. I'd look to save money in defence and upgrade to 11m or even 12m....gives you far more options.

      Graham and Thomas are both terrible picks...that means you are starting the game knowing that you will be playing at least one bad player every week. That seems a little illogical. Having one bad player in the front 8 is ok, two is not good.

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  17. Andrew
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    RMT Guys out of 10

    Foster Boruc
    Coleman M.Turner Parr Chester Collins
    Bale Hazard Walcott Snodgrass J.Thomas
    RVP Kone Anelka

    Kone could change to J Rod

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    1. Rui
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      8/10.

      Defense is a tad poor but that's a given since you've got RVP and Bale. Lack of City could bite you but I guess it's justifiable to wait and see how they line up.

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  18. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    What price were you expecting/would you price the following attackers?
    Walcott
    Snodgrass
    Berbatov

    i'll go first
    10.5, 7, 8.5

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  19. roscola
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Do we have any good reasons to back Lukaku? If I were Mourinho I'd use him ahead of Ba and Torres in a heartbeat but sadly, I'm not that special.

    My draft right now has few real punts so I could justify it. Or maybe Bony for a mega-punt at the same price-point?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      If bony had the fixtures to back him up i'd say go for it.. as it stand play safe with Berbs/Giroud etc and jump on lukaku/bony at a later point

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      If Chelsea don't sign a striker then I would expect Lukaku to be in a huge number of teams, and rightly so. But they will, poss Roon-monkey, which will make owning Lukaku debate redundant.

      That's my tu'penny worth anyway. 🙂

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    3. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yep, I've got Lukaku in my team as my only real risk at the moment. He could tear it up against Hull. Berba is a nice exit route from him GW2/GW3 as well.

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    4. manehi
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Lukaku is in my team (see above) atm. Bit of a risk, but explosive potential. No real reason to believe that he'll play other than that I think he's their best striker.

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    5. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think that he is the perfect match for the three players behind him. Big lad that is strong and can head but also has great touch with ball at his feet. Is young and hungry. I really enjoyed watching him last season and reminded me a lot of Zlatan Ibrahimović.

      If I was the manager he'd be on my team sheet.

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    6. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think Lukaku will have to force himself into contention Torres will get the nod vs Hull.

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      1. roscola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Will Torres not suffer from the same fate as Mata and Azpil - Spain international soon before the Hull game?

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        1. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          As in, this: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8836576

          Actually, this makes me want to punt

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    7. Ronny Hotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Very tempted with a Lukaku punt instead if Sturridge allowing the extra million for Coutinho.

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    8. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks guys. Maybe I'll punt on him. Or I might go with Aspas and keep £1m in the bank for flexibility (I tried and failed to do that last year).

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  20. bangers and M*A*S*H
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any thoughts on this bunch?

    Boruc /Davis
    Collins / Chester / M.Turner /Parr /Yanga Bwiwa
    Bale /Hazard/ Coutinho/ Walcott/ Thomas
    JRod/ RVP/ Anelka

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    1. Andrew
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Nice, but thats because its quite similar to mine 🙂

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      1. Pinatta
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        And everyone else's....... I see a grand total of 0 punts!

        So I rate is 5/10 🙁

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        1. Andrew
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          So punts mean a higher score out of 10??

          Punts mean nothing if they dont work out so not sure of your logic there.

          Most people had a template team last season and did very well.

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    2. Spoox777
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Everyone on here is picking the same weak defence because they're struggling to fit RVP & Bale in their teams. Collins, Chester, Parr, Turner.
      For Palace Ward is a better defender than Parr + Parr is just returning from injury.
      Collins is rubbish, same with Chester.
      Nice strong midfield.
      Not sure on Rodriguez & is Anelka nailed on?

      I've got rid of Bale, kept RVP & have used the extra to have a much stronger defence.

      6/10 🙂

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      1. Andrew
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Good luck with no Bale

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  21. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Someone remind me...which teams rotate well with Southampton.

    Looking for another 4.5m gk to go with Boruc. Dino's HT has convinced me to steer clear of WBA and Foster.

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I still like foster.. may not rotate so well h/a but fixture difficulty wise not bad

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      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Any others that rotate with Southampton?

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          no real good option apart from marshall(i think) after the first 6.. i hate havin a non playin keeper but leanin toward Migs/4.0 now

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          West Ham.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I understood CVAR as an option (Marshall) although I haven't really looked, I'm pulling the Chesney number 1. 🙂

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      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        If I can't find another option I may go Mignolet and a non player. Not overly keen on that though.

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    3. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Norwich, Palace, Sunderland, West Brom

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      1. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I've gone for Mannone, myself.

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        1. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I did originally have a Sunderland goalie but its still unclear which it'll be. Last I heard Westwood was number one and Mannone there as competition ready to prise it off him should he muck up. Really not certain Mannone is safe.

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      2. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        apart from palace the rest end their rotation by GW 6 i think

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    4. Big Fudge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Mannone (Sunderland) or Ruddy (Norwich)? Just some ideas 🙂

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    5. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Palace rotate very well with them

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      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Sunderland too but the Mannone/Westwood situation needs clearing up.

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      2. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Done. Speroni in. Actually pretty good rotation.

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    6. Frank Spankhard
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      whu

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    7. Jönny
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Do we know Boruc definitely has the spot nailed? Not trying to scaremonger, just genuinely wondering as I had no interest in the GK position last time out but am aware that all 3 got game-time over the course of the season.

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  22. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone know some good websites where I can get football jerseys for cheaper than in shops?

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    1. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      http://www.oxfam.com

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks. x

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      2. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Na, just messing.

        I used to walk about at 3am & steal them off washing lines 🙂

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    2. Pinatta
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      http://www.soccerscorpion.se/

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks mate.

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        1. Pinatta
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          yw

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      2. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Are these definitely real?

        £18 for Barca's 13/14 away jersey seems too good to be true.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Probably. They do cheap 'n' cheerful relicas on the continent generally. I was in Milan for derby a few years back and either clubs shirts were available on stalls for €6, although that was about 10 yrs ago.

          I think it's just us Brits that get wickedly ripped-off. 🙂

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  23. Wheato182
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any decent midfielders for 5 mill or less?

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      If they were decent, would they be £5m or less?

      Koren/Brady (HUL) both popluar, Thomas (CPL) for cheap, I have a sneaky Campana (CPL) feeling, albeit, based on not very much.

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      1. Wheato182
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Ok - sorry wrong term of phrase, any "potential" at 5 mill or less? better?

        Thanks will look into these.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Go to pre-season tab at top of page, spin through to the 3 promoted teams and you'll find fine FFS write-ups on them, giving last season app/gls/ass stats.

          Really rather useful, I think.

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        2. commonsns
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Tonev when fit - Pozuelo if played.

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  24. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Shaylan Given just mentioned that after Gw6 Migs and Boruc don't rotate. For those who are going 5.5 and 4.5, have a look at the keepers, not many rotate, slight problem.

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'm slowly leaning towards mignoley/4.0. Just gone through Pool's fixtures and seen that they play
      Tottenham, MCY and Chelsea from GW 16-GW 19. That means that you have a run of fixtures with just manu and arsenal to worry about from GW 1 to GW 15!!! most will prob WC by then

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        infact i think i just convinced myself..

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    2. r0binh0
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Best pair are I think Mignolet and Marshall. Marshall comes in beautifully for Mignolet's away games vs the top 6.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Paying 0.5 more for a newly promoted keeper for jsut 3 games from GW 1 to GW 15 seems a waste though.. Shame Boruc does'nt rotate

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        1. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Did you get my email about the weird apostrphe thing in your posts not getting through our filter? We're looking into it but in the mean time could you get the apostrophe's in the right place...I feel like such an apostrophe git for even posting this, but would save me having to manually approve every time you post. cheers.

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          1. Frazek
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah, sort out the gramma! 🙂

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        2. r0binh0
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Strange timeframe to pick. Marshall would play in GW 16, 18, 19 as well which then gets you to the Jan WC window. 5/6 games out of 19 is pretty damn good i think.

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      2. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        thats what Ive just done

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    3. r0binh0
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Plus 4 of Soton's 7 CS last season were away from home so arguably you don't want to look to rotate them on a H/A basis, an ease of oppo basis is better.

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  25. albie.s
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I REALLY CAN"T DECIDE??

    A: Silva + Sturridge
    B: Hazard + Giroud

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A

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    2. Frank Spankhard
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      b 110%

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      1. Frank Spankhard
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        silva rotation risk, sturridge injury doubt

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    3. Pinatta
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      B

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    4. Big Fudge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I have all 4, but I reckon B is more nailed on

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    5. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Keep an eye on Sturridge's injury.
      Hazard fixtures:

      HULL
      Man utd
      ------------
      Everton

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  26. RiflaFC
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Hi lads please RMT

    Mannone (Buroc)

    Clyne - Mertesacker - Coleman (M. Turner - Chester)

    Bale - Hazard - Snod - Mirallas (Thomas)

    RVP - Berbatov - J.Rod

    Might downgrade RVP to Aguero and upgrade Mirallas to Walcott.
    Thoughts?

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    1. Pinatta
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think we're almost there, the template team

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    2. Big Fudge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I like that idea, but Silva is the most nailed on attacking player, so maybe:

      RVP > Sturridge

      Mirallas > Silva

      J Rod > Giroud

      Chester > Collins

      Mannone > Foster

      Just some ideas 🙂

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      1. RiflaFC
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Not sure about using Sturridge since he'd prone to injuries... Thanks for the tips 🙂

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    3. penguinsofdeath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'm not convinced by Mirallas but he seems a popular choice. Injuries worry me.

      Aguero would be a great shout if he plays through the middle. If they move him out wide then not so much.

      Like the defence, I fancy merts and coleman as regulars - just need to work out a rotating 3 that could go with them

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      1. RiflaFC
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Im also a bit worried about Mirallas, but if he gets injured I can trade him for Snod or Coutinho(?). The plan is to use the 3 way rotation, courtesy of ITWT 🙂

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  27. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Looking for an stopwatch/timer app to set for intervals for my Sony Xperia phone. Any one that you recommend?

    I take it apple apps are compatible with iphone only?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yep.

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  28. penguinsofdeath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    First post of the season, not been active on here for a while!

    Excited about the new season, team is coming along, still some tweaks to do no doubt!

    Have a question for the regulars? I don't fully understand the new bonus system but from what I can gather it benefits defenders? If this is the case then why does the trend seem to be to stick with really cheap defenders? Would it not make more sense to spend more cash on them?

    Also when is UFPL launching... I want to get involved!

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  29. Donnie Brasco´s
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Sturidge or Torres?
    My only dilema

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    1. Big Fudge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sturridge

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